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TripleVANOS
09-25-2014, 12:25 AM
"I've had the E34 for three days now, and it hasn't been at all like I expected it to be."

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I'd say it would be fair to call me a motor head. I think my wife would say I’m 'a car guy'. At work, I’m a fan. You’ll notice though, that people who love cars seem to also surround themselves by other people who love cars, so in my circle I don’t really stand out. A friend of mine owns five older BMWs, and is as passionate about the brand as anyone I know. I myself have been rolling Bavarian steel for eleven years now. Last Sunday evening I brought home one of my friends five cars; a double-black E34 5 Series that I’m taking on loan for a few months. Freeing up a spot in his driveway and adding an alternative to my daily commute I was both relieved to be putting fewer miles on my leased car, and excited to drive something that was new to me. A good arrangement for both, and who knows, I may end up wanting to buy it from him.

The next morning however, we did not get off to a good start, the car and I. It was low on electricity, low on coolant, and very low on oil. Only three of the four windows work, the tires don’t match, several of the interior/exterior lights don’t work properly, and the car is wrongly convinced that it needs more coolant after being filled. I guess those who know me well would say this is on par for me; forever a project-car owner. Covered with pine needles and dirt, full of old gas and smelling like dust and leather, I cleaned out the car and gave it a proper wash. After then refilling my electricity and fluids, I was finally able to drive it by the end of the day.

I've had the E34 for three days now, and it hasn't been at all like I expected it to be. Today was my wife’s birthday and my day off from work as well. Today it seemed, was the perfect opportunity for a day trip to test the E34s roadworthiness. We set off to Vancouver to have lunch and enjoy a few hours of Northwest highway in the old school Five.

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The first thing that struck me was just how different this car feels from any other BMW I’ve owned or driven. It’s not yet a classic car, but is certainly far from modern. It’s no show-car or garage queen, yet I’d say that I've seen many E34s in worse shape than this one. This ’94 525i has 233,000 original miles on it, and I'm reminded of that when driving it. It has a trunk-lid from a 540i due to being rear-ended at some point. It has enough other dents, scratches, and eyesores to make you realize that they’re probably not worth fixing, yet the body and paint are nice enough that I couldn’t imagine ever feeling embarrassed to be seen in it. The power-adjustable, heated leather seats are well worn in and comfortable. The doors are at the proper height to hang your arm out the window. The steering feels lazy, but drives straight and rolls around the slower corners very smoothly. To my amazement, the suspension even handled the washboard gravel roads near Perrydale without shaking my teeth loose.

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If I had to pick a gripe, it would be the transmission. After nearly a quarter-million miles it just feels exhausted. It requires you to put your foot nearly all the way to the floor to get a proper “kick-down” if you want to pass someone. Cruising between 55-60mph, the transmission has a very difficult time deciding exactly which gear it wants to be in, which is more than annoying on Oregon roads where the limit is 55. Add on the fact that the engine isn’t what it used to be, and you very quickly throw away any ideas of overtaking on a two-way, two lane stretch of highway. Would this be better with a manual gear lever? Sure. But I'm not positive I'd like the trade-offs with this small-six quarter-million mile power plant. It's certainly not bad enough to keep me from driving it.

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My new 2 Series makes so much more sense to drive than the E34. It’s quieter, safer, faster, more economical, more comfortable, more feature-filled, and would drive circles around the old Five on a track. But sometimes more is less. Or so I’ve heard. The E34 is a $2000 car that has already had a full life; it hasn’t slipped my mind that I should be grateful for every additional mile it gives me. My 2 Series feels like a precision instrument in the way my digital watch runs on batteries and keeps the time perfectly. The 2 Series is a smooth-driving performance car. The E34 on the other hand is like one of my mechanical watches. It requires me to wear it regularly or it dies, it runs a few seconds fast each day, and is admittedly on my wrist in part for aesthetics. My mechanical watch has a heartbeat though, and there’s a bit more to it than just telling the time. The Five is certainly going to end up costing me money and may not make sense from a practical standpoint, but at the end of the day I don’t care about any of that; it has character and a heartbeat. I enjoy looking at it, and I like the way it makes me feel when I’m driving it.

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sea6speed
09-25-2014, 02:05 AM
I had a 2011 135i I barely drove (4000 miles in 1.5 years) before getting the e34. Worlds apart.

corcovado
09-25-2014, 02:29 AM
I had a 2011 135i I barely drove (4000 miles in 1.5 years) before getting the e34. Worlds apart.

Elaborate..

GGray
09-25-2014, 11:10 AM
Nice. They are fun cars, not an E30, but they seem to like to roll on down the road.

I miss my 540 M sport the V8 was a great sounding motor!

SpeedsterBek
09-25-2014, 02:37 PM
Bravo, this was a nice article to read, much betterthan some of the crap I see on car magazines nowadays.

So is it better or worse than what you expected? Keep in mind, you are driving the slowest version with the old archaic transmission by modern standards. 525i paired with manual have adequate passing power, but I wouldn't attempt some of the maneuvers if my 525i had a slushbox.
Performance cars with automatic transmissions feel outdated really quick. Many of the old ferraris, maseratties, bentleys and old M cars with automatics are almost always less desirable and cheaper than the same car with manuals.

