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NoSoup4U
03-04-2003, 05:44 PM
Good god -- Bangle's "flame-sided" lines are now BMW trademarks?? I hate those lines, no offense to new owners... and I definitely still do not like the high trunk lid. AWD versions of the M3??? Interesting to say the least....what are your guys' thoughts


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http://www.autoexpress.co.uk ?:

Thursday 27th February 2003
New 3 Joins Flame Academy

Exclusive pictures of the next-generation BMW 3-Series in the current issue of Auto Express magazine clearly show how the newcomer will look, and it appears the German firm is taking a bold step forward with the car's styling.

The 3-Series will feature designer Chris Bangle's trademark 'flame-sided' lines, first seen on the 7-Series. At the front, the curved nose and drooping grille echo the Z4's, while the high boot lid and low load sill follow BMW's family look. The four-door saloon appears first, late next year, with a coupé, cabrio and Touring arriving in mid-2005.

There will be a revolution under the skin, too, as the firm bids to create the most technically advanced car in its class. It will use a simplified version of the 7-Series' iDrive system, and incorporate a full telecommunications package including Internet access on flagship models. The quick-shifting SMG box offered on the current M3 will be made available as an option across the range.

Driver appeal will continue to be a key marketing point. Fully adjustable suspension can be controlled electronically from the cabin, while a development of the firm's famed Z-axle set-up will ensure taut handling. Rear-wheel drive will remain as standard, but the company is also developing a 4WD version to go head-to-head with Jaguar's X-Type and the Audi A4 quattro.

Engine choices will include 2.0 and 2.2-litre four-cylinder units, plus 2.5 and 3.0 six-pots. The flagship 345i will use an all-new 4.5-litre V8. Diesel fans will have a choice of 2.2, 3.0 or 4.0 units. BMW is also planning to further develop the M3 range, and will be offering both two and four-wheel-drive versions of the top performer. It will be powered by a tuned variant of the 345i's V8, developing in excess of 400bhp. Craig Cheetham

DOO
03-04-2003, 06:08 PM
I don't know, but i vomit everytime i see an E46 sedan. It is so......girly. but, then again, the new E class ain't much too look at.

NickBooras
03-04-2003, 06:19 PM
I think the 'flame-sided' lines are way too feminine. From what I've seen of the new 3 series design, it looks very unproportionate and distorted, not to mention it looks fat (read: heavy). The bangle headlights (as seen on the e46 face lift) disgust me, plain and simple. Also, the Z4 style grill they're putting on is also a mistake. It, too, looks very distorted. I have yet to see the coupe design, so I can't speak about it, but if it's anything like the sedan, I think BMW will lose many of their customers to MB.

About the M version...I think it is kind of a mistake to offer the same motor (slightly less tuned) in a regular 3 series. I fear that without FI, they won't make a noticable difference in HP numbers (kind of like Audi with the A6 4.2 and the S6), and that will turn people away from spending the extra $$ to get the M. I am a undecided on the AWD version. It may sell better in places like CO. Also, if they can make the 0-60 times shorter, and the 0-155 times the same as the RWD version, I think it may be a pretty good idea (I doubt they can accomplish the second, unfortunately).

NoSoup4U
03-04-2003, 06:40 PM
Ahh I just caught that, so they are going to offer a 4 door M3 then, or will it be called M4?? The 345i = 2 door coupe right??

I see what you mean PHSPomona if the 345i has the 4.5L V8 engine, unless it's REALLY detuned, you could have ///M power at a fraction of the cost. Probably not the same handling, etc... but still.... people on the fence, would definitely choose the 345i though

NickBooras
03-04-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by NoSoup4U
Ahh I just caught that, so they are going to offer a 4 door M3 then, or will it be called M4?? The 345i = 2 door coupe right??

I doubt they'd call it the M4 since it is still technically a 3 series. :dunno Also, wouldn't the coupe be a 345ci? Maybe they'll make both? Who knows...

CABimmer
03-04-2003, 07:41 PM
all I read was 400+ hp for the M3 and a V8. WOOHOO!!

NickBooras
03-04-2003, 07:43 PM
Originally posted by CABimmer
all I read was 400+ hp for the M3 and a V8. WOOHOO!!

Yeah, that is pretty badass. What you need to do is wait for the first moron to total his with the engine unharmed. Take the engine out of that ugly POS, and drop it in that beautiful machine you have sitting in your driveway. :D

SI///M3
03-04-2003, 08:57 PM
Originally posted by PHSPomona
Yeah, that is pretty badass. What you need to do is wait for the first moron to total his with the engine unharmed. Take the engine out of that ugly POS, and drop it in that beautiful machine you have sitting in your driveway. :D

I like how you think! :D

New BMW styles are doing nothing at ALL for me. :( I love every BMW made up until now, the new generation of designs just has no appeal to me at all. Either the new designs suck, or I'm getting to be an old fart (I'm 21) with "everything made in the old days is good" syndrome. :dunno

JSN
03-04-2003, 09:14 PM
pictures?