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jasonknezo
05-02-2005, 12:52 PM
hey guys i got the H&R race springs with Koni Adjustables on the car, can u guys tell me what a good alignment would be for a street car with tire wear average, i plan to print these out and bring to the alignment shop thanks-jason

SG_M3
05-02-2005, 01:05 PM
Front:
0 toe
camber is non adjustable
caster is non adjustable

Rear:
3/16 total rear toe
Pull as much rear camber out as you can. < -2 degrees should work

ChipM
05-02-2005, 02:34 PM
Front:
0 toe
camber is non adjustable
caster is non adjustable

Rear:
3/16 total rear toe
Pull as much rear camber out as you can. < -2 degrees should work

First, I'd start with at least a little toe-in. Stock spec is about 1/32; you need a little toe-in on a street car or they wander very badly.

Second, the -2 rear camber should be a LOADED measurement per BMW alignment specs (stock is closer to -1.75). If you put -2 on an empty car, it will show about -3.5 when loaded to the spec BMW measures at, and will wear the insides of the tires very fast. I found this out the hard way.

cozmo kraemer
05-02-2005, 02:44 PM
I have zero toe in the front and my car does not wander at all...our roads are pretty nice out here though.

My Loaded settings are:
Front
-2.6 camber
0 toe

Rear
-1.5 camber
1/8 total toe in

I really like these alignemnt settings! Talk about improving the way a car handles...alignment makes the absolute biggest improvement!

I also get very good tire wear at these settings...I had way too much toe in the rear before and a lot less camber and the tires wore 10 times as fast on the insides. Toe settings are very important for tire wear.

ArcticFox
05-02-2005, 02:50 PM
First, I'd start with at least a little toe-in. Stock spec is about 1/32; you need a little toe-in on a street car or they wander very badly.

Second, the -2 rear camber should be a LOADED measurement per BMW alignment specs (stock is closer to -1.75). If you put -2 on an empty car, it will show about -3.5 when loaded to the spec BMW measures at, and will wear the insides of the tires very fast. I found this out the hard way.

I would agree...a BIT of toe in would prolly be best. you will compromise a little turn in, but the car will be less darty when on "uneven" roadways, and under braking.

My alignment specs are:

-2.5 camber all around (increase to -3.5 front for the track)
about 1/16" toe in front and rear
Max castor

SG_M3
05-02-2005, 02:53 PM
First, I'd start with at least a little toe-in. Stock spec is about 1/32; you need a little toe-in on a street car or they wander very badly.

Second, the -2 rear camber should be a LOADED measurement per BMW alignment specs (stock is closer to -1.75). If you put -2 on an empty car, it will show about -3.5 when loaded to the spec BMW measures at, and will wear the insides of the tires very fast. I found this out the hard way.

I run 0 toe and have no issue with it. Though Chip is correct, if you want better highway manners run slight toe in. If you want the best tire wear, run 0 toe.

If the alignment place doesn't weight the car, they don't know what they are doing.

jasonknezo
05-02-2005, 04:51 PM
ok so for a daily street driven car with tire wear and performance in mind what is the best setup, just give me some solid numbers with a little toe in and a good rear tire wear and handling compromise number car gets aligned on thursday

jasonknezo
05-02-2005, 09:14 PM
bump?

SG_M3
05-02-2005, 11:52 PM
3 people gave you specs.