m50 non v ....?

[VandBMdubbin]

ok i finally got some money together and im either looking at s/c my m50 (non vanos) or dropping a m52 thicker hg and apr head bolts, then s/c?

would s/c-ing my m50 really do anything for me? or would i see better gains if i switch it up to the m52? and since mine is non v is swapping in the m52 going to be harder?

thanx in advance guys, i appreciate it.

[VandBMdubbin]

thanx for everyones help bump.

this forums is so different from vortex. on vortex everyone is always willing to help one another. here its different, like some people just dont give a shit. it shows when the number of views increase as the day goes by, but yet no replies. thanx guys.

[Geno325is]

have fun on vortex

[bmwperson]

http://www.willamette.edu/gifs/topbar/search.gif

[VandBMdubbin]

http://www.willamette.edu/gifs/topbar/search.gif

do you know how narrow this search engines searches at?

i tried
s/c non v m50
s/c m50

and got nothing.

i dont see what the big deal is if i searched, couldnt find anything and simply asked. it takes two seconds for anyone with expierence to reply.

p.s. why the "have fun on vortex comment" like are you trying to start problems man? because im not. i just wana get some info. i thought we were cool man. especially when i called you a couple months ago and you were helping me out.

[bmwperson]

first of all, you have to do an advanced search and change to search in the post content not only the title.

search for
non vanos compressions
compression vs boost
non vanos advantages

figure out how much boost you want to run then your current compression, then the compression that would be good for the boost level you're trying to run.

ARPs and a HG is def a good idea but you can do that on the nonvanos, I dont know why you'd go all the way thru the engine swap to get the .3l + vanos. A non vanos has dual valve springs and a stronger con rods.

Put a hg+arps, few hours later you're done with the motor, if you blow it up then consider the swap ;)

Finally look at turbos :)

[Robstah]

You could always take the crank out of the M52 and put it in the M50 to create a non-vanos m50b28 (2.8L). That will give you more NA horses but higher compression, in which can be fixed via a thicker headgasket. If you don't have the M52 yet, I think Zionsville sells a stroker kit for this very reason. You could also look into going with an S50 crank to bring you to the 2.9L, and once again, lower the compression via a headgasket. Stroking the engine will probably give you some more power to play with. You can also get a shrick intake cam and move the current intake cam over to the exhaust side for the same, if not better, cam setup than the S50.

[ebydrc]

with all the progress the m50 and m52 are making from turbo applications why are you considering that route? or sitck to your front wheel drive vdub j/k

david

[byron]

turbo ftw

[VandBMdubbin]

i dont need compresion ratios. i just want to hear how people like there s/c non v m50 thats all.

i keep considering to just turbo the thing. but i dont wana run stand alone, or m/s. and i havent been able to find a chip, i want to peice this kit together, and i will if i can just find a dam chip.

[ebydrc]

finding a chip isnt that hard

david

[Geno325is]

finding a chip isnt that hard

david

Vanos chips, maybe - but non vanos is rare

[ebydrc]

Vanos chips, maybe - but non vanos is rare

eck nevermind

david

[5mall5nail5]

If you build a custom kit, you need custom tuning - if you get a burned tuning chip from someone and it works properly, your setup is obviously not very custom.

You can't build a custom house using a cookie-cutter floorpan.

[328ischef]

I vote for you just going back to Vortex, VW's are much cooler anyways

[VandBMdubbin]

If you build a custom kit, you need custom tuning - if you get a burned tuning chip from someone and it works properly, your setup is obviously not very custom.

You can't build a custom house using a cookie-cutter floorpan.

jon (blowneuroz) was working on a megasquirt for his. i give him his credit hes a genius at that stuff. but if he gets it down good, ill prob do the same thing.

p.s there nothing wrong with vw's. around here most of the guys that own bmws, owned a vw before. i respect your opinion, but dont come on here and ruin the thread by bashing me or vw's. thanx i appreciate it.

[LexdiamonNYC]

from what i have seen here, there's a whole lot of talk about how the M50 non-vanos is the best motor for FI and monster RWHP numbers because of the thicker cylinder walls and not having a vanos unit that can potentially fail...........still i have not seen a monster M50 non-vanos in the US........just a few mild set ups...........

[5mall5nail5]

from what i have seen here, there's a whole lot of talk about how the M50 non-vanos is the best motor for FI and monster RWHP numbers because of the thicker cylinder walls and not having a vanos unit that can potentially fail...........still i have not seen a monster M50 non-vanos in the US........just a few mild set ups...........

Sit tight.

[dredder]

Sit tight.
:buttrock

[VandBMdubbin]

Sit tight.

i think we all are jon. cant wait to see the beast. im going to start doing stuff to mine. ill im you tonight about it.

[byron]

why dont you call aa and see if they can give you a remote tune. talk to karl.

[e36'n]

AA is way too much money. There's better non-vanos tuning around for much cheaper ;)