Budget Drift car v2. 1995 E36 M3

[Mikestokman]

So about a year ago i picked up a bone stock e36 318i from a guy that was about a day away from the scrapper. Bought it with intent to drift, so put a motor in, did coilovers and welded the diff with a hydro ebrake. Slid around and learned some basics.

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And now on to the new car. Decided I needed more power for next year as the 1.8 sucked. Lucky for me a local guy I know crashed his M3 into a wall and decided he no longer wanted 4 cars so after a few trades I ended up with it in my driveway.It wasnt pretty but it was gonna be worth it.

[Mikestokman]

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The car came with a few sweet upgrades that I wasnt fully aware of when i bought it. Full uuc exhaust, H&R coilovers, H&R rear camber arms, and upgraded motor mounts. My first mod when i was bored was to paint all the aero matching because the front bumper was mangled and I like the of my old car more then the solid red. So i scuffed everything and painted it satin black.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/BD83B438-28C3-46F5-9B86-0CB0F464ACA4-613-000000617030C596_zpsd8620fe4.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/BD83B438-28C3-46F5-9B86-0CB0F464ACA4-613-000000617030C596_zpsd8620fe4.jpg.html)

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- - - Updated - - -

Next job was swapping the interior pieces that I modded in the old car into this one and the m3 stuff into that so i could sell it.

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Got some parts, that got broken in the crash, to make it move, and cleaned some stuff in the engine bay,

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[Mikestokman]

Next up was straightening the frame. Took it to my dads shop and had at 'er.

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[Mikestokman]

And this is how it currently sits.

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Quite happy with the outcome and still have a bunch of things to clean up before its a finished product and ready for race season but for now Im happy with the result. And for a car that Im into for 400$ its not too shabby.

thanks for looking!
Mike.

[e36 sloth]

She is looking good so far mike. I cant wait to see her sliding :buttrock

[Mikestokman]

She is looking good so far mike. I cant wait to see her sliding :buttrock

Thanks! I suck at making build threads here apparently haha. Definatly excited to get out on track. Too much winter here... It's tempting to get it done and make the trip out to evergreen and go get some early season practice in. Gonna machine up some rack spacers tomorrow and try and get a tiny bit more angle out of the car before I can afford the slr kit. Looking at the clearance between frame and tire, I should be able to get away with a 225-235 tire with some slip on spacers @20mm. 17x7.5 et21(after spacer) gonna pull the front end off again tomorrow and paint my frame rails and replace all the belts and the broken pulley.

[e36 sloth]

Thanks! I suck at making build threads here apparently haha. Definatly excited to get out on track. Too much winter here... It's tempting to get it done and make the trip out to evergreen and go get some early season practice in. Gonna machine up some rack spacers tomorrow and try and get a tiny bit more angle out of the car before I can afford the slr kit. Looking at the clearance between frame and tire, I should be able to get away with a 225-235 tire with some slip on spacers @20mm. 17x7.5 et21(after spacer) gonna pull the front end off again tomorrow and paint my frame rails and replace all the belts and the broken pulley.
You should be fine running the 235's, My old roommate is running 235's on 15mm spacers if i remember right. Good luck on the belts, should be fun!

[3184life]

Yah B.C. You also should make the pictures bigger so more people see the vents in the hood, they are sick

[Mikestokman]

Haha I would if I knew how... I tried importing them from photobucket and I think that's why I had to break it up into 4 posts :/ I'm contemplating doing the vents in the m3 aswell but I dunno how it would look with the red paint...

[Mikestokman]

So since my steering rack is blown, and we just got a clean 325i at picknpull, i got a new steering rack and tie rods.

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and i installed my rack spacers to see how much i would need to shim out my wheel. This is with contours (17x7.5+41)

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and this is with rack spacers and motorsport wheels (17x7.5+21 with wheel spacer)

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[Mikestokman]

And last but not least I freshened up my hydro ebrake and put in some stainless bushings so it wont be sloppy on track and break like last year.


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[Mikestokman]

Havent updated in a while but been working on it a bunch, so here it is.

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Painted the nose piece, reworked my fan bracket, steering rack and everything has been swapped over.

next up was my messed up hood latches, pins are cheap and easy, so I did that.

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[Mikestokman]

Then we went and did a little shakedown/ practice day and the car drifts way better then the 318!

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And this is how it sits right now with skirts installed. cage will be welded in pretty soon, and Im having shifter issues so ive got to mess around with shift linkage at some point.

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[RandomHero27]

What kinda wheels are those on the 318? Those are exactly what i want for dailies.

[Mikestokman]

What kinda wheels are those on the 318? Those are exactly what i want for dailies.
They are old school riken mesh wheels off like an old trans am. 16x9.5+38 and I had to run an 8 mm spacer up front to clear the strut

[Mikestokman]

Update time:

been forever since ive updated this thread because ive been too busy falling in love with this car!

To catch everyone up:

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Made a door card that doesnt have clearance issues with my seat,



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Bought a new mishimoto rad, overheating issues are all gone temps have been consistant ever since.


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Went and got an allignment from a friend that works at a shop. running a bit of toe out in the front now, seems to work well.


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My friend bought a tube bender to do his tube front/crash bar for his proam car, so we spend a day building a 4 point cage for my car. free things are cool. going to add on the front half this winter more then likely, but this was quick and easy and cost me like 200~ in dom.


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Full interior in a racecar? damn yeah.


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Battery relocated, painted all the things. My factory location was rusting away so its 110% safer there.


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Finally got an m bumper off a missile car that a friend bought


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Got 5x120-5x114.3 adapters for the front so I can run all my stock m wheels in the rear and buy decent size/offset wheels for cheap when I do an angle mod (more then the rack spacers, probably slr..)

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And thats up to date. just competed in the first comp day of the year and didnt qualify.. only took top 8 qualifiers and based on the general consensus in the pits i should have been right up there. had 2 solid qualifying runs but not enough to make the cut. not a big deal, huge improvement over last year and i could not be any happier.

I think next on the mod list is poly rear bushings everywhere, but we'll see.
till then,


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[RandomHero27]

damn, them door cards! are they aluminum? would you consider making some to sell? my leather cards are #$%^.

also, digging that cage!

[Mikestokman]

Only one side is like that the other is still the floppy oem one so passengers have something to hold on to. Yeah it's aluminum and wood for the speaker hole spacer (lol) so far too ghetto to consider selling haha. More so made it because you can get a v.i. For not having door cards and ain't nobody got time for that! If you seriously wanted some just go to any sheet metal shop with like a cardboard template of what you're after and it would be cheap and easy for them to cut out. Took me 15 minutes at work to do the outside shape. I just riveted it straight to the door frame with some foam tape in between, doesn't rattle at all (seriously, nothing)

[RandomHero27]

Only one side is like that the other is still the floppy oem one so passengers have something to hold on to. Yeah it's aluminum and wood for the speaker hole spacer (lol) so far too ghetto to consider selling haha. More so made it because you can get a v.i. For not having door cards and ain't nobody got time for that! If you seriously wanted some just go to any sheet metal shop with like a cardboard template of what you're after and it would be cheap and easy for them to cut out. Took me 15 minutes at work to do the outside shape. I just riveted it straight to the door frame with some foam tape in between, doesn't rattle at all (seriously, nothing)
honestly, i was really digging the fact you kept the speaker. ive never seen that on an e36. i may have to do that idea of cardboard.

[Mikestokman]

Speaker was easy too! Just made another template for that, cut it out of a sheet of like 1" plywood I think and ran 4 bolts with a nylock nut through everything. Then you just need to make another hole in the aluminum so the magnet can sit through it. Doesn't hit the door if you keep it in the stock location. I'm pretty sure I used 0.04" aluminum sheet metal for the skin and if you go to most sheet metal shops they will most likely have some scratched stuff that you could get for cheap/ free.

[Mikestokman]

Maintenance time!

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Valve cover gasket, inside was all clean and thats was a bit of a relief.

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Poly mounts that came in the car were ,so i made some at work based off the vorshlag design. also found out that the front subframe had the reinforcement tabs welded in already. bonus.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/1127E81A-8C39-412C-964A-3A813340F4CF_zpsjfqkbfze.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/1127E81A-8C39-412C-964A-3A813340F4CF_zpsjfqkbfze.jpg.html)

Oem tranny mounts were split too, so i made nylon ones of those too.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/37FB5BB1-3584-4AEC-BF3E-F5D8312CEDED_zpsqm511kwx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/37FB5BB1-3584-4AEC-BF3E-F5D8312CEDED_zpsqm511kwx.jpg.html)

And finally an e46 came into the scrap yard so i got some lca's. i modified a set of ground control camber plates for a friends e90 335i track car so he gave me his old ast top hats which i should be able to modify to work on my e36..
also ordered some delrin so i can make the lca lollipop bushing since I have seen how simple the ones that slr sells look to make.

And lastly, some pics from the last event. next event is on sunday so ill get to see if the stiff motor/trans mounts feel much better.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/4B7DE9A9-FFCB-43CE-B096-63C5A9713FA5_zpsk7yv8hhn.png (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/4B7DE9A9-FFCB-43CE-B096-63C5A9713FA5_zpsk7yv8hhn.png.html)

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[stealthbeam]

great progress! Looks like a blast

[Mikestokman]

So a little while ago I kindof jokingly suggested that someone send me some ebay angle kit specs. Kevin (tairyhesticles) shot me a message and some measurements and it kinda got the ball rolling. Originally I was just going to make an exact ebay replica, but then after looking at some pics of seans kit, i figured i could machine most of the parts myself at work, so I sent him a message seeing if i could just buy the block itself and make everything else and started building my stuff, by the time sean got a bit of free time to reply, i had already decided to just give it a shot at making everything myself so heres my attempt. (PLEASE NOTE:I never plan on selling these, basically just a one off pair to save myself some money/get creative with my build. i fully respect the time and r&d that goes into the slr kit.)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/303590A6-0741-4B79-8F9B-089CD19CF5A5_zpsorcffed9.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/303590A6-0741-4B79-8F9B-089CD19CF5A5_zpsorcffed9.jpg.html)

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http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/14A228E3-29B6-46D2-9EF9-EB3FF675E376_zpss2ehiivl.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/14A228E3-29B6-46D2-9EF9-EB3FF675E376_zpss2ehiivl.jpg.html)



Im pretty pumped on how its turning out so far. not entirely sure how my ackerman measurement i did is going to work out so if it doesnt self steer at all, ill probably slot the hole and make an offset washer like what it looks like the slr one does. all thats left is threading the bolts for the knuckle and then making the angle spacer look a bit nicer.

[Rustyfriend]

Gotta love making chips. Good work man!

[Mikestokman]

Gotta love making chips. Good work man!
Thanks! It's getting to the point where I'm happy with it. Probably install the arms and stuff next weekend when I can allign it, then it should be done for the rest of the drift season, then in the winter I'll tear the subframe out, mod the trailing arm bushing mount thing (mike_e36 style) and make new bushings for everything. Undecided if I should go delrin or solid aluminum for bushings but when the time comes ill research it more.

[Mikestokman]

made some progress...

rta bushings made and bracket modded as per beam_team and mikee36 advice/pics

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/109F7F14-6470-48A1-8436-5F838C219F7C_zpsedp2kvag.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/109F7F14-6470-48A1-8436-5F838C219F7C_zpsedp2kvag.jpg.html)

Angle kit thing finised

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/CCE05666-6EB8-422E-A386-7DBB9D5D65CB_zpswmbvmnfx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/CCE05666-6EB8-422E-A386-7DBB9D5D65CB_zpswmbvmnfx.jpg.html)

installed

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/DF4B3879-8BEE-4EE4-8751-2C9FE6C595E9_zpsvxxvbbgc.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/DF4B3879-8BEE-4EE4-8751-2C9FE6C595E9_zpsvxxvbbgc.jpg.html)

And I got an allignment done and it looks rad as bru!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/81B7B5EA-0AA3-4461-A249-EF88E895F0D6_zps23sejhyu.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/81B7B5EA-0AA3-4461-A249-EF88E895F0D6_zps23sejhyu.jpg.html)

need fender roller now, these are getting munched at lock so i cant go test it. boo.

