07 328i Not starting but battery fine

[Rudyfbaby]

First I flushed out the coolant and it said to hookup and extra battery to the neg and pos points while running the waterpump cycle so battery wont drain so I hooked up the jumper box we had and set it to keep power. So after that everything was fine and I drove home parked car. NExt day I started the car and nothing happened. All the lights work fine radio,windows etc in the car but when I go to hit start I hear a click and then a kinda faint sound and then it stops. I tried to jumpstart and nothing. I was told its the starter probobly but seems weird since it was running fine I just dont know if the battery box maybe messed it up somehow. I have 126,000k on the car so maybe it just went out my luck.. I got a new starter for $130 with lifetime warranty at oreily and I got a shop putting it in tommorow for $225 so hopefully thats the issue. My questions just being was it the battery box that blew it maybe or is it even the starter that went out maybe someone had the same prob here...Thanks

07 328i

[grabbat]

yeah man, it is the starter. try to hit it with something, it may start, then you know.

[Rudyfbaby]

I got the starter changed and now the shop says it's not the starter... Any suggestions??

[Pyewacket69]

First I flushed out the coolant and it said to hookup and extra battery to the neg and pos points while running the waterpump cycle so battery wont drain so I hooked up the jumper box we had and set it to keep power. So after that everything was fine and I drove home parked car. NExt day I started the car and nothing happened. All the lights work fine radio,windows etc in the car but when I go to hit start I hear a click and then a kinda faint sound and then it stops. I tried to jumpstart and nothing. I was told its the starter probobly but seems weird since it was running fine I just dont know if the battery box maybe messed it up somehow. I have 126,000k on the car so maybe it just went out my luck.. I got a new starter for $130 with lifetime warranty at oreily and I got a shop putting it in tommorow for $225 so hopefully thats the issue. My questions just being was it the battery box that blew it maybe or is it even the starter that went out maybe someone had the same prob here...Thanks 07 328i

How do you know the battery isn't at fault?

Unless you've had it load tested, it's impossible to tell. Just because the lights come on doesn't exonerate the battery.

Also, it's the cheapest next step to try.

[Rudyfbaby]

There running tests and charging the battery as we speak so I'll know in an hour or so the problem. I'm gonna be pissed if it was the battery. $250+parts to find out it was a simple battery. The batt only less then a year old though so idk..

[Pilgrim]

Don't throw parts at something like this. Diagnose the problem first...I'm betting the starter was OK.

Did you test the battery with a digital voltmeter to confirm that it had a full charge?

Did you consult a factory service manual for test procedures?

[Chris212]

what did you use to jump start the vehicle... the procedure you used to bleed coolant system drains battery hard core... i do not use it i do it ol' skoo... start car set vent to defrost blower on hi heat on max and sweat it out like richard simmons

[cheech1]

yes, your first step ahould have been to get the battery tested.

[Rudyfbaby]

replaced starter and that wasnt the issue. The car wont start and now says "control module fault" code and they said its something to do with my ignition and the key supposedly but i dont think he knows wtf

[Rudolph320i]

May I ask why you dont think he knows?

[Rudyfbaby]

Heres what came up

A0AA - Control Module Fault
A116 - Electric Steering Lock Critical Status
A0B5 - Road Speed Signal Fault

Hes telling me the ignition and key need to be reprogrammed and its prob like $1500-1900 and only the dealer can do it. Just wanted to see who elese has had these problems.

[Rudolph320i]

Id advise taking it to the dealer and having them diagnose the problem.

[Rudyfbaby]

I am tommorow. I've had the car less then 30days to. :( haven't even made my first payment yet. I'll post the outcome of the diagnostic at the dealer tommorow afternoon once it's towed there. Hopefully not over $1000

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still nobody has these issues????

I dont get how it was basically the starter and the battery was fine now after changing it the battery is dead and these codes are popping up. I never seen a steering lock icon ever red or yellow so im confused because everyone usually sees that icon. Would disconnecting and reconnecting the battery cause this issue? they said the battery is dead to so they are charging it but wont start still.

anyone??? im taking to dealer but still would like to know.

everything and everyone said starter and now its a whole other issue.they checked all hoses and connections all good they said..

[Rudolph320i]

so the shop you took it to changed your battery, then told you the battery that they put in was dead?

[Chris212]

ive had independent shops bring there customer cars to my shop and it turned out to be that the key was not inserted in the slot... all the way...

[Pyewacket69]

everything and everyone said starter and now its a whole other issue.they checked all hoses and connections all good they said..

You need to define "everything and everyone".

There are multiple posters here (of which I am one) that would not have started out with swapping out the starter.

