Test 'n Tune! What'd'ja run?

[John V]

Yeah, so, I officially suck. And I hate my tires. :sh1a:

Those Ecstas are squirmy as all getout.. they give absolutely no feedback as to WTF they're doing. I was dropping pressures in the damn things all day to try to get them to roll over a little bit - and by the end of the day they felt "OK" but still squirmy. I'm hoping I just have to burn some of the excess tread off of them before they'll tighten up - but I'm not holding my breath. I miss my Victoracers :(

Also - M3 steering is ridiculously slow. I was sawing at the wheel like a madman through all of those slaloms. Enough so that my power steering was groaning at the end of every run ;)

Anyway, my best clean run was a 64.7, good enough for 2nd place. You BSP guys smoked me by over four seconds! :eek:

John V

[G.T.]

edit: never mind...saw your post in the track forum

[///Mracer]

It was a fun event. I think my best time was a 60.8xx. Did anyone check the final standings for BSP? Due to my injury :bawl from running after a cone I took off before it was posted. I think Glenn took top honors but myself, Erick and Glenn were all within .5 seconds of one another. Good job fellas!!!

John V., good job in BS, I was going to stick around and watch the afternoon runs but I could not walk / stand on my leg to well (I think I tore my calf muscle).

Matt

[John V]

It was a fun event. I think my best time was a 60.8xx. Did anyone check the final standings for BSP? Due to my injury :bawl from running after a cone I took off before it was posted. I think Glenn took top honors but myself, Erick and Glenn were all within .5 seconds of one another. Good job fellas!!!

John V., good job in BS, I was going to stick around and watch the afternoon runs but I could not walk / stand on my leg to well (I think I tore my calf muscle).

Matt

Thanks, I don't feel like it was a good job - there isn't much competition in BS this year, but I guess it's just the first event...

I think you took the win, Matt. The posted results showed you in first, and Glenn second. They had Eric in SM2 :confused:

John Doby won street mod!!! :cool:

You all did very well, your times were fantastic!

[kenkamm]

I think I came in 5th behind 3 STis and a vette in AS, despite finally being on R-compound tires. I don't know if my Ecstas need more time to scrub in or not, but they felt a little greasy (compared to the street tires I drove on last year) even though they are shaved and heat cycled.

Oh yeah... I know what the problem is... I don't know how to drive. :confused: I think the top STi was 62.xxx. My best time was 65.750 or so.

Ken

[magnetic1]

ya.. they misclassed me from last year... but I guess that's why its a test and tune.. so they can test/tune their software too :)

I ended up 4th in BSP because they carried over a cone off a rerun.. I didnt know such a rule existed, but I guess if you knock a cone and get a rerun, it carries over to your next run... <shrug> Though I think I hit a cone AFTER I got the rerun call.. o well... test/tune, who cares.

So BSP ended up like this (not counting my carry over cone):

1) Glenn @ 60.4X
2) Matt @ 60.8X
3) Eric @ 61.0X
4) Andrej (C4 Vette) @ 62.X

And congrats to Doby... he did place 1st! Last I heard, Ron Katona (even though he was running SMFun) hit cones on all 4 of his runs.

If you guys havent registered for 4/18 DO IT NOW!!!! Registration is filling up REAL fast!!! BSP should get interesting next event as we add Lee Piccone to the mix!

[G.T.]

Uhhhh.......which times are correct - the one that John V. saw posted, or the ones Eric listed above?

[John V]

Uhhhh.......which times are correct - the one that John V. saw posted, or the ones Eric listed above?

Guess I shouldn't have said anything because those posted times are never official... I saw Eric in SM2 but it said he coned on all four runs which made his best time 61.xx +1. I don't know where the final BSP times were - I just saw that Matt was unofficially in 1st.

[vjlax18]

What were Ron Katona's times though? He may have coned on all 4 but what were his times.

I've got soooooo much to learn this year. I plan on being able to keep up with the BSP boys by the end of the season... gotta aim high. :D

[magnetic1]

Glenn.... now that I remember... Matt was in 1st... in the PRELIMINARY results.

They had you down hitting cones on your 60.4X run.... :/

[vjlax18]

Glenn.... now that I remember... Matt was in 1st... in the PRELIMINARY results.

They had you down hitting cones on your 60.4X run.... :/

No, they had with with a clean 61.xx which was wrong.

[magnetic1]

you know what I want now... I want a F125 shifter kart... holy shit those things are fast...

Vic Madrid ended up FTD of like 56.X before I left.... tires are like $20 each... haha

[FT@SGP]

So great the season started :D

The STi was not out of the shop, so I drove a customer's Evo tuning his suspension. I loved the course, the day and the social aspects lol. Had a lot of fun.

I could not get good launches with the Evo fearing clutch burn, and it was carrying RA1s, which were quite well actually, but probably not up to par with Hoosiers.

Ended up with a 64.7 and 3rd in ESP. I think the ESP and STU classes are going to be a lot of fun for sure.

Burak got first place in AS with a 62.3 with his STi, was fun to watch him and Glenn in his M3 run through the course.

[robmarch]

you know what I want now... I want a F125 shifter kart... holy shit those things are fast...

Vic Madrid ended up FTD of like 56.X before I left.... tires are like $20 each... haha

I wouldn't mind picking one of those up myself....any idea what a used one goes for and how much they are to maintain per year?

[John V]

Ended up with a 64.7 and 3rd in ESP. I think the ESP and STU classes are going to be a lot of fun for sure.

Burak got first place in AS with a 62.3 with his STi, was fun to watch him and Glenn in his M3 run through the course.

Saw ya walking by Ken's car as we were getting to the line. My brain was in "Park" and I failed to wave back until you were past :embarrasm

Did you ever show up for your work assignment? They were on the horn for 10 minutes looking for you... "FATIH SELEKLER, you are in BIG TROUBLE" :D

[G.T.]

They had you down hitting cones on your 60.4X run.... :/

Nope, no cones on my fastest run. I know I nailed that last one.

[///Mracer]

I think I saw a corner worker run after a cone on the slalom section during your last run but I do not know if it was knocked down or if they were just checking it? Regardless a 60.4 was flying!!!!

[kenkamm]

I wouldn't mind picking one of those up myself....any idea what a used one goes for and how much they are to maintain per year?

I did a quick google search and found that a used kart might be around $2500, and full blown, new, competitive karts are upwards of $14,000. Not sure about maintenance though.

[G.T.]

I think I saw a corner worker run after a cone on the slalom section during your last run

once i was so effin' stoned i though i saw a ufo. it was awesome!

hehehe...seriously though, matt...if you're correct about the cone, congrats on the win!

[///Mracer]

once i was so effin' stoned i though i saw a ufo. it was awesome!

hehehe...seriously though, matt...if you're correct about the cone, congrats on the win!

How knows what I saw??? I could have gotten you and Eric mixed up because I watched him hit sooo many cones :D

See you guys at the next showdown in 3 weeks.

[kenkamm]

I didn't hit a single cone on 5 runs, so I might not have been pushing hard enough. :anger

[vjlax18]

Learn the exterior size of your car you will...

[magnetic1]

I could have gotten you and Eric mixed up because I watched him hit sooo many cones

lol.... everytime I have tough competition, I end up coning caus I try too hard to cut em close... looks like a lot of cones for me this year :(

Glenn, maybe they carried over a cone from a re-run like they did for me?

[G.T.]

That has to be the most nonsensical rule ever...carrying cone penalties over from a previous run. I have a feeling they didn't expalin things correctly to you when you inquired about your time.

[///Mracer]

That has to be the most nonsensical rule ever...carrying cone penalties over from a previous run. I have a feeling they didn't expalin things correctly to you when you inquired about your time.

agree, that rule is bogus. What is the point of a re-run then if you are charged for a carry-over cone penalty :confused:

[magnetic1]

I agree too, but apparently its in the rules... if you hit a cone BEFORE you stop for a rerun... :pissed:

[G.T.]

but that's just it. i didn't. on my 2nd run, the one i got a rerun for, i didn't cone at all. i stopped as i was supposed to, also.

[magnetic1]

:dunno

I can't remember now what the results said... <shrug>

O well... its only the test and tune :)

[vjlax18]

The prelim results said 61.xx as Glenn's best time, and it was NOT underlined, meaning no cone!

[magnetic1]

Underline means best time, not a coned run....

FYI, Tony Karts are like $4500 or so.... but you can get a Rotax or something for like $2k

[vjlax18]

I meant without a number under it

[FT@SGP]

Saw ya walking by Ken's car as we were getting to the line. My brain was in "Park" and I failed to wave back until you were past :embarrasm

Did you ever show up for your work assignment? They were on the horn for 10 minutes looking for you... "FATIH SELEKLER, you are in BIG TROUBLE" :D
LOL, honestly, I was quite distracted as well with two customers and ton of questions to anwer. I should have noticed you, sorry.

Yea, I worked during the first heat instead of 3rd, and did not report that I did. Too many people know me by name, darn it :( As I was walking by people, 1 out of 2 kept asking me "did you work?, did you report?" LOL.

[magnetic1]

John V, how did you end up compared to Greg O. in the S2000?

[John V]

John V, how did you end up compared to Greg O. in the S2000?

Oh, I got smoked as usual. He beat me by two seconds IIRC. Hell, I was closer to him last year.

But he is on Hoosiers this season. Dunno.

I can't help but think I should be closer to him than I am... it can't be all car... though watching his car go through the slaloms I see where I am losing my time. :mad:

John V

[vjlax18]

Since when have stock E36 M3's been able to keep up with Stock S2k's? Likewise where are the modified S2k's running in BSP?

[John V]

Since when have stock E36 M3's been able to keep up with Stock S2k's? Likewise where are the modified S2k's running in BSP?

Hmmm.... maybe time to dust off my petition letter to move the E36 M3 to F Stock.

[vjlax18]

I thought they were trying to move the S2k's to A Stock?

[G.T.]

And someone mentioned about Evos & STis moving to BSP. WTF?

[vjlax18]

Edit, I'm sutpid

[G.T.]

Yeah, in stock trim they're in A Stock, but in SP trim, ESP. For now.

[vjlax18]

cross classing? didn't know that

[magnetic1]

If that happens, Im buying a F125 shifter kart :)

Here is Vic's email to me:

> Eric- sell the huge ass SUV, buy a more reasonable one, and get a
> kart.
>
> Good 125 shifterkarts are out there for $3000-3500. I
> bought mine for $3600, with the stand ($120 otherwise). I then
> bought a spare set of used cast aluminum wheels for $50, a new set of
> spun aluminum wheels for $60, a used set of rain tires for $50, and a
> new set of tires for $160. I also had to buy a piston ring ($10),
> bearing ($12), circlips ($2), gaskets ($15), and fluids ($30).
>
> I will not likely bring it to Rosecroft. A pothole will kill the
> chassis.

[markr325is]

yeah eric.

sell that Denali!

the money you'll save on gas alone in a year might even be enough to pay for wear/tear items on a kart!

ran a 64.0 something on some 205 toyo RA1's that sat through the winter and many heat cycles on the street! I was really suprised to have noticed such a HUGE difference with my roll bar. The rear end of the car is much more stable. I felt even more connected w/ the car and couldn't wipe the grin off my facd after my first run.

this is gonna be a good year. I think i'm gonna run DSP at council events w/ my crappy toyo's, and STX at scca events on my 8 inch wide rims. Can't decide what tires yet though.

:D

[robmarch]

If that happens, Im buying a F125 shifter kart :)

Here is Vic's email to me:

> Eric- sell the huge ass SUV, buy a more reasonable one, and get a
> kart.
>
> Good 125 shifterkarts are out there for $3000-3500. I
> bought mine for $3600, with the stand ($120 otherwise). I then
> bought a spare set of used cast aluminum wheels for $50, a new set of
> spun aluminum wheels for $60, a used set of rain tires for $50, and a
> new set of tires for $160. I also had to buy a piston ring ($10),
> bearing ($12), circlips ($2), gaskets ($15), and fluids ($30).
>
> I will not likely bring it to Rosecroft. A pothole will kill the
> chassis.


that's it...I'm putting you on my ignore list if you keep showing me how cheap these things are.

think I could magically turn a 96 altima into a shifter kart? :devillook

[John V]

cross classing? didn't know that

Happens all the time, where do you think G Stock and H Stock cars go when they become street prepared cars?

The S2000, Z4 and Boxster are possibly being moved to AS next year, the SEB is soliciting member input and I have definitely sent my input.

I am not as concerned with getting smoked in BS this year - I knew that would happen - but more frustrated by how much slower I am going to be compared to where I was last year.

John V

[John V]

Glenn takes it! His cuisine reigns supreme!

http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/2004/Test-Tune-3-28-04.html

[robmarch]

John and Ken both ran their fastest times on their first run...interesting.

[///Mracer]

Congrats Glenn :clap:

[John V]

John and Ken both ran their fastest times on their first run...interesting.

Owned before editing.

We got reruns on our first runs, and the rerun (which happens at the end) them moved to the front.

[G.T.]

Glenn takes it! His cuisine reigns supreme!

http://solo.wdcr-scca.org/results/2004/Test-Tune-3-28-04.html

Wait 'til we get to the Cannabis Challenge! See, I got this idea for a different kind of pesto....