95 Hellrot M3 Widebody Rear

[Bav///Man]

Hello all,

As the title states, I am thinking about selling my 95 M3 with a custom widebody rear. This rear allows you to fit rims with an E46 M3 offset on an E36 M3. I am currently running 18X9.5 et22 with a 275 tire. The fenders are made from 325 body panels and are welded in.

~80,500 miles. The car just had an inspection 2 done and the engine is extremely strong. Power steering hoses were just fixed along with diff seals, tie rod assemblies, valve cover gasket, serpentine belts, and an alignment.

Mods include:
Stromung Exhaust
Bilstein/H+R Sport
Cosmos Intake
24 lb injectors
TMS/Conforti Chip
540i HFM
UUC Pedals
Custom fog light delete with holes cut for intake
Black out grills (newer than the ones shown and in perfect condition)
Clears all around

The wheels that come with the car are Hamann style 17X8.5 and 17X10 in the rear.

The car really drives well. This may sound stupid, but I honestly get teary when thinking about selling this thing.

Asking 18k/obo...will entertain offers so don't be shy.

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0394small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0396small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0397small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0398small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0399small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0402small.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/DSCN0405small.jpg

[adamnur]

:bluecry1 I've always loved your car. Good luck with the sale..and btw you forgot to list clears and your ellipsoids/angel eyes.

[Bav///Man]

:bluecry1 I've always loved your car. Good luck with the sale..and btw you forgot to list clears and your ellipsoids/angel eyes.
Thanks for the compliment. The clears are def included...and the ZKWs....we'll see.

The black out grills are newer than the ones shown and have no chips.

[Uzy7686]

Any interior pics? And also whats your asking price for it??

[Bav///Man]

No interior pics at the moment, it's black leather w/vaders.

As far as asking price, it's only a feeler so I am basically wanting people to throw out numbers for what they think it is worth. I'm obviously expecting more because of the price of the custom body work, but I'm very reasonable and would like to hear what you guys think.

[bmwe39fan]

How many miles -- and can you give a range of price you are looking for?

[Bav///Man]

80k miles....as far as price range....I have one in mind but I'd first like to hear what people want to throw out. You don't have to be stuck to your number, I just want to hear guesses.

[bigjetmech]

14K, maybe 15K.

[Bav///Man]

def fair for a 95 m3 with 80k. but let me remind you the complexity and cost of the custom work

[avus blue 95 M3]

def fair for a 95 m3 with 80k. but let me remind you the complexity and cost of the custom work
i'm guessing the magic number is $19,000;)

[Boosted2003]

Im guessing around 17-18k isnt to off. Considering the wheel upgrades and body work done. If i were to get if I wasnt able to se in person I would want to see pictures of rear fenders up close.

[gota525i]

Car is amazing, good luck with the sale.

[Mr.M]

You should probably post a price as per forum rules. You can always post high and negotiate down . . .
Anyways, sick car dude. Very tastefully done widebody. Am curious to see what it goes for.

[Yahosh]

Dude, those pics are on JMU's campus aren't they!? Bump for a Duke.:buttrock

[FastrTHNu]

wanna make a trade for the turbo? :devillook

*cough*M5 V-8 cough* :devillook

[Bav///Man]

Im guessing around 17-18k isnt to off. Considering the wheel upgrades and body work done. If i were to get if I wasnt able to se in person I would want to see pictures of rear fenders up close.
Asking 18.

pics coming in the near future. Sorry to seemingly ignore the rear here, but we were trying to get the background in that photoshoot.

[Boosted2003]

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pics coming in the near future. Sorry to seemingly ignore the rear here, but we were trying to get the background in that photoshoot.

Hell yeah JMU campus!


its fine. Its looks so good. I would love a rear shoot of the car.

[Bav///Man]

its fine. Its looks so good. I would love a rear shoot of the car.
is this more what you are looking for?

http://home.comcast.net/~fick182/m3/oldpics


Dude, those pics are on JMU's campus aren't they!? Bump for a Duke.:buttrock
Hell yeah they are! Thanks.


wanna make a trade for the turbo? :devillook

*cough*M5 V-8 cough* :devillook
I do love your rwhp #s.

