think i made a mistake :(

[loudog]

hey all-

i recently bought a 06 325ci as i felt i didnt need/want the extra horsepower of the 330ci (with ZHP).

well, i think i was wrong.

dont get me wrong, i really like my 325, but i feel that 18% extra HP would make me madly in love with my car.

(as an aside, can i just get the engine turbocharged? does that kill the warrenty?)

how much money can i expect to lose by going back to the dealership for a 06 330? should I? should i drive it for a year to absorb some of the cost?

please help (i feel shamed)

[starvingdavid]

woah! Unless the dealer has a return policy, I doubt it, I think you better hang onto it. Your car has just lost a ton of value when you drove it off the lot. If you trade now the dealer is going to have to sell your car at a 'discount.'

I wonder if they would cut you some slack in negotiating for a 330. If I were the dealer I would low-ball the hell out of your trade in, then pretend to give you a deal on a 330. They will make money off you coming and going.

Could you possibly sell the car on Ebay? How many miles do you have on it? Just curious, you went from a camry to a 325 and you still don't have enough power? really?

[loudog]

maybe i am just being greedy :(

[SilverStreak]

as time and money allows, modify it to your liking... think about gears for an extra kick you'll feel every time you drive it, maybe an intake, chip, exhaust, etc...

welcome to bimmerforums, by the way....

[SilverStreak]

and if you have the brand new 325ci, check with themadhatter, he may know some folks that can unlock the extra power, cuz you have a 3.0 liter engine under the hood, and he knows some folks that can convert things over to tune it as such ala the 330, which has the 3.0 liter engine as well...

i believe its cams, maybe heads, software, etc... anyhow, some folks have already done it... maybe post in the E90 3 series forum, or PM themadhatter...

[LeftCoastBias]

and if you have the brand new 325ci, check with themadhatter, he may know some folks that can unlock the extra power, cuz you have a 3.0 liter engine under the hood, and he knows some folks that can convert things over to tune it as such ala the 330, which has the 3.0 liter engine as well...

i believe its cams, maybe heads, software, etc... anyhow, some folks have already done it... maybe post in the E90 3 series forum, or PM themadhatter...
the 06 coupe is still an e46; with a 2.5

[SergeK]

I was at the dealer yesterday... I was looking at a 325i, then read that is has a 3.0 liter engine.

[mosportgreen66]

You might want to try to sell it yourself to leavy some of the costs. I personally do think you're being greedy, it just sounds to me like you settled on the car a little bit.

[Alpine 318is]

I was at the dealer yesterday... I was looking at a 325i, then read that is has a 3.0 liter engine.

yes the e90 325 and 330 both have 3.0 liter engines but the e46 325 doesnt

[loudog]

my car has a 2.5 litre.

what can i do to enhance my current engine? what will mess with the warranty?

[Kingal89]

I definitely would have bought the 330 if I had the money. Sure you can mod it but idk.....My next car is gonna be an M3 i've decided.

[SilverStreak]

the 06 coupe is still an e46; with a 2.5
Oh crap, you're right...

...uh...

...nevermind... :shifty :D

[MP525i]

yes the e90 325 and 330 both have 3.0 liter engines but the e46 325 doesnt

what the crap??

really??? why would they do something like that?

-mike

[tomedkaz]

hey all-

i recently bought a 06 325ci as i felt i didnt need/want the extra horsepower of the 330ci (with ZHP).

well, i think i was wrong.

dont get me wrong, i really like my 325, but i feel that 18% extra HP would make me madly in love with my car.

(as an aside, can i just get the engine turbocharged? does that kill the warrenty?)

how much money can i expect to lose by going back to the dealership for a 06 330? should I? should i drive it for a year to absorb some of the cost?

please help (i feel shamed)


I test drove the 325 and 330ci this week and 330 feels sooo much better. But if you want to modify your 325, why not start off with a straight pipe, downpipe and an upgraded software, and you got yourself the power of 330...and a meaner sound tooo!

[323I Junkie]

I owned a 325 e46, and , I didnt expect racecar qualities out of it. But, being an engine guy, the 2.5 sang to me in beautiful ways. I loved the way that engien revved so willingly and freely, and the way the little engine pulled like a thoroughbred. I lvoed the way my mustang (03 GT) was una. ble to pull on it when we raced on the freeway. I loved the fuel economy. It just, well, it osunds so wonderful when it runs.

I will miss BMW's not having the 2.5, the Little Engine That Could.

