Octane Booster

[trthrrt489]

http://www.batterystuff.com/fuel-treatments/OS2q.html

This doesn't look like the junk they sell at Autozone. This says it's concentrated Tetra-something lead which is the main booster in leaded fuels.

One quart of this 12$ stuff will turn 6 gallons of 110 into 118 octane(C16).

Does anyone have any experience with it?

-Dave

[5mall5nail5]

18Ounces OB-130 to 1 gallon/fuel……..16.0 point octane increase

Octane points work like:

93.0 octane + 1 pt = 93.1
91.0 octane + 2 pt = 91.2

so 16 points, would be 93 + this shit = 93.16? Or, maybe its 94.6? Either way, hardly worth it.

[RRdawho?]

Just mix your gas with toulene.

[byron]

why not just buy race fuel? its probably easier than trying to mix that shit consistently for a specific tune...

[HyperHoHo]

Don't even bother...

[card counter]

Don't even bother...

+1

This is probally the best octane booster
http://www.torcostore.com/p-84-accelerator-unleaded-fuel-concentrate-32oz.aspx

[RagnarDanskjold]

ENVIRONMENT?
By adding Octane Supreme-130 to your fuel, your engine will perform better by increasing horsepower and burning the fuel more efficiently. Practically all the lead content is burned and deposited on the valves and valve seats, leaving the environment virtually lead free. The sun quickly decomposes any remaining trace of lead. WTF?



2. Boosts octane from 2-16 points when added to fuel. Perfect for HIGH COMPRESSION ENGINES. Eliminates engine knocking.

Please be more ambiguous with those numbers!
...

Typical Applications
High compression race engines
Pre-unleaded gasoline engines without hardened valve seats
Muscle cars with high compression engines
Big inch, high compression bike engines, especially Harleys
This product intended for off road use only. Affects oxygen sensors.

Uh, no kidding.



Doesn't lead also destroy catalytic converters?

[kingsiang]

+1

This is probally the best octane booster
http://www.torcostore.com/p-84-accelerator-unleaded-fuel-concentrate-32oz.aspx

hmmm looks good...

"The Unleaded concentrate when blended with a 93-octane super unleaded makes up to a 107-octane race fuel "

32oz with how many gallons of 93octane make it 107 octane??

[5mall5nail5]

hmmm looks good...

"The Unleaded concentrate when blended with a 93-octane super unleaded makes up to a 107-octane race fuel "

32oz with how many gallons of 93octane make it 107 octane??

Quoted from a mustang forum I know of:

10 gallon 91 to one 32oz can of torco = 96.58 octane

[paul e]

18Ounces OB-130 to 1 gallon/fuel……..16.0 point octane increase

Octane points work like:

93.0 octane + 1 pt = 93.1
91.0 octane + 2 pt = 91.2

so 16 points, would be 93 + this shit = 93.16? Or, maybe its 94.6? Either way, hardly worth it.

Exactly. Guys always fall for this, thinking 16 points, wow. I think a point is a tenth, so Id go with 94.6.

[5mall5nail5]

Exactly. Guys always fall for this, thinking 16 points, wow. I think a point is a tenth, so Id go with 94.6.

Yeah and they don't publish at what ratio 16 points is achieved. It might only be per gallon or two of fuel. Who knows.

[Geno325is]

arent ya happy with our race pump over here in dirt bag land?

[RRdawho?]

Quoted from a mustang forum I know of:

10 gallon 91 to one 32oz can of torco = 96.58 octane

Is this stuff real?

[HyperHoHo]

If you really think this stuff works, then put it in your gas tank, crank up the boost and put timing into your motor...see what happens!

[tsweers89]

octane boosters are pointless you might get a little from it but you def wont notice it. If anything just mix some unleaded race gas in and your set

[trthrrt489]

They state there is 60 grams of lead per gallon. The marketing claims these are actual points not tenths.

I will get a couple of quarts and send the fuel off to be analized.

Then I will crank the boost up and see what happens....... :)

-Dave

[trthrrt489]

Who would like to put their money where their posts are. I am proposing that we wager if this stuff is legit. I believe it is, and I am willing to buy this stuff mix 32 oz of it with 6 gallons of 110 octane, and send the control 110 and the mix off to be analized.