Throwing parts at problems not well understood rarely solves those problems.

No one is above the desire to save money, of course, but to think avoiding a competent shop/dealer able to do the appropriate diagnostics is always the higher cost option Is a fallacy.

[Chris212]

Heres what came up

A0AA - Control Module Fault
A116 - Electric Steering Lock Critical Status
A0B5 - Road Speed Signal Fault

Hes telling me the ignition and key need to be reprogrammed and its prob like $1500-1900 and only the dealer can do it. Just wanted to see who elese has had these problems.

E90's throw weird faults when the system senses anything below 10v.... i dont recall E90 having an e.l.v. (elec. steering lock)

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.... i dont think he meant you or us... re-read his first post im under the ASS..umption that it was told from elsewhere first... a good tech doesnt take any shit personal...

[Rudyfbaby]

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[Chris212]

its not steering wheel lock its steering angle sensor... ensure the key is inserted fully... then drive car 2. miles and steering angle should re-align itself... battery reset or battery registration or both may help... did they register battery to car.. if so then attempt battery reset it will reset entire car... then set tire pressure and drive all lights should clear in less than 2 miles during vehicle self test

[Rudolph320i]

Did they load test the battery? Have they done any diagnostics at all?

[Rudyfbaby]

So before I took it to the shop all the lights came on just like normal but it wouldn't start and you could hear it click or try to start. The tow truck guy left the keys on and the car died. So they replaced starter then recharged battery and now I got a steering wheel lock red icon and it won't start at all. The battery is fine he said but it won't even recognize key is even inserted now but it will play the stereo and everything else works... I'm confused now.. It's at the BMW specialty shop now they said it's more then likely. The cas needs to be realigned or something.

By everybody I didn't mean anyone here I meant looking online and other people that came by to look at the car. But none owned bmw so I prob shoulda not listened.

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its not steering wheel lock its steering angle sensor... ensure the key is inserted fully... then drive car 2. miles and steering angle should re-align itself... battery reset or battery registration or both may help... did they register battery to car.. if so then attempt battery reset it will reset entire car... then set tire pressure and drive all lights should clear in less than 2 miles during vehicle self test

The car won't start now though. When a key is inserted the red steering wheel lock light comes on and it acts like it does t even recognize the key now.

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what did you use to jump start the vehicle... the procedure you used to bleed coolant system drains battery hard core... i do not use it i do it ol' skoo... start car set vent to defrost blower on hi heat on max and sweat it out like richard simmons

I used one of these http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B000RFGOIU?pc_redir=1411032122&robot_redir=1

I had this Connected while running the water pump as to not drain the battery but apparently it didn't help or idk if the guy at my work cranked it up to high and it damaged the car somehow. It started fine right after that and I drove it around and it was OK. I don't think I should have to flush it for awhile now but I will remember to do it old school way instead.

[Rudyfbaby]

They tested the battery it's fine. I won't be using the water pump battery drain method again. The car went from doing everything but starting and all lights came on etc it recognized the key. Now after replacing the starter and after they reconnected the battery after charging it since it was dead the car won't recognize the key now and it shows a red steering lock icon

[Pyewacket69]

They tested the battery it's fine. I won't be using the water pump battery drain method again. The car went from doing everything but starting and all lights came on etc it recognized the key. Now after replacing the starter and after they reconnected the battery after charging it since it was dead the car won't recognize the key now and it shows a red steering lock icon

IIRC, you said the car was going to a dealer for diagnostics. Has that happened? What were you told by the dealer service rep?

[Rudyfbaby]

They tested the battery it's fine. I won't be using the water pump battery drain method again. The car went from doing everything but starting and all lights came on etc it recognized the key. Now after replacing the starter and after they reconnected the battery after charging it since it was dead the car won't recognize the key now and it shows a red steering lock icon

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They called me and I picked up the car apparently it was the starter but I guess the battery dying out caused the error so a cas update whatever they call it fixed it and my steering is fine and car starts. So it was the starter but just when they hooked up the battery again it started throwing codes. Good thing I took it to a BMW shop the guy at the first shop said I needed a new ignition and key programmed and it would be $1900. Im glad I didnt do it because that wouldn't have fixed anything anyways and Id be stuck still and $2400 short.

[Pyewacket69]

Glad to know you're up and running again.

[Rudyfbaby]

Glad to know you're up and running again.
Thanks me to glad I got it resolved without spending over $2k on something not even the real problem. I expected to spend money but not $400 within the first 30 days of owning it but oh well. I had a 93-94 bmw when I was 18 I changed oil one time after 2 years and it ran fine no issues nothing. I sold it after awhile but only the glovebox broke thats it.