View Full Version : Getting The 6 Back on the Road.
Kinetik
03-15-2019, 02:05 PM
I've owned this car since 2012. And I've put maybe 100 Miles on it. it's been a super slow process but each year has been a little closer to actually getting it to become a usable car.
-- Decided To make this thread to help motivate me toward finishing the odds and ends it needs to become reliable once again.
I drove it last year about 100 Miles to Euro Hanger First and Only Car show I've ever been to with it. Unfortunately on the way home it started acting like it was running out of fuel. Well, it was :rolleyes the fuel system is totally fouled from way to many years of sitting in the garage. She's been sitting another 8 months since then.
The Frozen North Is finally starting to thaw out and this year I intend to drive this car as much as I can.
Well, Below are some fun images while I work on getting the fuel tank cleaned up.
I decided to use POR 15 Fuel Seal kit.
Last picture is what the car looked like when i got her in 2012
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Tank has now been degressed.
metal Etch is next
Then Sealer
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TowJamma
03-15-2019, 08:10 PM
Nice, last year of production. Everyone loves schwarz.
Do it, do it!
Kinetik
03-15-2019, 10:48 PM
it's a 6/87
Kinetik
03-17-2019, 12:22 AM
Accomplished some more small tasks on the 6 Tonight while i wait for the Seal Kit to cure in the fuel tank.
-Fixed the dome light in the trunk someone decided instead of unplugging it cutting it made more sense. :confused
- Replaced all the Vent Hose with New Hose. In the trunk. Little bit of dish soap made it all go way easier.
I used 1/4Inch Fuel Hoes Since it's not High Pressure and bmw wants too much for there 6mm hose.
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Kinetik
03-17-2019, 12:26 AM
I also replaced my broken center console with a new "used" one. Unfortunately this one doesn't have memory seat so i just hid the wiring for it under the cover.
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Kinetik
03-17-2019, 12:44 AM
So far the tank cleaning process is going great. way better then spending 800 on a new one!
degreaseing and Metal Etching left a bunch of crud in the tank. So, I used a piece of Pex tubing and taped it to my vacuum to clean the inside of the tank .
Sealer Pored in nicely. can't wait till all the new parts come in the mail.
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Nullified
03-17-2019, 05:16 AM
That is a creative way to empty the tank, well done!
Do you rotate the tank until the sealant has dried?
Kinetik
03-17-2019, 09:11 AM
That is a creative way to empty the tank, well done!
Do you rotate the tank until the sealant has dried?
The Stuff is actually surprisingly thin. I just slowly rolled the tank up side down and around until all surfaces had a nice coating on it. I then used the petcock on the bottom of the tank to drain the excess into a 5 gallon Home Depot bucket. They State it needs 96 hours to fully cure but after about an hour it was moving pretty slowly in the tank.
Kinetik
03-17-2019, 10:42 PM
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Today didn't get too much done.
Vacuumed the carpets, Fixed the seat belt Tension and ordered some goodies online.
Decided to just throw the back half of the exhaust away.
I want to order Ireland Engineering Headers but they are out of stock current.
So, guess my car is going to sound pretty bad for now.
Pictures attached of today's adventures.
e24mpwr
03-17-2019, 11:06 PM
That's a great interior - one of my favorites, especially on a black car.
Kinetik
03-17-2019, 11:11 PM
That's a great interior - one of my favorites, especially on a black car.
The original interior was dove grey I HATED It. I actually got this interior from a rusty car in North Carolina an 85 I never used my rear AC anyways.. lol so The swap happend last year.
TowJamma
03-17-2019, 11:54 PM
it's a 6/87
Oops, I was reading the my cars section.
"Join Date Aug 2012
Location Metro Detroit
My Cars 89, 635csi,5spd / 2001 540i"
It's still a great looking car. It'll be worth all the effort.
Nice looking fin on that Ford(?).
Kinetik
03-18-2019, 01:05 AM
Oops, I was reading the my cars section.
"Join Date Aug 2012
Location Metro Detroit
My Cars 89, 635csi,5spd / 2001 540i"
It's still a great looking car. It'll be worth all the effort.
Nice looking fin on that Ford(?).
I should update this!
