I think M bading is ok because

[rp99e39]

M stands for Motorsports it is a performance line of cars and Performance upgrades and acsserories from BMW just like Dinnan, AC Schnitzer, Ford Motorsports, Mazdaspeed, AMG so on, it is an acsserory why can't you upgrade your looks I don't hear anyone bashing fake dinnan's and AC Schnitzer's and buy the way BMW put's the M badge on all sport model Sterring wheels and Road Wheels because it's name is BMW M sport package and when you run an putting an M badge on is just the same as putting a Eibach, Remus, JL Audio, Breyton or any other decal or badge if you want to make a payment on ther car then you can tell them what to do with there car

[EMAXX]

So I'm guessing you have an ///M 528?

You do know your are going to get flame up the butt for this post, and that's not a good way to introduce yourself as a noob.

[Don Nguyen]

simple

preferences

just cause you dress like a skateboarder/surfer/baller doesnt mean you are one, you're just a walking advertisement, who pay the companies to advertise for them.

[cheaploopjob]

wow...thats all i gotta say

[v.b.]

I will put R325i

R stands for racing, yO!

[MMNJTWA]

i have an M3 PP (PIMP package of course)

gonna go rebadge my car on monday

[RobH]

If you feel that way, please make your car a mazdaspeed 528. If it wasn't born a M car, it ain't a M car and you are a poser if badge it that way.

[black_box]

Because there's more to an M than just body panels and stickers, you said it yourself, its about performance. Further to that, its performance straight from the factory, not nickel-and-dimed. Its a complete package. No one is saying you can't put an M badge on your car, its just that some people think less of you for doing so.

[Filip75]

I preffer de-badgin to placing something non-existent on. It's like that guy from DTM videos- Mustang GT-R (rotary) ;)

[umnitza]

hey, I thought I had a 332i :lol: they "baded" (<-- yes, misspelled) it wrong, I got this silly ///M on it...

[LinearX]

Originally posted by Filip75
I preffer de-badgin to placing something non-existent on. It's like that guy from DTM videos- Mustang GT-R (rotary) ;)

Rotary... with headers.


By the way, here are some periods to put into the original post: . . . . . . . . . .

[DINANISR3]

If your VIN # doesnt start with WBS... then an ///M sign doesnt belong.

[JSN]

no, because the "M" badge implies that the car was made by GmbH, an in house BMW tuner. I dont care what riced out body kit you buy, if it wasnt produced by GmbH it's not an M vehicle.

and 99% of fakers out there don't share your deep thoughts about the meaning of motorsport, they just want to impress people.

[actofgod22]

Yeah man, badges rock....I love My M3 Type-R Spec-V Type-S GT VR-4 S4

It's one bad ass ride!

[rp99e39]

There's no //M on my decklid but, they are on the wheels and sterring wheel because it came with car and came on the wheels. I was just saying if they want to badge it with an //M and they are happy, then what they heck is gonna hurt. You know and I know it's not a real //M but anyone that does not know E39's could not tell you the difference between a 528, 540 or M5 and half of them think they are 3 series for some reason. Man I did not know I was going piss people off over being ok with //M badging I know to keep my M inside the car on the sterring wheel or I may be shot. Now let's start all over from the begining and forget I said anything about any badging. Check out pic those are real wheels not replica's, real M5 Front cover and Real OE Halo's with real Xenon lamps from a 2000 3 series and a real lip spolier. I am not going to say any thing about replica parts I don't want to piss anybody else. also GmbH is to Germany as LLC or INC. (http://www.business-in-germany.de/en/research/businessguide/index.php?topcat=3&lang=en) is to the US it denotes there corporate status not you makes the //M cars if you look on Mercedes/Benz, they have GmbH on there door vin plate and I don't know if VW or Audi does or does not, I have not looked at a vin plate from those manufactures.

http://members.roadfly.org/rodp99e39/mrp.jpg

[Don Nguyen]

can you justify a honda who has undergone a whole body conversion to look like a m3 and then put a m badge on it ok?

