Makr, Geoff, Lewis, and Johnny getting it AWN at SOLO II (Video)

[SehrSchnell]

This was deep deep in the "racing sunday" thread, I decided to rescue it and surface it for you all to see.

REMEMBER, only the best RIGHT CLICK & SAVE AS: :buttrock


<a href="http://www.wildyoats.com/Digging%20it.wmv"><img border="0" src="http://www.wildyoats.com/images/Geoffsvid.jpg" width="300" height="143"></a>

[///Molloy]

:eek:

[Teh Slows]

Johnny, was that your first time?

[SehrSchnell]

Johnny, was that your first time?

At a SOLO II event yes, taking part in a track event no. I also get a lot of track time in yearly, however it is in a Crown Vic. (I'm an instructor for the state).

[SehrSchnell]

:eek:

Molloy is back! How was your trip homey?

[Tonus]

Ya that is da shiet, check out my ass in the black E46 gripping the "ohhhh shit" handle to death!!!!


AWESOME VIDEO THANKS :alright

[adams]

:buttrock

[croberts12]

That video rocked my face off! :buttrock

[Sean061887]

That was pretty cool! who was the best out of you guys?

[Makr]

That was pretty cool! who was the best out of you guys?



Who do you think? Crazy goes a long way.

[chmdrm]

30 cars in SM

Makr has played solo 2 a bit before and was 14th
Johnny has not played this game, but has "some track experience" 15th
Geoff was a total nooob and was 25th so it was at least nice to beat someone

The thing that was the best was Makr's car because of it's light mods might have been able to run in an easier class, and Johnny's 5er was on stock suspension.

[DarkGift]

That was pretty cool! who was the best out of you guys?

Results are kept here:

http://results.utahscca.com/results/2005/

Usually posted within a few hours after the events.

SM specific results:

http://results.utahscca.com/results/2005/event_2_ecenter_class.htm#sm

Nice vid!

Great to see so many BMWs coming out. :redspot

[SehrSchnell]

Results are kept here:

http://results.utahscca.com/results/2005/

Usually posted within a few hours after the events.

SM specific results:

http://results.utahscca.com/results/2005/event_2_ecenter_class.htm#sm

Nice vid!

Great to see so many BMWs coming out. :redspot

This guy here /\ is the bomb! (Todd I think, right?) He rocked everyone and is quite the driver. Way to go man.

His car:

http://www.wildyoats.com/images/SII2.jpg

[VitSports6]

Looking good guy's, I tried to watch all of it but I had to cut it short for work, I hope to get out to at least watch some time, Im only a few blocks away.

[Makr]

Yeah Todd thows his name in, in the last minute. :rolleyes


Hahah j/k Nice drive man.

[VitSports6]

So, just out of curriosity, How do they decide what class you are in? The guy I bought the M3 from said he had to race with the BAMF's , The M3 only has the DINAN reprogram and cold air intake... Any idea what class?
I gotta get out when I get some better tires.
Thanks

[DarkGift]

I didn't throw my name in, just pointed people to results :stickoutt

WRT to classing, it is rather complex. You can download the rules from here:

http://www.scca.com/_filelibrary/File/2005SoloRules.pdf

A chip + intake takes you out of stock class. Options are STU (Street Touring, must be on street tires), BSP (Street Prepared), or SM (Street Modified) for the E36 M3.

But honestly at the regional level except for a few cars, it mainly comes down to having good tires and good driving. R Compound tires (Kumho 710's or Hoosier A3S05's) will gain you more time than anything, next would be springs and shocks.

The largest improvements however come from seat time. Autox is very different than track driving, though lots of track experience helps.

The next event is in Wendover on the 23rd and 24th (two seprate events). I'll be there, and am happy to ride along or give rides (as time permits, the ride list tends to grow rapidly and I'm always owing rides from the previous event when I couldn't fit everyone in.) The one drag of having a fast car is that you spend all this money to take out weight, but then end up giving 200+ lbs passengers rides all the time. :eyecrazy But it's all good when you see the smile on their face after the run and they are saying "oh my god, oh my god." LOL.

[VitSports6]

The one drag of having a fast car is that you spend all this money to take out weight, but then end up giving 200+ lbs passengers rides all the time. :eyecrazy But it's all good when you see the smile on their face after the run and they are saying "oh my god, oh my god." LOL.
Agree'd, I was a 170 pound guy in the passenger seat, But I have yet given it a shot, I will see when the next e-Center race is, With 2 little kid's it's hard to pull away from home.
Thanks for the info :redspot

[GSBMW325is]

I somehow got fourth in SM driving a relatively unfamiliar car and I had to count a run with a cone penalty as my best. Damn, I'm either very lucky or very good. Maybe a little of both, but mostly luck me thinks!