For those who say it will only move tenths of points 93.1, 93.2...etc I am asking you put up $40 if this stuff actually makes 116-118+ out of the 6 gallons of 110 octane.

Local members can do the mixing of the 110 octane and a fresh bottle of this stuff, and we cn send the samples to a 3rd party testing facility.

The Marketing


OCTANE SUPREME 130 -Octane Boost

WHAT IS OCTANE SUPREME-130

An Octane Booster that really works! It's that simple. It contains GENUINE TETRAETHYL LEAD (TEL) and other octane enhancing components. (1)Boosts octane (2)Eliminates engine knock (3)Protects and lubricates valves and valve guides. This not a lead substitute! You can easily turn any motor fuel into a high octane racing fuel simply by adding OS-130. See blending chart below.



WHY IS OCTANE SUPREME-130 DIFFERENT FROM OTHER ADDITIVES ON THE MARKET TODAY?

Octane Supreme-130 contains a high level of genuine tetraethyl lead,(60 grams per gallon). Other manufacturer’s additives contain lead substitutes, such as Ammonium Phosphates, Amine Phosphates, Manganese Compounds (MMT), Sodium, Sulfur formulas, and others mystery blends. There are products that blend a trace of lead with other chemical substitutes, so they advertise a lead product. Octane Supreme 130 is the only product with 100% TEL activant (NO SUBSTITUTES) for maximum performance.


IS OCTANE SUPREME-130 SAFE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT?

By adding Octane Supreme-130 to your fuel, your engine will perform better by increasing horsepower and burning the fuel more efficiently. Practically all the lead content is burned and deposited on the valves and valve seats, leaving the environment virtually lead free.


HIGHLIGHTS OF OCTANE SUPREME-130

Contains REAL Tetraethyl Lead (60 grams per gal.) and other octane

enhancing components. (No substitute chemicals added).

Boosts Octane from 2–16 full points

(not 0.1 points but full octane numbers, eg. 91 into a 98 octane, etc.)

when added to fuel. Perfect for high compression engines to

eliminate engine knocking and detonation.



Protects and lubricates the valve train. 12 ounces of OS130 to 20 gallons of fuel provides the minimum amount of lead protection needed to maintain and lubricate engines designed to run on leaded gasoline. Perfect for vintage cars, farm tractors, etc.



A Superior Gasoline Treatment & Octane Booster that is EPA approved and registered for off road use.



TREAT RATES R+M/2______

0.6- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……2.0 point octane increase

1.2- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……3.5 point octane increase

1.8- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……5.0 point octane increase

2.4- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……6.5 point octane increase

3.0- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……8.0 point octane increase

6.0- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……11.0 point octane increase

18- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……16.0 point octane increase



EXAMPLE: 18 ounces added to 10 gallons of fuel will turn a 93 octane into a 98 octane, 30 ounces into a 101 octane, etc. Guaranteed! Due to EPA regulations this product is for off road use only.



Who is in on this wager to end all wagers???

Dare I say, who is MAN enough??? :confused


-Dave

[5mall5nail5]

Who would like to put their money where their posts are. I am proposing that we wager if this stuff is legit. I believe it is, and I am willing to buy this stuff mix 32 oz of it with 6 gallons of 110 octane, and send the control 110 and the mix off to be analized.

For those who say it will only move tenths of points 93.1, 93.2...etc I am asking you put up $40 if this stuff actually makes 116-118+ out of the 6 gallons of 110 octane.

Local members can do the mixing of the 110 octane and a fresh bottle of this stuff, and we cn send the samples to a 3rd party testing facility.

The Marketing


OCTANE SUPREME 130 -Octane Boost

WHAT IS OCTANE SUPREME-130

An Octane Booster that really works! It's that simple. It contains GENUINE TETRAETHYL LEAD (TEL) and other octane enhancing components. (1)Boosts octane (2)Eliminates engine knock (3)Protects and lubricates valves and valve guides. This not a lead substitute! You can easily turn any motor fuel into a high octane racing fuel simply by adding OS-130. See blending chart below.



WHY IS OCTANE SUPREME-130 DIFFERENT FROM OTHER ADDITIVES ON THE MARKET TODAY?

