$100,000 e36 m3

[cky751]

http://www.cars.com/go/search/detail.jsp?tracktype=usedcc&csDlId=&csDgId=&listingId=114206095&listingRecNum=0&criteria=feedSegId%3D28705%26rpp%3D50%26isDealerGr ouping%3Dfalse%26sf2Nm%3Dmiles%26sf1Nm%3Dprice%26s f2Dir%3DASC%26stkTypId%3D28881%26PMmt%3D1-1-0%26rn%3D0%26zc%3D94303%26rd%3D100000%26crSrtFlds% 3DstkTypId-feedSegId-mkId-mdId%26mdId%3D21392%26stkTyp%3DU%26mkId%3D20005%26 sf1Dir%3DDESC&aff=national&listType=1

[Reizvoll]

wtf.... so sick.

[RotRedM3]

I haven't been on this forum for very long but I feel like I've seen this car a million times already...:confused

[technoMyviolet3]

I haven't been on this forum for very long but I feel like I've seen this car a million times already...:confused

Ditto. Its been posted many many times

[ckpitt55]

And there's probably a reason it hasn't sold. Ultimate sitting machine. What a waste

[shaft9ii]

I haven't been on this forum for very long but I feel like I've seen this car a million times already...:confused Yep

[Harocho]

I guess a test drive is out of the question?

[MMMGP]

A stripped-down '95 with a pansy checker flag? Pffft

My car has leather... and a sunroof!

EDIT: LMFAO! Look at what commercial was linked by my use of the word pansy!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=480705&d=1382851784

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[Butters Stoch]

One of the rarest cars bmw has ever built (120) only (85) in the states . With less than 100 miles. Id say its worth it.

[MMMGP]

One of the rarest cars bmw has ever built (120) only (85) in the states . With less than 100 miles. Id say its worth it.

Correction, 126 built.

[KnudsonsM3]

no ltw flag no deal

[DRMe36M3]

One of the rarest cars bmw has ever built (120) only (85) in the states . With less than 100 miles. Id say its worth it.

you're insane.

[Butters Stoch]

you're insane.

People pay a lot more than that for cars that have had their "15 minutes of fame"

[kevinwilly]

It's worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it.

Meanwhile, it's an AWESOME centerpiece for their showroom. I've been there. It's beautiful. They'd be STUPID to let that thing go for any less simply because they would lose such a nice ornament for their showroom. They'd sell it in a DAY for 30 grand. Probably a couple months for a 50 grand buyer to pop up. Who knows... in a few years someone might pay that for it.

[shiftym]

Love to know what they paid for it

[gemolken]

So nice.
So clean.

[GG Allin]

It's certainly not worth $100k until some actually pays that much for it. They can ask what ever they want for it.

[cky751]

maybe there are one or two rich bmw fanatics out there that would want this for their collection. at this point its purely sentimental

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A stripped-down '95 with a pansy checker flag? Pffft

My car has leather... and a sunroof!

EDIT: LMFAO! Look at what commercial was linked by my use of the word pansy!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=480705&d=1382851784

480705

that is the car the word implies. I wonder how many men out there are forced to buy one of these things by their wife? I guess if they bought this ltw they might have buy vert basket...

[bav 325i]

That car will never be anything but a display piece, and that's all it should be.

[GG Allin]

How about these prices?


http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=111197841676&forcerrptr=true&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19e3e8690c&_ssn=avharmony&_sop=3

[anotherhaus]

A stripped-down '95 with a pansy checker flag? Pffft

My car has leather... and a sunroof!


:lol

But seriously, cloth > leather. :buttrock

[technoMyviolet3]

How about these prices?


http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=111197841676&forcerrptr=true&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19e3e8690c&_ssn=avharmony&_sop=3


How can these be serious prices?!

[kevinwilly]

Love to know what they paid for it


Knowing those guys (and I do), they probably got a killer deal on it or one of the owners of EAG might have bought it brand new. I know one of the guys had an E28 or E34 M5 touring at one point... imported it from overseas when it was brand new. Bad ass car. I think he might have sold it a couple years ago... I forget.

Anyways, a friend of mine bought a 19k mile e46 m3 from them 6 months ago. Paid WAY too much for it according to most people. But the thing was cherry and it was what he wanted. When you have money, you might as well spend it on what you want.

[cky751]

How about these prices?


http://www.ebay.com/sch/m.html?item=111197841676&forcerrptr=true&pt=US_Cars_Trucks&hash=item19e3e8690c&_ssn=avharmony&_sop=3

those fur coats are priced pretty high :D

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exactly, people do dumb stuff with money all the time. and for these sellers its just the amount of patience they have until someone with too much money or not a lot of brains comes along (or both? lol)

[erikerikerik]

Correction, 126 built.

