times for 328is

[ridebmw]

well i was surprised then when i searched for a thread talking about 0-60 times that they were non existing...i also might suck at searching. But anyway i was wondering what the 0-60 on an e36 328is was. I have read 6.2 or 6.3 on some site but thats like the same as the new 330ci which is hard to believe and is rather fast for a car with 193 hp. My friend wont believe me that it is even in the 6's which i no it is, so anyway what is it and if you know how about the 328i, 325i,325is, and 318s and on and on, basically any and all e36 models. thanks

[ridebmw]

come on guys i thought this would be rather interesting someone else has got to be curious

[olazabal]

Pretty sure its 6.2 for the 328, but im not sure about the 330, sorry

[cybersnork47]

i did 6.45s last week. my car is a lightly modded 323, so you should be probably a little quicker than that, that is to say if you have manual transmission.

[ridebmw]

does the i vs is really make that big of a difference with the two extra doors. How did you time the 6.4 on your 323?

[spi]

I know the 325's are in the mid 7's. Don't know if a stock 328 can break 6. If it's a auto, it's going to be mid 8.

[HOOJ]

6.2 is correct for sport package... 6.4 for standard. www.car-stats.com ... www.carfolio.com

[jesd325is]

i know my manual has all the times listed for performance, i would check your manual in the back for the numbers.

[cybersnork47]

How did you time the 6.4 on your 323?

gtech......not too accurate with hp/tq, but 0-60 and 1/4ml times are right on.

[LinearX]

With a LSD optioned, TCS disabled and sport package rubber, a stocker can get very close to 6s in spring weather. In hotter weather it's probably a smidge slower, closer to 6.5. The way I see most people launch, they're lucky to get it under 7s.

[bogdan]

96 328is 5spd. Stock.

I did a 14.9 @ 94 mph on a 2.4 60ft.

There is definately room for improvement tho.

[DirtOval]

i did 6.45s last week. my car is a lightly modded 323, so you should be probably a little quicker than that, that is to say if you have manual transmission.
What mods do you have to get those numbers?

[BuddaLun]

i did 6.45s last week. my car is a lightly modded 323, so you should be probably a little quicker than that, that is to say if you have manual transmission.
Whats mods do you have?? A stock 323is does 0-60 a little over 7 seconds.

I wonder what the 0-60 would be like on an otherwise stock 5 speed 323is w/ just a 3.23 LSD and M3 staggered wheels?? Hmmmm....

[cybersnork47]

my engine mods are: cai, m50 manifold, shark injector, fan delete, and a crappy ass custom track pipe.(replacing next week with m3 midsection and muffler). btw i ran a 14.9 in the 1/4, but it could be faster if i could spin my wheels, but the g-tech can't measure properly with vibration and wheel hop.

[smiley6]

Its about 6.2 stock for the 328is and 325i is about 7.1

[GG///M3]

328 can make some really good power when done right, check out this thread and tell me what you think this cars 1/4 mile times, or 0-60 times would be.. http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=308692&page=4 :)

[BuddaLun]

cyber,

Does the M50 work well on the 323is M52 w/ just the shark injector?? O do you still find a low end tq loss that could be better. I am going to talk to Jim about this.... I have been speculateing for along time and i need some damn answers!! Us 323 guys need to CALLABORATE son!

[ridebmw]

what do u think the best mods would be to get my 328is under 6 seconds

[torquey]

what do u think the best mods would be to get my 328is under 6 seconds
A lower ratio rear differential (3.23-3.38)
Lightweight Flywheel OR Crank Pulley
M50 Intake manifold
Any kinda weight reduction

.. those should get you very close to that target.

[96328is]

the "is" does not have anything to do with the sport package as far as I know... it just means that it's a coupe. Although, I do have a 328is with the sport package...

[jefiddler]

according to my Gtech unit I'm at about 5.5 0-60, my mods are listed below. For me my LSD was the biggest gain followed by the cams :alright

[cybersnork47]

cyber,

Does the M50 work well on the 323is M52 w/ just the shark injector?? O do you still find a low end tq loss that could be better. I am going to talk to Jim about this.... I have been speculateing for along time and i need some damn answers!! Us 323 guys need to CALLABORATE son!

yes, imo i think its the best mod you can do to a 323, and i didn't notice any dips or loss in torque on my dyno.

[hwl328is]

im around 5.8 seconds to 60...and actually there was an extensive write up on how the gtech timers are accurate. i was really skeptical but ive made a turn around and apparently they are extremely accurate with times. just my .02 :buttrock

[toopercentmlk]

I know the 325's are in the mid 7's. Don't know if a stock 328 can break 6. If it's a auto, it's going to be mid 8.
my auto gets low 7s with the torque break launch technique using various stop watches.
mods(intake exhaust suspention).

[Teuton]

yes, imo i think its the best mod you can do to a 323, and i didn't notice any dips or loss in torque on my dyno.


Please post dyno plots if you have them (prefferably before and after). I am very interested in doing the M50 Manifold swap but have been hesitant with out software to minimize low and Midrange torque loss. I want to have a bit more top end but am not really looking to sacrifice midrange due to autocross.

PS- I have done a 15.0 at ~91-92mph with a full tank of gas, subs and spare in the car. I believe I can do better (with less gas). We'll see in the spring where I'll be going up against a stock 323is.