Octane Supreme-130 contains a high level of genuine tetraethyl lead,(60 grams per gallon). Other manufacturer’s additives contain lead substitutes, such as Ammonium Phosphates, Amine Phosphates, Manganese Compounds (MMT), Sodium, Sulfur formulas, and others mystery blends. There are products that blend a trace of lead with other chemical substitutes, so they advertise a lead product. Octane Supreme 130 is the only product with 100% TEL activant (NO SUBSTITUTES) for maximum performance.


IS OCTANE SUPREME-130 SAFE FOR THE ENVIRONMENT?

By adding Octane Supreme-130 to your fuel, your engine will perform better by increasing horsepower and burning the fuel more efficiently. Practically all the lead content is burned and deposited on the valves and valve seats, leaving the environment virtually lead free.


HIGHLIGHTS OF OCTANE SUPREME-130

Contains REAL Tetraethyl Lead (60 grams per gal.) and other octane

enhancing components. (No substitute chemicals added).

Boosts Octane from 2–16 full points

(not 0.1 points but full octane numbers, eg. 91 into a 98 octane, etc.)

when added to fuel. Perfect for high compression engines to

eliminate engine knocking and detonation.



Protects and lubricates the valve train. 12 ounces of OS130 to 20 gallons of fuel provides the minimum amount of lead protection needed to maintain and lubricate engines designed to run on leaded gasoline. Perfect for vintage cars, farm tractors, etc.



A Superior Gasoline Treatment & Octane Booster that is EPA approved and registered for off road use.



TREAT RATES R+M/2______

0.6- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……2.0 point octane increase

1.2- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……3.5 point octane increase

1.8- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……5.0 point octane increase

2.4- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……6.5 point octane increase

3.0- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……8.0 point octane increase

6.0- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……11.0 point octane increase

18- Ounces OS-130 to 1 gallon / fuel……16.0 point octane increase



EXAMPLE: 18 ounces added to 10 gallons of fuel will turn a 93 octane into a 98 octane, 30 ounces into a 101 octane, etc. Guaranteed! Due to EPA regulations this product is for off road use only.



Who is in on this wager to end all wagers???

Dare I say, who is MAN enough??? :confused


-Dave

Dave look,

Even if it does increase you from... 93 to 98 in 10 gallons(which I highly doubt in 18 ounces... just plain doesn't make sense) you have 93 @ 3.15 gallon (avg) + almost what $15 worth of this stuff? (But you need to buy it in 32 oz $20 + shipping). So, $30 worth of pump fuel + lets call it $28 shipped of this stuff.

That's $58 for 10.1 gallons of 98 octane.

100 octane fuel is $5/gallon. 10 gallons of real 100 octane is cheaper than mixing this and having 98.

[hockey]

somebody try this and send it to the lab so you can end the arguing and make a point with proof

[RRdawho?]

Toulene or Methonal Injection FTW then.


Q: Why do you think toluene is better than other types of octane boosters?

A: Several reasons:

Mindful of the evil reputation of octane boosters in general, toluene is a very safe choice because it is one of the main octane boosters used by oil companies in producing ordinary gasoline of all grades. Thus if toluene is indeed harmful to your engine as feared, your engine would have disintegrated long, long ago since ordinary pump gasoline can contain as much as 50% aromatic hydrocarbons.

Toluene is a pure hydrocarbon (C7H8). i.e. it contains only hydrogen and carbon atoms. It belongs to a particular category of hydrocarbons called aromatic hydrocarbons. Complete combustion of toluene yields CO2 and H2O. This fact ensures that the entire emission control system such as the catalyst and oxygen sensor of your car is unaffected. There are no metallic compounds (lead, magnesium etc), no nitro compounds and no oxygen atoms in toluene. It is made up of exactly the same ingredients as ordinary gasoline. In fact it is one of the main ingredients of gasoline.

Toluene has a RON octane rating of 121 and a MON rating of 107, leading to a (R+M)/2 rating of 114. (R+M)/2 is how ordinary fuels are rated in the US. Note that toluene has a sensitivity rating of 121-107=14. This compares favorably with alcohols which have sensitivities in the 20-30 range. The more sensitive a fuel is the more its performance degrades under load. Toluene's low sensitivity means that it is an excellent fuel for a heavily loaded engine.

