Guy in BMW got caught doing 140+ in Oregon. Vehicle forfeiture?

[dizwiz21]

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http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...&highlight=bmw

I read this on the corvetteforum website. It infuriated me and I wanted to see if anybody here had more info on it.
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The part that infuriates me isnt the speeding, but the laws in oregon allowing police to seize/forfeit a vehicle caught doing double the speedlimit. I also did some digging and found some laws on the book in oregon making you a felon? if you get 20 traffic citations in a period of 5 years.

I first wanted to see if anyone has more info on this incident. I next wanted to ask if this really is true that oregon will seize/forfeit a vehicle if caught doing double the speed limit.

I finally wanted to ask citizens of Oregon why you let your state legislature put thru laws like this.

If I lived there, Id personally move. 50 in a 25 (although not legal I could see achieving this while passing someone in a fast car), I lose my car? I see a recipe for an automatic police chase if I know Im going to lose it anyways.

I would personally move.

[e39dream]

If some prick got caught around here doing 140 on public roadways, I'd be happy to see him lose his car. I am a fast driver. I catch myself breaking 100+ in the 528i while on the highway. But I also live in a rich yuppie infested suburb where it is all too common for a kid to take 50 grand worth of metal out after school and cause some horrific accident. I think that the deciding factors should be: was the guy racing other motorists? was there drugs/liquor involved? Is it some snot nosed 16 year old? things like that.

[cdb3113]

link no worky fer me

[Dark Helmet]

why is this so unjust????

sounds like good law to me.

[de Witt]

Look up the Oregon statutes and try to discern what is going on. Read up on mens rea and defenses. It is never cut and dry.

[E34M50]

sounds fair to me. its only arguable because there was no accident involved. i don't think we have to wait for that to happen to justify that kind of law now do we....

but it sure is fun to do that on a long stretch of road maybe on the 15 fwy heading to vegas.....

[joyfret]

not 95, not 100, but 145.
a damn suicidal/homicidal behavior.
He put the lives of others at risk, not
to mention his own. It sounds fair.

[DaveAZ]

Doing 140+ on a motorcycle at night on empty open highway is commonplace everywhere. Just because some people are not willing to do it or find it unsafe does not justify the government stealing vehicles from their rightful owners. Ironically- if your vehicle is not paid off, they can't take it.

To me, it is the same as saying: "I find driving a Hyundai to be unsafe; let's take them all away."

Driving at any speed is unsafe. Statistically, "excessive" speed plays less of a role in accidents than cell phone use.

The national highway speed limit of 55 was first set as a fuel saving measure, not a safety measure. (look it up.)

This is a stupid law allowed by ignorant people.

If they wrote a clause in it involving "causing an accident with injuries or damage exceeding $..." I could see it, provided the proceeds of the sale of the vehicle benefit the victim and NOT the state.

[MunichMobile]

The problem is that not all cars are created equal. For example, my 540i is safer at 145mph than my '65 mustang is at only 120mph. Meanwhile, according to the Oregon law, if I did those things in a 70mph zone, the BMW could be taken from me, but the '65 couldn't. That's retarded.

[Joey Link]

I've never heard of anyone having their car taken away for speeding here in Oregon. It may be a statute de jure but I don't believe it happens de facto.

[mihai77]

suck!!!!:(

As long as the state does not pay for the car, they CAN NOT HAVE IT!!! or at least that's how it should be.
Throw the guy in jail, ban him from driving for life, whatever; but they have no right to take the car.

My2c

[Goat128]

If its in the open road late at night I guess thats ok, otherwise though I would support that.

[DaveAZ]

The link does not work, and I can't find a law supporting the claim. The closest I can find is this:

Oregon Revised Statute ORS 809.715 and 809.720 allows police officers to tow a vehicle for violation of the following:

ORS 806.010 - Driving Uninsured
ORS 807.010 - Operating Vehicle Without Driving Privileges
ORS 811.175 - Infraction Driving While Suspended
ORS 811.182 - Criminal Driving While Suspended or Revoked
ORS 813.010 - Driving Under Influence of Intoxicants
ORS 809.710 - Authority to Refuse to Release Vehicle to Intoxicated Person
In order to obtain a release of your vehicle, you must:
Go to the Tigard Police Records Unit located at Tigard City Hall, 13125 SW Hall Blvd, Tigard Oregon 97223. The Records Unit can assist you everyday between 9:00 AM and 9:00 PM.

You must provide the following:

Picture identification such as an Oregon Drivers License
Proof that a person with valid driving privileges will be operating the vehicle
Proof of insurance with the effective dates and listing of the specific vehicle
Payment of $85.00 in CASH to cover administrative fees


Or this:
http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/news/113565211279920.xml&coll=7
Tuesday, December 27, 2005
LORI TOBIAS
NEWPORT -- Counties around the state gave up years ago on trying to confiscate the cars of drunken drivers, but the practice is alive and growing in Lincoln County.

The central coast county ups the ante for anyone convicted of driving under the influence of intoxicants.

Drivers with a first offense, like elsewhere in the state, have their cars impounded and must pay for towing and storage. For a second offense, the car is impounded and drivers must pay an additional $250 fee to reclaim it. On a third conviction, the car belongs to the county.

[cdb3113]

http://www.katu.com/stories/86029.html teh link

[rmalone25]

Though the law allows confiscation, it rarely happens. They just increased the fines for driving over 100.

BTW, keep in mind most of Oregon still suffers under the ridiculous 55 speed limit. Only on the interestates out of metro areas can you go 65 - and no where in the state is it currently legal to exceed 65 - regardless of location, population or conditions (although the Basic Rule law could help mitigate).