Ground up rebuild!

[M3equalslife]

So I recently begain a turbo swap on my Stage 2 TT setup was just going to do a simple turbo swap from the T60-1 to the percision 6262 ported .82 a/r and then tune it accordingly...... But as I begain uninstalling, things were found to be horribly put together! Here r a few pics for you guys
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/561983_10150710388079661_502429660_9097842_2012347 14_n.jpg
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http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/535295_10150709195814661_732937209_n.jpgSo the morale of the story is, I have to rebuild a down pipe. Or find one online for a good price. As well as I am going to replace the manifold with a t4 steedspeed, send back the turbo for a t4 with a v-band since the t60-1 had a siezed bolt when I took it apart! Ill keep you guys posted! But there are going to be alot of upgrades happening!

[uk525td]

nice...
pretty sure the wastegate shouldnt be perpendicular to exhaust flow.....

[pbonsalb]

That is not stainless steel. How long did the aluminized last? Probably longer in CA than it would if you drove in winter in areas where roads are salted.

[NickG]

Wow, whomever you had install your kit/downpipe didn't do a very clean job. They failed to use mandrel bent pipes after the initial bends (the part included with the turbo kit), along with non-optimal welding. Unfortunately it seems as if header wrap was used on the downpipe too. That is never a good idea unless the pipe is made of stainless steel. Non-SS exhaust pipes tend to rust when wrapped (the wrap traps the moisture inside).

[MikeE36]

nice...
pretty sure the wastegate shouldnt be perpendicular to exhaust flow.....

Why?

-Mike

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

nice...
pretty sure the wastegate shouldnt be perpendicular to exhaust flow.....

I'm sure its not optimal but it works with back pressure, so it can flow.

[Z3speed4me]

The turbo looks pretty, everything else not so much....as Nick noted some poor decisions were previously made on the welding and pipe choice. Cant wait to see her back together properly

Although I would not call this a full rebuild as implied.

[uk525td]

Why?

-Mike
Ws under the impression that the wastegate exit should be at a shallower angle as it enters the main exhaust system, presumably to reduce (the likelyhood) turbulance at that point

[M3equalslife]

That is not stainless steel. How long did the aluminized last? Probably longer in CA than it would if you drove in winter in areas where roads are salted.

Well the car was origianlly a UTAH car till i broguht to CA about a yr and a half ago!

So started cleaning up the engine bay and took out the S54 radiator with the euro oil cooler. As well as the fan clutch and shroud. Then my gizmo buddy started organizing my wiring and found this cluster F*** http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/559074_10150720202829661_502429660_9132648_1758188 303_n.jpg
Original owner had this setup for his ccv i believe, he played around with a few ideas on how to perfect it. Cant be to mad though made out with some good wiring and racetronics.
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Wow, whomever you had install your kit/downpipe didn't do a very clean job. They failed to use mandrel bent pipes after the initial bends (the part included with the turbo kit), along with non-optimal welding. Unfortunately it seems as if header wrap was used on the downpipe too. That is never a good idea unless the pipe is made of stainless steel. Non-SS exhaust pipes tend to rust when wrapped (the wrap traps the moisture inside).


LOL non-optimal welds! Is a good way of putting it! Ya there was alot of mistakes made that I am having to fix....Ya they did use heat wrap on it, thought I needed a tetnus shot afterwards! NickG I sent you an email the other day.


The turbo looks pretty, everything else not so much....as Nick noted some poor decisions were previously made on the welding and pipe choice. Cant wait to see her back together properly

Although I would not call this a full rebuild as implied.

Well the rebuild is just beging bra! Just starting out little by little! I saw mikee36's build thread the other day and decided it was time to make my car right and not keep procrasting!


Ws under the impression that the wastegate exit should be at a shallower angle as it enters the main exhaust system, presumably to reduce (the likelyhood) turbulance at that point


Can you post up a pic of an ideal down pipe then? Thanks bra!

[uk525td]

http://i223.photobucket.com/albums/dd315/DTRGuy/IMG_1540_1.jpg
that sort of arangement, nice merge of the dump pipe into the downpipe, i beleieve as far down the pipe as possible is preferred.
Jsut my understanding, and best pic i could google

[cmzwirner]

I know of multiple people who run the WG dump pipe perpendicularly into the downpipe with zero issues. I will be doing the same. Sure, it isnt ideal. But it works.