Toluene is denser than ordinary gasoline (0.87 g/mL vs. 0.72-0.74) and contains more energy per unit volume. Thus combustion of toluene leads to more energy being liberated and thus more power generated. This is in contrast to oxygenated octane boosters like ethanol or MTBE which contain less energy per unit volume compared to gasoline. The higher heating value of toluene also means that the exhaust gases contain more kinetic energy, which in turn means that there is more energy to drive turbocharger vanes. In practical terms this is experienced as a faster onset of turbo boost.

Chevron's published composition of 100 octane aviation fuel shows that toluene comprises up to 14% alone and is the predominant aromatic hydrocarbon. Unfortunately composition specifications for automotive gasoline is harder to pin down due to constantly changing requirements.

Chevron's web site also describes the problems of ethanol being used in gasoline.

MTBE was heavily touted as a clean additive several years ago, and became a key ingredient in reformulated gasoline that is sold in California. But recently new studies arose that showed that MTBE was far more toxic than previously imagined. Organizations such as oxybusters have formed around the country to eliminate the use of MTBE in gasoline and several states, including California have passed new laws to eventually outlaw MTBE.



Toulene
R+M/2...114
Cost...$2.50/gal
Mixtures with 92 Octane Premium
10%...94.2 Octane
20%...96.4 Octane
30%...98.6 Octane
Notes: Common ingredient in Octane Boosters in a can. 12-16 ounces will only raise octane 2-3 *points*, I.e. from 92 to 92.3. Often costs $3-5 for 12-16 ounces, when it can be purchased for less than $3/gal at chemical supply houses or paint stores.

http://www.elektro.com/~audi/audi/toluene.html

80's Turbo F1 cars used it for a reason :)

[HyperHoHo]

Dave, I will put $40 where my mouth is! I don't say something I can't back up :) You fail to realize that all this is R+M/2 (Research+Motor Octane divided by 2). In a racing application, MOTOR octane is important. That is the octane going into your cylinder. 110 at the pump is NOT 110 MON. Try more like 105, just like 93 at the PUMP is not true 93 octane. Whereas, for example, VP Racing fuels are all rated at the motor. VP 100, VP 110, VP C16, are all 100, 110, and 116 at the motor. There is a difference when you need to run that kind of octane in your application. In your example, you really think mixing 32 ounces of that into 6 gallons of 110 will yield you 116-118++++ MON? Hell, I don't think you could make that kind of octane even mixing it with VP 110, let alone any 110 off a pump. You also fail to realize that the properties of these "specialty" race fuels are also different than what you see off a pump. When your application calls for you to run such high octane, 110+, for the obvious, resistance to detonation, then you should really re-think of mixing 1/4 of a gallon of octane booster into your lower octane (off the pump) fuel. There is consistency to fuel, which makes for a consistency in tune = optimum power. You can pick up or lose HP on the dyno with different types of fuels with the SAME octane rating, likewise with your ET and MPH at the track. I'll put that $40 up to end this. I can use the $40 towards some more REAL race fuel for myself :). I just hope whoever puts that into their gas tank better have $10,000+ for a new motor, cause I sure as hell can't drop another $10,000 on my motor!

[RRdawho?]

Toulene has good MON properties :shifty

[YellowBed]

Has anyone tested this?



Toluene is denser than ordinary gasoline (0.87 g/mL vs. 0.72-0.74) and contains more energy per unit volume. Thus combustion of toluene leads to more energy being liberated and thus more power generated. This is in contrast to oxygenated octane boosters like ethanol or MTBE which contain less energy per unit volume compared to gasoline. The higher heating value of toluene also means that the exhaust gases contain more kinetic energy, which in turn means that there is more energy to drive turbocharger vanes. In practical terms this is experienced as a faster onset of turbo boost.

[trthrrt489]

I am not betting $40. I am going to pay for the gas, booster and lab fees. The $40 is going to recoup those expenses if this stuff actually works.

Please stop with the Toluene posts. I have run over 50 gallons of that stuff in all forms of concentration, and I was never impressed. I knocked at high boost with an %80 Toluene/93 mix. The Toluene makes cold starting the car difficult, it's expensive unless your like me and live next to a paint store that wants to get rid of 5 gallon drums of it.