18 is the asking price, I will definitely listen to reasonable offers.

[BavariaMotorWrk]

DAamn

[MKDeuce]

sweet car, g/l !!

[sullen723]

very nice...I want a pair of rear fenders like that!

[Alpin3r]

Hey if you can get some pics of the fenders/rear. Interior and motor for me that would be great.

I have that much cash and it needs some spending, so lets see what we can work out.....

-Craig

[bigjetmech]

Pics of the interior please.

[Bav///Man]

pics of rear setup here:

http://home.comcast.net/~fick182/m3/oldpics

I'll snap some of the motor and interior shortly. Sorry if there may be a short delay for new pics as it is winter here and I need a semi-warm day for a good thorough cleaning and photoshoot (23 here in VA without windchill).

Alpin3r, that's what I like to hear!

[FreyMan]

You have such a nice car man! I just recently bought a 95 m3 hellrot, here in cali. Just want to give you a bump for sporting the hellrot!

[Rocket26]

I've worked on this car a bit (installing the ZKW's and HID's), and fixing a couple of the little minute details that no one notices but Dave, who is madly in love with his car. Drives like a dream, and the pictures don't do it justice. The car is really flawlessly done. The widebody is like a work of art.

I'll be sad to see it go.

[nelll504]

that's definitely the nicest widebody kit I've seen on an E36...
good luck w/ sale...

[AndrewH]

Beautiful Car. Where in NJ did you used to live? Looks like somehere in Northern NJ.

[Bav///Man]

twas actually the old owner. He lived in Newark and North Arlington.

[erikerikerik]

No interior pics at the moment, it's black leather w/vaders.

As far as asking price, it's only a feeler so I am basically wanting people to throw out numbers for what they think it is worth..
now now, I got my chops busted for not posting an asking price. you gota post yours


forum rules. if youre going to post something here. post an asking price. thank you.

*note I didnt read the rest of the thread.

[bmwe39fan]

Could you post the VIN number and also is the front lip removable? Some of the pictures seem to show a different front lip?

[Bav///Man]

now now, I got my chops busted for not posting an asking price. you gota post yours



*note I didnt read the rest of the thread.
I did post an asking price and have now modified the orignal post. But I'm still not afraid of Preppy. :stickoutt

VIN is WBSBF9324SEH05992

The front lip is correct on the pictures that were taken in front of the athletic building with the gray E36. The pictures from Jersey shows how the front end used to look. I swapped it out. My recommendation would be to not get a fiberglass lip, especially when it is so close to the ground!

[Rocket26]

I did post an asking price and have now modified the orignal post. But I'm still not afraid of Preppy. :stickoutt

VIN is WBSBF9324SEH05992

The front lip is correct on the pictures that were taken in front of the athletic building with the gray E36. The pictures from Jersey shows how the front end used to look. I swapped it out. My recommendation would be to not get a fiberglass lip, especially when it is so close to the ground!
Its titanium silver.

(bumperoo)

[Spennie]

Bump for a SICK car and a really good price. That car would sell for $25,000USD here in Canada.. 18k is a steal!

Beautiful work!

[Bav///Man]

Thanks! You know, I am not opposed to shipping it to Canada. :devillook

[Rocket26]

Thanks! You know, I am not opposed to shipping it to Canada. :devillook
I found you a temporary beater to drive while you are bimmerless.... that is... assuming you are bimmerless for a while.

[redrocket328]

Dave... why? finally decide to go with OBD-II or you want something else?
Bump for one beautiful car. Ive seen it on many occasions and it is nearly immaculate w/ one cool ass custom widebody. GL with the sale and for everyone interested, you will be very impressed.

[Bav///Man]

good ol' Monday bump...come on people!

[dmundy]

good ol' Monday bump...come on people!

I'm thinking, I'm thinking!

[bmwe39fan]

Were the exterior moldings removed and painted? Reason I ask is that I would be interested in going back to black moldings all around, including the bumpers.

