Opinions on a 1991 M5?

[Glenn 328is]

There is one for sale near me and I am interested in it. Any help from current or previous owners would help. Is this car fast, reliable, better than my car (from stock?) - as far as handling, braking, so forth? Thanks a lot. This is the ad:

1991 BMW M5 , 5 spd, black/black, leather, 17'' BBS rims, 357 hp, Dinan chip, Dinan stage 2 suspension, Dinan stainless exhaust, new tires, Atlanta vehicle never seen snow, sunroof, ABS, am/fm cass. w/CD changer, in-dash car phone, fully loaded & much more, 145,000 kms

[dubumb]

The car is fast--but doesn't have traction control so you'd have to be careful :)

[Glenn 328is]

Do you have any 1/4 mile times and braking distances for a stock 1991 M5? I can't find any. Thanks.

[bähnstormer]

the 91 m5 is a STEAL for under 25 grand
what is he asking?

this car has been modified, so i'd be very very
VERY careful buying it...full 200-300 dollar inspection
at 2 dealers b4 i even thought about buying it

as far as speed, well if u put your mini and 328 together
it beats em both =]
heheh i'll look for numbers

[Gop-Dogg]

1991 BMW M5 , 5 spd, black/black, leather, 17'' BBS rims, 357 hp, Dinan chip, Dinan stage 2 suspension, Dinan stainless exhaust, new tires, Atlanta vehicle never seen snow, sunroof, ABS, am/fm cass. w/CD changer, in-dash car phone, fully loaded & much more, 145,000 kms

Well, it'll run circles around both your current cars combined. That 357 HP number from just a chip + exhaust is Dinan marketing BS (the owner probably just added the individual suggested gains from the components together). The stock car has 310 HP. 325 HP is more realistic. The milage is a little on the high side from what I've seen for `91 US cars, so a realisitc price is in the $16,000 - $18,000 range.

I believe mblaster has the Dinan Stage II suspension on his `91 M5, so he can give impressions on how it will ride.

[count_schemula]

No traction control?




:buttrock keep it real!

[Gop-Dogg]

No traction control?

:buttrock keep it real!


Nope. No electronic aids beyond ABS.

As Rob Levinson so eloquently put it, the E39 M5 is a gracefull gazelle while the E34 is a bellowing water buffalo. :D

[BlueRex]

good site www.bmwe34m5.com

[Glenn 328is]

The guy is asking $22,900 CDN. I will try and check it out in the next few weeks...

[Mblaster]

Well, it'll run circles around both your current cars combined. That 357 HP number from just a chip + exhaust is Dinan marketing BS (the owner probably just added the individual suggested gains from the components together). The stock car has 310 HP. 325 HP is more realistic. The milage is a little on the high side from what I've seen for `91 US cars, so a realisitc price is in the $16,000 - $18,000 range.

I believe mblaster has the Dinan Stage II suspension on his `91 M5, so he can give impressions on how it will ride.

Yes 325hp is more like it w/chip only. I have stage3 on my car which adds the camber kit. This is a MUST HAVE for serious driving. Ride quality is also affected by the shocks. I chose the Konis because I believe they are superior to Bilsteins in my application. I would find out how old the mods are as that exhaust hasn't been available for some time. Most of these cars now are high mile, but if properly maintained can last a long time even when driven hard. You need to have the car inspected and have the records reviewed by someone who knows E34M5's. I'd find out if the valves have been done, that is usually between 100-130K. If not you are looking at around 3K for new valves. After that the bottoms are good for a long time. Figure the car has about 7-8K worth of dinan gear. Figure another 4-5k to fix things and maybe add a goody or two. These cars are not for everyone, they are raw, beastly things that love to run. Theres no traction control, skid control, or moron control, you have to give it respect and the car will reward you with a unique driving experience that is very addictive.

