WOT: Here we go. How many Euro Spec cars are in this country?

[EuroGeorge]

I know of probably 9-10 within my local area of operation.

So, roughly how many Euro 635's (or 628,633) and M635's are now occupying the USA?

If you have a Euro E21,23,28,30,34 or whatever Alpina, Hartge, Schnitzer or Koenig, feel free to chime in.

I'm keepin track. Story at eleven :beer

Geo

[gaspump]

Hell George, by 11 you'll be toast.

[EuroGeorge]

Hell George, by 11 you'll be toast.

Burnt toast my friend :drink3

[dcains]

Count me in. '85 Euro 635 diamond black over black interior 5-speed.

[apbails]

83 E24 B.9 3.5 Alpina. Geisha is Japanese-spec. a hybrid. so don't know how she counts

[tkohl]

Add mine in. '85 Euro 635CSi, auto, Silver, Blue interior. Currently working on repairing front nose. All parts still available in Germany.

[Freshbread]

Alright George bust out the abacus!

[EuroGeorge]

Alright George bust out the abacus!

Wait a minute. Is that 6 or 7??? :bash

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83 E24 B.9 3.5 Alpina. Geisha is Japanese-spec. a hybrid. so don't know how she counts

That's 3 for you. We can include the B10. It's totally acceptable :drink1

[xing6666]

85 M635 and then there's jrp210's m635 too.

[rmorin1249]

Add mine to the tally.

[EuroGeorge]

I'm going to assume, with the help of an abacus, if there are 10-12 in my backyard, could there be 2-3 hundred in the states?

[alpinacsi]

I have 6 here now. 2 are not mine.

[EuroGeorge]

I have 6 here now. 2 are not mine.

Well if you have 6, then there has got to be more like 3-4 hundred out there

[Layne]

Www.bmwmregistry.com shows 160 M635's owned in the US, and I personally believe that covers maybe 25-35% of the real number (just based on the number I know of that aren't on there). AND I'm fairly certain euro non-M's originally outnumbered them 3 or 4 to 1, but they get junked at a higher rate (earlier models rust worse, and 12 valves are less valuable). So, my guess 1500-2000 cars remaining.

[EuroGeorge]

Www.bmwmregistry.com (http://Www.bmwmregistry.com) shows 160 M635's owned in the US, and I personally believe that covers maybe 25-35% of the real number (just based on the number I know of that aren't on there). AND I'm fairly certain euro non-M's originally outnumbered them 3 or 4 to 1, but they get junked at a higher rate (earlier models rust worse, and 12 valves are less valuable). So, my guess 1500-2000 cars remaining.

Layne, That's a number I was looking for or at least an intelligent gestimation. That's like 4 times the amount I was coming up with using my abacus :beer

[markiehd]

im in 85 635csi polaris with buffalo hide in roseville ca

[ATLE36M3]

1985 635 euro, burgundyrot with lama in atlanta ga

[dmac156]

This is probably a decent estimate. I went to this webpage (http://www.e-24.ru/eng/theory/tech/vin/), dumped the data into excel, and looked a the total production of euro (ECE) LHD cars. Based on that date, the total number produced are:

- M635: 3,400
- 635: 24775
- 628, 630, 633 : 18,283

You can make your own guess for the % of these that made it into the US. Keep in mind ECE would cover all of Europe, not just Germany.

My guess is 10% or less made it into the US. The rate at which they were imported was probably not consistent across the production dates of the e24, I'd expect a higher rate of import between 1982-86 than I would for the other years. However, I just applied 10% across the board which would put the numbers at:

- M635: 340
- 635: 2477
- 628, 630, 633 : 1828



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[Layne]

This is probably a decent estimate. I went to this webpage (http://www.e-24.ru/eng/theory/tech/vin/), dumped the data into excel, and looked a the total production of euro (ECE) LHD cars. Based on that date, the total number produced are:

- M635: 3,400
- 635: 24775
- 628, 630, 633 : 18,283

You can make your own guess for the % of these that made it into the US. Keep in mind ECE would cover all of Europe, not just Germany.

My guess is 10% or less made it into the US. The rate at which they were imported was probably not consistent across the production dates of the e24, I'd expect a higher rate of import between 1982-86 than I would for the other years. However, I just applied 10% across the board which would put the numbers at:

- M635: 340
- 635: 2477
- 628, 630, 633 : 1828



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At one time I looked up the year-by-year production of M635's and found that in years where US import was possible, production was much higher. Roughly 1000 cars per year. Roughly the same as the number of US M6's made per year. So it seems logical to me that those extra 1000 cars went to the US in 1984 and 1985. I do know that 340 is much too low, every one of them would have to be surviving, and we know that isn't possible.

[dmac156]

At one time I looked up the year-by-year production of M635's and found that in years where US import was possible, production was much higher. Roughly 1000 cars per year. Roughly the same as the number of US M6's made per year. So it seems logical to me that those extra 1000 cars went to the US in 1984 and 1985. I do know that 340 is much too low, every one of them would have to be surviving, and we know that isn't possible.