Mod list (engine/straightline performance):
ECIS intake
Dinan Stage III chip
Throttlebody
Eisenmann exhaust
3.15 LSD

Pete

[cybersnork47]

i was going to get my car dyno tested this weekend but i have a lack funds and its 75 miles away. maybe next payday. :( .....but today i reconnected my rear o2 sensor(disconnected for old track pipe) and got 5% increase in gas m.p.g. and ran a 6.20 from 0-60 which is .13 seconds faster than without it. :redspot that's = to a stock 328 and i even had a full tank of gas and my heavy ass 18's.
i have an old dyno graph saved but its crap. it was dyno tested at some guys house that had a dyno built into his driveway. :rolleyes he had no equipment for a/f, no fan, and probably didn't have it calibrated right(dyno looked like it was 20 years old)anyways it said i only put down 152hp and 151tq. it might be true, but i highly doubt it...i can't wait to get a real dyno done so i can go back and shove it in his face.

[Teuton]

i was going to get my car dyno tested this weekend but i have a lack funds and its 75 miles away. maybe next payday. :( .....but today i reconnected my rear o2 sensor(disconnected for old track pipe) and got 5% increase in gas m.p.g. and ran a 6.20 from 0-60 which is .13 seconds faster than without it. :redspot that's = to a stock 328 and i even had a full tank of gas and my heavy ass 18's.
i have an old dyno graph saved but its crap. it was dyno tested at some guys house that had a dyno built into his driveway. :rolleyes he had no equipment for a/f, no fan, and probably didn't have it calibrated right(dyno looked like it was 20 years old)anyways it said i only put down 152hp and 151tq. it might be true, but i highly doubt it...i can't wait to get a real dyno done so i can go back and shove it in his face.


Your HP/Tq ratings seem a little bit low as I dyno'd at 150/16x before I did the engine mods to my car (this was on a mustang). I'm curious when you get them done. Please include details ie ambient temp, mileage on car and dyno type (ie. Mustand, Dynopack etc...).

Thanks in advance,

Pete

[bimmer328is]

according to my Gtech unit I'm at about 5.5 0-60, my mods are listed below. For me my LSD was the biggest gain followed by the cams :alright
dang thats pretty good, when i gteched mine posted a 5.9 0-60 but i was on really crappy tires and on a bad road, i havnt done it recently though but i really need too cause now i have much better tires and lighter wheels... :)

[cybersnork47]

Your HP/Tq ratings seem a little bit low as I dyno'd at 150/16x before I did the engine mods to my car (this was on a mustang). I'm curious when you get them done. Please include details ie ambient temp, mileage on car and dyno type (ie. Mustand, Dynopack etc...).

Thanks in advance,

Pete


yah, i know they're low, i don't think it was done right, cuz i heard of stock 323 engine dynoing around155-160hp. and if a stock engine does 0-60 in 7.1, and i can do it in 6.20 with a full tank of gas and heavy 18" :confused ....i just found out that they're is going to be a dyno day tomorrow in seattle, so i might go and get a properly tested one.

[Jed]

Your HP/Tq ratings seem a little bit low as I dyno'd at 150/16x before I did the engine mods to my car (this was on a mustang).

????

You had your intake and exhaust on there... The only thing you did after that was Dinan ECU flash and add the TB after that...

[BuddaLun]

yes, imo i think its the best mod you can do to a 323, and i didn't notice any dips or loss in torque on my dyno.
NICE!! What i wanted to hear. Got some Dynos for me?? PLEASE??? Us 323 huys should help each other out!!!

[Teuton]

????

You had your intake and exhaust on there... The only thing you did after that was Dinan ECU flash and add the TB after that...


Oops, that was with the Intake and exhaust. I don't think the exhaust did much considering I didn't use the connecting pipes.

Pete

[cybersnork47]

NICE!! What i wanted to hear. Got some Dynos for me?? PLEASE??? Us 323 huys should help each other out!!!

i still shopping around for a dyno this weekend, there is a place in seattle having a dyno day tomorrow for only $40 for three pulls, but right now im 250 miles away. i know what you mean about sticking together, its like bmw made our cars specifically to put us at a disadvantage.

[pezking4]

When I took my car (328i 5 speed) to the track I had the sport package wheels on and ASC removed. Based on my 1/8 mile time and trap, I ran a 0-60mph time of 6.13 seconds. The converion is not exact, but its accurate give or take tenth.. so there's something to go by.

[BuddaLun]

Pete,

You and I need to do the m3/328 cat with an M3 exhaust. That will definatley give us 323 guys a decent power boost because BMW used the damn 4cyl exhaust system to choke power.

[BuddaLun]

i know what you mean about sticking together, its like bmw made our cars specifically to put us at a disadvantage.

Kinda true, but it gives us a lot of room for improvement! See my above post.

[Teuton]

Pete,

You and I need to do the m3/328 cat with an M3 exhaust. That will definatley give us 323 guys a decent power boost because BMW used the damn 4cyl exhaust system to choke power.


Right now I'm debating on getting the M50 intake manifold and the dual cats. I'm hoping that will give me some more go but, I'm concerned about the torque loss. That and where to get tuning.

Pete

[torquey]

hehe... this thread has quickly become "Times for 323is". Yeah you guys definitely got the shaft from BMW, when it comes to power output. What's the highest an E36 323 has put down w/ mods?

I'll be doing my M50 manifold install by next weekend... let's see what that does for my numbers :evil2

[ridebmw]

so from this im getting that 328is manual is about the same as a auto m3.

[BuddaLun]

Right now I'm debating on getting the M50 intake manifold and the dual cats. I'm hoping that will give me some more go but, I'm concerned about the torque loss. That and where to get tuning.

Pete
DO IT!! I am assuming about a 20-30 WHP gain w/ these additions along with software. I think that with the Conforti shark injector, the tq loss will very small down low. Mid range should prolly still stay the same too. The top will SCREAM though. I am going this route VERY soon.

[BuddaLun]

so from this im getting that 328is manual is about the same as a auto m3.
From a dig the 5 speed 328 will have advatage, but the 3.2 will own you on the FWY. (We're talking stock cars here)