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futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 12:27 AM
I accidentally deleted the majority of my post last night. Sorry...

Ran the 1/8th mile tonight.

Here are the specs:

Roadkill OBDI tune
S50 (130k, low compression in 2 cylinders)
.140 (currently pressurizing the cooling system)
4088r
Otis T4 manifold, 3" DP/ exhaust, Random Tech hi-flow cat, magnaflow resonator and dynomax VT muffler.
BAVSOL stage 3 head
Schrick cams
clutchnet red (325i slave)
small eBay intercooler
2.93 diff
Nitto DR's (I suck at life! Never got them hot enough)


1st run (14psi)
60ft: 2.21
ET: 8.13
MPH: 99.25

2nd run (15psi)
60ft: 2.35
ET: 8.81
MPH: 99.65

3rd run (17psi)
60ft: 2.30
ET: 8.17
MPH: 102.97

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/rneedham1979/IMG_0627.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/rneedham1979/IMG_0628.jpg

http://i776.photobucket.com/albums/yy50/rneedham1979/IMG_0626.jpg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIOUnOiuKdI

RK-Tunes
03-24-2012, 12:36 AM
Nice times on a hurt motor. I cant wait to see what you can do when the built motor goes in.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 12:45 AM
Me either! I'll be picking the engine up Friday. Not sure when I'll be able to install it though. I was thinking about flying you in to tune it when she's all together... Would that work?


Nice times on a hurt motor. I cant wait to see what you can do when the built motor goes in.

RK-Tunes
03-24-2012, 12:56 AM
Me either! I'll be picking the engine up Friday. Not sure when I'll be able to install it though. I was thinking about flying you in to tune it when she's all together... Would that work?

yes sir. Some thing can be arranged.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 01:01 AM
Cool, I'll let you know when I'm ready...


yes sir. Some thing can be arranged.

milKt
03-24-2012, 10:00 AM
Congrats man...
now let's work on some WHEELIE videos. :)

Phenomenal.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 10:31 AM
Yeah right... This was my first time out with the E30. The track wasn't the greatest and honestly... I botched the launch each time. I think it was nerves, on the street I can usually launch with no issue. Last night I failed!

I don't see why I can't get the 60ft down to 1.90's. That should help considerably on the top end. After forum stalking other timeslips... I think with a good launch low to mid 130's is possible the way she sits.

The last dyno was 450ish but had a vicious misfire. It's running much better now. I assume high 4's low 5's but I'll be confirming that tomorrow.

Car was driven to the track, run 3 times at daily driver weight. Still had speaker box, jack, spare tire and floor mats in the car...

I'm pretty siked overall!


Congrats man...
now let's work on some WHEELIE videos. :)

Phenomenal.

GG///M3
03-24-2012, 10:32 AM
Pretty impressive

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 11:03 AM
Thanks man. Not too bad for a two day thrash build and an old tired motor... LOL


Pretty impressive

black bnr32
03-24-2012, 03:10 PM
what's it like racing the 1/8th vs the 1/4?

BadBoostedBmwM3
03-24-2012, 04:08 PM
Nice runs OP. it's real good especially for pressurizing the coolant system.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 04:19 PM
It's the same but shorter... LOL It was my first time at the 8th, I prefer the 1/4 but with my current schedule, I'm not sure when or if I can make it before my next trip.


what's it like racing the 1/8th vs the 1/4?

Yeah, I'm surprised she's running as well as she is, especially in its current state.

I only have three passes in the E30. With 5-10 more runs, I'm confident I can lower my 60ft and ET significantly. I think it has another 2-3 mph in her the way she sits (17psi).

If I get down to the 8th again, I'll turn it up to 19-20psi just to see what she traps.

Overall I'm pretty happy with how everything worked out.


Nice runs OP. it's real good especially for pressurizing the coolant system.

Butters Stoch
03-24-2012, 04:39 PM
It's the same but shorter... LOL It was my first time at the 8th, I prefer the 1/4 but with my current schedule, I'm not sure when or if I can make it before my next trip.

Yeah, I'm surprised she's running as well as she is, especially in its current state.

I only have three passes in the E30. With 5-10 more runs, I'm confident I can lower my 60ft and ET significantly. I think it has another 2-3 mph in her the way she sits (17psi).

If I get down to the 8th again, I'll turn it up to 19-20psi just to see what she traps.

Overall I'm pretty happy with how everything worked out.



Awesome run .. with a lower 60 you et will plummet.
Shit part is the harder you chase the sub 2.0 60ft time the more things you break.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 05:01 PM
For sure. I really don't need that head ache right now. I'm kind of after the trap speed anyway.

I may try and go again Friday. If I do, I'll trailer it down and push it a little more. I probably should have dropped tire pressure as well.

My tach is 5-700 rpm off. So when it says 7k in the car, its not. So I was short shifting it a bit. I'm going to order a shift light right now!



Awesome run .. with a lower 60 you et will plummet.
Shit part is the harder you chase the sub 2.0 60ft time the more things you break.

Butters Stoch
03-24-2012, 05:08 PM
Im with you on the trap speed. This year im taking it easy out the hole. Last year I broke a cv and chattered a clutch. That was with my s/c setup. This year with a 35r should be much more fun.

BadBoostedBmwM3
03-24-2012, 06:05 PM
How much power are you making? With the trap speeds, you have to be over 500whp.

Also why do you call the motor "tired"?

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 06:23 PM
Last dyno was 450ish but had a misfire. I'm supposed to dyno tomorrow, I'll post the numbers/ sheet if it works out. I'm not sure if it's over 500whp though.

I said it's tired, because it is. The engine has severe blow-by. It has 130k on it and 50k of that is boosted. 2 cylinders have low compression and the head gasket is shot. Oil pours out of the filler cap even with a working CCV set up. Before I hooked up the CCV to the exhaust, I had it venting to atmosphere and the car had a horrible misfire and super low vacuum. The CCV raised the vacuum and has improved the cars drivability although there are still problems.

This is why I have the 87mm S52 at the machine shop...




How much power are you making? With the trap speeds, you have to be over 500whp.

Also why do you call the motor "tired"?

maurim3
03-24-2012, 07:49 PM
nice runs.. What tires are you using?

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 07:53 PM
Nitto DR's. 245/45/17's. Not sure what pressure and I never got them hot enough. Next time I will get them sticky!

The tall tire +2.93 gear isn't helping anything... I'm thinking about going with a 3.25 or 16" wheels and tires.


nice runs.. What tires are you using?

GG///M3
03-24-2012, 07:54 PM
Nitto DR's. 245/45/17's. Not sure what pressure and I never got them hot enough. Next time I will get them sticky!

The tall tire +2.93 gear isn't helping anything... I'm thinking about going with a 3.25 or 16" wheels and tires.

Correct

maurim3
03-24-2012, 08:09 PM
Im running with 255 50 16 MT drag radials with a 3.73 diff.. and I think its a good combination. I got a few good launches out of them. But not good for the eight. I finish at around 5k on third.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 08:19 PM
This is my daily so I'm not trying to change the set up in order to rip up the 1.8 or 1/4. Ultimately, I'd like to trap 135-140 in the 1/4 with my daily... LOL

badluckM3
03-24-2012, 08:22 PM
Whoever that was in #178 with that turbo m3 sucked at life too!! :devillook

My first time ever at a drag strip, only had two runs, and did horrible...but was a lot of fun.

Your hurt motor performed just fine. Gonna be a beast with the built 87mm motor.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q123/benbimmer/1ea987a4.jpg

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 08:29 PM
Few more trips and you'll be over 100 too! Friday is the perfect opportunity. LOL


Whoever that was in #178 with that turbo m3 sucked at life too!! :devillook

My first time ever at a drag strip, only had two runs, and did horrible...but was a lot of fun.

Your hurt motor performed just fine. Gonna be a beast with the built 87mm motor.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q123/benbimmer/1ea987a4.jpg

good & tight
03-24-2012, 08:39 PM
That's a good trap speed for the 1/8. I run 2.93 also and the only way to get sub 2.0ft was 6k launches.

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 08:55 PM
6k launches... LOL

Honestly, the E30 is harder to launch than my M5 was. I pulled 1.9's on street tires although I think the track prep was better. I plan on working on the launch Friday.

Otis- So you hold 6k and then modulate the clutch or??? What tires did you run, slicks or DR's?


That's a good trap speed for the 1/8. I run 2.93 also and the only way to get sub 2.0ft was 6k launches.

good & tight
03-24-2012, 09:42 PM
6k launches... LOL

Honestly, the E30 is harder to launch than my M5 was. I pulled 1.9's on street tires although I think the track prep was better. I plan on working on the launch Friday.

Otis- So you hold 6k and then modulate the clutch or??? What tires did you run, slicks or DR's?
Slicks, held at 6k and drop the clutch.:eyecrazy

futureroadracer
03-24-2012, 09:46 PM
Yeah, if I did that with my tires it's just sit and spin.