I think you are crazy, you have a beautfiul car with good power and fuel efficiency, a manual tranny, and a warranty. Id concentrate on amaybe a few mods, like rims, A Dinan intake (Yes , just for the music) and maybe Dinan exhaust. 50K miles from now, when your car is out of warranty, you can go nuts modding it. THere are m50's out there putting down very solid numbers, you quite a few options, a nd a bulletproof little package there

[LeftCoastBias]

I owned a 325 e46, and , I didnt expect racecar qualities out of it. But, being an engine guy, the 2.5 sang to me in beautiful ways. I loved the way that engien revved so willingly and freely, and the way the little engine pulled like a thoroughbred. I lvoed the way my mustang (03 GT) was una. ble to pull on it when we raced on the freeway. I loved the fuel economy. It just, well, it osunds so wonderful when it runs.

I will miss BMW's not having the 2.5, the Little Engine That Could.

I think you are crazy, you have a beautfiul car with good power and fuel efficiency, a manual tranny, and a warranty. Id concentrate on amaybe a few mods, like rims, A Dinan intake (Yes , just for the music) and maybe Dinan exhaust. 50K miles from now, when your car is out of warranty, you can go nuts modding it. THere are m50's out there putting down very solid numbers, you quite a few options, a nd a bulletproof little package there
put me in coach, put me in!!!!












(nice pep talk abe ;))

[bimmeracer3]

wait for the 335 if you want more power.

[ProRail]

what the crap??

really??? why would they do something like that?

-mike

Putting a 2.5 engine in a 325? Oh, those sneaky devils.

[organic///M]

Go to your dealership and see if you can work something out

[Juicy Double]

what the crap??

really??? why would they do something like that?

-mike
torque

[Dwayne]

Putting a 2.5 engine in a 325? Oh, those sneaky devils.I think he was emphasizing the bit about the E90 325 and 330 both having a 3.0.

[Slick Willi]

just lightly mod it a, cai, exhaust and downpipe maybe some software or something and you will be just as satisfied with less damage to your wallet

[thegman1234]

my car has a 2.5 litre.

what can i do to enhance my current engine? what will mess with the warranty?
dinan supercharger doesn't kill the warrenty.
dinanbmw.com

[tomedkaz]

just lightly mod it a, cai, exhaust and downpipe maybe some software or something and you will be just as satisfied with less damage to your wallet

+1

[santacruisin]

My e36 328is eats e46 325's for breakfast. Get a dinan supercharger.

[loudog]

+1

does Dinan handle what you guys suggested? i just checked thier website and oddly enough they list my dealer as an authorized performance center.....

should i just contact my dealer and tell them what i want?

order specific parts and have them install it?

really,i have no idea about any of this stuff :(

[323I Junkie]

just do what we said, did you even read my post? You are going crazy with mod intentions and you will wind up with mediocrity. YOu are trying to make a mod car out of a 45K dollar machine...insanity

sell it, buy a 10 year old model for cash, and go nuts.

or, just put some in and exhaust and learn to appreciate it'


or, like the other guy said, wait for the 335

why in the name of heaven would you put 15k ON A 45k DOLLAR CAR, and wind spending more money than you would on a 330, a 550 manual, or an almost new e39 M5...insanity

[M3AVUS]

Do not take this the wrong way but before you buy the car you should test drive both and see the difference. You just bought it! Now you dont like it?:nono Anyways, Dinan Mods will keep your car under warranty....

[Xinlitik]

Is there a way to make a 325 have the power of the 330 for less than the price of the upgrade? I really want the extra power, but I dont want all the stuff they throw in with it (logic7, bigger wheels, etc). I hate how they bundle it all together -_-

[loudog]

just do what we said, did you even read my post? You are going crazy with mod intentions and you will wind up with mediocrity. YOu are trying to make a mod car out of a 45K dollar machine...insanity

sell it, buy a 10 year old model for cash, and go nuts.

or, just put some in and exhaust and learn to appreciate it'


or, like the other guy said, wait for the 335

why in the name of heaven would you put 15k ON A 45k DOLLAR CAR, and wind spending more money than you would on a 330, a 550 manual, or an almost new e39 M5...insanity

yes i read your post!


Id concentrate on amaybe a few mods, like rims, A Dinan intake (Yes , just for the music) and maybe Dinan exhaust.

this is like reading japanese to me though. do i just call dinan and tell them i want to add a intake and exhaust to my car? which model/stage?

i know NOTHING about this stuff and i LOVE the ride of my car. i was just somewhat regretting not getting the 330 to begin with and wanted to see what options i had on the aftermarket.....i never mentioned dropping 15k into the car.

[ProRail]

I think he was emphasizing the bit about the E90 325 and 330 both having a 3.0.