This shows that 3400 M635s were built from 1983-88. 340 was the number I came up with based on a guess of 10% imported. If 1000 are in the US, then a third of them made it into the US.

Check out the link I provided above (here it is in cut and paste form: http://www.e-24.ru/eng/theory/tech/vin/ ) He lists the vin ranges, and I think it's accurate, so the starting point should be valid. We can take our best guess on the % imported, but if the base numbers are accurate the number in the US could not be higher than 3400 (if 100% shipped to the US).

[Linwood Mingis]

I know of probably 9-10 within my local area of operation.

So, roughly how many Euro 635's (or 628,633) and M635's are now occupying the USA?

If you have a Euro E21,23,28,30,34 or whatever Alpina, Hartge, Schnitzer or Koenig, feel free to chime in.

I'm keepin track. Story at eleven :beer

Geo

Two in Richmond that are on the road still that I know of.....
1979 635 Polaris silver with blue interior... that would be me.
1980 635 Cypress green with beige interior...that would be Don Elliot (Vadon)
There are a few trashed and or wrecked parts cars around with the tin worms eating away on them.
I do believe the tin worms have finished off many of the cars imported here in the 1980s. People took advantage of the one time EPA exemption on five year old or older cars. That meant 1976-1981 e24 cars had been exposed to at least 5 years of harsh winters, meaning the tin worms had settled in and started to eat.....before the cars ever got here.

[rmorin1249]

Personally I hope the number is on the low end of the estimate. This should bode well for future values. However the lower numbers do not help sourcing Euro specific parts.

[apbails]

At one time I looked up the year-by-year production of M635's and found that in years where US import was possible, production was much higher. Roughly 1000 cars per year. Roughly the same as the number of US M6's made per year. So it seems logical to me that those extra 1000 cars went to the US in 1984 and 1985. I do know that 340 is much too low, every one of them would have to be surviving, and we know that isn't possible.

Amazing

[Gatso7]

'86 M635CSI

Henna/Schwartz
512037

[Roku35]

I am tuned into most of the E24s here in Hawaii, especially the Euro models. I am not 100% certain, but pretty close...

I have Euros confirmed:
3 - M635csi (1 clean + 1 driveable + 1 wreck)
8 - 635csi
1 - 628csi

[EuroGeorge]

I am tuned into most of the E24s here in Hawaii, especially the Euro models. I am not 100% certain, but pretty close...

I have Euros confirmed:
3 - M635csi (1 clean + 1 driveable + 1 wreck)
8 - 635csi
1 - 628csi

Dude, That's 12. Not bad. Are they all on the big island? Is that a stupid question?

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'86 M635CSI

Henna/Schwartz
512037Nice. Henna over Schwarz. Congrats

[wabrowne]

My bronzit beige metallic 84Euro635 & blauschwarz 84M635

[rlkrlk]

I know of an M635 about 10 feet behind me ;-)

I've er... owned 3 of them over the past 20 years (yikes!).

Mine has Layne's AFM in it, so I dunno how he drives his :D

Cheers,

Ray

[brickwhite]

1985 M635csi Euro, in my Garage.

[FernandoBunster]

I guess my euro Frankenstein doesn't count.

[gaspump]

Mine is a Euro, but I cant recall seeing any others in Indiana, euro or us version.

[EuroGeorge]

I guess my euro Frankenstein doesn't count.

It's got Euro bits and pieces. Right?

[FernandoBunster]

It's got Euro bits and pieces. Right?

Everything; engine, suspension (M635), lights, headlight wipers, bumpers front and rear, rear headrests, etc,etc.

[tom2941]

1979 635csi blue with 5 speed. bought in June 1987.

[psychrunner]

Count my 1981 635csi in Artikisblau.

[EuroGeorge]

Count my 1981 635csi in Artikisblau.

Are you keeping your car or just haven't found a buyer?

Cheers,

George

[Roku35]

Dude, That's 12. Not bad. Are they all on the big island? Is that a stupid question? I only know of one 635csi on the island of Maui and a M635csi with no engine. None on the Big Island. Ten on the island of Oahu for which there are 4-5 in my neighborhood :D

[Coupenut]

Add my 84 Polaris 635CSi, and I know of a running 85 635CSi cabriolet conversion in the area as well.

[Bert Poliakoff]

Mine is an 81 635. I know Ray Mehr and his son Raymond in Phoenix have at least one euro 635 and maybe two

[EuroGeorge]

Mine is an 81 635. I know Ray Mehr and his son Raymond in Phoenix have at least one euro 635 and maybe two

Hey Bert, Welcome home. How was...wherever you were???