[=BA=]

A lot of people here drive like a 318 with M-tech bodykit & suspension, but have the original 318 engine. They have a ///M badge on the left side of the of the trunklid, but have the normal 318C badge on the right side. Don't know if they are actually 'build' by M or not :dunno

Suppose that is ok, opposed to those who stick a regular ///M3 badge on their normal 3 series coupe.

[Garrett]

It's ok to be a "pozer", just so long as you know everybody around you is aware of the fact and your not fooling anyone...!

Poze all you want ..! I need something to laugh at while I am driving.

[NickM3]

I gotta go get some stikerz for my M3 SS

[axxessdenied]

Ok! The thing that pisses me off is not the fact that people badge their bimmers with ///M even though they aren't. It's when they try to actually PASS IT OFF as one. Like, if you go up to a person with a ///M badged 318 and you ask them if that is a real M3 and they say "Yes!'. That is what is not right. One of my mom's friend's boyfriend did that. He has a black 318i with an ///M badge on it (i think he bought it that way, actually). I asked him if thats an M3 and he said yes. I almost fucking dropped to the floor laughing.

[Aggieland81]

i dont like M badging, but if you have a lot of M stuff i can easily see DEbadging.

[sacred_318ti]

who gives a shiz if u got a m badge or not, if u'd like to its fine if u oppose havin one thats rite also, if u like the fame of havin an ///m just know that goin the same speed ur wastin more gas money and for the same insurance ur spendin more. Its all about ur confidence.just enjoy wutever u got

[Echo]

My 535is has factory ///M pinstripes on it and thus the badges, while small, are intigrated into the pinstripes on the rear quarterpanel... now, i must admit, it does look pretty cool, but that doesn't mean that it belongs there... When i have the car painted this coming march, the stripes are being replaced... without the ///M's... They don't belong....

BTW, what you said is just like putting a Type R sticker on any old honda... its the same damn thing...

[///M3an Machine]

I saw an x5 on the freeay yesterday with an M badge :biglaughb :biglaughb :biglaughb Put an M badge on your car if you want, but it's just as gay as a crx with Type R badges, or v6 stangs with cobra badges.

Thank god I haven't seen any fake Lightning's yet, probably too much work to try to pull it off with the wheels, bodykit & bumper, exhaust, suspension, etc. Too much work. Most people can't tell the difference between a 3-series and an M3 if you just changed the badge though, especially on the e36. Most people don't notice the mirrors or side molding or even the wheels, so people think they can get away with it, but enthusiasts know the difference so they just look like idiots to us.

[Don Nguyen]

if all you want is the m badge then why dont you just go buy a honda civic and throw in a m3 badge on that, it'll save you money, gas, and everything more that you want, since you dont really care about the car you drive anyways, as long as you have the badge.

[Serious]

*note to self*add ///M 528i to Fake M car hall of Fame.

[Serious]

if you do a full conversion meaning brakes, suspension,engine, interior etc. then i think its ok to rebadge it as an m3 because the car can stick up for its self and live up to the M name.

[surfacewound]

Motorsport is a division of BMW. When you buy a brand new M car off the lot, it's still 100% original BMW from conception to completion. It's just the product of the Motorsport division of BMW.

Places like Active Autowerke, Dinan, AC Schnitzer, etc. are third party businesses that make aftermarket performance products. How can you say they're the same?

BMW Motorsport is more like Ford's SVT division, MB's AMG division, etc. It's still PART of the car company.

Non M-series BMWs with the performance or sport package may share the Motorsport stripes inside, the ///M logo on the wheels/shifter etc. because BMW added a few higher performance features to the vehicle. But notice that they did NOT outfit an M logo anywhere near the car model's badge because BMW obviously didn't feel that those things qualified it to be an actual M car. It simply signifies that it is not a standard BMW without such features.

Even if you get a 318i and put a turbo on it and a dozen other performance mods, even though it could kill an M car it has no right to bear its name since it is NOT a Motorsport vehicle.

[PortalBMW]

Justify what you will but in the end your still a poser to the rest of us and thats what matters.

[ehlpitel]

i think its perfectly reasonable to put a m badge if youve invested a lot of monjey in m-tech stuff: body kits, cams, suspension........its the same as getting a dinan badge after spending some money at dinan

[PortalBMW]

Originally posted by ehlpitel
i think its perfectly reasonable to put a m badge if youve invested a lot of monjey in m-tech stuff: body kits, cams, suspension........its the same as getting a dinan badge after spending some money at dinan

Your logic boggles my mind.

[mrclam]

Originally posted by Serious
if you do a full conversion meaning brakes, suspension,engine, interior etc. then i think its ok to rebadge it as an m3 because the car can stick up for its self and live up to the M name.

....if anyone actually did that, it would cost far more than an M3.

[e30 Jeremy]

I agree with people who say putting an ///M badge on a non-///M car is like putting a Type-R sticker on a non-Type R.

[E36Eric]

Wait, you have a 528 and you want to put an m3 badge on it? I probably didnt read it right but nice. Do it, mang.

[Technomage]

Ur a fag if you put an ///M symbol on ur car cause ur gonna look like a jackass when you eaten by a ricer civic...and ur giving bwm ///m series a bad rap so save us the embarrasment.

[RRdawho?]

Originally posted by LinearX
Rotary... with headers.




Actually its Rotary w/ Pistons ;)
As for badges I dont really give a rats ass about them. All the purists go overboard to with the whole if its not WBS blah blah blah.


I find it more entertaining to blow by M's and have 318i on my trunk lid. Its fun to give people bad day's like that ;)

[Mark85]

Originally posted by Serious
if you do a full conversion meaning brakes, suspension,engine, interior etc. then i think its ok to rebadge it as an m3 because the car can stick up for its self and live up to the M name.

even if I had everything i wouldnt badge it as an M3, id leave it debadged and after i beat an M3 tell them its only a 325 and see what they say

but then again even id i had an M3 I would probably debadge it too because i dont like the badge

[BoostFed325]

Originally posted by Priscoj
Yeah man, badges rock....I love My M3 Type-R Spec-V Type-S GT VR-4 S4

It's one bad ass ride! i bet:devillook

[WebDev]

Ugh, saw an M330XI today. Bleah, gimme a break.

[calvin d]

Saw a really pretty burgundy 5 series on Saturday with a M badge on the back and sides. It had very nice wheels, it was lowered and as he was coming through the parking lot I had to stop and admire it until I noticed the fart can exhaust. I almost passed out, the car sounded mean though. I wanted to stop the guy and tell him not to drive the car again until he changed the exhaust on it.

[SickFinga]

Originally posted by JSN
no, because the "M" badge implies that the car was made by GmbH, an in house BMW tuner. I dont care what riced out body kit you buy, if it wasnt produced by GmbH it's not an M vehicle.



:confused: :laugh :laugh

Please tell me you just didnt post that
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=GmbH


If BMW didnt put M badge there, then there is no place for it, after or before mods.
BMW only realease 3 bimmers with M badge.

M535i
M635i
M540i

So unless you got one of those, dont waste your money on a thee badge that doesnt belong there

[iredlinemy///m3]

My ///M is de-badged.... probably by some civic driver that wanted an M badge...

After the trunk was re-painted, I liked the cleaner non-badge look... so I left it off.

[BoostFed325]

m badging is stupid.
why dont you want the badge?
why why why why whats the big deal.
cuz you want an m3 but you dont have one

i have an m3 engine on my 325 and im still not trying to get a badge

[mb10175]

M Badging: It's retarted, dont do it (unless you have a REAL ///M, of course).

[BabyM]

Originally posted by RRdawho?
I find it more entertaining to blow by M's and have 318i on my trunk lid. Its fun to give people bad day's like that ;)

What he said....My 328is has ///M badges on the sides (ie. not ///M3 badges). When I add a few more mods I will definitely not add the M3 badge. One because she didn't start life as an M3 and two, it's more fun to surprise with speed than disappoint with a putt-putt start.

[JSN]

Originally posted by SickFinga
:confused: :laugh :laugh

Please tell me you just didnt post that
http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?p=dict&String=exact&Acronym=GmbH

please tell me you didnt go to some stupid dictionary site and look up GmbH...

http://www.bmw.de/de/partner/ah_fiebig/BMWGroup/

GmbH is the in-house BMW tuner created in 1972. In 1992, BMW changed the name to "Motorsport", but many BMW enthusiasts still refer to it by it's original German marking.

:rolleyes:

[clumpymold]

I think you should get something like this and put an M3 badge on. This will be awesome! And no one will EVER know. In fact, I bet you could switch out the Toyota emblem with a BMW one. :biglaughb

Lemme guess. You're 18. You sound like someone who cares about what people think. If you didn't care (or don't want to "brag"), then you'd DEbadge your car. ;)

[clumpymold]

Oooh oooh....or you could do this. Get a Mitsubishi Galant and REbadge it 528i or 540i. Oh, and don't forget the BMW roundels (of course). :biglaughb

Sorry for the bad picture. Taken a LONG time ago while driving. That lame as$ driver thought he was SO hard too. I couldn't stop laughing!

[Don Nguyen]

or you can just do us all a favor and take off all the badges so when your car turns out to look something like this. Then the people who it doesnt matter to anyways wont know what kind of car it is and wont make the rest of us look bad.

http://www.jimmy540i.com/moron9999999997.jpg

[Section8]

Originally posted by Serious
if you do a full conversion meaning brakes, suspension,engine, interior etc. then i think its ok to rebadge it as an m3 because the car can stick up for its self and live up to the M name.

Heck... If I went through all that, I'd put my OWN damn initials on the car, the hell with //M or anything else..

I got M3 wheels on my 323, and I did not put the little //M square stickers in the little impressions for them, I opted not to carry the M badge, as my car clearly isn't, and won't be.

But do whatever you like. I don't mind. Unless you do the above (the full conversion) anyone who actually drives one and knows a margin about BMW cars will be able to spot the differences.

(Don't forget to add in the vents on the side!) :alright

[clumpymold]

Originally posted by Section8
Heck... If I went through all that, I'd put my OWN damn initials on the car, the hell with //M or anything else..


:lol:

That's a good one. So true too. ;)

[Dwayne]

Originally posted by JSN
please tell me you didnt go to some stupid dictionary site and look up GmbH...

http://www.bmw.de/de/partner/ah_fiebig/BMWGroup/

GmbH is the in-house BMW tuner created in 1972. In 1992, BMW changed the name to "Motorsport", but many BMW enthusiasts still refer to it by it's original German marking.

:rolleyes:

Good lord, please tell me you're not that dumb.

And why did you give us a link to a BMW dealer in Germany? What's that have to do with anything? Did you notice the GmbH in their name? It's a limited liability dealership.

GmbH means Gesellschaft mit Beschränkter Haftung, which just means that there's a limited liability. GmbH is NOT a company, it's just a designation for a type of company. BMW Motorsport is the actual name of the subdivision of BMW that creates the ///M cars, however, the name was changed to BMW M GmbH. BMW AG is official name of BMW, where AG just means Aktiengesellschaft, Aktien meaning stock (it's a stock-traded company).

[RobH]

You should look up poser.


Originally posted by bigboy
there's a huge difference between adding an M badge and adding a M3 badge.

do your hw and you will see that over seas non-M engined cars do carry a M badge (I believe in east asia they do in fact have M3series, ie 330's).

if a you can put an ACS badge for ACS mirrors and Kits, then an M badge should very well be allowed for Mtech Mirrors and Kits.

Yes, rebadging as a M3 is wrong, but rebadging as a M330 when it is justified should be okay, if you disagree look up "hypocrite."

bigboy

[JSN]

Originally posted by Dwayne
Good lord, please tell me you're not that dumb.

And why did you give us a link to a BMW dealer in Germany? What's that have to do with anything? Did you notice the GmbH in their name? It's a limited liability dealership.

GmbH means Gesellschaft mit Beschränkter Haftung, which just means that there's a limited liability. GmbH is NOT a company, it's just a designation for a type of company. BMW Motorsport is the actual name of the subdivision of BMW that creates the ///M cars, however, the name was changed to BMW M GmbH. BMW AG is official name of BMW, where AG just means Aktiengesellschaft, Aktien meaning stock (it's a stock-traded company).

yeah I ment to say BMW Motorsport GmbH was set up in 72, then changed to simply BMW M in 92

[JSN]

Originally posted by bigboy
there's a huge difference between adding an M badge and adding a M3 badge.

do your hw and you will see that over seas non-M engined cars do carry a M badge (I believe in east asia they do in fact have M3series, ie 330's).

if a you can put an ACS badge for ACS mirrors and Kits, then an M badge should very well be allowed for Mtech Mirrors and Kits.

Yes, rebadging as a M3 is wrong, but rebadging as a M330 when it is justified should be okay, if you disagree look up "hypocrite."

bigboy

jeez it's like attack of the newbs around here...

[Dwayne]

Originally posted by JSN
yeah I ment to say BMW Motorsport GmbH was set up in 72, then changed to simply BMW M in 92

Ok, just making sure :cool:

[ae86_16v]

Originally posted by Filip75
I preffer de-badgin to placing something non-existent on. It's like that guy from DTM videos- Mustang GT-R (rotary) ;)

:lol: yeah that was a funny ass video.

But, no I don't think M badging is okay unless it is a M car. Even with aftermarket parts it is still not a M car.

[EvilOne]

i got you all beat i saw a W/// 528i the other day...

oh ya and my car is going to be badged 320i

[Rory]

This 'M' badge situation is getting out of control over here in the UK.

Well M3 badges. It has got to the point where most e36 m3's you see on the road are actually replicas.

The is only compounded when most people who see my car ask, is it real? I go places and you can hear people saying, no it is a fake m3.

The problem is i believe stems from bmw themselves, and the way they have loosenend the reigns on M parts. It used to be very hard to obtain M parts over here without a chassis no. and some proof of ownership, nowadays it is a simple a going to the parts counter.

Offering cars like the 328i sport, which basically looked like an M3 besides the wheels, whilst nice for the guy who bought only destroys the exclusivity of the M name.

I could go on but my Chinese takeaway has just arrived. ;)

[stjobs]

Putting an M badge on a non M car makes you a gay poser. Then again, 90% of people who own real M cars never, ever race them. That's just as lame.

[RRdawho?]

316tds is very tempting too....

[rp99e39]

This was pasted from Invest in Germany (http://www.business-in-germany.de/en/index.php?redirect=http://www.business-in-germany.de/en/research/businessguide/index.php?topcat=3&lang=en)

German law provides for two major forms of corporations, the GmbH and the AG.

(well what do ya know GmbH=LLC)
GmbH
The GmbH (Gesellschaft mit beschränkter Haftung - limited liability corporation) is the corporate entity most commonly used for business enterprises in Germany. The structure of a GmbH is relatively straightforward and flexible. It is designed for private businesses (no IPO possible) with a clear and stable shareholder structure looking for full liability protection of their shareholders. The liability of a GmbH is limited to the value of its assets including its share capital.

(I DO NOT SEE ANYTHING ABOUT BMW OR M EXCEPT THE m IN GmbH WHICH COULD STAND FOR (G)et (m)y (b)rian (H)elp)

A GmbH is simpler to establish than an AG. Its bylaws (Gesellschaftsvertrag) are more easily adapted to shareholder requirements. Since it is usually closely-held, it is also not subject to as many regulations. Shareholders retain direct control over those appointed to manage the corporation.
A GmbH must have at least one shareholder (but is not restricted to a maximum number). Foreign individuals, partnerships or corporations may become shareholders of a GmbH.
A GmbH is formed by executing a deed of formation and bylaws (Gesellschaftsvertrag or Satzung) before a German notary. The bylaws must include the purpose, name, registered domicile and share capital of the corporation.
Since German corporation law is federal law, the registered domicile is of no importance for the laws governing the GmbH. Beside the registered domicile, a GmbH may maintain any number of branches throughout Germany. The registered domicile shall be the place where the GmbH operates its business or where the corporation’s management is located. It has to be in Germany

JSN (G)et (m)ore (b)ooks (H)urry

[Dwayne]

1. You just posted what I already said 9 posts above yours. That's pretty pointless, wouldn't you say?

2. " (G)et (m)y (b)rian (H)elp)" I really hope you see the irony in this. If you don't get it, stare at it for a while. Same thing with "Gm3bH " in your subject.