[Skipper5]

These cars are not for everyone, they are raw, beastly things that love to run. Theres no traction control, skid control, or moron control, you have to give it respect and the car will reward you with a unique driving experience that is very addictive.


hehehe. sounds like a woman! especially the moron control and addiction. man do i love women! (and E34 M5s!) :alright

[MaloventEvil]

This, in my opinion, is the best car of all time next to the Ferrari F40 and the Maclaren F1. If you dont get it you are making a big mistake.

[stoneweed1]

the 91 m5 is a STEAL for under 25 grand
what is he asking?

this car has been modified, so i'd be very very
VERY careful buying it...full 200-300 dollar inspection
at 2 dealers b4 i even thought about buying it

as far as speed, well if u put your mini and 328 together
it beats em both =]
heheh i'll look for numbers


if its been modified using DINAN stuff or any other stuff, why would u have to be even more careful than if it wasn't. i would think that positive modifications would help and not hinder? :rolleyes:

[Gop-Dogg]

If it's been moded, then there is an increased chance that it's been flogged vs. one that's bone stock.

[bähnstormer]

Theres no traction control, skid control, or moron control, you have to give it respect and the car will reward you with a unique driving experience that is very addictive.

wait since when did they start putting trac and skid on cars? i thought
everyone already KNEW how to drive ? heheheh jk...man i see some poor
and down right bad drivers on the road - it almost makes me want to become
a cop. :stickoutt

[dubumb]

Here are the specs for the stock e34 m5...

315bhp @ 6,900rpm
265lb/ft @ 4,750rpm
Turning circle 11.0m

[Mblaster]

If it's been moded, then there is an increased chance that it's been flogged vs. one that's bone stock.
I don't know what you are talking about...these cars will never be driven here in america as they were designed for, which is sustained high speed driving. 95% of the time an E34 M5 will never be driven to its design limitations. But that last 5% is the fun. :D
Even guys that track their M5's regularly don't hurt em.

[M5EURO]

it being an older car, make sure it is in proper condition!
if it is, grab it!

[Glenn 328is]

Could you gusy compare the M5 I listed above to this one? If I were to get one, which one would be the way to go? I don't know how much this one is, but I have seen some over $30k cdn...

1995 BMW M5, M540i, #4 of 32 made, one owner, fully maint by BMW, 117,000 hwy kms, 18'' M wheels, 6 spd, EDC 3 Race tuned M susp, M brakes, carbon fiber & leather int, new Pilot sport tires, brakes

[brahtw8]

The best published numbers I have seen for an E34 M5 (3.6 liter, not Euro 3.8) were from Car and Driver, around June or July of 1990. It ran 0-60 in 5.6 seconds and the quarter in high 13s. Most other magazine reports were a few tenths slower. The Manufacturer claim was around 6.1 seconds to sixty.

M5s are highway or long-track cars. Their strengths are above 60 MPH. Third is the money gear, and good for about 105 MPH at redline.

I am still debating an E34 or E28 as my next purchase, in a year or two.

[Dark Helmet]

couple things... the Dinan suspension bits are a plus because it means the load-leveling has been removed. and outside its poor reputation for reliability and the fact that the shocks are about a grand EACH... the dinan dampers (koni?) are a good thing.

now, beyond that. good friend of mine has a 91 with 70+K on it, and he's had very very few problems, and he tracks the car a lot. it does go through tires, but shat do you expect. his has either a dinan or dysilva chip and he did the quarter mile in 13.8 IIRC.... maybe it was 13.4....

amazing car, IF it is in excellent condition. it was the last of the truely hand-built M-cars, and it shows, every one that I've seen is rock-solid.

drive the car, see if it is for you.... there is no other way. I've driven my friend's and it is amazing... not for me, but amazing nonetheless.

[Mblaster]

Could you gusy compare the M5 I listed above to this one? If I were to get one, which one would be the way to go? I don't know how much this one is, but I have seen some over $30k cdn...

