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badbadm
08-13-2002, 03:33 PM
By Bill Green Fast Company, Sept 2002...

The redesigned 7 Series is leading the charge, and it has met with plenty of return fire. Bangle's design team reshaped the 7's back end by raising the trunk lid and widening the opening. It also introduced a digitized system, dubbed iDrive, which enables drivers to control 270 features-from the navigation system to the built-in phone to the surround-sound stereo-by using a mouse-like device to scroll through menus on a screen situated atop the dashboard. The radical look and the attempt to reimagine the human-computer interface in a car have shocked some critics and buyers. More than 2,000 people have signed a "Stop Chris Bangle" petition on petitiononline.com, calling on BMW to fire its design chief. (Presumably, the entry "I hate myself for that design!" signed by one "Chris Bangle" is a fake.)
BMW counters that sales are running 17% ahead of those for the previous 7 Series during the same early months of its life in the mid-1990s. Adrian Van Hooydonk, president of Designworks and the man who first sketched the new 7 and developed its styling, contends that BMW's flagship car was in danger of being stifled by the weight of its own history.
"Over the years, we've been very successful in defining the BMW look, which we've done by being very precise in our designs," he says. "But when you make only incremental changes, you find yourself in a corridor that gets narrower and narrower. Finally, you reach a dead end, and by then, the customer has abandoned you for a car that's fresh and new. We had to break through
that corridor. The goal for the new 7 was to push the boundaries as far as we could. You can't be a leader if you're not out in front."

umnitza
08-13-2002, 03:40 PM
I signed the petition.

WJones
08-13-2002, 03:41 PM
I saw one this morning. I dig it. That car is the "big daddy" of them all.

MDabney
08-13-2002, 04:11 PM
Originally posted by WJones
I saw one this morning. I dig it. That car is the "big daddy" of them all.

More like the "big ASS daddy"... but that's just me. :D

Here are some more "insightful" comments from the female gender... BMW 7-Series Makeover Sure to Appeal to Women (http://home.att.net/~mdabney/BMW_745i.htm)

Enjoy.

badbadm
08-13-2002, 05:33 PM
<also from the end of the same article>

It's just around midnight, and Bangle is lingering over a Weiss beer in a trendy Munich restaurant. He is thinking about Stephen Jay Gould, the renowned author and paleontologist who died this past May. Or rather, he is thinking about Gould's controversial theory known as punctuated equilibrium, which argues that evolution proceeds slowly, but not always steadily; it is sometimes interrupted by sudden, rapid change. Bangle believes that cars evolve in a similar fashion. And he is convinced that BMWs are entering a period of abrupt, accelerated change in their own evolution.

Bangle contends that BMW is willing to live with this high-risk strategy over the short term, in hopes of nailing big, long-term gains. Ultimately, the market will decide whether the 7 and the Z4 are the right cars for the time. Bangle's thoughts are on the future. "BMW's mandatory retirement age is 60 for senior management, which means that I've got just 14 years left here," he says while exiting the FIZ. "That's two generations in car years just two shots at making an impact." And with that, he was gone. He was last seen heading west, head held high, driving a bold, red 7.

Bimmerhead
08-25-2002, 12:43 AM
Don't get me started :bigun2: :boid: :finger22: :spank:

MP525i
08-30-2002, 08:16 AM
F- the new 7!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Everyone has been acting like he didn't do anything wrong! People are "warming up" to the new 7. Well, I still think it's ugly. Like I keep telling all my friends. That's fine. Let the new uglier models come out. That just means if I want a 7 (E38) it'll be cheaper and better looking when I drive on the streets.

So let the morons drive their ugly big assed 7. It'll just make the E38's look that much better. BTW: mom soon hopes to get 2000 740i sport come next april. :D :D :D



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Now maybe I was a bit harsh. The new 7 has a lot of great internals. Just, the overall look of it makes me want to barf. I hope that they turn it around. Like a 95 7 compared to a 2001. There are changes that were made but kept the overall styling. If they fixed the trunk, did something to the side doors, front spoiler, kidney grills, interior gauges (back to traditional), i-Crap change, Gross wood kit and get rid of that gay-ass push button start garbage, then it wouldn't be that bad. BTW: WHAT THE F#*@ IS WITH ALL THE PUSH BUTTON STARTS.........GGGGGAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!

LowTech
08-31-2002, 12:22 AM
Guys - I won't debate aesthetics - it is just too subjective. I won't even offer my own thoughts on the E38 and E65 design. Won't even tell you which design I like better, if any.

That said, I can offer this one observation: In two months, my E65 has received more raves from strangers than my three previous sevens (and current E38) combined! :dunno

These people are not being polite. They genuinely like the styling. The majority are male, but they cross all ages. Sometimes, I just want to pump my gas or buy my paper, and people stop me and want to look at it. Really can't exaggerate the positive response. It is embarassing, really.

Not looking to debate or change anyone's mind. I buy cars for my own personal reasons, absolutely disregarding others opinions of style. (Then again, you should hear what my wife says about my wardrobe! :eek: ) Just sharing my experience.

XZLR8
09-16-2002, 04:50 PM
I've had the same experience, LowTech. In fact, just last night when we were leaving for dinner, my wife commented... "think we can make it to the restaurant & back without someone stopping you to ask about the car?"

Could be worse....

umnitza
09-16-2002, 05:06 PM
we're all just bitter that a new model has come out with more power and better suspension bits:)

nah...we really do dislike the design;) Some of use, coughbimmerheadcough could have easily purchased a new E65, but I had the pleasure today of driving behind my wife's 7 series and another E65 and to me, it was simply no comparison. It was sort of like the difference between a lear jet (my wife's car) and a 747. Both get you there, but one makes you look good doing it;)