I've had more then a few 6's this is just the one that stole my heart.
As for the Fin back there yeah.. you've got a good eye. It's a 1963 Ford Fairlane.
My family has a long history with the blue oval. I love the car it's a maybarry cop car replica.
Here in Detroit it's a requirement to own some american iron.
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Kinetik
03-18-2019, 08:58 PM
Small Progress today.
Fixed a bolt that had been stripped my seat had only been mounted with 3 bolts for the longest time.
Felt good to fix that problem.
tap and die from m10 x1.5 to m12x1.5
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slownrusty
03-19-2019, 08:02 AM
Wow..sexy E24, love it (and those AC Schnitzers), at first I thought it was a M6 from the grill badge.
I just bought the entire Ireland Engineering headers and cat back, I'm crazy about the massive muffler they used on the catback just before the tailpipes, and thinking about sending it back and building my own or removing theirs and dropping in a smaller, lighter and possibly better sounding Magnaflow...TBD.
Like you my 6 is in pieces, I hope to have it running again in two weeks.
Kinetik
03-19-2019, 11:21 AM
Wow..sexy E24, love it (and those AC Schnitzers), at first I thought it was a M6 from the grill badge.
I just bought the entire Ireland Engineering headers and cat back, I'm crazy about the massive muffler they used on the catback just before the tailpipes, and thinking about sending it back and building my own or removing theirs and dropping in a smaller, lighter and possibly better sounding Magnaflow...TBD.
Like you my 6 is in pieces, I hope to have it running again in two weeks.
The only reason that grill badge is still on there is because it's super glued.. and I don't want to buy a new grill.
I called up Ireland Engineering and they are out of stock of their headers. Unless you know of another location to get them i'd love to order them.
I just needed to make this thread to motivate myself to finish it. Been too many years of just sitting around. This weekend should be a lot of fun i ordered a crap ton of parts.
e24mpwr
03-19-2019, 07:07 PM
I just needed to make this thread to motivate myself to finish it.
I think this is a great thread - love to see the progress!
Kinetik
03-19-2019, 09:21 PM
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Today i decided to fix the turn signal stalk using one out of a 83 7 series I have in the back yard.
Headlights and turn signals were foobar'd and didn't work correctly.
so, replacement was needed.
it's almost back together but i started to strip out the bolt hole for the air bag... will have to clean the threads up don't even know how i did it.
Kinetik
03-19-2019, 09:28 PM
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More pictures
Kinetik
03-20-2019, 08:52 PM
I can't even describe what a difference this made to my ability to shut the doors in my car..
I wish i had know about this bumper years ago
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e24mpwr
03-21-2019, 12:17 PM
I can't even describe what a difference this made to my ability to shut the doors in my car..
I wish i had know about this bumper years ago
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:rofl It's amazing
Nullified
03-21-2019, 01:53 PM
My car also needs new hinges as the door sags, yours doesn't have this at all?
Kinetik
03-21-2019, 03:24 PM
My car also needs new hinges as the door sags, yours doesn't have this at all?
Honestly, I want to say no, but door does creak really bad when i open it. Was going to hit it with some white lithum grease but it doesn't seem to sag.
Also, great news today. spent me 1100 on New Ireland Engineering headers and Cat Back System I'm super excited. I gave them another call and they "magically" found one buried on the shelf.
Nullified
03-21-2019, 03:46 PM
Post pics of the zorst when they arrive!
roger hanley
03-21-2019, 04:29 PM
Melvin, Before changing out the hinges check the pins and door brake 41511875865. The alignment of the doors are done where the hinge mounts on the door, not the hinge itself or where it mounts on the A column. Also replace the rubber piece 51211823487 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part?id=5372-EUR-06-1982-E24-BMW-635CSi&mg=41&sg=40&diagId=41_0554&q=51211823487) on the B column. Roger
e24mpwr
03-21-2019, 05:42 PM
Melvin, Before changing out the hinges check the pins and door brake 41511875865. The alignment of the doors are done where the hinge mounts on the door, not the hinge itself or where it mounts on the A column. Also replace the rubber piece 51211823487 (http://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/part?id=5372-EUR-06-1982-E24-BMW-635CSi&mg=41&sg=40&diagId=41_0554&q=51211823487) on the B column. Roger
Hmmmm...