[SoloKarter]

made some progress...

rta bushings made and bracket modded as per beam_team and mikee36 advice/pics

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/109F7F14-6470-48A1-8436-5F838C219F7C_zpsedp2kvag.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/109F7F14-6470-48A1-8436-5F838C219F7C_zpsedp2kvag.jpg.html)





Can you explain this a little more? Like what exactly did you do and why?

[Mikestokman]

Mikee36 also explains it a bit on page 56 of his build thread, but basically, the stock bracket is dimpled on both sides to center the bushing. When you play with your rear camber settings it adjusts your toe way in or out and the stock slotted holes aren't enough to get it remotely close to where it needs to be. So we cut out one side of the dimple, weld in a flat plate, and then use shims to offset the bushing in or out to where it needs to be.

And the bushings are just something I made at work because my stock ones were split, power flex ones are pretty cheap iirc.

[DjTyfighter]

:thumbup:

[mainuh325is]

Looks good man, I love how much the guys in the drift scene do things themselves. Your angle plates look good, but mounted the way they are you are actually increasing ackerman, I'm pretty sure you want less. As I understand it, too much ackerman causes the front tires to fight each other in a drift. Maybe one of the guys with more experience in this area could chime in?
Cheers either way

[Mikestokman]

Mounted the same way as an slr kit is so it has less Ackerman then stock. From my understanding, the tie rod and ball joint usually line up with the center of the rear end, the closer you bring that line to the rear wheel, the less Ackerman you have, making the outer wheel turn faster. I could be wrong but I was getting some helpful hints from someone who has modded plenty of 240 knuckles and they seem to work really well for the small bit I've played around with it on the street.

[Mikestokman]

First day i got to really thrash on the angle kit was at our second annual matsuri event. 2 days of continuous tandem trains and killing a large portion of our tire stockpiles. everything worked flawlessly.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/8926D5C2-71AB-4662-8B94-98789DA81EAE_zpspbdeedw6.jpg

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Managed to be the only car to come out completely unscathed after that event, did the final comp day of the year, learned to drift banks/ follow people on bank runs, and now its tome to rebuild and make it slightly better for next year.

So far the plans are fairly minimal, pull the rear subframe out and replace all the rubber bushings with aluminum, and pull the motor and seal up the few oil leaks and replace the vanos seal, make new shifter bushings, replace the guibo, just minor shit that i dont want to have to deal with next summer.

i get this "sweet" garage to work in all winter, not much but atleast its not covered in snow.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/E2320292-AE3C-42C2-9AE4-85F3F9E78BE7_zpswjbrj2fh.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/E2320292-AE3C-42C2-9AE4-85F3F9E78BE7_zpswjbrj2fh.jpg.html)


first mod of the winter is a new sparco sprint V, fits way better then the recaro knockoff i got for free like 2 years ago, looks way better too.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/7015F27B-EB9F-40A4-A11E-79D77011C483_zps3uxrmxft.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/7015F27B-EB9F-40A4-A11E-79D77011C483_zps3uxrmxft.jpg.html)

thats it for now, planning on pulling the rear end sometime this week so i can get started sooner rather then later.

[motomanb3]

how did you do the hood on the 318?

[Mikestokman]

how did you do the hood on the 318? angle grinder and a sharpie. literally just cut 3 lines and bent it in. did the same thing on the m3 hood for extra venting at 0 cost.

[Mikestokman]

Started off the winter by tearing out the rear end to do all the bushings i wanted to do during the summer, but just didnt have the down time to do so. Since I had to pull off the exhaust to get the subframe out I figured i might aswell chop out the cats and resonator and replace it with straight pipe.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/1374325_10204451685026426_6202160423365162040_n_zp s2dd7ac20.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/1374325_10204451685026426_6202160423365162040_n_zp s2dd7ac20.jpg.html)

Then i moved on to sand blasting and painting every arm and wire wheeling every bolt that came out of the rear end of the car. painted everything up and made some solid bushings. threw the bushings in a freezer for a couple hours, then pressed them in. not going anywhere any time soon..

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/10846423_10204506984848887_5017687079951066332_n_z ps921e89df.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/10846423_10204506984848887_5017687079951066332_n_z ps921e89df.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/13104_10204506985208896_5166833041896195601_n_zps1 6bac917.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/13104_10204506985208896_5166833041896195601_n_zps1 6bac917.jpg.html)


One of my aluminum camber arms for the rear seized at some point in between my first and second allignment last year so all i have left to do is re make the threaded shaft and then I can re-assemble the rear end and start working on pulling the motor and tranny, making all new shifter bushings, replacing my vanos seal and sealing up a few oil leaks. then paint the bay and put it all back together again.

[3184life]

Looking like a super solid car. Like you have replaced so many bushings with solid bushings, that you probably have way fewer parts on the car that can go wrong, what I want to do on my car.

Please don't paint the bay just black

[Mikestokman]

Looking like a super solid car. Like you have replaced so many bushings with solid bushings, that you probably have way fewer parts on the car that can go wrong, what I want to do on my car.

Please don't paint the bay just black

Thats the idea with making everything solid. I've had too many of the stock rubber ones fail on me at the track or on the street that i figured if I can lose a bit of comfort and gain more reliability then it's worth it. I still daily drive the car in the summer and honestly after about 1/2 an hour of driving I don't even notice the vibrations anymore.

As as for the engine bay I'm thinking of going with a dark gloss grey. We painted my friends engine bay with that and it turned out great.

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/10632785_10204514855165640_2351934756983909717_n_z ps0407b23c.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/10632785_10204514855165640_2351934756983909717_n_z ps0407b23c.jpg.html)

painted the subframe area, and everything fits great!

Then i got a bit buck with a can of spray paint and painted the wheel wells and everthing that gets hidden behind the bumper.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/10671330_10204520334862629_4697932013753740888_n_z ps0164a6c5.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/10671330_10204520334862629_4697932013753740888_n_z ps0164a6c5.jpg.html)

[e30junky]

Awesome thread man! I'm pumped to see more!

[Sean W]

I just read through your thread and it motivated me to get working on my e36 again.

Any pointers for drifting a 318? I have a 93 318is that I got for dirt cheap because I missed my old e36 and I wanted something to learn to drift in.

I now see the 1.8 is gutless as hell but I see people drifting it haha. Suggestions?

Whats are some good cheap/easy diy mods that I should start with?

Keep up the good work!



PS represent BC ;) haha

[Mikestokman]

I just read through your thread and it motivated me to get working on my e36 again.

Any pointers for drifting a 318? I have a 93 318is that I got for dirt cheap because I missed my old e36 and I wanted something to learn to drift in.

I now see the 1.8 is gutless as hell but I see people drifting it haha. Suggestions?

Whats are some good cheap/easy diy mods that I should start with?

Keep up the good work!



PS represent BC ;) haha the 1.8 is pretty useless, but weld the diff, make a decent hydro ebrake, pump your tires up to like 60 and just go have fun. An m50 isn't too expensive. I couldn't link the track at all in my 318 and would spin almost every time, but at the minimum it should teach you a bit of car control so when you do hop into a more powerful car you'll have a better understanding of what to do to hold a line. If you ever have any other technical questions or whatever feel free to pm me!

[stancyeze]

I'm running the same front suspension set up and it feels awesome.. although I still need a real alignment haha.

When deleting the cats, did you feel a torque lose? I had to take off my muffler a couple weeks ago and I drove it down the road to see how it sounded and I felt like it had a little bit less high end power than usual, but I would really like to delete the cats.

[Mikestokman]

Haven't driven the car at all in months, so I couldn't tell ya. But there's enough people running actual straight pipes without mufflers that I doubt it makes a big difference. If you ran open header that would mean that your O2 sensor was doing nothing so it was probably running on the rich side which would loose power.

[Mikestokman]

So pretty much the only thing I really broke in the rear end last year was my camber arm, I guess the previous owner who installed them didn't believe in neversieze. Oops....

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/F7A0EBBF-CA5F-4319-8700-05FD6967A1D5_zps5u4qmbja.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/F7A0EBBF-CA5F-4319-8700-05FD6967A1D5_zps5u4qmbja.jpg.html)
So I made a new arm out of stainless, cleaned up the remaining threads in the end, and put it back together with a bunch of neversieze.


Also got got the rear end all back together. Putting clean parts back together is so much nicer.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/92662195-6DF6-4E87-97A0-47E53A55AEC0_zpsaizquao8.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/92662195-6DF6-4E87-97A0-47E53A55AEC0_zpsaizquao8.jpg.html)

[Mikestokman]

I'm really bad at build threads haha...

So, last year pretty much since the first time I drove the car in February, the shift linkage was sloppy and even locked me out of 4th at one point. Since Im on the theme of fixing shit, that got added to the list.

Started off by bucking off the rubber filled shift knob arm or whatever you want to call it and welding on a a solid steel one. Thought about threading it, but theres literally no point because the shift knob attaches with set screws anyways..

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/7EF6A9B3-2ABE-48B8-9D20-A59C471AF789_zps10gue3ua.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/7EF6A9B3-2ABE-48B8-9D20-A59C471AF789_zps10gue3ua.jpg.html)

Then i pressed out the nylon bushing in the bottom and pressed in stainless steel ones. I have stainless bushings in my winter car and they're great.

But making just that solid wouldn't solve my problem. Google told me that people buy uuc dssr's to fix sloppy shifter issues, but that money could be better spent on tires this summer, so I made a similar version. It's not as fancy looking but I didn't really want to spend a ton of time making it because now I'm focusing on refreshing the motor. Should work just as good and that's all that matters.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/0A708B79-88B8-4C04-B64B-059F6444B8C0_zpsofmhar3i.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/0A708B79-88B8-4C04-B64B-059F6444B8C0_zpsofmhar3i.jpg.html)

bolted everything up to my spare transmission and it all fits really well. Will bolt it up to the real tranny when I pull everything out this weekend.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/51114EA9-89C3-4D83-981A-0D0C9F9F9F11_zpsmnsxlob4.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/51114EA9-89C3-4D83-981A-0D0C9F9F9F11_zpsmnsxlob4.jpg.html)

thats all for now, like I said, hoping to pull the motor/tranny this weekend then I can paint the bay, freshen up everything on the motor, and redo my vanos seal as I'm pretty sure it leaks internally..

[DavidD123]

Absolutely love the "make it myself to save money for events/important things" attitude!! I'm the same way and love seeing others like it! The DSSR looks great and I was thinking of doing something similar to my shifter recently. Let me know if you feel a difference!

[Mikestokman]

Absolutely love the "make it myself to save money for events/important things" attitude!! I'm the same way and love seeing others like it! The DSSR looks great and I was thinking of doing something similar to my shifter recently. Let me know if you feel a difference! it'll be a while before I can give you a real world review on it, but if you look at the uuc site they explain with .gif's how the dssr is better then stock linkage so I just kept the tolerance really tight and it should work well. And for the hour I spent making that one there's really not much to loose.

[WildXride]

What hydro ebrake are you running?

[Mikestokman]

Homemade. Eg civic clutch master cylinder, handle I built at work, and a bracket I made that bolts on to the tunnel rather then being welded on. Just runs in line to the rear brakes.