[Bav///Man]

Yes, moldings were removed and painted. Black moldings would fit everywhere except where they are custom (just cut a few inches really) near the rear fenders to accomodate for the flares. Any adequate body shop would have no trouble with such a simple modification.

[Rocket26]

Yes, moldings were removed and painted. Black moldings would fit everywhere except where they are custom (just cut a few inches really) near the rear fenders to accomodate for the flares. Any adequate body shop would have no trouble with such a simple modification.
I told you black moldings were FTW.

[Rocket26]

bump for dave...

[dmundy]

bump for dave...

Thanks!!! Oh... Wrong Dave. Bump anyway ;)

[STL Avus M3]

Nice car, man. Really like the fenders and got a couple questions.

How was the bumper and side skirts made wider? Bondo, plastic what?

Are the fenders all metal? I know you mentioned something about 325 fenders, but how is exactly was it all put together?

Was the trim just trimmed? How did you make the end of the trim look normal?

Roughly how much did all the body work cost?

Thanks a bunch.

[Rocket26]

Nice car, man. Really like the fenders and got a couple questions.

How was the bumper and side skirts made wider? Bondo, plastic what?

Are the fenders all metal? I know you mentioned something about 325 fenders, but how is exactly was it all put together?

Was the trim just trimmed? How did you make the end of the trim look normal?

Roughly how much did all the body work cost?

Thanks a bunch.
Dave has been neglecting his thread, so I'll do my best here... I'll call him and tell him to correct me where I make mistakes when I get off work.

The fenders are sheet metal and were made from 325i fenders (so as not to leave the car out of comission forever). The skirts are widened with fiberglass.

Basically (from what I've seen and understand) they found a wrecked 325 and cut off the fenders, and added on sheetmetal to widen it. The sheetmetal was then shaped to the widebody and welded into place. Body filler was used to smooth the edges, and give it the nice look you see in the pictures.

The trim was just trimmed and sanded down to match. Its also painted, so you can't see the sanding work done, it flows pretty nicely and looks stock.

I can't speak to how much it cost...

[STL Avus M3]

Ok, now its starting to make more sense. By fenders, do you mean quarter panels? I also call the fronts fenders and the rear quarter panels.


I am really interest in how much that cost to have done, because it looks great.

[hupps]

Someone PLEASE buy this car so I don't!!
: )

[Bav///Man]

Someone PLEASE buy this car so I don't!!
: )
you should!

Sorry I've been neglecting this sale as of late. I'll get some more pics of interior, engine, rear end, that kind of stuff shortly.

[328iz]

sick car. G/l with the sale

[Sherman321]

bump for NOVA

and a sweet car

[Bav///Man]

pics of rear end and interior to come tomorrow...stay tuned

[XanDer]

hey if this car sticks around till sept i will def buy it!.....wishful thinkin in know...

[Bav///Man]

hey if this car sticks around till sept i will def buy it!.....wishful thinkin in know...
It better not. But if it does....

it's yours.

[WRX2M3]

Looking for pics please... thanks

[Bav///Man]

Looking for pics please... thanks
pics are on first page of thread.

I'm posting more this evening also...stay tuned

[Bav///Man]

pics. I sincerely apologize for the HORRIBLE quality :(

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb1.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb2.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb3.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb4.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb5.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb6.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb7.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb8.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb9.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb10.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb11.jpg

http://falcon.jmu.edu/~fickdl/m3/wb12.jpg

[NSM]

Nice car!! Beautifully and tastefully done!

[XanDer]

looks like u got rid of the zkw's...is the hid kit still in?

[XanDer]

by the way.... damn....shes beautiful.....

[Bav///Man]

looks like u got rid of the zkw's...is the hid kit still in?
Nope.

Thanks for the compliments, guys!

After I cleaned the car, it looked so beautiful.

:(

[mischiefteck]

i live in mclean va
my uncle is interested and we like to take a look at the M

[M3sRsick]

Hey Dave, if you would've posted this 2 months earlier I would've gave you 20k for my old car back =( it's a shame, ohh well congrats to the new owner who ever it may be.