Anyway, Jeremy Clarkson once said, what separates a good car from the rest is whether it has a soul or not. IMO, E34 has a character, a soul that isn't often found in modern new cars.
Any car that you look forward to driving via long way back home after hard day at work is a good car in my book.

Quickcars
09-26-2014, 11:14 AM
^^^^ This!

BleedsBlue
09-26-2014, 12:23 PM
The Five is certainly going to end up costing me money

QFT

Well-said points about how it feels to drive an old-school Bimmer.

sea6speed
09-26-2014, 01:41 PM
Elaborate..

They're just very different feeling cars. They're about the same weight, but the 135i feels 700lbs lighter than my 535i. The smooth and instantaneous torque from the N55 makes for effortless and eager acceleration an the clutch/gearbox is light yet precise. Pushed to the limits, DSC nearly drives the car itself whereas turning it off it's easy to completely lose rear traction. Down sides to the 135i are the run flat tires that give it a harsh yet uncommunicative ride and some noticeable ergonomic oversights.

To some degree the 135i feels cheap- mine had a $47K MSRP and certain aspects of the design, both interior and exterior you could really tell where BMW cut corners in making a 'premium' car out of a base model. Despite the E34's age, it has a more premium feel.

corcovado
09-26-2014, 03:35 PM
They're just very different feeling cars. They're about the same weight, but the 135i feels 700lbs lighter than my 535i. The smooth and instantaneous torque from the N55 makes for effortless and eager acceleration an the clutch/gearbox is light yet precise. Pushed to the limits, DSC nearly drives the car itself whereas turning it off it's easy to completely lose rear traction. Down sides to the 135i are the run flat tires that give it a harsh yet uncommunicative ride and some noticeable ergonomic oversights.

To some degree the 135i feels cheap- mine had a $47K MSRP and certain aspects of the design, both interior and exterior you could really tell where BMW cut corners in making a 'premium' car out of a base model. Despite the E34's age, it has a more premium feel.

Ah, interesting, thanks, I was wondering if it was a good or bad different. My GF's 2010 Golf with AT/5cyl making ~170hp feels like a race car compared to the M60, even though there's a 100 hp difference, supposedly in my favor.

JoeFVaz
09-26-2014, 08:27 PM
Imo, what makes a car stand out in the crowd is the ability to bring a smile to the driver's face. I commute with a 2014 ford fusion that, besides all the electronic gadgets, has a 240hp engine under the hood. Yet, I cannot wait for the weekend to put my hands on my old 535i. It is noisy, a true gas guzzler, but it is still miles away from any other car when the "fun factor" is taken into account.

Dtbimmer525
09-29-2014, 10:18 PM
That's a beautiful car. I'm new to the forum and don't know much but what I do know is I want those wheels on mine haha.

e34Croak
09-30-2014, 10:58 AM
Nice! I lived in So Lame for a few years. Clean 5er!

TripleVANOS
10-09-2014, 03:54 PM
Thanks everyone, it's been a nice car to have in the driveway.

e34Croak
10-10-2014, 10:48 AM
Thanks everyone, it's been a nice car to have in the driveway.
Ahh, you're a client advisor for BMW of Salem, Nice! Welcome.

BleedsBlue
10-10-2014, 12:17 PM
That's a beautiful car. I'm new to the forum and don't know much but what I do know is I want those wheels on mine haha.

Style 5

q20v
10-10-2014, 12:23 PM
Great write-up. Thanks for sharing!

sully42
10-10-2014, 01:35 PM
Nice. They are fun cars, not an E30, but they seem to like to roll on down the road.

I miss my 540 M sport the V8 was a great sounding motor!

Wanna buy a non M sport 540?

bE34ST
10-10-2014, 04:12 PM
Good read. I drive a E39 540i M-Sport now, but at Times I still think of the all the smiles per gallon I enjoyed in in my 535i/5.

TripleVANOS
10-11-2014, 02:13 AM
Ahh, you're a client advisor for BMW of Salem, Nice! Welcome.

Are you at PDX, Kuni, or Eugene?

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Great write-up. Thanks for sharing!

Thanks! I wish I could get a new car every month; I'd start a blog.

Jackson42
10-11-2014, 10:37 AM
Well and thoughtfully put! We've got four old Bimmers at our house, and every one of them has its own unique and satisfying character. After weeks on the road driving rentals, I can't wait to get home and drive one (or all) of them - REAL cars.

shortbaldguy
10-11-2014, 01:34 PM
We need more OR. BMW gatherings. Just sayin'

TripleVANOS
09-15-2016, 12:27 AM
UPDATE:
The E34 was a fantastic car, and I enjoyed driving it every day. I believe I kept it for nearly a year before giving it back to the previous owner. The last couple months I found myself missing that car, which is what makes this an update post...

I bought another BMW a few days ago, this time an E39. I had a PPI (POST Purchase Inspection in my case) done, and am in the process of getting the car caught up on maintenance. Once that's done and I've got some miles on the road, I'll post some sort of an introduction thread for the group. Naturally, I'll post in the E39 section but I'll post a link here as well.

Thanks for all the kind words guys :)

B320i
09-16-2016, 01:14 AM
I like this write-up!

Despite all the grumblings I have about my E36, the fear of a computer that refuses to talk with diagnostic equipment (and its expensive sensors), fear of cooling system issues/cracked heads and all that... Its still a fun vehicle to drive! Maybe not as fast as even the modern buzz-boxes/rice-burners, but has character, and I like that!