[Mikestokman]

So, pulled the motor out last week, cleaned everything and bought some rattle cans. Chose a glossy grey because I think it will contrast well with the mostly black motor.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/7AFEC8C2-8EC6-499C-80ED-64DBEF34DEF2_zpsw0hfgvhu.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/7AFEC8C2-8EC6-499C-80ED-64DBEF34DEF2_zpsw0hfgvhu.jpg.html)

then took the motor to my friends garage to tear it apart and simplify coolant lines. Found out both my knock sensors are destroyed and that probably explains a few running issues I had before I parked the car. (Speedhunters street car of the year 2010 in the background )

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/86D627B0-9BB9-4D13-B821-03F50B3089E3_zpslbejwl1l.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/86D627B0-9BB9-4D13-B821-03F50B3089E3_zpslbejwl1l.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/33FF8D55-3807-420D-9D52-BA537715B237_zps0rdinzwc.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/33FF8D55-3807-420D-9D52-BA537715B237_zps0rdinzwc.jpg.html)

so probably going to make a big rockauto order for gaskets then buy a fx clutch/flywheel because dual mass ones seem really dumb for drifting.

[Mikestokman]

Cutch is ordered, took an entire bottle of superclean and 3 cans of brakeclean with a wire brush to everything on the motor. Pulled off the pan and valve cover, cleaned and resealed. Also pulled out all the exhaust studs, wire wheeled them, then put em back in the head. Just need to make a list of things to order and it's ready to go back together!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/10CBB0EB-8A83-4A30-A807-B6FAC38315DC_zps9enudpqf.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/10CBB0EB-8A83-4A30-A807-B6FAC38315DC_zps9enudpqf.jpg.html)

next thing I want to do is figure out where to run my oil temp and pressure senders. I'm thinking tapped vanos banjo bolt with a braided line to a remote bracket for the pressure sender, and tap either the block or the oil filter housing somewhere where the temp sender will be in constant flow for a more accurate reading.

[Mikestokman]

Bolted up the "dssr" and linkage up to my trans, and it feels so good! 100% less sloppy then oem. Goes into all the gears very nice. cant wait to really road test it!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/773BC4F6-299D-48FF-ACF8-3066034BF39F_zpsqua0o7zt.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/773BC4F6-299D-48FF-ACF8-3066034BF39F_zpsqua0o7zt.jpg.html)

then ordered a bunch of gaskets and shit so now i can start reassembling it. Im happy with how its looking and working on clean things is so much nicer. well worth the hours and hours ive spent with a wire brush. up to 2 bottles of superclean and 6-7 cans of brake cleen...

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/EF403F5C-41C0-477E-B964-6D780DF46D1A_zpstzftb4el.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/EF403F5C-41C0-477E-B964-6D780DF46D1A_zpstzftb4el.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/E446F1EE-4467-4D22-8A90-F2E581A547FD_zpszkhtavfz.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/E446F1EE-4467-4D22-8A90-F2E581A547FD_zpszkhtavfz.jpg.html)

So in my last post i mentioned oil pressure and temp gauges, well, here we go. i didnt want to spend a ton of money on and oil cap or a bunch of time making a adapter plate to relocate the factory idiot pressure light, so after some not so careful consideration and seeing a couple products come up in other threads, we decided to tap the housing for a temp gauge and then weld a -3 an line on it so i can remote mount the sender like i wanted. i think it should work well!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/DCE0786C-13C0-4F48-BD91-2F677C44CBBE_zpsjm3muoto.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/DCE0786C-13C0-4F48-BD91-2F677C44CBBE_zpsjm3muoto.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/609554C4-77DA-4B7B-ABEE-325CCCE2D75C_zpsv7fbypn4.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/609554C4-77DA-4B7B-ABEE-325CCCE2D75C_zpsv7fbypn4.jpg.html)

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/79963889-355A-48FF-818D-D76F21EE6A2D_zpsii9ma4ck.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/79963889-355A-48FF-818D-D76F21EE6A2D_zpsii9ma4ck.jpg.html)

clutch showed up today! I'm excited to get rid of the stock dual mass

[Mikestokman]

I decided to reupholster my old drivers seat to use for the passenger, turned out quite well and now the interior is done!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/36ED4CC3-42FE-4F84-BB0B-AB5F1CCBD108_zpsop1oifvl.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/36ED4CC3-42FE-4F84-BB0B-AB5F1CCBD108_zpsop1oifvl.jpg.html)

[Rustyfriend]

Love the door card man. I need to get me some of those!

[Mikestokman]

They're pretty ghetto but i needed something that wouldn't hit my seat. It's just a sheet of 0.06 aluminum riveted on the door with a handle and speaker box, because I still daily it haha.

[Substance D]

DUDE....How is the lock kit? hard to tell from the pics but looks like a massive reduction in Ackerman, like almost 0, looks like a little less than the SLR kit...hows it feel? self steer and all that jazz?

[Mikestokman]

Angles kit feels/works great for just drilling a pretty much random hole in a piece of metal. Still self steers and everything like a normal car would, except now I can huck the car into a corner hard and not run out of angle. I drove with a friend who has a part shop Max kit in his s13 and he said it easily has as much angle as his car. Slr kit definatly has more adjustment and is way more fine tuned then the one I made, but for costing me 68$, this works pretty damn well.

[e30 394]

Is that the ceramic clutch? let me know how you like it. How long did it take to ship? i need to order mine soon.

[Mikestokman]

It's the "stage 4" off gripforce.com if I could order again I would get the stage 3 just to have a sprung clutch, but this will work. Took exactly a week to ship into Canada

[jjjjjjj]

Nice clutch especially for the money! I have the stage 3 on my daily driven turbo e36. It's tough enough I really couldn't imagine the stage 4 being much more difficult. Just made a clutch stop and all is good with the uuc suggested atf fluid mix

[Mikestokman]

Yeah ideally I wanted the sprung disk but I didn't read good enough when I ordered. Oh well. In the end I am building a racecar, not a comfortable daily driver, so I feel like as long as it benefits me on track, I will be able to live with the consequences of daily driving it. If it's really tough to drive it will just be motivation to get my Subaru build done quicker aswell haha.

[Mikestokman]

Knock sensors from Ecstuning came yesterday so I could reassemble the last bit of the motor.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/CD0B8949-87D4-492B-9477-FCF58F39272A_zpsqrllfpyn.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/CD0B8949-87D4-492B-9477-FCF58F39272A_zpsqrllfpyn.jpg.html)

just ordered 3 sets of tires and a small group of us rented out the track for a day in April so should be a good shakedown day to get used to how it drives with solid mounted everything.

[Spitfire8o5]

Awesome thread man, I actually just installed that exact clutch/flywheel on my car lol. Was surprised that it doesn't sound really bad at idle like rumors say about most single mass flywheels out there. Barely 40 miles into the break in process. Not as harsh as I thought it was going to be. Almost disappointing to be honest. But I hope it will grab and last a while!

[Mikestokman]

Thanks! I'm really hoping to have the motor back in this weekend and driving by sometime next week. I'm going through withdrawls of tire smoke...

[Mikestokman]

Well, I'm ahead of schedule for this week.

clutch on;

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tranmission fluid changed to the uuc mix and installed;

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and just like that, motor is back in the car!


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[Mikestokman]

And now it runs too! Bolted up the driveshaft, exhaust, steering rack, added oils, and learned a valuable lesson about bleeding clutches by exploding my slave cylinder inside the bell housing. Oops. All good now, engages and disengages perfectly and is almost ready to go back on the ground. Getting excited

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[Mikestokman]

Runs and drives and does everything without any hesitation or hiccups now! No leaks from what I've seen either which is nice. Now off to the alignment rack..


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[Mikestokman]

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all bolted up now! So excited to allign and drive it. track is rented out for April 11 and there's another drift day on the 26th, should be fully ready by then

[Mikestokman]

Well the car works, and it works really really well.... lightweight flywheel/clutch and the solid bushings make the car feel waaaay better.

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And a good friend of mine wanted to do some stance photos of my car. he waited until after out private day where logan noel (purple legacy) had basically been rubbing my entire car with his bumper and front wheels for 8 hours straight. repainted a bit of the bottom half of the car and it was good to go!

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next drift day is may 23. i have a really good feeling that qualifying will go well for me this time.

[zparkere30]

Hell yeah man. I love this thread.. Quick question about the runnin the hydro lines.. Did you have the flare the ends before putting the fittings on and tee-ing them?

[Mikestokman]

Yeah I just bought a cheap flaring kit and practiced until I could be sure they wouldn't leak. You can buy pre flared lines from auto parts stores, but either way you'll have to flare the oem lines in the car to attach them to the hydro

[zparkere30]

Yeah that's what I did for the most part. I just can't find a bubble flare tool anywhere around town so I just might have to order one.

[audioscience10]

Yeah that's what I did for the most part. I just can't find a bubble flare tool anywhere around town so I just might have to order one.
For bubble flares I just use a double flare tool and don't do the last step.

[Mikestokman]

I single flared all my shit and it hasn't leaked in 3 years. Plus this hydro setup was in my last car too and it didn't leak in there either.

[Mikestokman]

Been a while...

Comp day: qualified 4th, went omt in top 8 then placed 3rd, Blew my head gasket in the process.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/97D72704-2217-4BA8-9CDA-77F5DCFD135E_zps4bqsndx7.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/97D72704-2217-4BA8-9CDA-77F5DCFD135E_zps4bqsndx7.jpg.html)

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borrowed a friends trailer and towed it to my dads house for tear down

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Ended up taking 0.013 off the head, drove it around with no issues whatsoever, and it was time for drift Union matsuri, 2 days of tandem and party.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/824CE57F-B969-40D6-AA07-9CA17E03CC3A_zpsxyuksi1p.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/824CE57F-B969-40D6-AA07-9CA17E03CC3A_zpsxyuksi1p.jpg.html)

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headgasket definatly fixed my water temp issues. Car never hit anything above 205 unless we were hot lapping, where it went to 220. Oil temp was warm all weekend, so I'm making an oil cooler and I'll post pics once I get it back from the welding shop.

[zparkere30]

Pretty sick man. I wish mine was this clean lol. Have you ran a hydro in it yet?

[Mikestokman]

You were literally asking me about my hydro on the last page so.... Yes?

[zparkere30]

Oh I forgot about that ha ha. My bad. Are running a 0.625 mc? I've read that the 0.7 ones that I have are too big and that's why it's not locking up.

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/0BD9A7E3-844B-48A0-8FBF-279A6D43FC18_zpsoleikt5c.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/0BD9A7E3-844B-48A0-8FBF-279A6D43FC18_zpsoleikt5c.jpg.html)

honda civic clutch master. 5/8" bore. Move your pivot point if it's not locking, or you have your lines hooked up wrong. This exact setup can lock 245's up in a straight line with no effort

[zparkere30]

Ah okay.. Well I found a write up and the guy said to run one brake line the (H) port on the mc to the rear port on the hydro and to run another one from the front port of the hydro to the abs.

[jalopi]

ay guy, dope build. you certainly seem quicker at making shit from scratch than i am :)

can i get your front wheel specs please? i'm having an insane amount of trouble with wheel clearance on my build after lengthening my control arms, though i might be rocking too much front wheel/tire (235/40/17 9.5 et -13)

[Mikestokman]

I've been doing machinist things since I was like 12 years old so it all just comes with practice haha. Front wheels are 17x7+20 with 215/40/17 tires on it. They touch the lca slightly at lock but not enough to grab/notice. Will be changing front wheels to a pair of advans next year that are 17x8+13, so everything should be pretty much the same. Lca is stock e46 arm with a spherical bushing pressed in the end for my angle kit

[jalopi]

weird, for some reason they looked wider than that to me

after lengthening my control arms i don't have issues rubbing the frame rails any more, but holy crap do i rub the front of the wheel well. thinking i'm gonna have to completely remove it. ever seen anyone do this in person? the only thing i can find online is chelsea's car

550275

[Mikestokman]

Running a -13 wheel will give you a much larger scrub radius, that would be my guess as to why it hits there

[Mikestokman]

Car got some paint to be matchy Matchy with my team

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/BF490C42-D6A5-4BBC-BBB6-72227F1BBE56_zpsdu6metqm.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/BF490C42-D6A5-4BBC-BBB6-72227F1BBE56_zpsdu6metqm.jpg.html)

then we partied for the last dday of the year. It was a comp day, I qualified second and my teammate with the r32 got 8th, but we didn't really give a shit about that, we just wanted to tandem.

)http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/8CA7605F-E8FF-4056-B875-6A2A0095FD03_zpsjyb9yzey.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/8CA7605F-E8FF-4056-B875-6A2A0095FD03_zpsjyb9yzey.jpg.html)

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[jalopi]

the two tone paintjob actually looks pretty good. never seen one like that on an e36

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D844C553-4222-42B6-840A-51350B80093C_zpsa4g0o2p6.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D844C553-4222-42B6-840A-51350B80093C_zpsa4g0o2p6.jpg.html)

yeah, the two tone was just kinda for fun at first but I really like it now

[DenKare]

More details on your hood vent please

[Mikestokman]

More details on your hood vent please
Super simple to make, just cut 3 lines with an angle grinder and bend it down. Mine opens right behind the rad to draw out hot air, and I just had to notch part of the bent part to clear the rad cap

[JesterMX6]

Super simple to make, just cut 3 lines with an angle grinder and bend it down. Mine opens right behind the rad to draw out hot air, and I just had to notch part of the bent part to clear the rad cap

nice!

[Mikestokman]

http://youtu.be/6qt9uyQDGV8

couple clips from me and my teammate made it into the "year end edit"

[ILoveDrifting]

Heyyy we have the same car! Thanks for the detailed build thread, I'm taking notes!!

[e30 394]

That was a great video, Love how your cars been coming together man, Have you had an axle issues?

[Mikestokman]

Thanks! No issues with axles so far, or the diff for that matter. Stock m3 axles and stock 3.15 lsd, still locks good. Only rear end related things I've broken were 3 axle bolts stripped last winter and got replaced with Allen head bolts, and before the last event I snapped the front diff bolt so now I run a 1/2" bolt all the way through the bushing and housing and a nut on the other side.

[Mikestokman]

Over the last few events I ran into some oil temp issues, so rather then buy the Achilles motor sports cooler block, I'm gonna try my own version.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/04B635A2-43A9-4A82-8C88-A6B2FB7AEE1B_zpsltbsdqad.jpg


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[ButteDorFrank]

pretty sweet build, I like how you built everything yourself ! ... do you still have the trans am wheels you were rocking on the 318 ? if so, why aren't you using them, or sell them to me ! haha ... I liked how the red and black two tone looked , teal is nice too I guess ...

one other thing I noticed (maybe it was just a bad picture angle) but it seems like the roll cage is pretty far from the roof, and it looked like the headliner was still installed ?
I am wondering why you didn't strip the interior and try to make the cage fit tighter against the chassis and tie it in ?

also wondering why not strip the interior to save some weight ? I junked an e36 and the carpet is so thick and heavy, with so much sound deadening, you can shave LOTS of weight and would probably make the car feel much better ...

keep the updates coming, maybe one day I'll have my car ready and bring it out to BC !

[Mikestokman]

Haha thanks. Trans am wheels wouldn't clear the m3 brakes so I sold them. I liked the red too but it was time for a change and I like the blue aswell (not teal ;) )

headliner is is still in the car because I still street it and aesthetically it is more appealing. Cage fits super tight to b pillars and roof so I'm guessing you saw a bad angle.

Same story with the carpet. 50% of people I talk to that strip their cars regret it, plus that little bit of weight savings isn't worth it to me. Sure it's heavy but the comfort aspect is worth it. If I don't notice a difference in drifting by myself vs with a passenger under 250lbs, then I'm not going to notice a difference on the weight saved by taking the carpet out.

[ButteDorFrank]

Haha thanks. Trans am wheels wouldn't clear the m3 brakes so I sold them. I liked the red too but it was time for a change and I like the blue aswell (not teal ;) )

headliner is is still in the car because I still street it and aesthetically it is more appealing. Cage fits super tight to b pillars and roof so I'm guessing you saw a bad angle.

Same story with the carpet. 50% of people I talk to that strip their cars regret it, plus that little bit of weight savings isn't worth it to me. Sure it's heavy but the comfort aspect is worth it. If I don't notice a difference in drifting by myself vs with a passenger under 250lbs, then I'm not going to notice a difference on the weight saved by taking the carpet out.

that is a very valid point ... I will keep that in mind when time comes with mine, if the carpet still fits I'll put it in.

what lug nuts were you using to bolt up the trans am wheels ? I have some 15x8 1980 - 1981 trans am turbo wheels for my beater but the lug hole is not tapered or ball type, it's just a big square ... or had you machined something yourself to make em fit ?

[Mikestokman]

The rikens were factory tapered so I just ran stock lug nuts and then my blackworx racing ones when I converted to wheel studs

[ButteDorFrank]

The rikens were factory tapered so I just ran stock lug nuts and then my blackworx racing ones when I converted to wheel studs

Urghh !! ... mine are the square type, I don't know what I'll be able to do to run them ... 5x120 vs 5.120.7 ... lots of debate over this on the internet ...

[jalopi]

it's really more like 5x120 vs 5x4.75 (4.75 inch = almost 120.7mm)

the difference is really negligible. there's a small army of keyboard physicists/engineers that say otherwise, but that hasn't stopped people from successfully using corvette wheels on e36s for years now. i've personally been rocking 5x4.75 wheels for about 3 years now, the tapers on the wheels still look fine

[Mikestokman]

Rikens were 120.7, My bolt on adapters I run in the front are 120.7 no issues ever

[ButteDorFrank]

oh yeah I would totally rock them too if they were tapered, I'm just concerned about putting a tapered bolt to hold a square hole ... that just sounds sketchy, the surface of contact will be so minimal ...

[jalopi]

what are these square wheel stud holes you're talking about? i'm confused. got pictures?

[ButteDorFrank]

I don't have pictures of my own wheel, but on google I found this : https://www.google.ca/search?q=1980+trans+am+wheel+nut&rlz=1C1EODB_enCA549CA549&espv=2&biw=1517&bih=741&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAWoVChMIjdzMwf_6yAIVgpSICh1k0we3&dpr=0.9#imgrc=_

which the nuts should be something like this :
http://www.pro-touring.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=60796&d=1339857002http://contentinfo.autozone.com/znetcs/product-info/en/US/drm/611-117.1/image/2/

and the wheel is this model :
http://www.autopartsdb.net/assets/images/ProductImg/1/10013036_v2.jpg

I don't know what to do or where to get the material to mount them ... I don't really know even where to look for something like it ...

[jalopi]

aaah, those are "shank" style lugnuts. 9/10 of every toyota made in the past 30 years (made up statistic but probably true) uses that style lug nut

i think toyota lug nuts have the same thread pitch as BMWs, so you'd need to convert to the right length stud and get a set of toyota lug nuts to rock those wheels

also, that wheel is dope as shit, what kind is it?

[ButteDorFrank]

aaah, those are "shank" style lugnuts. 9/10 of every toyota made in the past 30 years (made up statistic but probably true) uses that style lug nut

i think toyota lug nuts have the same thread pitch as BMWs, so you'd need to convert to the right length stud and get a set of toyota lug nuts to rock those wheels

also, that wheel is dope as shit, what kind is it?

It's a secret ! hahaha nah it is a 1980 - 1981 trans am turbo wheel called Turbine ... 15x8 et0 ...

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/gallery.php/d/451103-2/trans_am_20th_turbo_pace_1.jpg

[Mikestokman]

Make your own thread stop cluttering my build thread.....

[jalopi]

http://i.bittwiddlers.org/K7G.gif

[Mikestokman]

This entire page is about some trans am wheels and lug nuts that I do not own, so...

[jalopi]

threads derail sometimes. but more importantly, useful information was posted. which is the whole point of a forum. don't like it? oh well, you're not the center of our universes, deal with it. if you're looking to gain fanboys that will feverishly jerk off to your every status update, this probably isn't the place to do that. i hear some people have had pretty good luck with twitter recently though


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXQkXXBqj_U

[Mikestokman]

Lol I don't give a shit. I'm just saying rather then talk about random shit in a build thread that it makes no sense in, go post in the wheels and tires section.

[ButteDorFrank]

Lol I don't give a shit. I'm just saying rather then talk about random shit in a build thread that it makes no sense in, go post in the wheels and tires section.

well you asked for pictures but whatever ... sorry for threadjacking your thread ... just thought you could of known a solution because you had transam wheels. and I do have my own thread, although not everyone sees every thread posted on the forum ...

[Mikestokman]

Update:

oil cooler is mounted, everything clears and bolts up nicely. Going to mount a computer fan to the back of the cooler and mount a small duct to the bumper to direct airflow up a bit more.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/6415630F-DC2A-42F1-A27A-10252E24A1D0_zpsdwtt67lu.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/6415630F-DC2A-42F1-A27A-10252E24A1D0_zpsdwtt67lu.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/C1691A4F-4930-412A-822F-5FCA944EF312_zpswg5l8if5.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/C1691A4F-4930-412A-822F-5FCA944EF312_zpswg5l8if5.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/59C32909-8C99-480F-AD5E-AFE25E9B9CA3_zps368xbgov.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/59C32909-8C99-480F-AD5E-AFE25E9B9CA3_zps368xbgov.jpg.html)


Made rear tophats as the oe ones were . Hks tophats trimmed to fit.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/BB6BFF60-B734-4511-AC1C-4864FC22C282_zps5riztj7p.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/BB6BFF60-B734-4511-AC1C-4864FC22C282_zps5riztj7p.jpg.html)

Got new steer wheels for next year, Advan kreuzer V, 17x8+13 after adapter wrapped in 215/40/17 triangle 968

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/7381F088-C6FC-4E0D-8711-784F65949E2D_zpsjpa2cdcx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/7381F088-C6FC-4E0D-8711-784F65949E2D_zpsjpa2cdcx.jpg.html)

Made a new solid mounted shifter to try out next year, throw is adjustable right now, but if that feels flexy then I will re make the bottom mount out of a solid piece of steel at whatever length I need.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/04DC9B01-9ED1-42AB-88AA-4E393214CB26_zpsl1wgf0f1.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/04DC9B01-9ED1-42AB-88AA-4E393214CB26_zpsl1wgf0f1.jpg.html)

also got a new passenger seat, dimensionally it's the same as the sprint, and now I can mount a good harness through it without hassle.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D03A3669-7C27-4833-802C-C6C4B9AEF9BB_zpsr4rmwhty.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D03A3669-7C27-4833-802C-C6C4B9AEF9BB_zpsr4rmwhty.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/516C7866-8A27-4967-81E6-1E0F4F097964_zps4fvleezb.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/516C7866-8A27-4967-81E6-1E0F4F097964_zps4fvleezb.jpg.html)

[fmn716]

Hi bru, love this build, could you possible take a pic of the height of the gear lever with the gearknob

thanks

[Mikestokman]

Haven't updated in a while.. Had to move so threw the car back together and didn't get around to installing the shifter yet. Figure I'll drive it as is for the event at the end of this month then change it out. I forgot how awful the stock one is compared to my subaru... Did manage to get the oil cooler all done though, looks neat, temps are down while driving and doesn't appear to leak anymore (had a weld with a pinhole, all fixed now). Still need to install a little shroud for it off the bumper and a fan on the backside for cooling if/when needed. But it's ready enough for the first day of the season!