Mine has a bit of sag - good info!
Bert Poliakoff
03-21-2019, 09:18 PM
Door sagging may just be an adjustment. If hinges are worn, take them to a machine shop and have them re drilled and new pins fitted and reamed to size. I had mine done and total cost was less than the cost of one new hinge.
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Nullified
03-22-2019, 11:53 AM
Thanks Roger, I have a feeling Walloth&Nesh will send me a cake in a while. I think I'll start ordering stuff in a years time as the bodywork will need to be finished first.
Now let's focus on Kinetik's work.
Kinetik
03-22-2019, 01:49 PM
Thanks Roger, I have a feeling Walloth&Nesh will send me a cake in a while. I think I'll start ordering stuff in a years time as the bodywork will need to be finished first.
Now let's focus on Kinetik's work.
Tonight, should be fun.
New Fuel Pump, Lines, Injectors going on tonight. and reinstall the old tank.
Nullified
03-22-2019, 06:00 PM
The thing I like about your topic is that you are fast, progress just about every day. I my project had this speed my car would be ready pretty fast!
Kinetik
03-22-2019, 09:44 PM
The thing I like about your topic is that you are fast, progress just about every day. I my project had this speed my car would be ready pretty fast!
Haha, I was pretty serious about the topic in the fact i couldn't stand this car's beeen sitting so long.
So, everything I needed to complete the job showed up except the New Fuel Injectors.
So I said screw it and decided to get the tank put back in and install the new pump anyways.
Things Completed
- new Inline pump
- new Fuel Filter
- New Shitty Hose Clamps I should have kept the BMW ones. " They blew off when i first started the car " So I don't really trust them atm.
- New Intank Pump
- New Evap Lines
- New Fuel Lines 12mm feed 5/16(7.9)mm Fuel Injection Hose and 6mm Evap
- New Fuel Cap
- New Rubbber Grommet around fuel filler.
-- End Result.. The car runs FANTASTIC. even with out the new fuel injectors I couldn't believe how much pep the car has.
I feel like it gained 100 HP compared to the car I used to own. I pulled up to the gas station put some 89 in and couldn't believe how dirty she is looks like a true barn find :(
Only bad thing with out an exhaust this car sounds SOOO loud. I thought i was going to get the cops called to my driveway.
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Kinetik
03-24-2019, 09:14 PM
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Changed some more fuel lines washed the car.
And Put in some new Fuel Injectors.
e24mpwr
03-25-2019, 11:57 AM
Looking good!
I'm getting ready to do the in-tank pump too...
vonhummel
03-25-2019, 12:28 PM
In reinstalling your steering wheel did the SRS light go out? i replaced my wheel on my 88' M6 and the light won't go out.
Thanks and great to see the work to get it back on the road.
Nullified
03-25-2019, 12:43 PM
Looks excellent!
Kinetik
03-25-2019, 01:40 PM
In reinstalling your steering wheel did the SRS light go out? i replaced my wheel on my 88' M6 and the light won't go out.
Thanks and great to see the work to get it back on the road.
So, my SRS light is on and I plan to keep it on. last year I hit a small bump in the road and the airbag blew up in my face. was not a fun experience. I bought another air bag and just keep it unplugged. 30 year old air bag system not the most reliable.
vonhummel
03-25-2019, 01:44 PM
Thank you, I bet that was quite an experience. They have incredible force. I have thought of replacing the stock wheel with a momo or Nardi. Maybe the time to do so and deal with the light.
Thanks again and congratulations on the progress.
e24mpwr
03-25-2019, 09:26 PM
So, my SRS light is on and I plan to keep it on. last year I hit a small bump in the road and the airbag blew up in my face. was not a fun experience. I bought another air bag and just keep it unplugged. 30 year old air bag system not the most reliable.
My buddy who worked at a dealership would put an airbag steering wheel on the ground face-down and set it off remotely (ran wires to it) - it was extremely impressive to see how high that thing went, and sobering to realize all that force was heading toward your face... I guess better that than nothing in a crash, but it was the only thing I about my E30 and E36 I don't miss...
slownrusty
03-28-2019, 08:04 AM
Car looks awesome Kinetic...I'm riught behind you on my "to-do" list! Thanks for the motivation.