Can't wait to get the 332is back out. Getting close. Might be able to give Todd a little competition. He looks lonely out there waaaay ahead of everyone else!

I hope the BMW's keep up the strong showing at future events!!!!

[chmdrm]

I think you can count on us to keep coming back.

With more seat time we might even start to catch up!

[Uli]

I think you can count on us to keep coming back.

With more seat time we might even start to catch up!I'm sure you will catch up fast. That just makes it more interesting for everyone else racing with you guys.

You should take Dark up on his offer to give you rides or have him run with you in your cars. I think it took me like almost a year to get a ride in his racing car. But you probably weigh less than 200+lbs and may have a better chance... :lol

[SehrSchnell]

I'm sure you will catch up fast. That just makes it more interesting for everyone else racing with you guys.

You should take Dark up on his offer to give you rides or have him run with you in your cars. I think it took me like almost a year to get a ride in his racing car. But you probably weigh less than 200+lbs and may have a better chance... :lol

damn. I'll never get a ride. im a phatty. but weight watchers is helping :D Ok, Todd, schedule me a ride in 2006. I may below 2 bills by then.

[DarkGift]

You should take Dark up on his offer to give you rides or have him run with you in your cars. I think it took me like almost a year to get a ride in his racing car. But you probably weigh less than 200+lbs and may have a better chance... :lol

Common Uli, you know it took so long because we ran in the same class and our numbers are close (you run in class and numeric order normally, the grid person was a bit more lax on Sunday), so there was no way to get you in the car.

BTW here's a in-car vid from Wendover....courses can be much more open and fast since there are not light poles and curbs.

Wendover 3rd Gear (http://www.cs.utah.edu/~tag/autox/movies/URSCCA_Divisional_2000.wmv)

And yes Keith, you need to get the dang 332is out!

[Makr]

Cool vid.

I will come out on the 24th weekend.

I really need to finish the landspeed bike, because I see way too much time spent autoxing this summer.

[Uli]

I know Dark, I was just joking. :lol I appreciate your help. :buttrock

I'm looking into getting a G-Cube from GEEZ!. I'm not sure if there is an option to compare files, like comparing your run with my run for example, analyzing where and how bad I was slacking.

I wish I would be as fast as you so people are waiting in line to get a ride. :D

[chmdrm]

So what days is everyone going?

Sat, Sun, or Both?

Sun might be better for me as I think I will be racing at RMR friday night, so might want to get something done over the weekend other then racing.

Or not.

[Makr]

I say not.

[chmdrm]

So Friday night at RMR

Sat and Sun in Wendover


Done.

[Makr]

I will bring the bike to RMR. The M3 to wendover. Maybe we should think about getting a room there.


I need race tires for the M3..................................oh wait, i dont have a job.

[chmdrm]

Jobs are over rated.

Room sounds like plan. Waiting on if Tami will join us. Do we need to book ahead?

[Makr]

Booked.

[chmdrm]

As above

[Jedi801]

I hope to be out at the next E-Center Event and will hopefully kick all your asses... well except for todd and maybe Uli.

[chmdrm]

With snow tires?

[bradb1us]

So Friday night at RMR

Sat and Sun in Wendover


Done.


Can anybody go drag race at RMR on Friday (is it this coming Friday)?

[chmdrm]

Yes, April 22nd.

Street legal, bracket racing. http://www.rmrracing.com

[Jedi801]

No Geoff. The Falkens will be on.

Is the DSM ready?

[chmdrm]

DSM is getting close. Turbo is at Swain now.

Most of the electrical is done. Need some 1/4 pannels and paint.

[Jedi801]

paint? why? it just adds weight. ;)

[Uli]

I hope to be out at the next E-Center Event and will hopefully kick all your asses... well except for todd and maybe Uli.I won't feel so bad when you not just beat me but also Keith. That will be interesting to watch. :evil2

[Jedi801]

yeah if Keiths car is there I won't stand a chance. I may not even race in SM though since I am running stock boost now.

[GSBMW325is]

And yes Keith, you need to get the dang 332is out!

UPS delivered a 3 Day Select pkg today. Shipped Monday, so one day early! :buttrock :eek: They must know I work there or something... :) :shifty

Part 1 (of 2) of the necessary equipment is here. We'll see if the chip tuner comes through in time for Wendover... :confused

Still won't have car where I want it, though. :(

[GSBMW325is]

yeah if Keiths car is there I won't stand a chance. I may not even race in SM though since I am running stock boost now.