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/29C1D551-8C1C-4D99-8161-F5AF1412D6CE_zpsh736riyp.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/29C1D551-8C1C-4D99-8161-F5AF1412D6CE_zpsh736riyp.jpg.html)
Can sorta spot the cooler through the driver side brake duct


http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/A365CFC2-314C-47BF-BF66-19D59239B4E7_zpsfwkhp9hx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/A365CFC2-314C-47BF-BF66-19D59239B4E7_zpsfwkhp9hx.jpg.html)

[Mikestokman]

So the first event went super good, sweet tandems, getting all over people's doors all day. temps stayed super low with the new cooler and nothing leaked so I'd say big success.

I've been a big advocate for keeping cars simple, keeping the hobby cheap, and driving with close to stock power until your driving skill outweighs the power of the car, and based on the last event I feel like I'm getting to that point now, so I picked up this:

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/ED3B9A3E-B328-44E7-95E1-B09530297AE5_zpspdqtruhp.png (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/ED3B9A3E-B328-44E7-95E1-B09530297AE5_zpspdqtruhp.png.html)

2003 Chevy lm7 out of a 1/2 ton Yukon. Gonna slowly refresh it, make all the accessory brackets myself, make my own motor/trans mounts, and basically buy the least amount of stuff nessacary to make it run. Not 100% sure of what trans I want to run, but I saw that abc clutch makes a ls-BMW trans adapter, and I have 2 zf trans and access to high tech CNC equipment, so I feel like that might be the route I go. If it doesn't work then I'll barely be out any money, and in the mean time it saves me from having to buy a completely new trans setup and clutch/flywheel shit and parts like that. Should be fun and I love the fact that gm shit is almost always in stock at parts stores so I don't have to worry about bringing every spare when I travel to events.

[beat328i]

Solid drifting philosophy! Too many people get lost in the build aiming for ridiculous horsepower numbers and building their cars to formula drift spec, but don't get any seat time while their car sits in the garage. While that's all well and good if you're already a pro, it just makes the car more difficult to learn on, and teaches some bad habits. For instance, I know a guy who's first mod was a hydro, and he literally cannot initiate without it... anyhow... good luck with the zf adapter, I'm anxious to see how this turns out!

P.S. Inb4 Jalopi asks whether you plan on running accusump on your LSx swapped bmw lol

[protomor]

You oil starve a V8 once and you become an oiling fiend. I can see why though lol.

[jalopi]

so how bout dem accusumps

:)

[Mikestokman]

Funny you should say that, I have a friend who has been building an 800hp 2jz s13 with a dogbox, his own version of wisefab knuckles/control arms, rear rad, tube frame, pretty much anything you'd find on a pro car, and he has driven a total of 1.5 laps in 3 years. Meanwhile I've driven all but 2 events in my car, gotten to be a way better driver then I honestly thought would be possible, and have had a ton of fun along the way.

As for accusump, I've been reading just about everyone's build threads, and have a couple friends who have lsx drift cars and most people either have a baffle installed in their pan, or run an accusump. If I can find a used accusump I'll definitely run one, if not I'll look into a cheaper baffle option for the time being. I'd hate to wipe out a motor due to oiling, but if I do the motor only cost $300 so it's not the end of the world.

[beat328i]

It sounds like your friend is "lost in the build". This article is pretty accurate, so I try to distribute it as much as possible lol:

http://scrapedcrusaders.com/2015/01/07/getting-lost-in-the-build/

[Novablue454]

I went with the trap door baffle from Holley. I only have one event on the car, and some hard canyon driving and my oil pressure has never dropped. If you were building a pro-am + level car I'd say do an accusump, but the trap door has been working great for me so far.

[jalopi]

It sounds like your friend is "lost in the build". This article is pretty accurate, so I try to distribute it as much as possible lol:

http://scrapedcrusaders.com/2015/01/07/getting-lost-in-the-build/

that right there is good advice

for example, i saw a video from hyperfest rapper dan posted on his wall the other day. for those who don't know the name, he used to drive for sikky until they pulled out of FD. anyway, he's got a stock KA'd s13 with some insane rear gear (4.9 i think he said?) and he was running with a 300hp 1jz s14 and a monstrous 800-900hp ls something s14. the other cars did make more smoke and were faster on straighter sections, but it didn't look like they were dusting him too bad

i guess what i'm getting at is the 260hp those 5.3's put down might not impress people as much as a 800hp 2j, but the more i see the more i'm convinced that as long as you have good torque there's no need for insane power figures

even so, apparently even a mild cam really wakes those 5.3s up and puts em into the mid 300s :D

[Mikestokman]

Factory this one makes 285hp (probably at the crank) and I'm sure I can do some minor bolt ons and a hp tuners tune and it will be 300+ and that's all I'm shooting for. I want to make Murcia noises, and maybe a bit more smoke without breaking the bank year after year on tires, plus when the motor breaks parts are more readily available, which is sweet.

As for what you were saying, at the last event I was keeping up with 450hp 13b rx7's, and a crate ls1 s13 with no issues. I had to jump the start line a bit to keep up with them on the straight, but after initiation I could stay pretty much on their door for the rest of the run. As long as they kept a consistent speed it was pretty easy, where they would loose me is when they fuck up and toss it in with too much angle, slow down, then get back on it and pull a gap on me I couldn't catch back up. But like theres not much I can do about that with a stock s50...

[jalopi]

a facebook friend who just 5.3'd his car got it dyno'd at 260ish wheel, bone stock. i saw something on the internet once where a dude used one of those fancy FAST intakes and a comp cam and put down 400 on an engine dyno... so figure 350 in the real world?

[Novablue454]

Cams make a huge difference. I was reading cam shootouts yesterday and there's a comp that made +109hp on a stock ls1 on the engine dyno. Cam/Valvetrain upgrade, good headers, LS6 intake, and a good tune and you'll likely be more then happy with it.

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/engines-drivetrain/1104gmhtp-ls1-camshaft-dyno-test/

[doktor b]

a facebook friend who just 5.3'd his car got it dyno'd at 260ish wheel, bone stock. i saw something on the internet once where a dude used one of those fancy FAST intakes and a comp cam and put down 400 on an engine dyno... so figure 350 in the real world?
http://www.trucktrend.com/how-to/engine/1208tr-5-3l-bow-tie-builds-mild-to-wild/
this article?


Cams make a huge difference. I was reading cam shootouts yesterday and there's a comp that made +109hp on a stock ls1 on the engine dyno. Cam/Valvetrain upgrade, good headers, LS6 intake, and a good tune and you'll likely be more then happy with it.

http://www.superchevy.com/how-to/engines-drivetrain/1104gmhtp-ls1-camshaft-dyno-test/
this is how it starts.
then, you end up with where i am. i have a LM4 that i'm currently porting the heads on while i save up for all the other 'while i'm in there' parts i can't currently afford, but have convinced myself i need because i'm starting with a <LS1 engine.

[Mikestokman]

Fortunately I'm pretty good at staying away from the "while I'm in there" thoughts, I'm probably just going to go with ls6 valve springs a make sure every part is fresh and clean before I seal it up. Maybe down the road I'll do a cam and stuff but for now I'm sure it will be fun in stock form, for now...

[doktor b]

Fortunately I'm pretty good at staying away from the "while I'm in there" thoughts, I'm probably just going to go with ls6 valve springs a make sure every part is fresh and clean before I seal it up. Maybe down the road I'll do a cam and stuff but for now I'm sure it will be fun in stock form, for now...
you're a better man than i am.
every project i start i end up losing my damned mind.
but i have the backing (emotional. not financial) of my wife. so i see them thru. just takes a little longer than planned.

[jalopi]

aren't the stock rod bolts one of the weak links on those truck engines too? i hear they like to let go if you're keen on banging the rev limiter for too long

[doktor b]

aren't the stock rod bolts one of the weak links on those truck engines too? i hear they like to let go if you're keen on banging the rev limiter for too long
they're not the very best.
there's much debate about dropping in a set of ARPs without resizing the big end. most i've seen/read say to just throw them in for peace of mind. but there are always the 'do it right' guys who freak out and say that the higher clamping force of the better bolts deform the big end. (of rods with likely 100k miles on them using the same, stock bearings like it really matters.)
the ARPs cost ~$125. a new 5.3 longblock is $300-800 depending on what you get and a short block is even cheaper. and those are junkyard prices. a lot of small displacement LS truck motors go for less than that from person to person.

really, it depends on each person.

and if OP plans to use the stock cam or an LS6 cam, i don't think the motor will stay high enough in the rpm range to overstress the factory rod bolts.

[Mikestokman]

So over the long weekend our local track hosted the drift Union invitational, which is one of the biggest events in western Canada, my weekend started off rough by popping out a frost plug from my oil cooler block 3 laps into the day, so I swapped the stock filter housing back on and got back out there, really just happy I didn't loose the motor when all the oil poured out of it. After that everything went really smooth. It wasn't super hot out and the car cooled perfectly which was nice considering that's the killer of most cars at that event. The big media dumps haven't dropped yet, but here's a couple pics and the aftermovie.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/F0520FD2-D050-430C-98F6-FB22EDE6831F_zpsrbgxpqxz.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/F0520FD2-D050-430C-98F6-FB22EDE6831F_zpsrbgxpqxz.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/458F0D84-2C4E-4BD0-A8DC-43ABEFD4B1EE_zpsriljly7c.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/458F0D84-2C4E-4BD0-A8DC-43ABEFD4B1EE_zpsriljly7c.jpg.html)

Then I got a lot too close to the wall twice and did a typical e36 thing and bent the shit out of everything in the rear end, kept driving after that and then a 240 broke a tie Rod in front of me and I was already on his door so I bent the front over aswell. Oh well, such is the life of a drift car. Rough weekend for all the team cars cosmetically

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/05CF68BD-F272-4326-A1A0-D8C040C0D8AC_zpssk8i7lws.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/05CF68BD-F272-4326-A1A0-D8C040C0D8AC_zpssk8i7lws.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/5D087335-5F45-47FE-A130-CF249261C21F_zps6xpmsu1o.jpeg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/5D087335-5F45-47FE-A130-CF249261C21F_zps6xpmsu1o.jpeg.html)

Aftermovie here: https://youtu.be/1S3VC9NsPns

[jalopi]

ouch. tube frame time?

[Mikestokman]

Nah it's not that bad just yet. Going to push it back with a portapower and then make more relief cuts in the bash bars so they crumple if it takes a hard hit again

[Mikestokman]

Tried pushing, had some issues, busted out the sawzall.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/7E87C01D-3291-4D49-B808-FD37761D95B0_zpsgqo51wdj.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/7E87C01D-3291-4D49-B808-FD37761D95B0_zpsgqo51wdj.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/49B2E23E-23FF-4150-B76E-C6D310EE57FA_zpsyf9vuzki.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/49B2E23E-23FF-4150-B76E-C6D310EE57FA_zpsyf9vuzki.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/22DC67AD-6B11-44A1-A6E3-2E64A41E871F_zpsf0fyjz7f.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/22DC67AD-6B11-44A1-A6E3-2E64A41E871F_zpsf0fyjz7f.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/40B5AC82-CD50-4F7E-9385-7AE354FF52D9_zpsrn9bk9be.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/40B5AC82-CD50-4F7E-9385-7AE354FF52D9_zpsrn9bk9be.jpg.html)

Then used a long snipe and bent the front end back into shape.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/20954B11-BAAC-470F-AAD2-EEEE08BA87E2_zpstnjrckk9.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/20954B11-BAAC-470F-AAD2-EEEE08BA87E2_zpstnjrckk9.jpg.html)

It's not perfect but it's not done and it's way better then it was. Soon it will look good in pictures again...

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/270F7A56-F5AF-431E-B6B9-4359FA0C3C21_zpspsdhwpwh.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/270F7A56-F5AF-431E-B6B9-4359FA0C3C21_zpspsdhwpwh.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/1BB0DB8E-E3FD-4323-B2F8-A36D562F0B2A_zpsdtdvtww4.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/1BB0DB8E-E3FD-4323-B2F8-A36D562F0B2A_zpsdtdvtww4.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/CBECDFB0-F30B-422A-A35F-5F7B507431D7_zpszfwsadz6.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/CBECDFB0-F30B-422A-A35F-5F7B507431D7_zpszfwsadz6.jpg.html)

[doktor b]

made quick work of that body damage.
:thumbup:

[King Sir Savage]

just read this thread ni and out, i absolutely love the work youve done -- the thread may be old but it is still an invaluable tool as well as an inspiration -- great post!

