4 options for my 1600$ which one do I do.

[omak81]

So I am going to be coming into about 1600$ soon so I am planning on the following, which would give me the best gains and overall the most enjoyment.

Stock m3 clutch and flywheel, ds2's, no cams but the rest of cam package,stock lsd.

DS2's < LTW wheels- maybe d-force, or bbs rgr's
Stock Cams < Schrick Cams
m3 Clutch+fly < UUC Flywheel+m5 clutch
Stock LSD < 3.46 LSD 40% lockup

Or I could say screw it all and put it to a c-38 aa Super charger

[pelotudo]

Personally, I'd go with suspension and brakes before power. Both of these will decrease track times and give you a more enjoyable daily driving experience.

Hell, drop $1000 on springs/shocks, then have $600 left over for new rotors/pads, or shark it + some aesthetic mods, or use for wheels and sell the DSII's to offset the cost.

The options you're considering are nice, but IMHO suspension will increase fun time substantially and will leave some left over to play with. It depends too, how good of shape is that clutch in. How much tread left on the tires (i.e. will you need to spend $$$ on tires if you don't get wheels). The LSD choice is a good one as well, often termed the poor mans supercharger; that, of only the options you presented, would be my first choice along with the wheels.

[WytLytnyn]

I don't know what state of repair your car is in, but you will get the most enjoyment out of taking care of any primary maintenance issues first like:

RSMs
RTAB's
Fluids - coolant, tranny, diff
Guibos
filters - air, fuel, cabin
brakes
good set of tires
suspension bushings

I agree with the post above about putting a good suspension on before forced induction as well. If I had to give all my mods back but one, I'd keep my suspension.

Anything $ left over, throw into a Roth IRA fund with a heavy emphasis on Asian technology, bio med and heavy industries.

[M3zie]

If you plan on going the C38 route, definitely spend the 1600 on suspension and brake refresh. Then you'll need some good tires to keep you on the road, take care of any other maintenance issues, and THEN go for the SC.

I may go for a C38 when the price comes down to around $3k. But for now it's TCK coilovers :)

[omak81]

I don't know what state of repair your car is in, but you will get the most enjoyment out of taking care of any primary maintenance issues first like:

RSMs
RTAB's
Fluids - coolant, tranny, diff
Guibos
filters - air, fuel, cabin
brakes
good set of tires
suspension bushings

I agree with the post above about putting a good suspension on before forced induction as well. If I had to give all my mods back but one, I'd keep my suspension.

Anything $ left over, throw into a Roth IRA fund with a heavy emphasis on Asian technology, bio med and heavy industries.

I have everything done to the car as far as Maintenance, suspention. EVERYTHING is new.

Here is my car domain with list, I still need swaybars and rear strut brace.
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2674173

[pelotudo]

Ahh, I see the page now. Ok, you've got everything I would take care of first.

I say LSD + wheels right now. Both have liquidity for when you decide to SC.

[omak81]

Ahh, I see the page now. Ok, you've got everything I would take care of first.

I say LSD + wheels right now. Both have liquidity for when you decide to SC.

Yeah thats what I was thinking, but ltw flywheel and m5 clutch would to wouldn't it?

[Julz69]

supercharge it!

[pelotudo]

the clutch is a wear item, flywheel as well even though not as much. not to mention installation (either your labor or paying someone else).

wheels, on the other hand, unless damaged, are going to retain their purchase value better along with the LSD. Both are much less time and/or cost consuming and can easily be removed and sold quickly if a deal comes up in the future for a supercharger or other piece you can't pass up.

if the clutch is nearing its demise, which mine at 135k is still very strong, i would go with an item that isn't going to depreciate as quickly and more time/cost consuming to remove later; and worry about the clutch when you decide to go with the sc.

[omak81]

Yeah Imal go with the c-38 supercharger over all the rest. Figure ital giveme the most gains and enjoyment. ALso cost the most lol

[omak81]

the clutch is a wear item, flywheel as well even though not as much. not to mention installation (either your labor or paying someone else).

wheels, on the other hand, unless damaged, are going to retain their purchase value better along with the LSD. Both are much less time and/or cost consuming and can easily be removed and sold quickly if a deal comes up in the future for a supercharger or other piece you can't pass up.

if the clutch is nearing its demise, which mine at 135k is still very strong, i would go with an item that isn't going to depreciate as quickly and more time/cost consuming to remove later; and worry about the clutch when you decide to go with the sc.

My clutch and flywheel I have right now are a month old, shoulda went ltw direction the first time but wasn't thinkin properly lol. Imal save it all for a water injection systema nd the c-38 stage 1

[ParadigmGuy]

Save for a turbo system.

[omak81]

Save for a turbo system.

Why? don't stage 1 turbo and supercharger put down the same whp and 1/4 numbers? Around the same?

[RRSperry]

Fully fund your IRA or 401K? That $1600 now, could well be $100,000 when you need it the most... You really don't expect Social Security to be around then do you? Oh wait, I forgot, kids listen as well as rocks.

[M3zie]

Fully fund your IRA or 401K? That $1600 now, could well be $100,000 when you need it the most... You really don't expect Social Security to be around then do you? Oh wait, I forgot, kids listen as well as rocks.

:lol

Good point, never really thought about it like that. I'm no kid anymore though.

I mean if you think of it like that, in the grand scheme of things, why spend money on anything you don't need? Why get an M3? Why mod it/upgrade it? Why not get a 318 or better yet an old CRX with the maintenance up to date? We only live once and we need to do what we enjoy/buy what we like within reason.

[ParadigmGuy]

Why? don't stage 1 turbo and supercharger put down the same whp and 1/4 numbers? Around the same?
Nope.