Slicks, held at 6k and drop the clutch.:eyecrazy

e30polak
03-25-2012, 12:49 AM
Did you ever take your car with the blower on the track? Interested to see how the set-ups compare!:devillook

Nice work either way! That car must be a handful to drive! :buttrock

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 01:09 AM
Never ran it SC'd. Honestly, they don't compare at all. The turbo is so much faster. The car isn't really hard to drive either, I actually drive it everyday... That said, a good launch remained elusive, although I only made 3 passes.

Heading to the local pick n pull tomorrow. Trying to acquire spare axles, drivetrain components and hopefully 2, 4x100 wheels I can throw some slicks on.




Did you ever take your car with the blower on the track? Interested to see how the set-ups compare!:devillook

Nice work either way! That car must be a handful to drive! :buttrock

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 01:10 AM
Never ran it SC'd. Honestly, they don't compare at all. The turbo is so much faster. The car isn't really hard to drive either, I actually drive it everyday... That said, a good launch remained elusive, although I only made 3 passes.

Heading to the local pick n pull tomorrow. Trying to acquire spare axles, drivetrain components and hopefully 2, 4x100 wheels I can throw some slicks on.




Did you ever take your car with the blower on the track? Interested to see how the set-ups compare!:devillook

Nice work either way! That car must be a handful to drive! :buttrock

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 01:10 AM
Never ran it SC'd. Honestly, they don't compare at all. The turbo is so much faster. The car isn't really hard to drive either, I actually drive it everyday... That said, a good launch remained elusive, although I only made 3 passes.

Heading to the local pick n pull tomorrow. Trying to acquire spare axles, drivetrain components and hopefully 2, 4x100 wheels I can throw some slicks on.




Did you ever take your car with the blower on the track? Interested to see how the set-ups compare!:devillook

Nice work either way! That car must be a handful to drive! :buttrock

GG///M3
03-25-2012, 08:16 AM
Whoever that was in #178 with that turbo m3 sucked at life too!! :devillook

My first time ever at a drag strip, only had two runs, and did horrible...but was a lot of fun.

Your hurt motor performed just fine. Gonna be a beast with the built 87mm motor.

http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q123/benbimmer/1ea987a4.jpg

Not bad 97 in the 1/8 should be an 11 second pass. :)

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 09:13 AM
Ben has more on the table. I'm certain he can run over 100 too. But yes, an 11 second pass for sure!


Not bad 97 in the 1/8 should be an 11 second pass. :)

rt turbo
03-25-2012, 12:33 PM
Once you get better at launching, you should be DEEP into the 7's with that MPH. Seriouslyl, that mph should be good for low 7's as is.

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 02:47 PM
Are you talking about Ben's run or mine? Ben ran 97mph and I ran 102.97. Ben should be low 7's and I should be running high 6's if we can get the cars out of the hole better.


Once you get better at launching, you should be DEEP into the 7's with that MPH. Seriouslyl, that mph should be good for low 7's as is.

rt turbo
03-25-2012, 07:46 PM
Are you talking about Ben's run or mine? Ben ran 97mph and I ran 102.97. Ben should be low 7's and I should be running high 6's if we can get the cars out of the hole better.
Yes indeed. 100+ in the 1/8 is capable of a 6. Cant wait till you get used to the launch and have some stick with the tires!

Bad luck, what happened between those 2 runs? One nearly 10 mph lower.

futureroadracer
03-25-2012, 10:00 PM
I think Ben upped the boost a little. If I remember correctly, the first run was 14 and the 97mph run was 18.


Yes indeed. 100+ in the 1/8 is capable of a 6. Cant wait till you get used to the launch and have some stick with the tires!

Bad luck, what happened between those 2 runs? One nearly 10 mph lower.

badluckM3
03-26-2012, 08:47 AM
Yes indeed. 100+ in the 1/8 is capable of a 6. Cant wait till you get used to the launch and have some stick with the tires!

Bad luck, what happened between those 2 runs? One nearly 10 mph lower.


I think Ben upped the boost a little. If I remember correctly, the first run was 14 and the 97mph run was 18.

Same boost on each - 18psi...first run was just that, first time at a drag strip, and drove it like a granny. Missed all my shifts, and had an awful launch.

Second one, same awful launch, but got my shifts a little better.

futureroadracer
03-26-2012, 09:34 AM
I stand corrected.

Amazing how much of a difference clean shifts make. You'll break into the 100's next time out. I'm still going Friday, let me know if you change your mind.

I'm bringing the trailer this time... so I will have no excuse for shitty launches. LOL

futureroadracer
03-29-2012, 09:37 AM
Weighed the car this morning. Weighed 3080 with me (241lbs) 7/8th full of fuel, spare tire and speaker box/ amp (50lbs?)

Tomorrow I'm pulling the box, spare tire and will have less than 1/4 tank of fuel. So, in track form, she should be under 3000lbs.