The point here is to turn $4.50/gal 110 pump into $11/gal C16

Can it be done? I don't know, but, Andrew seems to be the only poster who has the stones to put his money where his posts are...... :)

LOCKED IN FOR $40
1. Andrew........HyperHoHo

BTW, does anyone know of a mail order lab that will do the analysis for under $200????

-Dave

[5mall5nail5]

Please stop with the Toluene posts. I have run over 50 gallons of that stuff in all forms of concentration, and I was never impressed. I knocked at high boost with an %80 Toluene/93 mix. The Toluene makes cold starting the car difficult, it's expensive unless your like me and live next to a paint store that wants to get rid of 5 gallon drums of it.

You aren't supposed to run anything over 30% max of toluene - that'd explain your in ability to start the car cold. The stuff doesn't ignite easily over 30% ratio and the cars that ran it straight in the 80's had some sort of additive to help ignite the mixture

[trthrrt489]

You aren't supposed to run anything over 30% max of toluene - that'd explain your in ability to start the car cold. The stuff doesn't ignite easily over 30% ratio and the cars that ran it straight in the 80's had some sort of additive to help ignite the mixture
I had read somewhere that the race cars used to preheat the straight Toluene, and once my motor was hot the car ran fine.

Toluene is a good solution if you need to move a couple of points, but to make actual high octane fuel 110+ you have to use a ton of it.

I got my Toluene drums cheap, so I spent about a month playing "mix experimentor".

-Dave

[RRdawho?]

You aren't supposed to run anything over 30% max of toluene - that'd explain your in ability to start the car cold. The stuff doesn't ignite easily over 30% ratio and the cars that ran it straight in the 80's had some sort of additive to help ignite the mixture

n-heptane, octane rating of 0, more due to regulations rather tha cold start though. Otherwise, they would just preheated the motor, etc.

[wulfgang]

Toluene is great stuff from an octane perspective, but it is not particularly good for your health and the environment. There are strict regulations on the total aromatic content of fuels (this includes toluene, benzene, xylene, etc), especially in CA.

For safe, high octane fuel, you have to go to reformulated fuels, which are branched alkanes (like isooctane), usually along with some oxygenate. The fuel manufactures spend heaps of cash on this problem, so it is going to be hard to beat them at their own game by mixing your own stuff. F1 also runs rfg, so it's not like you can't make good power with a socially acceptable fuel (and enough $$$).

Also, for the people arguing about RON vs MON, VP fuels does in fact label their fuels with the (R+M)/2 number, just like at the gas station. So for example, Street Blaze 100 (100 octane) is actually only 96 MON. But as long as you are comparing apples to apples, you'll be ok.

Personally, I am most interested in E85. It's clean, it's cheap, and it has an octane rating of 100-105. I can get it at a local gas station for right about the same price as regular gasoline ~$3/gal, depending on the day. But it is a bit more difficult to find in the Bay area... I only found one station that sold it.

[HyperHoHo]

Well then, I guess it's worth the $40 to you if I am wrong! If the tests come out in your favor, I would still like to see it actually being used in a race application!

FYI, 110 at the pump nowadays is like $5.50 or so per gallon, and VP C16 is now $12.50/gallon.


I am not betting $40. I am going to pay for the gas, booster and lab fees. The $40 is going to recoup those expenses if this stuff actually works.

Please stop with the Toluene posts. I have run over 50 gallons of that stuff in all forms of concentration, and I was never impressed. I knocked at high boost with an %80 Toluene/93 mix. The Toluene makes cold starting the car difficult, it's expensive unless your like me and live next to a paint store that wants to get rid of 5 gallon drums of it.

The point here is to turn $4.50/gal 110 pump into $11/gal C16

Can it be done? I don't know, but, Andrew seems to be the only poster who has the stones to put his money where his posts are...... :)

LOCKED IN FOR $40
1. Andrew........HyperHoHo

BTW, does anyone know of a mail order lab that will do the analysis for under $200????