[omak81]

Fully fund your IRA or 401K? That $1600 now, could well be $100,000 when you need it the most... You really don't expect Social Security to be around then do you? Oh wait, I forgot, kids listen as well as rocks.

Thx Dad

[M3zie]

Why? don't stage 1 turbo and supercharger put down the same whp and 1/4 numbers? Around the same?

Turbo has much better upgrade potential and will be much faster in a straight line. If you plan on tracking the car, FI is probably not the best route to go.

[Mtastic]

Turbo is also alot harder on the car in general. I like the supercharger option because it's more linear and doesnt have the torque of the turbo that breaks shit.

[omak81]

The c-38 has a stage 2 which will giveme faster times then I need for the future, and I don't wanna break everything I have with that extra torque from the turbo.

[GotBHP?]

Helmet, HPDE, HPDE, HPDE.

[ParadigmGuy]

Turbo has much better upgrade potential and will be much faster in a straight line. If you plan on tracking the car, FI is probably not the best route to go.
Why would you say FI is not a good route if he tracks his car?


Turbo is also alot harder on the car in general. I like the supercharger option because it's more linear and doesnt have the torque of the turbo that breaks shit.
Turbos are not any harder on a car. Watch the video, tell me that isn't linear. You're right that turbo charging a car can break things, but only because you have more power in general. A SC would do the same if it made as much power. Smaller turbos or less boost can eliminate that issue.


The c-38 has a stage 2 which will giveme faster times then I need for the future, and I don't wanna break everything I have with that extra torque from the turbo.
What he said above is not correct. Don't see it as fact.

[omak81]

Why would you say FI is not a good route if he tracks his car?


Turbos are not any harder on a car. Watch the video, tell me that isn't linear. You're right that turbo charging a car can break things, but only because you have more power in general. A SC would do the same if it made as much power. Smaller turbos or less boost can eliminate that issue.


What he said above is not correct. Don't see it as fact.

K I just got to thinkin when the turbo spools it apply the torqe very fast and hard and figured it would be rougher on the car.

I think imal go c-38 for reliability and PRICE.

[Mr.M]

Helmet, HPDE, HPDE, HPDE.

+123487654687

Way more fun than a few HP.

[RRSperry]

I never ment to say you shouldn't spend money, but damn, I only spent after I had saved.

But to answer his question as to what I would do:

$1600 isn't all that much. I doubt you will find a set of BBS wheels and tires for that.

I vote for the 3.46 diff. Every time you drive you will grin.

Next would be the flywheel and clutch. makes #1 even more fun.

Oh and a C38 would just be the start of the serious money spending.

[omak81]

I never ment to say you shouldn't spend money, but damn, I only spent after I had saved.

But to answer his question as to what I would do:

$1600 isn't all that much. I doubt you will find a set of BBS wheels and tires for that.

I vote for the 3.46 diff. Every time you drive you will grin.

Next would be the flywheel and clutch. makes #1 even more fun.

Oh and a C38 would just be the start of the serious money spending.

So the 3.46 dif would make the car a good bit faster? more then say the ltw fly?

[Spec3VR6]

i say suspension...TMS sells a nice bilstein/H&R sport with all hardware for like $1300 bucks...take the rest of the money and upgrade your brakes/pads

[omak81]

i say suspension...TMS sells a nice bilstein/H&R sport with all hardware for like $1300 bucks...take the rest of the money and upgrade your brakes/pads

Suspention and brakes already brand new, everything is done expect for these options I mentioned.

[ParadigmGuy]

K I just got to thinkin when the turbo spools it apply the torqe very fast and hard and figured it would be rougher on the car.

I think imal go c-38 for reliability and PRICE.
It doesn't apply it so fast that it's rough on the car.

A SC set-up is no more (and no less) reliable than a turbo set-up. I daily drive mine, and make regular long distance road trips. I've put 4K on it in the last month. In 2 weeks I'm making a 1300 trip, staying in San Diego for a couple weeks, and driving 1300 miles back.

You can use price as your guide, but keep in mind that you get what you pay for.

[3twenty3is]

K I just got to thinkin when the turbo spools it apply the torqe very fast and hard and figured it would be rougher on the car.

I think imal go c-38 for reliability and PRICE.

WTF is 'imal'?

[tEckniks]

since you car everything BUT rims. Get rims ;)

[ParadigmGuy]

since you car everything BUT rims. Get rims ;)
And get the wheels to go with the rims.

[M3zie]

And get the wheels to go with the rims.

rimZz

[RRSperry]

Aren't rims, wheels?

[M3zie]

Aren't rims, wheels?

No, it depends who you're talking to.

[RRSperry]

I mean, you put tires on Rimz, and tires on wheels.

[ParadigmGuy]

Aren't rims, wheels?
No, a rim is the RIM of a wheel.

[llegos]

coilovers

[Bimmer325]

preventative maintance!!!!! whooooooooooooooooooo

gl with whatever you decide

[omak81]

Thx, I will probably go with the c-38 supercharger, atleast save what ever I can towards it.

[BeachBumM3]

Psh. Get the LSD, suspension work you said you had left over.

[omak81]

Psh. Get the LSD, suspension work you said you had left over.

The LSD will cost me near 2000, my suspention is already completly done. If I can get 3500 I can get a c-38. Figure Id rather have a supercharger then an lsd. I really don't know how nice a 3.46 lsd is though neever riden in a car with one so im kinda sceptical about them.

[M3zie]

The LSD will cost me near 2000, my suspention is already completly done. If I can get 3500 I can get a c-38. Figure Id rather have a supercharger then an lsd. I really don't know how nice a 3.46 lsd is though neever riden in a car with one so im kinda sceptical about them.

A 3.64 with 6spd tranny would be the best.

[mtmpow3rsgirl]

I say Supercharge it :buttrock