[Mikestokman]

Some more media got posted, 2 separate runs, chase driver got a bit more confident on the bank

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/FB4FD179-5FD8-4774-B34E-8F89B928FD14_zpsslqool0z.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/FB4FD179-5FD8-4774-B34E-8F89B928FD14_zpsslqool0z.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/79406972-A90E-40C3-8F48-D4A1A14F70F3_zpszvptz1bx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/79406972-A90E-40C3-8F48-D4A1A14F70F3_zpszvptz1bx.jpg.html)

Now back to the repairs. Ground down the welds, body hammer a few Dents, blendy blendy, good as... Well not new but it's close enough.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/DF82D6F9-10E4-49BE-881B-BEF0571C467E_zpscljl3b5v.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/DF82D6F9-10E4-49BE-881B-BEF0571C467E_zpscljl3b5v.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/B15AD205-7677-45F5-A437-904CBCA9BD45_zpsheqk6ceb.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/B15AD205-7677-45F5-A437-904CBCA9BD45_zpsheqk6ceb.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/E72BFF46-2530-4359-BA52-14A20A3E86A2_zpsddfzao34.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/E72BFF46-2530-4359-BA52-14A20A3E86A2_zpsddfzao34.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/373FB1A5-C98B-40EC-8E09-5F847FE22D69_zpsq9npdcu2.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/373FB1A5-C98B-40EC-8E09-5F847FE22D69_zpsq9npdcu2.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/44BFA04E-4FC5-4A18-BAEE-3B929B4D41C1_zpsfwl2bdhy.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/44BFA04E-4FC5-4A18-BAEE-3B929B4D41C1_zpsfwl2bdhy.jpg.html)

And working on making brackets to run truck accessories on my v8 because I have them and don't want to spend lots of money on fbody stuff. Just need to get a spare e36 power steering pump so I can copy jeepsters idea of modding that to fit the ls.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/33896BF0-9999-465C-B91D-9F938BB6B553_zpskk9bf5nm.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/33896BF0-9999-465C-B91D-9F938BB6B553_zpskk9bf5nm.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/A5E6D7C9-9EC6-4034-BC5A-06D7C45CF82D_zpseznldcba.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/A5E6D7C9-9EC6-4034-BC5A-06D7C45CF82D_zpseznldcba.jpg.html)

[jalopi]

well that buffed out nicely

[doktor b]

are you rear-mounting or custom mounting the radiator?
i was under the impression that the truck accessories get into the radiator if it's not moved.

[Mikestokman]

I'll have to see, I'm planning on mounting the motor as far into the firewall as I can and if it still hits the rad I'll just make a new support that tilts the rad foreword.

[Mikestokman]

https://youtu.be/rBMDmYAb4wY

Little video a buddy made of our matsuri earlier this month. Couple in car clips of my friends trying to rub the paint off my doors!

[Mikestokman]

Made a bit more progress on the v8, e36 power steering pump mounted, separated the stock harness into individual plugs and now just have to route them back towards the stock BMW ecu location. Truck manifold on just for location purposes.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/B4D705AE-FCC9-4851-93F7-B9B986986BC6_zpsgw3kqbze.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/B4D705AE-FCC9-4851-93F7-B9B986986BC6_zpsgw3kqbze.jpg.html)

One last drift day before parking it for the winter. Don't think the ls will get put in this winter after all, just not financially ready for it with school coming up and I still haven't had a chance to make the adapter plate or flywheel yet so oh well. No big deal, the s50 is still running plenty strong and will still be competitive for next seasons fun having.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/E74DDC2D-C002-4F83-951C-D312F01015D6_zpswalyuxb1.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/E74DDC2D-C002-4F83-951C-D312F01015D6_zpswalyuxb1.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/A08A1569-5C0A-4419-8F01-38D94E0FC5C8_zps8rserwb1.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/A08A1569-5C0A-4419-8F01-38D94E0FC5C8_zps8rserwb1.jpg.html)

[Mikestokman]

Wiring harness from the truck is thinned out and minus the few fuses and relays, it's done until I can put it in the car and mount the obd port and shit like that, http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/3687EE75-E46A-4BEE-BE49-02C9E9B936E1_zpsiszscoya.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/3687EE75-E46A-4BEE-BE49-02C9E9B936E1_zpsiszscoya.jpg.html)

So then on to the next thing, trans adapter plate template. Bolted up, needs to be 1-1/4 thick instead of the 3/4 it is now but that won't change anything when I burn it on the plasma table at work. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/0DE2EA72-D382-444C-9B3A-F5BE488FD3A9_zpsumr7ymsc.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/0DE2EA72-D382-444C-9B3A-F5BE488FD3A9_zpsumr7ymsc.jpg.html)

After that was bolted up I had an idea of how low to the ground it will be , so I looked at some oil pan specs and cut mine to be the same as an f-body pan. Made a holder to mount a zip cut wheel in the mill, worked out really well. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D44465D6-51B2-44C3-89D0-F26C6D6B6DF9_zps6yakjm15.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D44465D6-51B2-44C3-89D0-F26C6D6B6DF9_zps6yakjm15.jpg.html)
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/EF483591-83F4-43E3-AF24-B61D44F4D37C_zpswbbkqsuq.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/EF483591-83F4-43E3-AF24-B61D44F4D37C_zpswbbkqsuq.jpg.html)
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/4042A0ED-2899-4431-885C-AB15B1E98EF1_zpsis9oogyk.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/4042A0ED-2899-4431-885C-AB15B1E98EF1_zpsis9oogyk.jpg.html)

That's all for now, pan is currently at work being welded, and I leave for school in a week so no progress for a little while atleast.

[beat328i]

Top notch work! It'll be great to know there is an option out there rather than the ever-increasing-in-price t56.

[Mikestokman]

Well there's lots of options like old school t5/10 or cd009, and there's a company in the uk (abc clutch) that makes the adapter/flywheel for the 6 speed trans they have over there but it's like $2500+ and I'm poor so that's not an option for me haha

[beat328i]

like $2500+ and I'm poor so that's not an option for me haha

Completely agreed. The zf 5 speed is just as capable of holding power as a T56, and it shifts better in my opinion. Mating it to an LS just makes sense.

[Mikestokman]

Went to school, came back with a bunch of motivation and a couple more parts, so moved the motor off my deck and out to buddy's shop and reassembled it.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/6CE27561-2F86-45F1-B74E-0BBEEFDE764F_zpsoa7irvvk.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/6CE27561-2F86-45F1-B74E-0BBEEFDE764F_zpsoa7irvvk.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/A5A58C0F-0BD9-48C4-8D8D-7074BB3B9BE5_zps4pmocufn.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/A5A58C0F-0BD9-48C4-8D8D-7074BB3B9BE5_zps4pmocufn.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/ADB0D24B-CFF5-42D8-883E-552D1C049504_zps7i7myyk1.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/ADB0D24B-CFF5-42D8-883E-552D1C049504_zps7i7myyk1.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/947E2400-E008-4D30-BF8A-C4D125AB9369_zpsg3o94bxj.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/947E2400-E008-4D30-BF8A-C4D125AB9369_zpsg3o94bxj.jpg.html)

So now I'm currently machining the fuel rails, finishing welding the oil pan, then shortening the pickup, aligning all the accessories, then I'll move on to making the adapter plate out of steel, should be rough cut out just after New Years. Will be picking up a clean/straight coupe shell to put this in, so that I don't have to take apart my m3 and end up not driving for a season.

[tptrsn]

So then on to the next thing, trans adapter plate template. Bolted up, needs to be 1-1/4 thick instead of the 3/4 it is now but that won't change anything when I burn it on the plasma table at work. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/0DE2EA72-D382-444C-9B3A-F5BE488FD3A9_zpsumr7ymsc.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/0DE2EA72-D382-444C-9B3A-F5BE488FD3A9_zpsumr7ymsc.jpg.html)
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/4042A0ED-2899-4431-885C-AB15B1E98EF1_zpsis9oogyk.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/4042A0ED-2899-4431-885C-AB15B1E98EF1_zpsis9oogyk.jpg.html)

Would you mind elaborating a little bit on how you made your adapter, and what process you used to get everything centered from both sides? Also, what is the reason it needs to be 1 1/4"? So the bolts from the trans side have a bit more thread to grab onto?

[Mikestokman]

It was just simple layout stuff, measure from the center of the crank to the bellhousing bolt circle, do the same with the trans, then overlay the centres and mark all the holes. I made a little dummy shaft when I bolted it together for this picture that was the od of the crank and the Id of the input shaft and it lines up beautiful. Needs to be thicker for the ring gear of the flex plate to contact the starter without hitting the adapter plate then I'll build a button flywheel off that or just machine a crank adapter and run a BMW flywheel so I don't have to do quite as much machining

[tptrsn]

Cool, thanks!

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/C4289687-756A-4976-ADD8-5BEC9BE2462F_zps9w1xw2lr.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/C4289687-756A-4976-ADD8-5BEC9BE2462F_zps9w1xw2lr.jpg.html)

Made fuel rails, FAST fuel rail extrusion, machined it at work, made all the accessories line up, now just have to get the pan back from welding and mod the pickup then it's all ready to go. Probably start the adapter plate next week and then I can toss it in the shell I'll be picking up this weekend

[beat328i]

I can't wait to see how the clutch/flywheel setup goes. Everything else is looking pretty slick.

[tptrsn]

All of the pics you can post of the adapter plate making process would be MUCH appreciated!

[jalopi]

i wish i had enough table travel to make an adapter plate

what kind of rig are you working with?

[Mikestokman]

I think even our smallest mill would have enough travel to do it, we have a haas vf2,vf5, and vf7, and if I get really stuck we have a challenger hbm-4 horizontal boring mill, but I don't know how to run that one so id have to ask my coworker and that sounds less fun for me.

[ButteDorFrank]

progress is going well ... what intake is that ?

I know you said you are pretty good to fight against the "while I'm in there" thoughts but you should have really dropped a cam "while you were in there" that's all those engine needs to wake em up and make a big difference.

[Mikestokman]

New year new me

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D65C1A79-F8FD-4147-B66D-7FE3D009A771_zpsdfkq5xxk.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D65C1A79-F8FD-4147-B66D-7FE3D009A771_zpsdfkq5xxk.jpg.html)

That will be the shell that the v8 goes in. 318is auto with clean title and no rust for $150, not too bad.

To answer your questions, speedmaster qualifier intake, painted with some vht engine paint. Not doing a cam right now because I just want to get it driving with no issues as a stock(ish) motor. After its running and drives well, I will put a cam/ springs in it, but for now id just rather put that $1200 somewhere else. if it runs this year, it will just be a street car, so it doesn't need to make a ton of power, just sound cool and do sick burnouts.

[Mikestokman]

So now I guess I'm competing with jalopi for ghetto headers.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/B76FA4CB-EC14-40AE-BF81-103B68864DEA_zpswkmncd29.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/B76FA4CB-EC14-40AE-BF81-103B68864DEA_zpswkmncd29.jpg.html)

But there's a method to my madness. I think that by Doing both like this, (and obviously cutting the pipe shorter) and putting a flange, I'll be able to build dump tubes that clear the steering shaft and the starter with no issues. Atleast that's the theory. We'll find out for sure when I first test fit it.

[tptrsn]

Whoa, that really IS ghetto fabulous... I LOVE IT!! :)

It actually doesn't look like it will work badly at all to me.