Just to answere a few of the questions that came up, the cost was basically nothing to me due to a good friend who owns the shop. He did quote me 5k just for shits and giggles, I paid for materials and that's it. The fenders are made of other BMW body panels cut into very tiny squares and welded into place to give it rigidity (i have pictures of the process). The flares were then grinded down smooth and layered with filler to make it nice and smooth.
The skirts and bumpers were also made of BMW Bumpers cut into guides and then layered with fiberglass, filler, and painted. The quality of the work is amazing and your not gonna see a ding or dent that easily on the flares like the rest of the body panels. In fact to prove to me how strong the flares were, my body guy hit it with piece of wood and it didn't even leave a mark.
The inside of the quarters were prepped and smoothed to accomodate the large tires (i was running 275's on a set of 19" wheels).
When buying wheels I was having the car measured for a set of HRE's and was originally supposed to go with a set of 19x12 in the rear with 300mm tires. I came into money issues and just settled for 19x10's maya stm's.

And that was some history on this M3, hope this helps some of you prospective buyers out. (sorry for sloppy writing, im at work and internet is a no no. :devillook )

[Rocket26]

i live in mclean va
my uncle is interested and we like to take a look at the M
He will not be disappointed... shoot dave a PM or hit me up and I'll give you his number...

[Boosted2003]

I would love to see the pictures of the process man. Im a sucker for great body work.

[BMWWWW]

VERY nice!! and tempting... whats the current price? and how far from pittsburgh, PA?

[Bav///Man]

VERY nice!! and tempting... whats the current price? and how far from pittsburgh, PA?
239 mi (about 4 hours 53 mins) from Pittsburgh quoted by google maps.

Asking price lowered to 17,999.

[Bav///Man]

Hey Dave, if you would've posted this 2 months earlier I would've gave you 20k for my old car back =( it's a shame, ohh well congrats to the new owner who ever it may be.

Just to answere a few of the questions that came up, the cost was basically nothing to me due to a good friend who owns the shop. He did quote me 5k just for shits and giggles, I paid for materials and that's it. The fenders are made of other BMW body panels cut into very tiny squares and welded into place to give it rigidity (i have pictures of the process). The flares were then grinded down smooth and layered with filler to make it nice and smooth.
The skirts and bumpers were also made of BMW Bumpers cut into guides and then layered with fiberglass, filler, and painted. The quality of the work is amazing and your not gonna see a ding or dent that easily on the flares like the rest of the body panels. In fact to prove to me how strong the flares were, my body guy hit it with piece of wood and it didn't even leave a mark.
The inside of the quarters were prepped and smoothed to accomodate the large tires (i was running 275's on a set of 19" wheels).
When buying wheels I was having the car measured for a set of HRE's and was originally supposed to go with a set of 19x12 in the rear with 300mm tires. I came into money issues and just settled for 19x10's maya stm's.

And that was some history on this M3, hope this helps some of you prospective buyers out. (sorry for sloppy writing, im at work and internet is a no no. :devillook )
Fil,

Thanks for chiming in! Cool 95 M3, but you really should sell the purple one and get your Hellrot WB back. It's still amazing.

[M3sRsick]

Fil,

Thanks for chiming in! Cool 95 M3, but you really should sell the purple one and get your Hellrot WB back. It's still amazing.

Believe me if I would've known earlier I would be driving it right now, I am very partial to the car but I got my current one for a steal. :D so what's next on the list e46? or back to the e30 M3? lol

[Bav///Man]

bump, remember, it's...

$17,999 obo

at least throw out an o

[Bav///Man]

bumpity....thinking of going ebay

[A ///Monster]

what a sweet car! it used to be on my desktop for a while. I wish I had the money for it.

You must be getting something good to replace it with.

[sumadaz]

I can't believe this car is still for sale. I didn't see the mileage listed but I had a couple questions for you, can you email me at sumadaz@ku.edu because I am interested in this car provided a couple things check out.

I can't PM you for some reason, so an email would be greatly appreciated.

[Bav///Man]

I can't believe this car is still for sale. I didn't see the mileage listed but I had a couple questions for you, can you email me at sumadaz@ku.edu because I am interested in this car provided a couple things check out.