[MikeE36]

Ws under the impression that the wastegate exit should be at a shallower angle as it enters the main exhaust system, presumably to reduce (the likelyhood) turbulance at that point

This allows for great boost control though. It will not make MAX power this way, but make kit makers do this (TRM, TT).

Nothing really wrong with it for a street car. Works great.

-Mike

[M3equalslife]

This allows for great boost control though. It will not make MAX power this way, but make kit makers do this (TRM, TT).

Nothing really wrong with it for a street car. Works great.

-Mike

Ya it does work great for street cars. But what would be ideal for a bottom mount turbo?

UK525 thats a sweet setup but its a top mount setup. I need ideas for my bottom mount. I have been lurking in the shadows trying to learn more about twinscroll as well but.... thats a little to far/extreme id like to keep it DD and ocasional weekend track warrior.

[MikeE36]

Ya it does work great for street cars. But what would be ideal for a bottom mount turbo?

A lower merge angle, say 30* instead. 90* that more smoothly rejoins the downpipe flow. The problem can be though of making this too efficient and having too little back pressure in the exhaust, causing boost creep. With a sufficiently large wastgate and piping for the setup, the lower merge angle is ideal.

None of this really matters though for 99% of the cars on this forum. You can make 600+whp with a 38mm gate and a 90* merge.

-Mike

[M3equalslife]

A lower merge angle, say 30* instead. 90* that more smoothly rejoins the downpipe flow. The problem can be though of making this too efficient and having too little back pressure in the exhaust, causing boost creep. With a sufficiently large wastgate and piping for the setup, the lower merge angle is ideal.

None of this really matters though for 99% of the cars on this forum. You can make 600+whp with a 38mm gate and a 90* merge.

-Mike


So the thought of the ideal "downpipe" setup would be a 3" or 4" with a 30* wastegate with a tial 44. How could you prevent boost creep with that setup?

[M3equalslife]

Change of plans.... I want to go twin scoll t4 now.... I am still learning and researching but from the pics by Ar design u have to run dual waste gate? And would u have to pull the head to install the manifold? I did some turnermotorsport 180* wrapped headers on my old n/a car and it was suicide to do it on the car! What exactly would u need to make the twin scroll setup complete, manifold, down pipe, ts turbo, dual waste gate?

[M3equalslife]

So, the parts r in the mail. But while waiting for all that. I figured to clean up all of the wiring. Had alot of butt connecters that work. But build up resistance rather than solder and have minimal resistance.
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NO COMMENT....
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a bit of solder and a bit of shrink tube later, cut here cut there and walaaa!
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After rewiring and cleaning up alot of excess wiring, finally a clean wiring setup!
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And yesterday I pulled the oil filter housing so I can swap out the thermostat inside of it with a diverter valve. So I can get 100% oil cooling. But instead of reinstalling right away I am going to take it in to my part washer and get it washed real quick to get off old grime and what not. Not to mention get a new gasket before install.
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Some one mentioned this idea in another thread. Good idea too since all of the bolts are different!
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Thats all for now!

[M///BMW]

Who made that downpipe?

[M3equalslife]

Who made that downpipe?

The nasty 4 piece one was done by original owner. But I have a ar design down pipe and manifold coming in the mail.

[Captain]

Have you purchased a divided/twin scroll turbo?

if not please please please look into the gtx35r! With that manifold and turbo you may have one of the quickest spooling 35r e36's out there...thats one way to be different from the rest nowadays.

Those two pieces seem like a lot of win and even more so working together...

[M3equalslife]

Have you purchased a divided/twin scroll turbo?

if not please please please look into the gtx35r! With that manifold and turbo you may have one of the quickest spooling 35r e36's out there...thats one way to be different from the rest nowadays.

Those two pieces seem like a lot of win and even more so working together...

Thanks brother, but I already got the ball rolling and got my Precision 6262 twin scroll. Just gotta send it to ar design for them to mock up my manifold for me. The gtx35r was my original choice but the GTX is garrets answer to Precision.

[whiteghost7]

With proper wastegate placement, you can easily control boost creep with a single 38mm WG. It has been done on larger displacement, more powerful engines. Think about using exhaust cutout geometry and gentle bends for max flow. Make sure that the internal diameter of your piping is consistent with the WG's inlet and outlet, smooth flow is helpful. It's all fluid dynamics at work.