Damn, rarer than mine. :(

[Andy]

those fur coats are priced pretty high :D

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exactly, people do dumb stuff with money all the time. and for these sellers its just the amount of patience they have until someone with too much money or not a lot of brains comes along (or both? lol)


Guys, I found him! Here's the guy who determines what is smart to do with money and what isn't!! He's right here!!! :lol

Remember this saying - Everybody is somebody's fool. While you're calling someone a fool, there are people doing the same thing to you, and me! I have a feeling more people think we are foolish compared to the person who can buy a $100,000 car. ;)

[williamm3]

I hope it sells for that much.

[EE05063]

I hope it sells for that much.

Don't hold your breath. It's been for sale for a VERY long time. Long enough that anyone with the money to waste has seen it by now. There's just too much good out there that can be done with 100k in a car that it makes this a long shot.

I think last time there was a thread about this car the opinions were it's a 50-60k car at best.

[hkovalcik]

Wait. I've never seen this car before.

[mugrin]

$100k and it doesn't have a strut tower brace?

Are the photos a lie?

[technoMyviolet3]

$100k and it doesn't have a strut tower brace?

Are the photos a lie?

"All Accessories and GT Parts are New, Never Installed, Still in the Packaging!"

Its just never been installed but comes with.

[JJJames]

How can these be serious prices?!

If they sell for that kind of money, it is only because the buyers are lazy/haven't done thier homework. The international market is awash with low-mileage early M cars.

One example - an actual E30 M3 Sport Evolution: fly over, take a look at it, bring it back for a fraction of what they're asking for a normal E30 with a few upgrades....lunacy.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e30-m3-86-92/bmw-e30-m3-sport-evolution/1620039

and this isn't the first I've seen advertised and sold over there for that kind of money...30-45000 pounds for an Evo II and 55-70 000 pounds for a Sport Evo appears to be the market rate, and its only climbing

[sjpgoalie]

If they sell for that kind of money, its just lazy buyers. You can grab an actual E30 M3 Sport Evolution and bring it over for a fraction of what they're asking for a normal E30 with a few upgrades....lunacy

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e30-m3-86-92/bmw-e30-m3-sport-evolution/1620039

Oh, and this isn't the first I've seen advertised and sold over there for that kind of money...30-45000 pounds for an Evo II and 55-70 000 pounds for a Sport Evo appears to be the market rate, and its only climbing

The government says otherwise lol. You can't bring a 1990 car over here, until 2015. It has to be 25 years old from it's production date.

That LTW will never be worth more than what it sells at. These will never appreciate further than they already have.

Buy a car for 100,000 and end up not even being able to insure it for 50k :rofl I couldn't even drive that thing, because I would feel like a moron if a wrecked a car that I paid that much for...when it is merely a clean, slower example of my own.

Just because they made less than 150...I mean, yeah...those 150 cars are "rare", but they're rare simply due to that. It's a 2900# e36 and they happened to make 150...but only for the US market and that's it. The M3 LTW badge is what makes that car "rare" and expensive. That's all you would be paying for.

It's a 316 with aluminum panels, neither have ac, the radio removed, swaybar added, and the 95 USM subframes, shocks/struts, brakes, trans, and motor. Plus a few extras that come in boxes. Not trying to be cynical, but all things considered, it was over double the price tag of a 325 at the time and more than your standard M, obviously. It doesn't make sense. That's one expensive plaque and sticker.

[JJJames]

The government says otherwise lol. You can't bring a 1990 car over here, until 2015. It has to be 25 years old from it's production date.

Fair - only 14 months away though, and Evo II's are older (http://www.pistonheads.com/classifieds/used-cars/bmw/e30-m3-86-92/bmw-3-series-m3-evolution-ii--now-sold/1527963). In Canada the rule is 15 years, so we're good to go up here.

[sjpgoalie]

Ohh, my bad. I can't see user locations on my phone app for the forum.

[Sporaticzz]

Definitely a waste. What a shame.

[erikerikerik]

The government says otherwise lol. You can't bring a 1990 car over here, until 2015. It has to be 25 years old from it's production date.

That LTW will never be worth more than what it sells at. These will never appreciate further than they already have.

Buy a car for 100,000 and end up not even being able to insure it for 50k :rofl I couldn't even drive that thing, because I would feel like a moron if a wrecked a car that I paid that much for...when it is merely a clean, slower example of my own.

Just because they made less than 150...I mean, yeah...those 150 cars are "rare", but they're rare simply due to that. It's a 2900# e36 and they happened to make 150...but only for the US market and that's it. The M3 LTW badge is what makes that car "rare" and expensive. That's all you would be paying for.

It's a 316 with aluminum panels, neither have ac, the radio removed, swaybar added, and the 95 USM subframes, shocks/struts, brakes, trans, and motor. Plus a few extras that come in boxes. Not trying to be cynical, but all things considered, it was over double the price tag of a 325 at the time and more than your standard M, obviously. It doesn't make sense. That's one expensive plaque and sticker.

actually, the rules have changed. Its 15 years, and you have to have items installed on it that where installed on the US / Canadian version of that vehicle. You are allowed to have a different engine (ie, Euro spec). And you no longer need a bond to bring it in.