-Dave

[HyperHoHo]

That's incorrect. VP advertises their fuel at MON, not R+M/2. I just went to their web site to double check and they are all rated at the motor. I also went into my garage and looked at my drums of VP C16 and VP Import and I do not see anything labeled on them regarding R+M/2.



Also, for the people arguing about RON vs MON, VP fuels does in fact label their fuels with the (R+M)/2 number, just like at the gas station. So for example, Street Blaze 100 (100 octane) is actually only 96 MON. But as long as you are comparing apples to apples, you'll be ok.

[wulfgang]

No, it's correct. And so are you. It appears that they list leaded fuel by MON (which is probably what you were checking, right?), but many of their unleaded fuels are named by average octane, e.g. Street Blaze 100, Motorsport 101, Motorsport 103. And then Motorsport 109 is 109 RON.

So I wonder if the leaded fuels do not have RON's listed because they are difficult to predict from the composition. At any rate, like I said, as long as you both compare RON to RON or MON to MON or average to average, you'll be on the same page.

[RRdawho?]

Toluene is great stuff from an octane perspective, but it is not particularly good for your health and the environment. There are strict regulations on the total aromatic content of fuels (this includes toluene, benzene, xylene, etc), especially in CA.

For safe, high octane fuel, you have to go to reformulated fuels, which are branched alkanes (like isooctane), usually along with some oxygenate. The fuel manufactures spend heaps of cash on this problem, so it is going to be hard to beat them at their own game by mixing your own stuff. F1 also runs rfg, so it's not like you can't make good power with a socially acceptable fuel (and enough $$$).

Also, for the people arguing about RON vs MON, VP fuels does in fact label their fuels with the (R+M)/2 number, just like at the gas station. So for example, Street Blaze 100 (100 octane) is actually only 96 MON. But as long as you are comparing apples to apples, you'll be ok.

Personally, I am most interested in E85. It's clean, it's cheap, and it has an octane rating of 100-105. I can get it at a local gas station for right about the same price as regular gasoline ~$3/gal, depending on the day. But it is a bit more difficult to find in the Bay area... I only found one station that sold it.

I would imagine that the meth injection that guys use here are much more volatile to the environment and your health than toluene, which occurs more naturally in the gas production process.

Figgie (a member here) is reconstructing his supra engine to handle E85, but the thought of rebuilding my motor with different seals specific for E85 is not very attractive....

[trthrrt489]

Well then, I guess it's worth the $40 to you if I am wrong! If the tests come out in your favor, I would still like to see it actually being used in a race application!

FYI, 110 at the pump nowadays is like $5.50 or so per gallon, and VP C16 is now $12.50/gallon.
A couple of weeks ago the 110 pump $4.79/gallon.
If this stuff actually works it'll be good to pay around $45 for 6 gallons of C16.

If it doesn't we put another internet mistruth to rest.

FWIW, I am going to Byron this weekend and I'll be running the octane booster/110 mix.

I'll be around 25psi, and I'll be datalogging.


Does anyone have a place where I can get these fuel samples tested?

-Dave

[HyperHoHo]

Dave, you should go to GLD this Friday. My friend rented it out as a private track. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend it this Friday, but if you want, I can see if I can get you in.

[trthrrt489]

Dave, you should go to GLD this Friday. My friend rented it out as a private track. Unfortunately, I will not be able to attend it this Friday, but if you want, I can see if I can get you in.
Thanks Duuuuude!!!!! However, I am trying to get Geno some dyno time at the local shop.

What are you doing on Sunday? The Byron ETK meet sounds fun!

-Dave

[wulfgang]

Figgie (a member here) is reconstructing his supra engine to handle E85, but the thought of rebuilding my motor with different seals specific for E85 is not very attractive....

Thanks for that info... I'm reading his posts now. I had heard about the corrosion problems, but I'm curious how much would have to be changed out to handle the E85.

[RRdawho?]

Thanks for that info... I'm reading his posts now. I had heard about the corrosion problems, but I'm curious how much would have to be changed out to handle the E85.

On a smaller note, your gas mileage will also decrease by 10-20% since there is also less energy per unit volume in E85, so keep that in mind when also configuring your fuel system for it. What would be fine with 550cc injectors with a given power goal and a walbro 255lph may need dual pumps and 750cc injectors for the given power goal with E85.