How faster is the E92 (coupe ) 3.35i auto than the E93 ( convertible ) 3.35i auto .

[zagros]

i sold my 2011 e93 3.20d ( manual gb ) to buy a 3.35i .
i know the e93 convertible is realy nice looking but i also love performace , and by performance i mean 0-100 timing and drifting etc .
i also know there is a big difference in weight between the E92 and the E93 and i wonder how much difference it will make in seconds .
lets take for base 0-100 timing , 0-200 timing and 0-Vmax timings
i need precise numbers and not opinions please .
the thread is only and only about the difference of performance caused by the weight between those 2 cars.
so please try not to give opinions and say stuff like " go for the conv ! " i need precise and technical information . thank you .
ps : also heard that not all 3.35i are twin turbo . what is the exact horse power and torque differense between a single charged and twin turbo 3.35i . btw both the e93 3.35i and e92 3.35i i am thinking of buying will be automatic gearboxes .

[ndog14]

I'm not sure where to begin because your english is not the best but you are from Turkey so I give you the benefit of trying, so now I shall ramble. The way and what you are asking is as if you are concerned about maximizing performance, but if you were you would not consider a convertible or an automatic. If you want to maximize performance get a sedan or coupe, in a manual. The coupe weighs less but the sedan is more aerodynamic and has better structural rigidity, B-pillars. In the USA the 2007-2010 335s had a petrol twin turbo i6 engine, the N54. In the USA in 2011 it was replaced by a petrol single, twin-screw turbo i6 engine, the N55. The N54 has so far been the better tuning platform. Also, BMW has been accused of sandbagging the power of the N54, not so with the N55. And an N54 335 modded to the price of an M3 will poo all over the M3 except on the most twisty of tracks.

I hope this helps. Just ask, we're all here to help each other out.

[zagros]

well im thinking of buying the Dinan limited slip diffrential , high performance intercooler , high capacity oil cooler system , carbon fiber cold aie intake , free flow exhausts and stage 3 engine software .
my E93 3.20 was manual and i was in love with it but i bought it from france and in turkey it is extremely hard to find the car you want in manual , there are actualy no manual E92 3.35i or E93 3.35i for sale in turkey . people say the only manual E93 in turkey was mine .
buying a sedan is not among my toughts because i do not want a 4 door car , only 2 doors i want .
finnal decision between many cars is either the E93 3.35 or E92 3.35 so now the thing that will make me buy one or the other is the difference in seconds ( 0-100 / 0-200 / 0-Vmax ) due to the weight gap between those two cars .
i realy wany a manual car but sadly there are no manual 3.35i in turkey , unless i order one which will be an F30 and much more expensive . im buying a 2k7-2k9 3.35i. if the difference between those 2 cars in matter of 0-100 is like 0.1 sec or less i would consider buying the conv , otherwise ill go with the coupe .
do you have any precise info about both cars timings ?
thank you so much for answering and trying to understand what i write ^^

[ndog14]

I did a quick search and found this,

I saw a few different results ranging from 4.8 to 5.1, but 4.8 is the lowest. Edmunds, fairly reputable, got a 2007 (N54) E92 335 (automatic) to 0-60mph (0-99kph) in 4.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile in 13.3@105.9mph, http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/2007/road-test2.html


For the convertible I kept finding 5.5 seconds.

Yes, the coupe is significantly faster than the convertible.

[NFerber]

The coupe weighs less but the sedan is more aerodynamic and has better structural rigidity, B-pillars.

Both the coupe and the sedan have B pillars


I did a quick search and found this,

I saw a few different results ranging from 4.8 to 5.1, but 4.8 is the lowest. Edmunds, fairly reputable, got a 2007 (N54) E92 335 (automatic) to 0-60mph (0-99kph) in 4.8 seconds and a 1/4 mile in 13.3@105.9mph, http://www.edmunds.com/bmw/3-series/2007/road-test2.html


For the convertible I kept finding 5.5 seconds.

Yes, the coupe is significantly faster than the convertible.

0-60 times all vary. Each group tests them slightly different, different locations, temps, elevation... Unless you really put them next to each other, there are too many variables. All things the same, the coupe will be slightly faster due to the vert weighing more (~400 lbs) due to added bracing and all the retractable roof parts. But I don't see it being .7 seconds slower then the coupe.

[ndog14]

Do you mean that tiny b-pillar?
http://www.tunerzine.com/articles/233/1.jpg

As I said, I found 0-60 times all between 4.8 and 5.1 seconds. 4.8 was just the fastest result for the coupe. While 5.5 was the fastest and most frequent time for the convertible. I'm not denying there are many variables to 0-60 times but the coupe is quicker.

[zagros]

Those information are precious for me atm and i thank you for helping me trough this issue , i think ill definatly go with the coupe , and i found a coupe 3.35i twin turbo for a good price , sadly still no manuals :/ but ill keep searching . Thanks again for helping , you were kind :)

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İ have one last question , (E92)what are the technical differences between the 3.35i and 3.35i twin turbo
, by technical i mean hp/ torque and ofc 0-100 timing . İ know im asking too many questions but i need o buy the right car .

[Bavarian Black]

I have the 335i 08 build coupe and have done o-60 mph in 4.1 seconds. However, i have a stage 2 aFe dci, Turbo tuner 2 and active autowerke waste gage and BOV. So that obviously makes a huge diff then stock. I have used the BMW power meter with great success and perfected my time accordingly. To bad I just can't post my results hear...

Here are my results on BMW Lebanon Group

http://www.facebook.com/groups/Bmw.club.lebanon/permalink/10151582760719421/

[Ian1973]

If performance is your thing, hardtop convertibles should be avoided. The difference is completely noticeable.

Still don't understand 0-60 importance, driver and traction are too much up in the air to make that a remotely viable measuring stick.

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Those information are precious for me atm and i thank you for helping me trough this issue , i think ill definatly go with the coupe , and i found a coupe 3.35i twin turbo for a good price , sadly still no manuals :/ but ill keep searching . Thanks again for helping , you were kind :)

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İ have one last question , (E92)what are the technical differences between the 3.35i and 3.35i twin turbo
, by technical i mean hp/ torque and ofc 0-100 timing . İ know im asking too many questions but i need o buy the right car .

I'm not sure what you are talking about here. A 335 is a twin turbo(though really a single turbo), where are you coming up that there are non turbo versions? All 335's, whether N54's or N55's are rated the same power.

[NFerber]

07 - 10 335i with the N54 motor is a twin turbo. 11+ 335i with the N55 motor is a single twin-scroll turbo. Both are very similar, and are rated at the same power output. Driving both you wouldn't notice a difference. But if you are looking to tune, there is a lot more support for the N54

[zagros]

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[Ian1973]

Have you ever thought to go to an internet site like, oh I don't know, Google? It's amazing the information you can actually read for yourself rather than bumping threads that have been answered already.

[ndog14]

Have you ever thought to go to an internet site like, oh I don't know, Google? It's amazing the information you can actually read for yourself rather than bumping threads that have been answered already repeatedly.

Fixed that for you.

[Pilgrim]

1) Go to Edmunds.com
2) Look up each vehicle
3) Compare the specs on each - HP, 0-60, etc...should all be there.

[ramos777]

07 - 10 335i with the N54 motor is a twin turbo. 11+ 335i with the N55 motor is a single twin-scroll turbo. Both are very similar, and are rated at the same power output. Driving both you wouldn't notice a difference. But if you are looking to tune, there is a lot more support for the N54

I can actually tell the difference and it isn't slight.

[Ian1973]

can you tell from just the difference between two cars, or many? Could be just the difference between a Friday car and Wednesday car. lol