I can't PM you for some reason, so an email would be greatly appreciated.
emailed.

[e36]

did i skip over the mileage somewhere? you still at jeresy by anychance?

[Bav///Man]

did i skip over the mileage somewhere? you still at jeresy by anychance?
~80,500

No, but I'm in DC. Easily driveable.

[e36]

i am seriously in love with this car. lets see how much doh i can make this summer.

[turbo5spd]

bump for you. I saw this car last week or the week before when leaving work (I work in the Tysons Corner area). I knew I had seen it on the net somewhere...

Anyway, very clean car and the only one I've seen like it.

[Bav///Man]

bump for you. I saw this car last week or the week before when leaving work (I work in the Tysons Corner area). I knew I had seen it on the net somewhere...

Anyway, very clean car and the only one I've seen like it.
thanks!

[Ehayes46]

Sent you a pm!

[Bav///Man]

look! a buyer!



Hello,

Thanks for your email, the answers to my questions were well accepted.

I have spoken to my client and he has instructed me to inform you that payment will get to you in a cashier cheque of $25,500is a refund payment of a cancelled order earlier made by my client.

Due to company policy this check has to be made out in this amount to you ,because company policy only allows a refund payment on one cashier cheque, so you are required to deduct cost of your car $18,000payment gets to you and refund balance $7,500 to my clients shippers via western union money transfer for them to be able to offset shipping charges down here and from there.

After payment has reached you and balance sent back to him, our agent will come for inspection/pick-up and take it to a prepaid shipper to be shipped to my customer,while title papers and other necessary documents will be either collected from you at the point of pick-up or sent via fedex courier to my customer.

Confirm this and provide

1)Name (cheque will be made payable to),

2)Address ( the check will be deliverred to) and Phone number for check payment to be delivered to you via registerred mail.

Thanks...

[Bav///Man]

no kidding, ebay tomorrow night at like 7-8 PM

[B Mizzle]

I dont know how u could seel that its amazing

Good Luck

[Bav///Man]

on ebay. I guess one last bump here?

[e36]

lets see the link

[Bav///Man]

lets see the link
linking to ebay auctions are against our rules :(

[burton5864]

I drove this car once, I liked it so much, I drove it to the gas station and filled the tank...

[niquesuave06]

how about a pm of an ebay auction?

[///mzeasy]

just search m3 widebody, you'll find it

[FastrTHNu]

WHOA!!!!

I sent you a PM about the car a long time ago.


Please contact me A.S.A.P

Thanks

[Bav///Man]

bump as the ebay buyer was a deadbeat bidder.

[Bav///Man]

OK then, you tell me what you think you should pay???

[cervi]

Gorgeous car, too bad I don't have only 15k in my pocket...wish it was black though
Bump

[Bav///Man]

What a car!

[95BimmerGuy]

if you still have your car send me a email im interested ina m3 and i live in louisville. i'll drive up to dc to buy it. aaron@buildmax.com thanks

[Bav///Man]

bump.

I love the rear end on this car. :(

[M3/4 LIFE]

Dave ... Didn't you just put a TT Stage 2 on this car?????? And you're selling it??? How much? Your original post said 18k ... that cant be right ... with the TT kit. I apologize if im getting lost in all this ... but I read in the FI forum that you put a TT kit on your car. Is this the car? :confused

Otherwise ... that car is freakin beautiful. Get me the details.

EDIT: ok im an idiot. you got 2 red e36 m3's. i got confused. regardless ... awesome car GL with the sale!

[Bav///Man]

thinking about ebay again.

I can't stand to look at this car every day and not drive it! The rear end is amazing :eyecrazy

[Bav///Man]

bumpity

[jiminator]

Very interested, I will send you an email. Beautiful car.

My email jamesbush5@gmail.com.

[jiminator]

Tried sending you an email, not sure if you got it. I am definately interested in the car. Send me a PM, or email me jamesbush5@gmail.com

[Bav///Man]

SOLD.

Congrats to a new happy BF.C member. :redspot

[XanDer]

damnit....