[jalopi]

GIT-R-DUN Canuck style

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/trailerpark/images/0/00/Ricky.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20091104160712

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/2A86E971-8501-40A5-80E4-BD7D67110BF3_zps8srivobd.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/2A86E971-8501-40A5-80E4-BD7D67110BF3_zps8srivobd.jpg.html)

Oil pan is done! Made a copy of the improved racing cooler manifold and tossed some old -10 lines on. Will be doing a bulkhead at the front of the motor and then running short lines to the cooler, just to make for ease of install/removal.

Adapter plate is being burned tomorrow, probably start machining it this weekend depending what's in the machine at the end of Friday.

[Mikestokman]

So new car thrash weekend is here,

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/4484A942-57D0-459D-8724-AC5D443E9E4B_zpshdhf3ka8.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/4484A942-57D0-459D-8724-AC5D443E9E4B_zpshdhf3ka8.jpg.html)
Engine out,

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/316BE7EA-D7FF-49E9-BC8A-4DEDCD9362CD_zps6ycwssds.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/316BE7EA-D7FF-49E9-BC8A-4DEDCD9362CD_zps6ycwssds.jpg.html)

Interior/ dash/ auto shifter/ auto pedals out.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/1F6EF963-EC27-415E-BCB9-CA88D94BFD35_zpsooqaggst.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/1F6EF963-EC27-415E-BCB9-CA88D94BFD35_zpsooqaggst.jpg.html)

Adapter plate template

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/F860F46C-2C31-43D2-AE54-1C76EF28BDC2_zpsahql9lyu.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/F860F46C-2C31-43D2-AE54-1C76EF28BDC2_zpsahql9lyu.jpg.html)

Chunk of burned steel

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/6B6249F7-0E22-46C2-A0F0-CBFD49B1C006_zpsiukldt87.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/6B6249F7-0E22-46C2-A0F0-CBFD49B1C006_zpsiukldt87.jpg.html)

Chunk of wood bolted to chunk of steel.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D833A7F2-A673-45D7-B058-31AF70C22BB4_zpsy5a6s5ip.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D833A7F2-A673-45D7-B058-31AF70C22BB4_zpsy5a6s5ip.jpg.html)

Beginning to look like a thing

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/8572A5A0-217A-489A-8629-C0EB042345F0_zpszxc2annb.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/8572A5A0-217A-489A-8629-C0EB042345F0_zpszxc2annb.jpg.html)

And set the motor in to see if things will work. So, unfortunately my ghetto headers won't work, they hit the steering shaft on the 4th runner and the only remedy is to mount it super high (can fit a 2x4 between pan and crossmember) and if I do that then I'd have to cut the hood to clear the throttle. Sounds gay so I'll do something else and make my own headers. Other then that, tons of room for activities! Even with truck accessories I still have plenty of room between the rad and the pulleys so that's atleast 1 win for today.

[protomor]

can you get me some shots of the driver's side of the bay and clearance to the valve cover? I'm trying to plan for when I do this lol. Block huggers won't work for you?

[tptrsn]

Great progress!! Two questions for you about your adapter plate:

1) How thick is it?

2) what are the two very bottom holes for, bottom two holes of the T-56 bellhousing? I'm used to looking at a TH400 bellhousing currently that has nothing down there.

[protomor]

1) How thick is it?

2) what are the two very bottom holes for...

I'm 12

[tptrsn]

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl


:handclap


That had me rolling. Thank you! :D

[Mikestokman]

can you get me some shots of the driver's side of the bay and clearance to the valve cover? I'm trying to plan for when I do this lol. Block huggers won't work for you?
They might but it's super hard to tell if they're going to be tight enough on the rear primary from pictures and I don't really want to spend a couple hundred dollars on a gamble...

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Great progress!! Two questions for you about your adapter plate:

1) How thick is it?

2) what are the two very bottom holes for, bottom two holes of the T-56 bellhousing? I'm used to looking at a TH400 bellhousing currently that has nothing down there.
Right now it's 1-1/4" thick, just because I can always take material off but it's way harder to put it back on. It will end up being milled as much as possible so it's not so bulky when I get closer to an end product. 2 holes at the bottom are for ls oil pan, th400 is built for a small block Chevy so they only have the top half of the bellhousing holes

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Jk, just ordered block hugger headers, we'll see how much better they don't fit lol.

[jalopi]

jeez, i figured you'd be making that plate out of aluminum, not steel. what's the estimated finished weight? 30lbs?

[Mikestokman]

It's still a prototype, a chunk of steel is waaaaay cheaper to fuck up then a chunk of aluminum...

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http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/ACA30EC9-154B-4BD6-B780-D057122B7175_zpsdzrgavmt.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/ACA30EC9-154B-4BD6-B780-D057122B7175_zpsdzrgavmt.jpg.html)

That's the abc one, even out of steel I don't think it will be retarded heavy

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Side 2

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/A0978178-6218-4086-AB20-D90A5ED20EB6_zpsvhpn1kyq.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/A0978178-6218-4086-AB20-D90A5ED20EB6_zpsvhpn1kyq.jpg.html)

[tptrsn]

Man that's purty.

[Novablue454]

Why not just get the CX headers made to fit that chassis?

[Mikestokman]

That's still a $350 usd more expensive option then what I ended up buying so we'll see if this pans out first

[Mikestokman]

Doing thing

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/D341936B-1069-4B94-BE4D-B9AFE51A1B10_zps4e1in11j.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/D341936B-1069-4B94-BE4D-B9AFE51A1B10_zps4e1in11j.jpg.html)

Getting there

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/879CCE1A-ED69-473A-963C-B4C58C8C9189_zpsvuviqbij.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/879CCE1A-ED69-473A-963C-B4C58C8C9189_zpsvuviqbij.jpg.html)

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Also got the motor set on Sunday, mounts aren't on in pic but they're made and it fits well. Will see if I need to modify the location when the headers are here, but I don't think I'll have to.

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/875D75B0-5827-4789-B1BD-246348C7FE3C_zpsthvnod9k.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/875D75B0-5827-4789-B1BD-246348C7FE3C_zpsthvnod9k.jpg.html)

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/829FC30E-BC12-41D7-B5E9-D76BFE1893E7_zpsnamoc1l2.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/829FC30E-BC12-41D7-B5E9-D76BFE1893E7_zpsnamoc1l2.jpg.html)

Also, got more room from the front of the truck accessories to the rad, then I do in my m3 haha. Tons of room for fan and fun

[jalopi]

that's a trick setup. no chatter issues over the unsupported parts of the face? doesn't look like it from the pictures but it's hard to tell

if you don't mind, would you share how the part was indicated?

[Mikestokman]

Nope no chatter at all, where the tips of the clamps are is thick so there's lots of pressure on the part. As for location, the whole program is written from the center of the crank, which is kindof a pain to find with how I had the plate burned, but isn't impossible haha

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http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/442250F9-64F3-46F2-964A-65516FA65BE5_zpsf6z90wf3.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/442250F9-64F3-46F2-964A-65516FA65BE5_zpsf6z90wf3.jpg.html)

Gotta notch for the starter and it should be good to go!

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/4BA4D75C-4801-4EE3-940A-C1E9EA496F53_zpswwurlnaw.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/4BA4D75C-4801-4EE3-940A-C1E9EA496F53_zpswwurlnaw.jpg.html)
Bolts holes all line up! Starter notch is done, need to get counter sunk bolts for the tranny tomorrow and should be able to bolt that up. Need to build a flywheel because adapting the 6bolt chev crank to a 8bolt BMW flywheel will be impossible. Shouldn't be too hard to build though, I've done it once before.

[tptrsn]

That adapter plate setup looks excellent!

Regarding your intake, have you taken any measurements to see how much too tall a shaved truck intake would be to fit under a factory hood? What all parts off the truck intake were you able to re-use with that intake like throttle body, etc. (assuming you had the truck intake from the engine, maybe you didn't...)?

[Mikestokman]

Truck intake is way too tall, if you look back on page 6, there's a pic of it when I had the truck intake on and a pic of after I got my car one, the throttle body sits way higher, and as is with the car manifold I think there will be minimal clearance with the hood. I made my own fuel rails so I could use the truck injectors without needing injector spacers, re used the map sensor, and the throttle body is off a truck ( not my motor though, it came with drive by wire so had to get one off a '99).

[tptrsn]

Ok, thanks!!

[Mikestokman]

http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/21CD8118-ECB4-4F16-BAB0-D4D1B2A72AF6_zpsahoyibru.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/21CD8118-ECB4-4F16-BAB0-D4D1B2A72AF6_zpsahoyibru.jpg.html)

[doktor b]

So awesome.
excellent work!

[jalopi]

no pics of the flywheel? me sad now

[Mikestokman]

That's this/next weeks project

[tptrsn]

That adapter plate is extremely impressive work.

[Mikestokman]

So this is the chunk of 4340 I got for free, 16" round by 3" thick, started by turning that to 13.5 and 11.25 http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/1EB4F35D-8100-48CD-A1A0-AB39ED8BE330_zpsuecwn3ay.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/1EB4F35D-8100-48CD-A1A0-AB39ED8BE330_zpsuecwn3ay.jpg.html)

Haven't got to take any cuts or drill any holes off it just yet but that will be for this weekend. Got a stock flywheel to take all my measurements off of so shouldn't be too hard. Current weight is 95lbs, hoping for sub 20 when its finished
http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/276D1F41-4301-4F17-A944-7688DC1F6614_zpsldb25vrz.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/276D1F41-4301-4F17-A944-7688DC1F6614_zpsldb25vrz.jpg.html)

[welchct]

Good lord! 4340? Indestructible! Lol

[Mikestokman]

If I was going to purchase material myself it would have been a36, but a chunk of that was $250, the 4340 was free and lots of companies seem to use it so I'll give it a shot too

[Mikestokman]

Got bored, spent a few hours playing around at the shop. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/6A9A596B-66A2-49C1-AE72-BE0C034AD4CB_zpstcx45wwo.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/6A9A596B-66A2-49C1-AE72-BE0C034AD4CB_zpstcx45wwo.jpg.html)

[tptrsn]

Wow, that's not the way I envisioned that going! But it's cool.

Now that I'm looking at it, the way I envisioned it probably wouldn't have worked...

[doktor b]

It's gonna take you years with a dremel tool to cut all the ring gear teeth!

i kid I kid. Super cool stuff you're doing.

[Mikestokman]

Wow, that's not the way I envisioned that going! But it's cool.

Now that I'm looking at it, the way I envisioned it probably wouldn't have worked...

What was you're idea? Haha



It's gonna take you years with a dremel tool to cut all the ring gear teeth!

i kid I kid. Super cool stuff you're doing.
Wont have to cut a ring gear at all actually, but more on that once I get to the end of the project ;)

[tptrsn]

Well, the reason I say I don't know that my vague picture in my head would have worked is that it involved a flex plate with the starter ring gear on it, and then a separate pressure plate that could be spaced out from the flex plate by a nice small diameter hub adapter. BUUUUUT, I gather now that the pressure plate style you're using doesn't involve a flex plate at all.

The only benefit to what I was seeing in my head is reduced inertia. Other than that, the way you are making it is probably better in every way (especially in that it will probably actually work, where my idea probably wouldn't. :D).

[Mikestokman]

I'll be using the stock flex plate, so you're not far off. I'm not sure if I'm going to sandwich it between the flywheel and the crank, or bolt it to the flywheel and space it back to the stock location, I'll decide that once I see how much meat I can take off the flywheel

[Mikestokman]

Meat removal ver.1

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Current weight is 19.4lbs, so 5 lbs lighter then stock, 4 lbs off ideal goal. Still have material to remove, so that will happen this week.

[tptrsn]

Looking great!

[Novablue454]

Man, the LS1 flywheel is only 25lbs? LOL my CTS-V flywheel I took of mine is 50!

