turbo e36 M3 for $38K

[drsides]

This is a little insane (http://raleigh.craigslist.org/car/246715335.html). He claims 500HP and only 10K miles. Funny to see the Lightweight graphics on a sedan! Dont seem the come around like this to often, but still... Thirty-eight thousand dollars?!!

Also, how on earth do you get $80K invested in this as he claims. Car was about $42K, plus ~$10K in mods. Where on earth did the other $28K go?

[TheNorthWaves]

hmm that's local to me. But for $38k i'd have a porsche 993 (end of story)...

[95DinanM3]

Whoopee. Perhaps I can understand a fully built M3 with 5,000 original miles fetching such a price, but thats definitely not the case here.

Nice? Yes. But not $38k nice. Not even close.

[Braymond141]

Whoopee. Perhaps I can understand a fully built M3 with 5,000 original miles fetching such a price, but thats definitely not the case here.

Nice? Yes. But not $38k nice. Not even close.

How the hell do you justify saying 5k miles would make it worth it, and 10k (that's only 5k more :rolleyes ) isnt?

:confused :confused :confused

Given the attention to detail, mileage and proposed passion for this car it's worth every penny to the seller... doesn't matter what all you speculate.

[98silver328i]

I've had a couple of people tell me that car is worth the $38k price tag. I don't see how. I'd take my $38k, buy a stock M3, SC it, do a few other little things to it, and still have $15k or more left over.

[95DinanM3]

How the hell do you justify saying 5k miles would make it worth it, and 10k (that's only 5k more :rolleyes ) isnt?

:confused :confused :confused

Given the attention to detail, mileage and proposed passion for this car it's worth every penny to the seller... doesn't matter what all you speculate.

Didnt notice the original mileage. I just dont think that he is going to get $38,000 for his vehicle. You cant really ask a much higher price because of modifications. Nevertheless, I am not a potential buyer so I guess it doesnt really matter.

[savage217]

It probably is worth 38k for what hes put into it and for it having 10k original miles but in reliaty 38k is way too much for even a bmw enthusiast. Like someone mentioned you could buy your own e36 m3 with very low miles and s/c t/c it for way less than 38k.

[radcc]

80k seems possible after you count the cost of the car and all of the additional parts put into the car. He could be factoring in some labor costs too. I don't think those should count though. At least not when it comes to resale value.

I would think most people who would want to mod their car this much would want to do it themselves. Buf IF there is a buyer out there with these mods in mind and that buyer doesn't care if he didn't get to do the modding, then 38k might be a steal.

The ltw sticker should go, looks funny on the sedan.

[M3zie]

$38k.






:confused

[phantom3]

ill be amazed if he gets 28k , but thats just my opinion . id hope the new owner removes the ltw sticker .

[98silver328i]

ill be amazed if he gets 28k , but thats just my opinion.

I agree. I was thinking about it earlier, and I doubt anyone would give him much more than $27k

[celtsnsox]

I love that he calls his car with huge LTW flags on it a "total sleeper." Sure, people may not recognize the flags, but they aren't subtle by a long shot.

[Steinkek]

sweet car but he will never get asking price. I could see it going for closer to 28k like the rest of you were saying. If i had the big bucks i could see 28k being an ok deal, also if i owned that it would have lots of miles very fast cause it would be to fun to drive.

[drsides]

Come to think of it... 500HP? Is it possible to double the hp of an S52 with a turbo?

He says that there are "too many addons to list", but you'd think that he'd want to list the things that have to be added to make 500hp feasible in an e36. e.g. beefed up tranny, rear end, pistons, crank, etc.

Also, if he does have 500hp, he's gotta be running way over 20psi boost. That would explain why its only 10K miles: cause it stinks as a daily driver!

Also... North Carolina has state inspections and they are pretty thorough, and I don't see how this thing could pass. But I see a NC inspection sticker in his windshield (low on drivers side). Maybe its a really old sticker from before the mods.