This is one of the few times we are falling in line with Canada, not the other way around.

[cky751]

Guys, I found him! Here's the guy who determines what is smart to do with money and what isn't!! He's right here!!! :lol

Remember this saying - Everybody is somebody's fool. While you're calling someone a fool, there are people doing the same thing to you, and me! I have a feeling more people think we are foolish compared to the person who can buy a $100,000 car. ;)

I see what you're saying, but when I do invest in stuff I usally get pretty good deals. I have no idea if you buy the first thing that comes up or wait and research for a while like i do.

[kovrol]

worth or not worth...everything depends on the buyers.
There was 2 E30 M3s in the UK, one had 0kms!!!! the other had 500-600kms!!!!! They were sold for 110k usd and 80k usd as I remember, but the E30 M3s are getting rarer now.

[sjpgoalie]

actually, the rules have changed. Its 15 years, and you have to have items installed on it that where installed on the US / Canadian version of that vehicle. You are allowed to have a different engine (ie, Euro spec). And you no longer need a bond to bring it in.

This is one of the few times we are falling in line with Canada, not the other way around.

Nope. Read the laws. They're right on the NHTSA website. Who is importing a car from overseas, when you can get it here. That makes zero sense. This is the case for a car that you can already get here, directly from Canada. I have two friends that have had Canadian cars. We had to swap kmh dials and go through it. One was a civic, the other was a Camry. Both imported from Canada as mentioned. This also may only be the case solely with Canada.

Also, any motor that was not sold in the states, is not epa tested and therefore illegal. Which sucks, but no one notices and if it passes emissions, you won't raise red flags. Usually. All euro swaps in our e36 realm are illegal. Most people do not understand that. You also have to ship them in two separate pieces, otherwise you're risking confiscation. They will force you to redirect your shipment. Then you have to find another place to have it dropped in Canada or Mexico, depending on what port it comes into...whilst you figure out how the hell you're ongoing to get it into the states after you're on their radar from the first time around. The block and head need to be split from each other. People don't know this either and ship whole motors on pallets. Most dudes sneaking Japanese motors in are doing it right, because so many people used to get caught. It seems like bimmer guys here in the US don't do any research and just buy some, then wait for it to arrive at their doorstep. When you split the motor, it is no longer a motor by law and can be shipped without spa approval.

Take an e30M evo (any derivative of the evo) or a euro M3. You couldn't get those models here. They're not NHTSA or EPA approved. Same title and chassis, totally different than our models. Can't bring them over, until they are 25. They were never crash tested or epa approved. If you buy four or five of them and have each one destroyed through tests that cost $400,000 a pop, yeah, if it passes, you have free reign to import them after anything containing fluid or gases are epa approved.

This is why you can import an R33 GT-R. Motorex or whatever pony'd up a few million and had the cars tested. They passed and now you can import and register one legally. There is also a list on the NHTSA website that shows which cars can be imported currently. Motorex was also importing cars in pieces. I'm talking cutting the chassis up and then trying to make enough modifications to the actually chassis that would render it a registerable kit car. They got caught doing a lot of shady stuff. The owner and his business' actions are a major reason from the crackdowns on importing cars and epa approved units. Dude fled the country, because he was going to jail and made some nasty enemies. Japanese businessman IIRC. No one knows where he is. Been years.

Pretty sure you're thinking of the petition that was going around within then coast year or so.

[GG Allin]

actually, the rules have changed. Its 15 years, and you have to have items installed on it that where installed on the US / Canadian version of that vehicle. You are allowed to have a different engine (ie, Euro spec). And you no longer need a bond to bring it in.

This is one of the few times we are falling in line with Canada, not the other way around.

In other words, it's still not worth it until the car becomes 25 years old. If it were easy and cheap, you'd be seeing a lot of cars coming over.

[sjpgoalie]

It's not even that. Why would someone import a car that you can buy here? JDM'ness or something? I don't understand.

Also, yeah...you can have a different motor...ie NOT euro spec or jdm. The EPA strongly disagrees. You can have a different motor...like me having an s52 swap. It is spa approved and was sold here and the US. I can import it from anywhere else, like south Africa who got it briefly. That is legal. You can bring it over here if the motor/transnis epa approved and the car was crash tested if it's both that you're importing.

Also, consider the fact that BMW only sold OBDII cars over here, so different obd system, lack of epa and nhtsa approval...now I'm becoming rhetorical.

Either way, the laws are out there. The fifteen year rule may also be solely between us and Canada.

[erikerikerik]

Either way, the laws are out there. The fifteen year rule may also be solely between us and Canada.

Bingo, its 15 year between US and Canada.

And if you work with in the law, using Canada as a stop over you can bring just about any 15 year old car over.

PS: The Euro spec Canadian M3 is on the good to import list simply because they added / changed the rear glass and added a 3rd break light.

[jdantuono]

I thought the LTWs had no AC? This one does?