Oh, my mistake. Putting a 3.0 engine in a 325? Oh, those sneaky devils.

[SeattleBMW325i]

dinan supercharger doesn't kill the warrenty.
dinanbmw.com

i'm suprised it took that long for someone to say that. definitely dinan is the way to go if you wanna keep your warranty. there's better parts available, but they would kill the warranty, and they aren't better enough to lose the warranty over

[Juicy Double]

Dinan doesn't yet make an sc for the e90. And likely won't. A while back they said they wouldn't sc any cars but M cars (starting with the e39 I believe).

Wait for VF engineering to make a kit.

www.vf-eingineering.com

[loudog]

i dont have a E90

[tomedkaz]

Is there a way to make a 325 have the power of the 330 for less than the price of the upgrade? I really want the extra power, but I dont want all the stuff they throw in with it (logic7, bigger wheels, etc). I hate how they bundle it all together -_-

software upgrade would be the most logical answer, and intake and exhaust and you got yourself a sweet and powerful ride

[323I Junkie]

yes i read your post!



this is like reading japanese to me though. do i just call dinan and tell them i want to add a intake and exhaust to my car? which model/stage?

i know NOTHING about this stuff and i LOVE the ride of my car. i was just somewhat regretting not getting the 330 to begin with and wanted to see what options i had on the aftermarket.....i never mentioned dropping 15k into the car.


DINAN is a master of marketing.

Go to their website, look up your car.
See whats avaialble, or contact them under the contact info.
See the pricing...

I say intake and exhaust simply for racing sound...the m50 makes beautiful music when revved with an intake. I used to pull the muffler of the intake of th 325 just to listen to it

[loudog]

junkie-

the racing sound is just 'thicker' right?

i kind of like the sound of my exhaust now though, i just wanted the extra kick.

what about JUST a software upgrade?

[byslexic]

Putting a 2.5 engine in a 325? Oh, those sneaky devils.

:lol

Really; intake, exhaust, and a chip would do you right. (All dinan to maintain the warranty.)

[323I Junkie]

junkie-

the racing sound is just 'thicker' right?

i kind of like the sound of my exhaust now though, i just wanted the extra kick.

what about JUST a software upgrade?

on that motor, it basically just bumps up the redline.

If you like the way it osunds now...just drive it

damn, I miss ours



I have been a car guy my whole life. I have owned dozens of cars, worked on so many, IM an ASE cert tech, a NATEF cert instructor, Ford Cert, and caryr a bunch of other certs. I teach automtive...Ive worked for a turbo company..ive streetraced most of my driving life....

You know what I like anymore?

Just getting in a remarkable machine and driving it...and not having a f'n clue about whats underneath that woodgrain dash panel
:redspot



ITs what took the shine off my 535...a year into owning it, and i had to rewire the whole thing. Now I know every freaking thing on that car...no mystery
having the operation, the reliabliity, the smoothness, the efficiency...is like a performance factor itself

If you want to appreciate your car more...go drive a 12 second NA mustang for a year straight with no ac.....

[n24tg]

looks like the only thing dinan can provide for your car is an intake, exhaust, throttle body, and software to manage all of them. looks like the peak hp gain is about 12, and the peak torque gain is 10. affects the sound of your car (maybe making you think its faster, which is partially the point here), probably the response, and of course it makes it a bit faster. in reality, im not sure how much its gonna do for you, and it will cost you about $2300 (the parts). it just might give you that extra bit you want. the thing about dinan parts is they do not mess up your warranty in any way, and are supposed to maintain excellent drivability.

just call the nearest dinan parts dealer, and talk to them about it. tell them what you want and theyll gladly take your money.

[Irish1]

I appreciate the honesty of the fellow that started this thread, and his refusal to let some kinda snotty comments here stop him from asking questions. Your BMW dealer may BE a Dinan dealer: easy to find out by calling the service dept. and asking. If so, you could sit down with Service Advisor and discuss Dinan improvements to your car. If your dealer is NOT a Dinan dealer, a check of the Dinan web-site should link you to your closest Dinan BMW dealer. Even an E46 325ic can be huge fun, and after you drive it more you'll start to just appreciate the agility and engine and stop missing the torque difference between it and the 330ic. I see plenty of 325s at track events, and the drivers always seem to be having a blast. ;)

[edhchoe]

$7000 extra for 40HP is worth every dime, IMO.
Shoulda bought a 330i.

[Yuen]

...I will miss BMW's not having the 2.5, the Little Engine That Could.


Mine's the M50 2.0, the Little Engine that couldn't :shifty

[M3SHO]

drive it boss