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BMWS1KRR
10-12-2016, 07:29 PM
Hello All...
I really could use some help with getting into my ECU so I can either 'viginize' it, or Just change the VIN in the least.
the problem mostly is my project is 2015 BMW S1000RR K46 S-Series Motorrad
So, I downloaded about every INPA I can find, spent money with MHH to get full versions they say, PM'ed people that say stop, you cant do it to Motorrad..
So I try here for the answer.
I have several versions of INPA and I see alot of E and F series cars listed. I found the INPA.ini that sets up the GUI with the text for all that. I can change it, but dont know what to point a new entry to.
The K46 from what I have researched is using K24 files. Then there is K01 also, but not sure what that is to.
I need that UIF from what I have read from INPA to get into WinKFP to access the ECU for the VIN change.
The ECU is Motronic with the Infintion MPU 1797. the files in ISTA/P it looks at is BMSX type files.
What started all this was I purchased a ECU, Switch, Key, and EWS module. Well, the key was broken in the crash and it would not read with ISTA/P it was so damaged. BMW dealer would not cut me a key off the VIN because I dont have a title in my name to just parts I purchased off eBay.
So, next I purchased another ECU, Switch, Key and EWS module. What I forgot with this one was that the ECU does not match my configuration of my S1000RR. I need to change the VIN in this new ECU so I can download the correct setup from ISTA/P .. I have already tried replace and code DME so maybe the one I put on there when it asked would just replace the VIN and parameters, but that did not work.
So, can someone help me get into this ECU to change the VIN?
NolliM3
10-14-2016, 10:28 AM
Why don't bring your parents to the dealer if they're the true owners? Common sense should tell you that ONLY BMW can do what you're wanting to do.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 01:42 AM
I did not say my parents were the owners of the motorcycle. it is a crashed motorcycle i purchased. The head of the key is broke up in the crash. I purchased yet another key, switch, and EWS module to try to marry with the ECU i need to use, but ISTA/P will not do this task.
The dealer cannot do anything because the techs have no clue how to use WinKFP and INPA.
I have the engineering software, but it is for the E and F series cars. Getting INPA and all the needed SP Daten files for K46 S Series is very difficult it seems. However at this point I will pay someone that helps me come to some resolution to this $300 USD to paypal via friends and family payment.
I need a key, switch, and EWS4 married to a ECU that has the correct load for my crashed bike,
or
I need to change the VIN inside yet a second ECU i purchased that included the Key, Switch, and EWS4 module that all match. The load out on this ECU however is completely wrong and I can fix it with ISTA/P if it had the correct VIN I need in it.
I use to do all this with GM TIS2000 software and the TECH2 from 2000-2009. Not like I have not done all this before so I know it can be done. BMW has the software tools to do it .. just a matter of getting the files needed like the E and F series have available.
328 Power 04
10-17-2016, 10:37 AM
I don't think VIN has to do with it. If it's anything like the car EWS system, it's all based on a rolling ISN code, which on newer ECUs cannot be changed (start value is written once in one-time programming section).
So really your first option is good, or a brand new EWS/Key pair from the dealer. There are tools that edit ews, but it's not any of the BMW tools, and unknown if they work on bikes.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 10:52 AM
The VIN change on the ECU resolves the problem on the 2nd ECU, Key, Switch, and EWS4 module I purchased together. These all are matched set. However, the load in the ECU is completely wrong for the options I have on the crashed bike. If I can change the VIN inside this ECU, I can load it with ISTA/P to have the correct HP power features I need.
What are the software and hardware the car guys are using on EWS4 ? I see the TMPro2 lists the module as
Software module 191 – BMW bikes 2012 immobox EWS Price:1200 Euro
Memory device is Motorola 9S12G128.
You can read Motorola 9S12G128 with TMPro2, download connection diagram.
If Motorola is locked, TMPro2 will unlock it automatically before to read eeprom area.
Expected file size is 4096 bytes.
Also you can synchronize engine ECU and immobox if they are not matched pair.
Use TMS37145 80-bit transponder, for example Ford 80-bit
Written transponder is ready programmed to start bike.
Vehicles equipped with this unit:
BMW: R1200, C650, K1600, K1300, C600, F800
1200 Euro was not what I really wanted to pay for something to resolve this when I would expect WinKFP INPA and Tools32 from BMW to be able to do this same function.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 11:17 AM
Why did my posting say a moderator would have to approve the posting before it can be seen? What word did I use that was filtered?
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My posting that was censored for some reason.. Read ..
I need to change a VIN in one of the 3 ECU's I purchased that can resolve my issue.
I purchased a ECU, Key, Switch, and EWS4 module that all are matched and mated. However, the issue is that the ECU is not loaded with the HP Performance program and ISTA/P will not load that option in this ECU. My crashed bike has the correct load out in it, and if I can just put that VIN in that ECU with the matching other hardware, then I have a working solution.
It would seem to me that INPA, WinKFP, and Tools32 can change a VIN in a module, surely it can change the VIN inside a ECU, or make it Virginized and I can just write it with ISTA/P as a new ECU replacement.
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The other part of my posting was about the EWS4 module. I see that TM pro 2 can maybe get into the module and marry a different EWS4 module to the existing ECU that is correctly loaded with all the options I need. I just need a working EWS4 module , Key, and switch for this ECU.
I see that T M Pro 2 can read
Software module 191 – BMW bikes 2012 immobox EWS Price:1200 Euro
Memory device is Motorola 9S12G128.
You can read Motorola 9S12G128 with TMPro2, download connection diagram.
If Motorola is locked, TMPro2 will unlock it automatically before to read eeprom area.
Expected file size is 4096 bytes.
Also you can synchronise engine ECU and immobox if they are not matched pair.
Use TMS37145 80-bit transponder, for example Ford 80-bit
Written transponder is ready programmed to start bike.
Vehicles equipped with this unit:
BMW: R1200, C650, K1600, K1300, C600, F800
Mine is S1000RR and I did not want to really spend 1200 euros on this part of the project.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 12:34 PM
can someone explain why my posts are being either deleted, or put in the moderator approval status ?
328 Power 04
10-17-2016, 12:36 PM
Because you do not have enough posts yet.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 05:02 PM
I have a ECU, Key, Switch, and EWS4 module that all match and married. If I can change the VIN in that ECU, I can load it with ISTA/P with my options of my VIN of the crashed bike.
shogun
10-17-2016, 08:47 PM
Your posts are not censored, they just need approval by a mderator, this is the spam-o-matic software system of the forum, after you have enough posts, no approval necessary, so just be patient.
BMWS1KRR
10-17-2016, 09:42 PM
Sorry.. I just had not seen that type of forum moderation. Usually you cannot start a thread without 10 posts.. Just wish I could get this ECU VIN changed with the BMW software tools. The S Series is so limited in people working on it out there. I ordered a BDM in hopes to download the BIN and change the VIN myself with a hex editor. I have done it that way in the past on GM Dephi PCM's. I've done the removed the SMT from the board and DL'ed the BIN, reversed it with IDA Pro DataRescue, Uploaded, re-soldered to the PCB again.
328 Power 04
10-18-2016, 05:14 PM
The dealer will not cut you a new key due to salvage title, or what?
BMWS1KRR
10-18-2016, 06:35 PM
No, I already tried. Dealer knows me very well. He indicates it a matter of paperwork that has to be sent to Germany for them to cut that key off a VIN.
The bike is crashed. I want it running and riding before I spend 1000;s of dollars fixing it to that point.
NolliM3
10-18-2016, 09:42 PM
I believe it's in your best interest to get all your paperwork taken care of first and have the dealer send it to Germany so you can get the okay BEFORE you spent time and MONEY...what's the rush...you know Rome wasn't built in a day...remember! It's about credibility, and patience...do the right action.
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