I have successfully used exhaust wrap with aluminized bends (from Jegs) for extended periods without oxidation, the key is to make sure any moisture that gets on the wrap has evaporated before the vehicle is turned off in the garage. Or park it and prop the hood.

[M3equalslife]

With proper wastegate placement, you can easily control boost creep with a single 38mm WG. It has been done on larger displacement, more powerful engines. Think about using exhaust cutout geometry and gentle bends for max flow. Make sure that the internal diameter of your piping is consistent with the WG's inlet and outlet, smooth flow is helpful. It's all fluid dynamics at work.

I have successfully used exhaust wrap with aluminized bends (from Jegs) for extended periods without oxidation, the key is to make sure any moisture that gets on the wrap has evaporated before the vehicle is turned off in the garage. Or park it and prop the hood.

Thanks for the input!

[M3equalslife]

Decided to investigate a large crack visable thru the oil fill cap. Possible reason for excess oil puking out of the breather! http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/381798_10150436664509661_502429660_8223895_3028418 30_n.jpg
After a trip to BMW and an amputation of my left nut. I had the new part!
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[M3equalslife]

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Zionsville Fatboy radiator came in today! HELLLLLA SICK!!!!
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[1SLWM3]

You will LOVE that radiator.

[M3equalslife]

I was thinking the same thing!

[M3equalslife]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/550742_10150981070839661_1447262995_n.jpg

Game time!

[BobRoss]

Very interesting. in for results!
I wonder how that wastegate placement will work out. 2 44mm?

[Nomade30]

This car happen to be the same car?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343180

[SiGmA]

Looking forward to the rebuild! That downpipe is nifty! New hardware looks good. Keep up the pics!
This car happen to be the same car?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343180Sure looks like it, it has the ducting and such as well. I didn't know Jim sold his car! Looks like I missed that last fall.

[Nomade30]

I know it was on the local classifieds for a while, I was sad when I saw it listed as Sold, but looks like it's new owner loves it.

[pbonsalb]

I am looking forward to reading more about results from the twin scroll manifolds that are now appearing for these cars.

[chikinhed]

I can understand that shrink wrapped solder joints look cleaner than butt splices but solder can cause corrosion in the wire when in a corrosive environment such as in a car and it makes the joint stiff and prone to having the wire break with vibration. A much better choice by the previous owner, and you, would have been to use environmental butt splices that seal when heated after you crimp. I got this same info when I was an apprentice. Just an FYI.

[M3equalslife]

Very interesting. in for results!
I wonder how that wastegate placement will work out. 2 44mm?

Twin 38mm


This car happen to be the same car?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1343180

Yes it is the same one.


I know it was on the local classifieds for a while, I was sad when I saw it listed as Sold, but looks like it's new owner loves it.

Ya I love the car.... Will love it even more once it's up and running again!


I can understand that shrink wrapped solder joints look cleaner than butt splices but solder can cause corrosion in the wire when in a corrosive environment such as in a car and it makes the joint stiff and prone to having the wire break with vibration. A much better choice by the previous owner, and you, would have been to use environmental butt splices that seal when heated after you crimp. I got this same info when I was an apprentice. Just an FYI.

Weird.... Last I check every collision/factory repair or 3rd party shop thats ASE qualified and used by insurance companies require solder and shrink wrap repair of the wire. Because the resistance in the splice is minimal compared to a butt connector. Not to mention waterproofed with the shrink wrap to prevent corroision of the solder. Enviromental butt splices are nice but not considered a factory repair. I personally love those ones from 3m that as you crmp it fills the void wit silicone! Thanks for your advice though all input is welcomed.

P.s. This isn't a bash thread on the previous owner he did a lot of things right! And did the best he could with what he had.

[M3equalslife]

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/282256_10150986935819661_274120104_n.jpg

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I could be wrong but I don't think that crack is suppose to be there!

[chikinhed]

Twin 38mm

Yes it is the same one.

Ya I love the car.... Will love it even more once it's up and running again!

Weird.... Last I check every collision/factory repair or 3rd party shop thats ASE qualified and used by insurance companies require solder and shrink wrap repair of the wire. Because the resistance in the splice is minimal compared to a butt connector. Not to mention waterproofed with the shrink wrap to prevent corroision of the solder. Enviromental butt splices are nice but not considered a factory repair. I personally love those ones from 3m that as you crmp it fills the void wit silicone! Thanks for your advice though all input is welcomed.

P.s. This isn't a bash thread on the previous owner he did a lot of things right! And did the best he could with what he had.

It may depend on the manufacture. VW/Audi/Porsche do not recognize soldering as a quality repair and will deny claims if soldering was used. We use heat shrinking weather pack connectors. As well in the aviation industry they don't use solder due to reliability issues and corrosion. Just sayin'

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

It may depend on the manufacture. VW/Audi/Porsche do not recognize soldering as a quality repair and will deny claims if soldering was used. We use heat shrinking weather pack connectors. As well in the aviation industry they don't use solder due to reliability issues and corrosion. Just sayin'

Wow, I never knew that! I thought soldering was the way to go...

[chikinhed]

Wow, I never knew that! I thought soldering was the way to go...

It looks neat and tidy but over time you are asking for problems. Not to say that you wouldn't have problems with cheap exposed butt splices under the back of a pick up truck for the trailer wiring on a vehicle that is driven on salty roads in the winter. They have to the proper connectors for the job/environment and installed with the right tools.

Sorry OP for going side ways in your thread.

[M3equalslife]

It may depend on the manufacture. VW/Audi/Porsche do not recognize soldering as a quality repair and will deny claims if soldering was used. We use heat shrinking weather pack connectors. As well in the aviation industry they don't use solder due to reliability issues and corrosion. Just sayin'

Interesting, denying the claim if the owner or shop did the soldering? Those weather connectors sure save you some time! Had to reconnect a customers entire harness solder and shrink wrap because it had been cut by some jerk as revenge or something. They gave me 6hrs to do it, 20min job said and done. I made out on that job! I'll ask the adjuster about the weather pack connectors vs solder next time I see him. Good looking out!


It looks neat and tidy but over time you are asking for problems. Not to say that you wouldn't have problems with cheap exposed butt splices under the back of a pick up truck for the trailer wiring on a vehicle that is driven on salty roads in the winter. They have to the proper connectors for the job/environment and installed with the right tools.

Sorry OP for going side ways in your thread.

It's fine, the car is a California car now so salty roads are gone from it's future. Just a little salt water moisture once in a while when I am at the beach!

[M3equalslife]

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[cmzwirner]

Do you think you will be able to truly take advantage of this high end hardware with a stock internal engine? I have thought about going twin scroll, but figured sizing down the turbo for better low end response would be a better and cheaper option for those of us who arent after 600WHP.

[Zic]

@cmzwirner.

Ain't the twin scroll beneficial over a regular manifold, by physically separating the cylinders where exhaust flow can interfere with each other, and therefor will be better than a normal over any given psi you are gonna run?

Also, very nice thread. looking forward to see it complete.

[Butters Stoch]

@cmzwirner.

Ain't the twin scroll beneficial over a regular manifold, by physically separating the cylinders where exhaust flow can interfere with each other, and therefor will be better than a normal over any given psi you are gonna run?

Also, very nice thread. looking forward to see it complete.

Correct.
I think what he is saying is that its alot of cash . where there are manifolds out there for less than 1/2 the cost that are good up to 500+ hp/tq

[cmzwirner]

@cmzwirner.

Ain't the twin scroll beneficial over a regular manifold, by physically separating the cylinders where exhaust flow can interfere with each other, and therefor will be better than a normal over any given psi you are gonna run?

Also, very nice thread. looking forward to see it complete.

Yes they are. They can spool up larger turbos faster and improve transient response. But a GT30R with an SPA can probably spool in 3rd by 2800RPM and can easily make it to 450-500WHP/WTQ. I was told by CES that i should just skip the twin scroll unless i build the engine. Twin scroll manifolds are best for people who want a quick spool from a large turbo, and more breathability up top for more power.

Regardless, this build is looking great. You are going to be SO happy with the way that 6262 performs. I have mine on an SPA and it is perfect for a street car. The 6262's spool characteristics combined with the true twin scroll manifold is going to make you a very happy Turbo M3 owner.

[Zic]

Ah okey, now i catch your drift.
Tho it's always nice to have the greatest or close to it, and room for hp/tq improvement if he gonna build the motor in the future. without swapping the manifold out.

[600whp S4]

love the manifold looks great!

[milKt]

OP,

where'd you get that badashish manifold set-up.

Better than verra nass.

[///Dom]

I may have missed it, but who's doing the tuning? NickG?

[highboostingm3]

Wow! Nice hardware! That bish is gonna spool like no other! :eek:

Just toss some race fuel in there and booooooooost!

What tuning?

[M3equalslife]

Who ever said I had stock internals......:evil2
Do you think you will be able to truly take advantage of this high end hardware with a stock internal engine? I have thought about going twin scroll, but figured sizing down the turbo for better low end response would be a better and cheaper option for those of us who arent after 600WHP.

Ha........ Me to!


Also, very nice thread. looking forward to see it complete.

Can't wait, she has been down for to long!
Yes they are. They can spool up larger turbos faster and improve transient response. But a GT30R with an SPA can probably spool in 3rd by 2800RPM and can easily make it to 450-500WHP/WTQ. I was told by CES that i should just skip the twin scroll unless i build the engine. Twin scroll manifolds are best for people who want a quick spool from a large turbo, and more breathability up top for more power.

Regardless, this build is looking great. You are going to be SO happy with the way that 6262 performs. I have mine on an SPA and it is perfect for a street car. The 6262's spool characteristics combined with the true twin scroll manifold is going to make you a very happy Turbo M3 owner.

Manifold is brought to you by the good ole boys at Ar' design they are all great guys, by far best company I have delt with in a long time!
OP,

where'd you get that badashish manifold set-up.

Better than verra nass.

I would love for him to do the tunning. But he isn't going to be around my area any time soon. So I am still deciding between a couple local tuners.
I may have missed it, but who's doing the tuning? NickG?

It currently has nickg's stg2 tune on it from my old setup. Going to have to step up my game to a standalone soon.........
Wow! Nice hardware! That bish is gonna spool like no other! :eek:

Just toss some race fuel in there and booooooooost!

What tuning?

[cmzwirner]

Regarding the internals: You never said otherwise. ;)

Videos of that 3.2 twin scroll ripping through the streets needed ASAP. Hurry up!

[M3equalslife]

Hehehehe sneaky sneaky! But no it's got built low end and a few other things going to mod the head a bit more if I have to pull it again for a HG.

Regarding the internals: You never said otherwise. ;)

Videos of that 3.2 twin scroll ripping through the streets needed ASAP. Hurry up!

[highboostingm3]

...
It currently has nickg's stg2 tune on it from my old setup. Going to have to step up my game to a standalone soon.........
After 4 standalones and then going stock 413 DME TRM chip tune I'll never look back.

Up to you, just standalone can be a MAJOR headache unless you really love to geek out like 5mall5nail5 and just rip with that sort of thing. If that is you then more power to ya and I can't wait to see your success unfold. :buttrock

Remember...The MILLER Tuning has been looking fricking AWESOME and you are able to tweak and geek out on that a bit even though it isn't standalone. I'd have a chat with Brody if you haven't already. Wouldn't hurt. If anything it helps you gain knowledge. As you know AR has been using the Brodster's MILLER tuning on all their vehicles and you have the AR mani. Just sayin'. :naughty

[M3equalslife]

Thanks highboost, I'll take that into consideration!

[M3equalslife]

Getting all the little stuff together....
http://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/184159_10151162589144661_337192275_n.jpg

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Getting all the little stuff together....


Never seen these before.

[M3equalslife]

Never seen these before.

Best way to describe them:buttrock..... http://youtu.be/XlWi3cZokbA

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Nice! It's almost like a bargain/easy way to AN stuff.

I like the skins too. What was the price of the kit?

[M3equalslife]

I think they range anywhere from 37-90ish. Depending on how many fittings you get.

[MikeE36]

Copy cat :stickoutt


You're going to LOVE that setup dude.... should be really wicked, especially on a 3.2L over my 2.9L..

And hose candy, GL with it. My Subaru buddy had some issues with his coming unglued or something along those lines. Hopefully you have better luck :)

-Mike

[M3equalslife]

..... Copy cat me noo never! LOL I will give you the credit! PM SENT

Hose candy coming loose or falling off? hmhmhm well I will let you know how it goes. Hopefully they hold.

[M3equalslife]

Stuffed the wastegates in last night. Had to decharge the AC system tho so I can take the lines off, they were in the way of the rear wastegate dump pipe and the v band of the front wastegate. Going to try and either reattach them or mock up some new flex line versions. My only other issue right now is the front dump pipe nearest the bumper is resting on the rack and pinion boot...... just seems like a bad idea to me once I start running it around it would melt the boot. Pics speak louder then words!
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O and the coil pack wiring runs directly over the wastegate...... not sure about that. More research is needed.

[Tanks95]

Nice build.

[M3equalslife]

....Sorry been lagging with the shop, ski season, and the down pour of rain. Well enough excuses.
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Top pic is checking the drain angle with the -10an with flare flange and the 45 degree fitting only way I can get it clocked with these fittings.... I dont think I like the drain angle at all. Please chime in with your .02! Thanks guys! Regain my motivation today. Want to get it running by the end of the month!

[cragg56]

I thought this mani was AC compatible without modification????

[M3equalslife]

....I thought so to quite possibly is, but for me it was blocking my rear wastegate dump tube so I needed to remove it and modify my lines.

[JuCo]

Any updates?

[M3equalslife]

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Also welded on some tabs I made so I can securly mount the oil cooler.
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Any turbo guys in the Sacramento area wanna stop by and lend a hand I would appreciate it! Tremendously, and reward you handsomely with beer and BBQ!

[ziptied]

awesome freakin build!! i got a lot to learn

[M3equalslife]

awesome freakin build!! i got a lot to learn


thanks...... ya me too!:eyecrazy

[M3equalslife]

Finished welding up my charge pipe. All I have to do now is finish the wiring for the E-fan, wire my new maf wiring to a factory cannon plug some how, oil, filter, coolant... and we should be running by tomorrow!

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[BlackHawkRacing]

^ sick engine bay pic. Excited to see this up an running!

[5speed300]

Looks great, but my god servicing that thing is going to be a huge PITA. Turbo has to come out to get to the wastegates, downpipe out to get the turbo out...I guess that's how it goes with most top mounts though, just not a ton of free space.

[1SLWM3]

Way better than servicing a bottom mount setup, lemme tell ya.

Looks great OP. Cant tell from recent pictures, but make sure to remove the hood insulation prior to running the car. Replace, at least the hotside area, with some extra gold foil.

[M3equalslife]

Looks great, but my god servicing that thing is going to be a huge PITA. Turbo has to come out to get to the wastegates, downpipe out to get the turbo out...I guess that's how it goes with most top mounts though, just not a ton of free space.


Not that bad actually. the turbo can remain bolted on for all of that, just the downpipe would have to come off. Granted its not as easy as an N/A S52 but labor of love and hate.... maybe more hate late at night with bashed knuckles.


Way better than servicing a bottom mount setup, lemme tell ya.

Looks great OP. Cant tell from recent pictures, but make sure to remove the hood insulation prior to running the car. Replace, at least the hotside area, with some extra gold foil.


Good looking out brother, almost skipped my mind! Been hurrying to get it done by WED. For my move back to SOCAL!!! So it either runs tonight or it gets pushed on the trailer....


Just for piece of mind anyone have a check list I can run through to make sure I didn't miss anything.

Its alive!!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkX6-DQXQcU&feature=youtube_gdata_player



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ8s2UtO9l4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[M3equalslife]

Dyno DAY!!!!
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[BlackHawkRacing]

Dyno DAY!!!!
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How are you gonna post pictures of a dyno day without #'s that cruel.

[M3equalslife]

..... Muahahahahahha!

[M3equalslife]

The dyno didnt go as well as we wanted. Couldnt get it to hit above 13lbs. Boost leak tested and found the Air idle control motor had a massive leak under the manifold so going to jb weld a stepped nipple in there and get a better seal rather than rely on the wrong grommet to hold all that pressure! I dont have the numbers infront of me but I hit 382hp at 13lbs. Will try and find the dyno sheet for you guys and let you know how my fix works out.

[cragg56]

Car looks sick. What filter and part number for the filter is that?

[M3equalslife]

Car looks sick. What filter and part number for the filter is that?

Thanks bud, honestly its a pep boys special. I needed something temporary till I found something better. I was considerig the HKS filter unless anyone has any better ideas?????

Eventually I am going to cut out the high beam so I have "cold air" for the turbo.

[M3equalslife]

Went to put my manifold back on last night only to realize I had stripped the stud nearest the firewall uso.g a swivel socket. I think I had to muh torque at a bad angle... So got to take it back off and go to the hardware store and buy a new stud. It's always something.

[Tanks95]

very clean!

[jszy25]

It's always something.

It certainly is.

Loving the setup man.