1995 BMW M5, M540i, #4 of 32 made, one owner, fully maint by BMW, 117,000 hwy kms, 18'' M wheels, 6 spd, EDC 3 Race tuned M susp, M brakes, carbon fiber & leather int, new Pilot sport tires, brakes
Is it an M5 or a M540? Can't be both... :confused:

[E34nication]

Is it an M5 or a M540? Can't be both... :confused:


i think he is looking @ 2 different cars. :dunno:

[brahtw8]

Is it an M5 or a M540? Can't be both... :confused:

Sounds like the 2nd car, the 1995, is an M540i. That model did exist in Canada, and was close, but not identical, to the US 540i M-Sport.

[E34nication]

can't go wrong with either car IMO

[brahtw8]

That depends what kind of block is sitting in the M540i. If it still has a Nikasil block, I would stay away from it.

I would rather have the M5, even though the M540i is a little more useable day to day owing to its superior low end torque.

[Glenn 328is]

The 1995 is an M540i. Check out this website to understand...

http://www.kindel.com/bmw/how_to_identify.htm

[E34nication]

i would love to get my hands on an m540 steering wheel...

[norman]

the e34 M is not for everyone, u gotta drive one to see...around town below 4k rpm, it's kinda "sluggish", you need to rev it to enjoy the true nature of the car, i've been on track with some at sears point, a particular one was driven by an instructor and it was pretty awesome to watch...

[brahtw8]

the e34 M is not for everyone, u gotta drive one to see...around town below 4k rpm, it's kinda "sluggish", you need to rev it to enjoy the true nature of the car, i've been on track with some at sears point, a particular one was driven by an instructor and it was pretty awesome to watch...

That is why BMW pulled the M5 from the US after the 1993 model year. The 540i, with low end torque, was better suited for american driving conditions and tastes.

I'd rather have the M.

[norman]

it's all about high speed driving with this car which we can't do here in the US with our speed limit at around 65mph or so...too bad

[Mblaster]

it's all about high speed driving with this car which we can't do here in the US with our speed limit at around 65mph or so...too bad
Too bad for who? :devillook

[mattjw916]

I'll take an E34 M5 anyday...

isn't that one of the cars from the long chase in Ronin?

[Mr Project]

Yeah, the 'bad guys' were in an E34 M5 in Ronin. Luckily, it magically turned into a 520i or something as it fell off the road. :D

[brahtw8]

Too bad the chase scene was unrealistic, in that the good guys were able to keep up in their obviously inadequate Peugeots. You could tell the M5 was slowing down after it would weave through traffic.

Look what the Peugeot lovers had to say about it:

http://www.peugeotclub.org/peugeot/archive/98_9/0623.html

M4?? Not likely.

[mattjw916]

i loved the chase scene... it is one of the reasons i became a BMW fanatic... just need an E34 M5 now

[Gop-Dogg]

i would love to get my hands on an m540 steering wheel...

It's just a pre-`99 E36 M3 steering wheel.

[TBrown]

As long as it's in decent shape, go for it. you won't regret it. I love my '91 M5 and will probably never get rid of it. It is definitely made for top speed. Above 70 there is almost nothing on the road that can touch it. I saw 140, before I saw the dip in the road that would have been a jump at that speed, before I slowed down. The early lower geared cars will suposedly reach the 160s and the higher geared 6 speed equipped 3.8 cars will get to almost 180. I drive mine to work everyday and have had very few problems. They are great cars that are way too much fun.

[shady]

LOL 22 canadian, whats that? like 15 american... Id take it

[dirty.deeds]

I bought a 1990 3.6 M5 today :buttrock ...It does the bad side of 155mph without any trouble...It sticks well in the bends and stops when it should.The only thing that could be a pain is that you could loose your licence easily with it...

[Mblaster]

How about some pics of the S5? :eyecrazy:

[84 GRANDSPORT]

The car is fast--but doesn't have traction control so you'd have to be careful :)Neither does my 450hp Vette & I have no problem! :buttrock

[jimmyz2]

Nope. No electronic aids beyond ABS.

As Rob Levinson so eloquently put it, the E39 M5 is a gracefull gazelle while the E34 is a bellowing water buffalo. :D
Well,maybe a gracefull pregnant gazelle. :stickoutt

[gato]

Well,maybe a gracefull pregnant gazelle. :stickoutt

:lol: