View Full Version : Wizard Cooling radiators, any experience?
jicaino
11-09-2014, 07:50 PM
Hey guys
I'm still wanting "a tad better" cooling system for my 540iA
Does anybody have hands on experience with Wizard Cooling bimmer radiators? I had one in my dart and it was a hell of an improvement over many others I've tried.
Thanks in advance
Mannyf540
11-09-2014, 07:51 PM
Any links to the wizard ?
jicaino
11-09-2014, 07:56 PM
http://www.wizardcooling.com/BMW-E39-p/2285-100.htm
Hmm ... Never heard of it before. Must be some black magic in it that does all the wonder. Will have to check the link out.
JimLev
11-09-2014, 10:39 PM
Looks just like a Zionsville radiator, just more expensive.
jicaino
11-10-2014, 05:35 AM
Looks just like a Zionsville radiator, just more expensive.
Not really, not if you factor in the specs on both. The Zionsville has pretty much the same core as the OEM radiators, and they say "european cores". With Behr producing in South Africa and China, and the large amount of sub-contracts our car parts are seeing, I'd guess that you're likely to get the same core as one "OEM" rad with a nice tig'd side tanks.
Wizard Cooling rads are 2 rows of 1" tubing (the core is almost 2x thicker than stock) and have greater spacing between them tubes, increasing both coolant passage volume, displacement of the radiator and improving the breathing area.
I guess I'll bite and report when I get it, it's the only thing that I've seen that really tickles my fancy regarding "radiator improvement". So far I've been looking at the zionsville rad thinking it's overpriced. This I think it might be expensive but actually not overpriced, with all those specs considered, and being an all US made radiator.
philly98540
11-10-2014, 10:13 AM
Looks like a nice Rad. I has the quick connect hose fitting, so only a direct fit for 99+ models even though listing says 98.
Are you not getting enough heat removal on your existing radiator? I have never heard on anyone complaining about lack of heat removal on the stock core unless they go FI and add a front intercooler. The Zionsville core seems just fine by all reports and is less money. Not sure where the cores are sourced.
Report back how it works.
JimLev
11-10-2014, 10:29 AM
Their website says that are in NY, a bit south of Buffalo, have been in business for 25 years. How come we never heard of them before?
I'm gonna check out my Zionsville and see if there are really any differences.
edjack
11-10-2014, 04:14 PM
Timex (OEM) versus Rolex (Zionsville, et al). Take yer money, and make yer choice.
jicaino
11-11-2014, 12:55 AM
I've heard of them, I had one in my over 11.5:1 static CR dart slant six engine, that thing was hard to cool down and this was just perfect with no shroud and a flimsy flex-a-lite fan. I guess they're better known among mopar guys and other american cars enthusiasts.
What I was asking, maybe I phrased it wrong, it was if anybody here had one and could confirm that it's indeed "plug and play" brackets locations and such.
Regarding what I'm trying to accomplish here, I don't want to cure any condition by going "bigger and better". I just don't feel like the OEM cooling system is anywere near overkill, actually I think it barely gets the work done, especially with all the junk in front of the radiator, the relatively small grille openings, water cooled alternator and transmission... the engine runs fine, but I would like to drop tranny temperature and have a larger coolant displacement, coupled with 2 rows of bigger core tubes that has better spacing between them to improve air flow thru the A/C rad, oil cooler, PS cooler, etc.
freethrowdunk
11-11-2014, 02:31 AM
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