[Bert Poliakoff]

Russia. A bucnch to tell, but I will say Moscow was as clean and beautiful as it gets. If I see one more onion domed church I will choke, but they were absolutely beautiful and impressive with architecture going back to the 1500's

Bert's word for the day. I, in all honesty, believe the KGB still exists and operates. Everything appears fine until almost everone you talk to says they love Putin and he has an 83% approval rating. Bullshit says me. Oh, and they also insist Russia has not sent any troops into Ukraine. Everyone I spoke to says the same thing almost word for word.They are scared of something, as a whole nationality can't be saying the same thing all of the time. We had a professotr of Russian history and politics giving a lecture on the boat every day. She was wiggly and I couldn't get straight answers from her....until I put pressure on her.Then things got interesting. i should say I can torque someone down pretty hard and she wasn't happy about being in a position where she couldn't lie.

[rmorin1249]

I am starting to feel the world coming apart at the seams. Conflicts abound and we have no leadership.

[EuroGeorge]

Russia. A bucnch to tell, but I will say Moscow was as clean and beautiful as it gets. If I see one more onion domed church I will choke, but they were absolutely beautiful and impressive with architecture going back to the 1500's

Bert's word for the day. I, in all honesty, believe the KGB still exists and operates. Everything appears fine until almost everone you talk to says they love Putin and he has an 83% approval rating. Bullshit says me. Oh, and they also insist Russia has not sent any troops into Ukraine. Everyone I spoke to says the same thing almost word for word.They are scared of something, as a whole nationality can't be saying the same thing all of the time. We had a professotr of Russian history and politics giving a lecture on the boat every day. She was wiggly and I couldn't get straight answers from her....until I put pressure on her.Then things got interesting. i should say I can torque someone down pretty hard and she wasn't happy about being in a position where she couldn't lie.

You may be responsible for launching the second COLD WAR!!!

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I am starting to feel the world coming apart at the seams. Conflicts abound and we have no leadership.

Evil hiding within the guise of religion is easy to understand. Evil operating outside the guise of religion. now that's a problem. If the Islamic Fundamentalists insist that we are the problem, I say we vaporize them and prove them right. Putin just needs his ass kicked. And good.

[Freshbread]

You may be responsible for launching the second COLD WAR!!!

- - - Putin just needs his ass kicked. And good.

You mean a narcissist with the keys to a country hell bent on marching across old territories whilst annexing them concerns you?;)

[EuroGeorge]

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You mean a narcissist with the keys to a country hell bent on marching across old territories whilst annexing them concerns you?;)

Damn right it concerns me. I say we give him 72 hours to withdraw or else we are coming for him and we're bringin the big guns.:para: :ripperwho :bazooka :chainsaw :ak :ar15firin :bigun2 :rocketwho

[Gatso7]

errrrrrrr....how many Euro 6's are there again?

[EuroGeorge]

errrrrrrr....how many Euro 6's are there again?

Ahhh...43 so far. I'm fine. Good to go.

[loxxrider]

I have an 85 black euro. Easily one of the most beautiful rusty cars out there :)

[Linwood Mingis]

Damn right it concerns me. I say we give him 72 hours to withdraw or else we are coming for him and we're bringin the big guns.:para: :ripperwho :bazooka :chainsaw :ak :ar15firin :bigun2 :rocketwho

WOW.....George, you sound like George Bush in 2003.....look where that got us!!

[Judd123]

Add mine
79 635 Henna and a 84 M635

[EuroGeorge]

WOW.....George, you sound like George Bush in 2003.....look where that got us!!

George Bush was and is an idiot. Our current Commander in Chief, or whatever he calls himself, stated in public we would protect the interests of Ukraine...Lip service and/or sanctions are not going to get it done. Suggest another solution.

[Linwood Mingis]

George Bush was and is an idiot. Our current Commander in Chief, or whatever he calls himself, stated in public we would protect the interests of Ukraine...Lip service and/or sanctions are not going to get it done. Suggest another solution.

This is a European problem.....let the EU deal with this. They have the assets to give help to the army of Ukraine. If this situation gets out of control and spreads into other parts of eastern Europe, it can become a NATO problem. At that point in time the US (as a member) will carry its share of the load. This country cannot afford to be the policeman for the world. We have enough problems to deal with in the middle east that do directly effect us.
I am sorry to have gotten off on this.....so how many euro spec e24s do we have here?

[EuroGeorge]

This is a European problem.....let the EU deal with this. They have the assets to give help to the army of Ukraine. If this situation gets out of control and spreads into other parts of eastern Europe, it can become a NATO problem. At that point in time the US (as a member) will carry its share of the load. This country cannot afford to be the policeman for the world. We have enough problems to deal with in the middle east that do directly effect us.
I am sorry to have gotten off on this.....so how many euro spec e24s do we have here?

47, and counting...

[tkohl]

I will have one more to add next week. 85 635CSi. 5speed. Light blue with white side stripes. I don't know what the colors name is. Cloth interior soon to me leather. Supposedly only 91k one it per the picture. Now i'll have 2 euro's. Maybe some day fix the first one. Still driving it with no front bumper.

[disqord]

+1 for mine. '78 635 Graphite