Kinetik
03-28-2019, 09:13 PM
Things i've been up to.
installed new delrin gargistic gas pedal bushings. when I was fixing my turn signal stalk i noticed they were shot.
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Made actually a big difference in how the gas pedal feels it's much more responsive and firm.
So, my new door molding trim came in from California well.. used trim. it was all sun burnt and beat up so i decided to clean it up by wetsanding it i've done a few pieces but i'm not finished yet here is the result so far.
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Also my hvac panel was broken and a mess. I got another one but it also came broken.. so that was a waste of 100 bucks... they supposedly sending me "good sliders"
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Still waiting on new exhaust It's been shipped and on the way..!!!
Kinetik
03-28-2019, 09:24 PM
Car looks awesome Kinetic...I'm riught behind you on my "to-do" list! Thanks for the motivation.
get it done! spring is here!
slownrusty
03-29-2019, 08:03 AM
get it done! spring is here!
Yes sir! Going to make a decent dent on it this weekend.
Kinetik
04-01-2019, 02:40 AM
So, I felt like playing with some 3d modeling.
I need new clips for the car ECS sell them for 3 bucks a piece
Well, i have this fun toy called a 3d printer
So i got my caliper out and whipped up my own copy.
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printing batch tonight!
Exhaust show up tomorrow I'm excited!!.
e24mpwr
04-01-2019, 07:43 AM
Will be interesting to see how the clips work out!
slownrusty
04-01-2019, 07:58 AM
What does that clip support / hold in place?
de Witt
04-01-2019, 10:58 AM
So, I felt like playing with some 3d modeling.
I need new clips for the car ECS sell them for 3 bucks a piece
Well, i have this fun toy called a 3d printer
So i got my caliper out and whipped up my own copy.
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my 3d model
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printing batch tonight!
Exhaust show up tomorrow I'm excited!!.
$3? Still reasonable enough IMHO to shell out for however many are needed, but the 3d printer will be useful when those parts go to $60/ea like this one, which is what prompted me to get a 3d printer.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/headlight-bracket-twist-lock-priced-each/51711857441/
Kinetik
04-01-2019, 12:04 PM
$3? Still reasonable enough IMHO to shell out for however many are needed, but the 3d printer will be useful when those parts go to $60/ea like this one, which is what prompted me to get a 3d printer.
https://www.ecstuning.com/b-genuine-bmw-parts/headlight-bracket-twist-lock-priced-each/51711857441/
Hey, just trying to give my self an excuse to use it!.
But, that wouldn't be a bad piece to replicate thankfully mine are not broken.
de Witt
04-01-2019, 04:30 PM
Hey, just trying to give my self an excuse to use it!.
But, that wouldn't be a bad piece to replicate thankfully mine are not broken.
Thats always good. What sort of filament are you going to use for the part? The original looks like nylon.
Kinetik
04-01-2019, 07:37 PM
Thats always good. What sort of filament are you going to use for the part? The original looks like nylon.
I've printed it in petg but i think i'm going to try abs instead.
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well the exhaust is here now i just have to patiently wait for my guy to become available to weld it all up...:(
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TowJamma
04-02-2019, 01:52 AM
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well the exhaust is here now i just have to patiently wait for my guy to become available to weld it all up...:(
Just Gorgeous.
Drooling
Nullified
04-02-2019, 11:51 AM
Is it made out of stainless steel?
Kinetik
04-02-2019, 02:02 PM
Is it made out of stainless steel?
yes!
Nullified
04-02-2019, 03:35 PM
Damn! Very nice. Be sure to make some high quality vids to capture the sound, it will be amazing!
slownrusty
04-04-2019, 07:27 AM
That's the same exhaust I recently bought from Ireland as well. I'm nit a huge fan of the massive rear muffler just before the tail pipes, so I am going to modify that last section and run a smaller more compact (lightweight Magnaflow) muffler and then fabricate the center piece where the cat resides. I spoke the owner of Ireland Engineering and he said that this exhaust will yield 15ish hp depending on if you run the cat or retain it.