[Mikestokman]

Stock e36 flywheel is 24, my lightweight one in my m3 is 14, so I'm shooting for somewhere between 14-17lbs when finished

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Ctsv has a dual mass aswell but 2x the weight of a e36 dual mass seems rediculous

[doktor b]

I know my Monster stage 3 clutch is heavy as hell compared to the e36 stuff.
i have the lightweight flywheel and it's ~18lbs. But the pplate is crazy heavy. I bet the ctsv dmf is every bit of 45 or 50 lbs. heavy flywheels make cars so much easier to drive. And it's a bigger engine in a much bigger car. Makes sense to me.

[Mikestokman]

I love how quick my s50 revs, so that's why I'm trying to make this one as light as that one. Basically I want the car to drive as similar to the m3 as possible, just with more sounds of freedom and torque

[doktor b]

I love how quick my s50 revs, so that's why I'm trying to make this one as light as that one. Basically I want the car to drive as similar to the m3 as possible, just with more sounds of freedom and torque
I wish you were closer. I'd love to drive yours and mine back to back.

[Novablue454]

I have the Monster Iron 11 w/ the 18lb flywheel and LOVE it.

Some random info

http://www.cadillacforums.com/forums/2004-2007-cadillac-cts-v-performance/194184-clutch-weights-what-you-need-know.html

[Mikestokman]

Good read and food for thought for sure, however I'm not super worried about daily driveablity, and my thought process behind the weight of what I'm building is that if I make the flywheel around the same weight as my current f1 flywheel (14 lbs) and use the same pressure plate and flywheel (f1 stage 4 unsprung 6 puck with hd pressure plate) then the pedal and driveablity should be the same as the m3, just with a motor that makes more power and torque. I've had 0 issues with my current setup even after beating it up for 2 years and some street driving

[Mikestokman]

More lighter http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/8A3A26C0-E453-45E2-8F44-29F2A6985142_zpstqhtc7qz.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/8A3A26C0-E453-45E2-8F44-29F2A6985142_zpstqhtc7qz.jpg.html)

[Press22]

That looks great!

[Mikestokman]

Thanks! Clutch has been ordered and should be here early next week, ordered another fx racing unsprung 6 puck with hd pressure plate, identical to the one in my m3 so should be good. Then next weekend I can do all the final machining on the flywheel and bolt it together for the last time!

[Mikestokman]

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So, motor mounts are done, trans mount is done, headers and Y pipe are done, 325 diff and axles are in, and now it's on to making the new chassis harness. Got to drop it on the ground today and I'm so happy with how it sits. Unfortunately I'm still fighting with the company i ordered my clutch from, so no progress on the flywheel just yet.

[tptrsn]

Wow, that is crazy how much room there is in front of the engine! Are those front end accessories sitting at the F-body depth? Or is that a truck pulley??

[Mikestokman]

Truck depth, stock truck balancer, truck water pump, truck alternator, and a stock e36 p/s pump. Just made my own brackets and spacers to make it all sit right

[tptrsn]

That's one of the coolest setups then, in that it definitely helps keep the costs down. Nice work!!

Is that truck alternator one of the self-exciting ones that are easy to deal with, or don't you even care because you're using a truck ECU or something?

[Mikestokman]

Truck ecu, will be tuning with hp tuners because easy, whole harness is basically wired exactly like stock, just turned it around so the ecu can sit under the dash instead of in the engine bay

[Mikestokman]

Few more engine bay pics, got bored so I slapped together a front end. Starting on chassis wiring tomorrow, cutting out almost all the factory harness, going to leave lights, signals, and windows, because street car.

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[tptrsn]

That looks GREAT! Are you surprised by how roomy and easy to work on it feels in there around the engine, or isn't it as good to work on as it looks like it would be?

[Mikestokman]

Thanks! Yeah, I didn't think it would be as roomy as it is, but now that it's in there it looks like it will be way easier to get to everything then it would be on a stock 6cyl car. The only thing that's going to be a pain is the rear header bolt on the drivers side, mainly because it's tucked right behind the booster, but even then I think I'll be able to get it from under the car.

[doktor b]

With my CXR mounts and headers, all of the header bolts are easy to get to. And my engine is placed in basically the same spot.

[Mikestokman]

Yeah but we all know that you're much more baller then I am...

[doktor b]

Yeah but we all know that you're much more baller then I am...
Lol.
i sincerely hope that this is the first time anyone ever referred to CXR as baller.

[tptrsn]

Lol.
i sincerely hope that this is the first time anyone ever referred to CXR as baller.

I love this forum! :lol

[Mikestokman]

Made an intake

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And now the long overdue post. The flywheel is DONE.

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Had to make custom bolts to thread into the crank since Chevy decided to use m11x1.5 pitch bolts and they're impossible to find. But it's done now. Finally. Now gotta pull the motor, paint the bay, install everything and start on wiring.

[protomor]

It looks like a prolapsed asshole pushing out a blue dildo.

[tptrsn]

Love me some piecuts, so of course I'm a big fan of your intake. That adapter flywheel is pretty awesome. A hell of a piece of machining work for sure, beautiful!

[Mikestokman]

Love me some piecuts, so of course I'm a big fan of your intake. That adapter flywheel is pretty awesome. A hell of a piece of machining work for sure, beautiful!
I don't know if there'd be any way to fit the intake without pushing the rad foreword more without pie cuts haha, looking at other people's pictures and standing there with my 4" mandrel bent 90 had me scratching my head for a while..

And thanks! I'm super happy with it and stoked to get the car running that much more. Go back a page or two for reference of what that chunk of steel started out as haha

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It looks like a prolapsed asshole pushing out a blue dildo.
I'm not super into weird porn, but whatever floats your goat I guess!

[doktor b]

awesome update!

did you get a final weight on the flywheel and clutch assembly?
i don't recall. did you have a local machine shop balance the flywheel? makes me want to have mine lightened when it's out next. (hopefully never)

[Mikestokman]

I haven't got a weight yet but will later today, I was going to have it balanced, but since everything has been done on a cnc and is symmetrical I think I'm just going to run it, I'm tired of having to wait on other people for parts to make this run, and since it would be getting balanced by my dads friend "when he has some free time" sorta deal that could take a while.

[tptrsn]

Yeah, run it!! :)

[doktor b]

#yolo

[Mikestokman]

Pretty much. I'm not tooo worried maybe...

[e24mpwr]

It looks like a prolapsed asshole pushing out a blue dildo.

Mind if we keep the commentary a little less...vivid?

[protomor]

I could draw it if you want. I'm thinking sailor moon.

[Mikestokman]

Got the motor out of the car last night to mock everything up, fits like a finger in a bum (tight)!

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Only issue I can see (or maybe issue, I dunno) is that when installing the slave, it touches the pivot arm inside and has about an inch to push in before it's seated on the trans. Only reason I call it an issue is because I can't remember how much I had to push in the one in my m3 before it seated. By looking at the piston on the slave itself, it looks like there was only an inch of travel to begin with, but I'll probably pull the one off my m3 just to double check. And if it's not quite enough preload on the slave I'll just shim the throw out bearing slightly to make it perfect.

[tptrsn]

Hmmmmm.... Clearly you need an automatic trans! :buttrock :rofl2

[Mikestokman]

So the flywheel ended up being 17.6 lbs, kinda disappointed as my goal was 14 ish, but it's still not terrible and I could make it lighter if I really wanted but that would mean sacrificing some of the thickness underneath the friction surface and then I think I'd run the risk of warping it under abuse (maybe I'm just paranoid, I don't really know how hot a clutch gets). Bay is all painted now and I can start reassembly this week, going to make a shim for the slave afterall, just to be on the safe side as the one I took off in a junkyard had about 1/8" more preload then mine and it's easy to do now rather then pull it later when it doesn't work in the car.

[protomor]

It's not like the V8 revs like a honda motor anyway. I am going to assume most of the mass of the flywheel's extra weight is close to the axis of rotation. In which case, the weight won't make much of a difference.

[doktor b]

It's not like the V8 revs like a honda motor anyway. I am going to assume most of the mass of the flywheel's extra weight is close to the axis of rotation. In which case, the weight won't make much of a difference.
Maybe your v8 doesn't rev like a Honda....

keep it up, Mike! You'll be annihilating tires in no time!

[Mikestokman]

Yeah i thought of that aswell which is why I'm not going to worry about changing it, just going to run it as is and if it's not that sweet I can always take more off next time it's out of the car. No big deal. Dropped my ecu off at a friends shop to get them to unlock it with hp tuners and load a base tune so I can at least fire it when the time comes. I think all I really need to buy to make it run is oil and a fuel pressure regulator off a vette and then hook up a few wires and relays and bang bang.

[Mikestokman]

Turns out I'm fully dumb, had the throw out bearing in 90* off, so once I put it in the right way the slave preload is now perfect. Idiot...

[protomor]

ID 10 T

My first clutch job, I forgot the throw out bearing. Was JUST finishing bolting the driveshaft back on and was like... oh.

[Mikestokman]

Bay painted, now for the fun part, final assembly. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/81B6FD04-3D99-445C-BDE7-DE8969CCE0B2_zpsr3sogprx.jpg (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/81B6FD04-3D99-445C-BDE7-DE8969CCE0B2_zpsr3sogprx.jpg.html)

Also getting a pair of top hats waterjetted out at my work so I can have all the camber/caster adjustment I could ever want/ need when I build my new angle kit and control arms. Starting to get excited about this thing, but keep reality-checking myself with a massive list of all the shit left to do. But it's ok, having no timeframe on when I need this thing running makes me a little bit less stressed

[doktor b]

Keep it up! Looks great!

[tptrsn]

Yeah, looks TOO nice. I'd be reluctant to treat it as badly as I would want to haha.

[Mikestokman]

I have no automotive sympathy, the car will be driven exactly as hard as I drive the other car. I just want to do this one right from the start since I put so much effort into the parts on it haha. Still gonna send it, and I'm sure it will end up looking as fcked as my m3 as the years go on... but that's ok because by then I'm sure I'll find an e46 coupe to toss the motor into.

[tptrsn]

Are you kind of planning ahead with the mindset of making everything work equally well in an E46 chassis as you go along?

[doktor b]

If I ball up my m3, I'm thinking e46 coupe as well.

[Mikestokman]

Nope, when I swap everything into an e46 it will be a whole new ballgame, but if all I have to make is a motor and trans mount, that's the easiest part of this whole deal

[Mikestokman]

Knocked out a bunch of little shit this weekend and just basically got a lot of things fully mounted that weren't mounted before I painted the bay. Ordered a fuel pressure regulator, so now once I add the relays to the wiring harness it should be able to run. Finished up the shifter mount and will probably fab up the linkage this week, I'm happy with how it turned out for the most part and the throw is short enough that I won't be punching my dash which is always a plus...

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[Novablue454]

You guys and your e46 coupes, good! More sedans for me, haha!

[StuHOONHQ]

weird, for some reason they looked wider than that to me

after lengthening my control arms i don't have issues rubbing the frame rails any more, but holy crap do i rub the front of the wheel well. thinking i'm gonna have to completely remove it. ever seen anyone do this in person? the only thing i can find online is chelsea's car

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[Mikestokman]

Pulled the rear subframe out on Thursday after work, made new solid subframe risers, diff bushings, and the rtab bearings, and installed everything tonight with shorter springs and an eyeball alignment. The Rtab's are sick and I'm so stoked to try them out, installed a grease nipple so I can pump em up if they ever make noise, but they should work great. http://i1279.photobucket.com/albums/y534/mikestokman/05F84BC9-4970-4DC9-BEC6-360B3EE31DC8_zpsb3gjf97g.png (http://s1279.photobucket.com/user/mikestokman/media/05F84BC9-4970-4DC9-BEC6-360B3EE31DC8_zpsb3gjf97g.png.html)