3. Since you're targetting JSN, did you not read this:


Originally posted by JSN
yeah I ment to say BMW Motorsport GmbH was set up in 72, then changed to simply BMW M in 92

He admitted he just wrote the wrong thing, it was an accident. Get off your soapbox. Damn.

[JSN]

Reading a whole thread takes time, but then so does writing up a big long flaming rant. So i'm confused...

[FateMaker]

I saw a Ford Focus the other day with an SVT badge and an R badge too! I didn't want to mess with that monster! Its exhaust pipe had holes all over it! That car just screamed "don't mess with me!"

[Hyperion]

BMW put M badges on certian non-M cars from the factory standard.

[rp99e39]

That I just glanced thru them and didn't even notice your reply and that damn reply I did took nearly 30 minutes well next time I will read first then rebute and sorry JNS didn't see your corrected reply newbie mistakes what can you say. and I will never mention M badge's any more, it's like poking a hornets nest with a stick.

[JSN]

It's alright man. Hell I thought Germany was just a socialist wasteland, I didn't know about their business infrastructure.

And yes, the M badge is a touchy topic. Stay clear of that and "which tuner is better?" and you'll be fine ;)

[bimmer1]

wait till someone races you and yoiu get killed

[rp99e39]

Originally posted by bimmer1
wait till someone races you and yoiu get killed

??? I'm lost who said anything about racing on this thread? We where discussing M badging non M cars. (check your grammer I before u but not in you (yoiu) haha j/p don't get mad I have already pissed 90% of the other members right off the bat) I may have set the record for views and reply's from a New Member initial first thread post, I would like to know if someone has that info to date I think 70 replys 1700+ views on this thread

Sorry Guy's I am really one of the nicest people in the world didn't know what I was getting into but I won't go there again

[Mark85]

i still say M badges look tacky even on an M car, take them off for that clean look...im confused why you would want to put somthing on your car that would take the clean look away

for most the M Badge stays on there car so they feel good knowing they drive an M car and spent the extra money, but even if i drove an M3 the badges would definetely be gone and the M will be shown as you blow past the honda who though it was only a 325 or 318

[clumpymold]

Originally posted by Mark85
i still say M badges look tacky even on an M car, take them off for that clean look...im confused why you would want to put somthing on your car that would take the clean look away

for most the M Badge stays on there car so they feel good knowing they drive an M car and spent the extra money, but even if i drove an M3 the badges would definetely be gone and the M will be shown as you blow past the honda who though it was only a 325 or 318

Yup, my thoughts exactly. ;)

[JSN]

Originally posted by Mark85
for most the M Badge stays on there car so they feel good knowing they drive an M car and spent the extra money, but even if i drove an M3 the badges would definetely be gone and the M will be shown as you blow past the honda who though it was only a 325 or 318

only a 3er owner would say that

*ziiiiiiip*

[surfacewound]

check your grammer

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[clumpymold]

Originally posted by JSN
only a 3er owner would say that

*ziiiiiiip*

I don't get it. :dunno

[Madd96///M3]

Originally posted by ///M3an Machine
just as gay as a crx with Type R badges, or v6 stangs with cobra badges.

nothing is as gay as v6 mustangs, that still gets to me, but at least they arent fwd

[E36M3]

geez, now i know who stole my ///M badge.

debadging is the real deal now.

[denverlicious]

do you want to know what this whole topic is about. it's not about real M's, it's not about who has a faster car. IT'S ABOUT WHO HAS A BIGGER D***. when you compare the M3 and a normal 3 series. there is just no comparison. and when a 3 series driver tries to make their car like an M, it's like saying i have a small d*** and im trying to be something im not. people take pride in the cars that they buy and when someone tries to steal the glory they have in their car it hurts them in a deeper level then most people think. it's kinda like saying christina aguilera gave me head, when in actuality it's some blonde mexican girl named christina. they may look the same, the blonde may give better head, but it's just not christina.

[denverlicious]

sorry about the spam. my comp was acting gay and i didnt know if it went through...REALLY REALLY SORRY!!!!

[ponq]

Can you delete them?

That is pretty annoying.