Kinetik
04-04-2019, 11:08 AM
That's the same exhaust I recently bought from Ireland as well. I'm nit a huge fan of the massive rear muffler just before the tail pipes, so I am going to modify that last section and run a smaller more compact (lightweight Magnaflow) muffler and then fabricate the center piece where the cat resides. I spoke the owner of Ireland Engineering and he said that this exhaust will yield 15ish hp depending on if you run the cat or retain it.
here in the state of michigan we don't have emission inspections.
So, there won't be any of that emissions stuff between the engine and the tail pipe :)
carsnplanes
04-06-2019, 08:22 AM
I've printed it in petg but i think i'm going to try abs instead.
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well the exhaust is here now i just have to patiently wait for my guy to become available to weld it all up...:(
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Will you be putting the original type heat shield/gasket set with these headers? The plugs sit just above them and can cook the plug wires. My friend installed headers and used the gaskets without the shielding and can feel the intense heat rising.
slownrusty
04-07-2019, 08:52 AM
Not hi-jacking your thread Kinetic (I guess I should start my own thread and getting my car back on the road also).
Anyway when I spoke to the owner of Ireland Engineering he recommeded the Victor Reinz gaskets/heat shield as per my picture below (I also ceramic coated my headers to help), alternatively you can also buy spark plug wire "heat jackets" to protect them from cooking.
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Kinetik
04-07-2019, 12:45 PM
Will you be putting the original type heat shield/gasket set with these headers? The plugs sit just above them and can cook the plug wires. My friend installed headers and used the gaskets without the shielding and can feel the intense heat rising.
Not hi-jacking your thread Kinetic (I guess I should start my own thread and getting my car back on the road also).
Anyway when I spoke to the owner of Ireland Engineering he recommeded the Victor Reinz gaskets/heat shield as per my picture below (I also ceramic coated my headers to help), alternatively you can also buy spark plug wire "heat jackets" to protect them from cooking.
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Hey guys yes i purchased the old style heat shields as I didn't want to risk cooking my plugs/plug wires from the heat. Hopefully some time next week my car will go into the shop to get all welded up.
I've accomplished a bunch of stuff this weekend will post some pics later today.
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Unfortunately I slipped on some ATF on the floor yesterday and feeling pretty crappy today sore in places I didn't know I could be.
Anejo
04-09-2019, 06:42 AM
TowJamma, you took the words right outta my mouth! Gorgeous!
Kinetik
04-09-2019, 12:44 PM
TowJamma, you took the words right outta my mouth! Gorgeous!
haha.. well it's officaly Thursday it gets installed at Detroit Drift Co.
I'm Potentially buying another 6 this weekend.
1987 635csi also black ..
slownrusty
04-09-2019, 10:28 PM
Kinetik - I dropped my stock exhaust tonight (just came in from a long evening), everything came out without any surprises or issues. Did you verify that the Ireland Engineering headers fit without any issues at the firewall based on the geometry of them? I'll mock mine up tomorrow but thought I should ask you.
slownrusty
04-24-2019, 08:10 AM
Bumping this thread..how did your exhaust turn out? Pictures?
Kinetik
04-24-2019, 06:21 PM
Bumping this thread..how did your exhaust turn out? Pictures?
Funny you ask it just got finished today
Mike at Detroit Drift Co Did a bang up Job I can't wait to get it back in person.
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Kinetik
04-24-2019, 06:23 PM
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slownrusty
04-24-2019, 07:33 PM
Bravo!!! That looks awesome.
Kinetik
03-24-2020, 02:42 PM
Well, It's been sadly a year since I've made any updates to this post. Had some health issues with my noggin that required fixing before I could return to fixing my car. I'm a little more important. I had great momentum this time last year and. The car "ran" great but the suspension was just horrible. Even though I was down for the count I've been hording a collection of parts. And it's time to actually put them on.
Covid19 has given me some extra time so. I'm back at it.
Key issues to fix this spring.
Oil leaks.. So many of them
Entire Front & rear Suspension rework.
Cleaning.. getting rid of all the built up oil sludge.
New Pilot Sports AS3 + Old tires were from 2003 'yikes'.
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Construted my own engine brace to drop the subframe to do the oilpan and any other seal I can get at.
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Sub frame out oilpan next.
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