Even if its not, I've got some confidence in Eric's GTi now (he'll probably let me co-drive it if needed). It should be much better with his new wheels/tires. Hoosier daddy? :devillook

Or maybe Uli will offer a co-drive? I'd loan him a wheel/tire setup that would be a bit faster than his current shoes.

Run SM, its the best class by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Uli]

Even if its not, I've got some confidence in Eric's GTi now (he'll probably let me co-drive it if needed). It should be much better with his new wheels/tires. Hoosier daddy? :devillook

Or maybe Uli will offer a co-drive? I'd loan him a wheel/tire setup that would be a bit faster than his current shoes.

Run SM, its the best class by far!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I'm always happy to get a lesson in my car. So, yes, I'm planning to be at Wendover for the Sunday race and you are more than welcome to hopp right in. You just need to let me know by Friday if you are interested. But I won't eat up your tires. My old Victoracers will do just fine for now. However, I won't stop you if you want to throw them on to be more competitive.

[GSBMW325is]

I'm always happy to get a lesson in my car. So, yes, I'm planning to be at Wendover for the Sunday race and you are more than welcome to hopp right in. You just need to let me know by Friday if you are interested. But I won't eat up your tires. My old Victoracers will do just fine for now. However, I won't stop you if you want to throw them on to be more competitive.

Actually, I'm trying to burn up the V700's! Got Hoosiers waiting in the wings, and it looks like the budget will open up later this year for V710's or fresh hoosiers! :redspot

This Friday or next Friday? Won't hear back from the chip guy until next week...

[YLOJAKT]

love the video. Glad you guys had a good time. :eyecrazy

[Uli]

Actually, I'm trying to burn up the V700's! Got Hoosiers waiting in the wings, and it looks like the budget will open up later this year for V710's or fresh hoosiers! :redspot

This Friday or next Friday? Won't hear back from the chip guy until next week...Let me know when you know. There may be others that need a co-drive. :)

[gtiguy]

Was the vid in slow mo every time the pcar came on? Who was driving that thing anyway? It sure looked faster from inside the windshield. :)

I'm driving with the porsche club this weekend, maybe someone there can teach me how to drive my car. Remember to count me in for the Evloution school Uli.

It was a good time and thanks for the video.

[///Molloy]

Was the vid in slow mo every time the pcar came on? Who was driving that thing anyway? It sure looked faster from inside the windshield. :)

I'm driving with the porsche club this weekend, maybe someone there can teach me how to drive my car. Remember to count me in for the Evloution school Uli.

It was a good time and thanks for the video.

Thats funny cause I was thinking the same but was affraid to say it.
The video looks like you guys are driving slow as shit. But I'm sure in real life you were movin! what gives??

[chmdrm]

Video is real time. I think it has to do with trying to do something at 40mph that you would normally do at 10mph cause it sure feels faster when you're doing it.

With 4.10 gears I never got to the very top of 2nd even on the longer straights. I think Johnny tried going to 3rd once but found it slowed him down.

All of us were going fast enough to have the tires screaming, hell I even plowed right through a cone at the exit of a corner on my last run because I couldn't get the nose planted.

You need to come play, so much fun.

[DarkGift]

I hit my rev limiter on the back east to west straight every run after the 1st. That should be around 64 in my car. Doesn't sound that fast, but try running up your driveway at 60+ mph and parking in the garage as the door is coming down and you kinda get an idea of what autox is like.

[chmdrm]

I was not looking down at the gauges but I don't think I was going that fast.

Best guess by the motor sound is 5 to 6 grand in 2nd at the end of the straight which is closer to 55 mph :(

This might also explain the differnece in out times.

[Cameron Hauck]

try running up your driveway at 60+ mph and parking in the garage as the door is coming down and you kinda get an idea of what autox is like.

I do that sometimes, but my mom yells at me.

[chasmanbmwfan]

I do that sometimes, but my mom yells at me.

Touche.

[adams]

I was not looking down at the gauges but I don't think I was going that fast.

Best guess by the motor sound is 5 to 6 grand in 2nd at the end of the straight which is closer to 55 mph :(

This might also explain the differnece in out times.

i remember when i was racin my 318 i never shifted out if 2nd gear, it got close to redline (like 59 mph)

[Cameron Hauck]

Touche.

I might go to your house and do that, I saw you son driving out one day and your drive way is like a race track.

[chasmanbmwfan]

We have a sweet circular track, complete with a full pit area.

[adams]

We have a sweet circular track, complete with a full pit area.

.02 miles long??

[chmdrm]

We have a sweet circular track, complete with a full pit area.

Have you ever thought of adopting an older blond son?

[chasmanbmwfan]

Come to think of it, we could use a good pit boss who is also handy with a sound board.

[chmdrm]

DAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I think my allowance is late. Can I borrow your car?

[Makr]

Shut up Geoff.


Im clean, and nice, and will do the dishes. :)

[DarkGift]

BTW, looks like Sunday will be a "Mock ProSolo" which means you'll run side-by-side on two mirrored courses. Not wheel-to-wheel, one person is on the left course and one on the right, then you flip. Combine to the two times and whoever has the lowesest best left time + lowest right time wins. (Note our T&S software doesn't support this, so it should be "interesting" to make it work. It does support two day events, so we'll have to use day 2 for one of the courses.)

Saturday should be a traditional day with a larger course, but is not a points event.

[chmdrm]

Makr and I will be there both days. Trying to talk others into coming.

The ProSolo thing sounds fun and closer to my drag racing roots but what I need more then anything is just seat time so any course will work for me.

I'm going out now to practive driving up my driveway at 60 with the door coming down.

[Makr]

Move the DSM first.

[DarkGift]

The ProSolo thing sounds fun and closer to my drag racing roots but what I need more then anything is just seat time so any course will work for me.

The real Pro will be here in May and has Xmas tree lights, your reaction time counts etc. First one to hit a perfect .500 wins money, something like $100.
The "drag" part of it is only a couple 100 feet or so, enough to get into 2nd gear and hit the course.

It is a National event and requires SCCA membership however.

[adams]

The real Pro will be here in May and has Xmas tree lights, your reaction time counts etc. First one to hit a perfect .500 wins money, something like $100.
The "drag" part of it is only a couple 100 feet or so, enough to get into 2nd gear and hit the course.

It is a National event and requires SCCA membership however.

that sounds sweet :buttrock

[chmdrm]

I have my membership forum printed out and filled in. Going to post office today.

A .500 light is easier then the driving part for me ... well maybe not as I've never hit one. Done 2 x .499s however.

About as close to perfect as you can get and still suck.

[Uli]

Just showing my complete racing ignorance: What is the deal with the 0.500? What does this messaure and why is exactly 0.5 better than 0.4 or 0.6? :help

[chmdrm]

On most Sportsman trees .500 is a perfect light. .499 is a red light and you lose.

If I remember right the lights are .500 apart as they count down and the timer starts as it turns off the last yellow and turns on the green. Break the beams sooner then .500 after the last yellow and you are DQ'd for a false start and the red light comes on and not the green.

In the real world leave on the last yellow, if you see the green you lost. The time it takes for your foot to react to your brain, and the car to move once the pedel is planted most times is more then .500 seconds. A good light is .550 and under.

In thousands of 1/4 mile runs over the years, I've never had a .500 light. Two .499s but the best non red light I've had is a .510. In the groove I can do .540s all day.

[GSBMW325is]

Just FYI: Our Mock Prosolo won't have the xmas tree lights. It will be some guy standing there using flags or arms to signal the start! Of course, your time won't start until you trip the timing beams and red lights are not an issue (you could technically sit at the line all day after the guy waved the flag, and still beat the other side).

[Uli]

Just FYI: Our Mock Prosolo won't have the xmas tree lights. It will be some guy standing there using flags or arms to signal the start! Of course, your time won't start until you trip the timing beams and red lights are not an issue (you could technically sit at the line all day after the guy waved the flag, and still beat the other side).
Why doesn't the flag (or any other viable start signal) start the time instead? Still not perfect, but probably closer to the ProSolo spirit I would think.

[Antwerp]

How do AWD fall into these events? Are they allowed? Are they classified Differently?
I think I'd like to get my WRX up in there...

[Uli]

How do AWD fall into these events? Are they allowed? Are they classified Differently?
I think I'd like to get my WRX up in there...
If you are talking Solo 2, a stock WRX STI is classed in AS according to the SCCA online rulebook: http://www.scca.com/Solo/Index.asp?IdS=006BAB-49ECBF0&x=050|070&~=
Depending on your modifications, it may end up in SM.

[Antwerp]

Hmmmm.... Well this is not a STi, just the regular WRX, but it does have some mods...
I'll have to look into this. Then I can show up to cone-bash. ;)

Thanks for the link. Dayum. 13mb for the rules! This is going to take a while to read! :eek:

[chmdrm]

And why not run the M?

[Antwerp]

She's a heavy bitch with stock everything.
I think I'll be much more effective in the Suby.