One more thing.. he has stock DS2's. With 500hp, and $80K invested, dont ya think he'd invest in some nicer wheels? I dont think that those 245's could lay down 500hp.

[dcvee]

Come to think of it... 500HP? Is it possible to double the hp of an S52 with a turbo?

He says that there are "too many addons to list", but you'd think that he'd want to list the things that have to be added to make 500hp feasible in an e36. e.g. beefed up tranny, rear end, pistons, crank, etc.

Also, if he does have 500hp, he's gotta be running way over 20psi boost. That would explain why its only 10K miles: cause it stinks as a daily driver!

Also... North Carolina has state inspections and they are pretty thorough, and I don't see how this thing could pass. But I see a NC inspection sticker in his windshield (low on drivers side). Maybe its a really old sticker from before the mods.

One more thing.. he has stock DS2's. With 500hp, and $80K invested, dont ya think he'd invest in some nicer wheels? I dont think that those 245's could lay down 500hp.

Oh it's more than feasible. It's done all the time. Check out the FI section of this forum. You'd be surprised.

Don

[2XM3]

500+ hp is not a problem, 38k is a huge problem. These cars sell for 25-28K no matter whats done to them, it's a labor of love when you mod them.

[Das Auto]

Come to think of it... 500HP? Is it possible to double the hp of an S52 with a turbo?

He says that there are "too many addons to list", but you'd think that he'd want to list the things that have to be added to make 500hp feasible in an e36. e.g. beefed up tranny, rear end, pistons, crank, etc.

Also, if he does have 500hp, he's gotta be running way over 20psi boost. That would explain why its only 10K miles: cause it stinks as a daily driver!

Also... North Carolina has state inspections and they are pretty thorough, and I don't see how this thing could pass. But I see a NC inspection sticker in his windshield (low on drivers side). Maybe its a really old sticker from before the mods.

One more thing.. he has stock DS2's. With 500hp, and $80K invested, dont ya think he'd invest in some nicer wheels? I dont think that those 245's could lay down 500hp.

I take it by that response, that you know very little about BMW F/I? 500hp is a cakewalk.

[drsides]

I take it by that response, that you know very little about BMW F/I? 500hp is a cakewalk.
I have never force fed an e36. But I do know a little about turbos and power adders in general.

The dude is implying that he has more than doubled his horsepower with the stock crank, tranny, rearend, heads and cam. That sounds dubious to me.

500hp from a turbo means at least 20 lbs of boost and probably more. I'm gonna go out on my ignorant limb here say that this sounds incompatable with the stock (high compression) pistons.

[Juan ///M325]

The car in question is NOT mine. I noticed that the average post of the people posting on this thread is less than 500. My car is for sale, and if you look at the link it will answer a lot of questions and will clarify a lot of doubt.

Can you double the power on an S52 with a turbo? Yes

Do you have to run 20 psi to do it? No, I'm doing 510 rwhp with 17 psi,
stock head and valves. I do, however, have turbo cams, pistons and rods.

Can you buy a low mileage E36 and turbo/ sc for less than $38K? Doubt it.
Even if you do all the labor yourself, it will cost you probably more. BTW,
I didn't build my car, but the person I bought it from spent over $60K in
upgrades.

Is my car worth the $35K that I'm asking? To me yes, but maybe
not to some of you. It is a matter of preference, but if you think that you can duplicate a car like mine for $35K or less, please be my guess and prove me wrong.

I'll suggest that you guys go to the FI forum from time to time, just so that you can see what it takes $$$ to make a car like this run 500 RWHP. BTW, I hope I'm not coming across as a jerk, I just wanted to share some information with you. Happy holidays everyone

Juan

[slvr98 M]

I actually emailed this guy about his car. The engine is not built it just has a headgasket to lower compression. Thats it for the motor. Everything else is add-ons. Mine is still for sale btw, the ebay buyer was a flake.