GG///M3
03-29-2012, 09:47 AM
Nice when is the next time you are rolling out?

futureroadracer
03-29-2012, 09:54 AM
Tomorrow.


Nice when is the next time you are rolling out?

futureroadracer
03-30-2012, 08:57 AM
Hopefully this shift light helps me get down the track a little quicker tonight. I'm trying to pickup a 2-3mph in the 1/8th. Going to up the boost until it misfires or blows up... Big thanks to Jon, he gave me the tach signal pin number, which allowed me to tap for the rpm signal. FYI- on my 95' DME it's pin # 47.

GG///M3
03-30-2012, 09:07 AM
Very kool. Are you sticking with the same diff?

futureroadracer
03-30-2012, 09:13 AM
For now, yes. E30 diffs are pretty cheap and pletiful. If I can find a 3.15 or 3.25, I'll prob pick it up and give it a try. For now, the 2.93 is working well.

I did reinforce the center support bearing with windo-weld, which has drastically increased stability and I plan on running the tires are 18psi. I should be able to get her out of the hole a bit harder tonight...


Very kool. Are you sticking with the same diff?

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 01:08 AM
Tonight was a great night, ended up running much faster than I though I was going too. First time up, I snapped an axle. I was like "awesome!" Luckily, I brought two extras and replaced it (very difficult) in about 1.5-2hrs. Then, I ran 5-6 times trying to optimize my launch, shifting and 60ft times.

I ended up trying to raise the boost too much and the engine was flat, just wasn't responding well and def wasn't coming on as strong as it has. My first pass was 103 trap, followed by a 102. I turned the boost up from 17-22 and car had issues. Trapped 99 and felt horrible. Tried that twice and really didn't feel well so I backed it down to 20psi.

At 20psi, the car rips... I had to get some serious heat in the tires or they'd spin the entire 8th mile. I was able to get them good and warm on the last two passes. Since it took most the night to get the car together I ended up hot lapping at the end, running 5-6runs back to back... literally.

I am having a hard time being consistent with my shifts and launch although the launch is getting better. The last two runs were my best of the night...

60ft- 2.30
ET- 8.30
MPH- 103.40

Last pass:
60ft-2.044
ET- 7.61
MPH-106.48

Same boost for both runs, which was 20.1psi. :redspot Remember, this is my daily driver i.e street car. I drive it to and from work daily. It has full interior, has a stereo, all the seats, sound deadening etc. I'm not sure how much power she's making but I assume it's over 525whp.

All that said, the night ended up going great even after an embarrassing axle failure, although I think the 130k mile stock bottom end S50 has finally seen her last run... after the final pass she started smoking a little bit on decel. Car still runs smooth and pulls like a freight train... I drove it in to the trailer... just a little "smoke" LOL.

Here are some pics...

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 01:33 AM
And videos...

8.30 @103.40
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lu-3G969yow&feature=context&context=C49de5acADvjVQa1PpcFO086ZU22GUJgKMHYGzmqr0 J58PL1VxvqI=

7.61@106.48
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKI6mbhSOAY&context=C49de5acADvjVQa1PpcFO086ZU22GUJgKMHYGzmqr0 J58PL1VxvqI=

I apologize for the video quality and commentary, my 18yo brother was filming...

RK-Tunes
03-31-2012, 01:40 AM
Nice passes!

bubela
03-31-2012, 06:39 AM
That's awesome. Some serious trap speed there. Any chance you'll get to the 1/4 some day? What a fun daily driver!

Z3speed4me
03-31-2012, 09:55 AM
106 is moving!

I'd love to see this thing in the 1/4

GG///M3
03-31-2012, 01:04 PM
106 is moving!

I'd love to see this thing in the 1/4

Yes it would be impressive. Those gt4088's get the car moving.

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 01:08 PM
Yeah man, I'll absolutely hit the 1/4 mile. I would've went to the 1/4 but VMP wasn't running a test & tune Friday. If I'm in town and there is a 1/4 test & tune, I'll be there.

I'm confident we'd pick up at least 30mph in the 1/4. She pulls really, really hard in 3rd and 4th.





That's awesome. Some serious trap speed there. Any chance you'll get to the 1/4 some day? What a fun daily driver!

milKt
03-31-2012, 01:13 PM
...the GT4088r is chock full of WIN.

It's PACKED with pure pauer
and it's not a rod bender.

It's a peripheral blender.

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 01:14 PM
It really does. The turbo comes on hard and feels like it'll just keep making power.

Honestly, my set up shouldn't be running like this... I honestly attribute the MPH and overall power to two things.

gt4088r Turbo
Roadkill OBDI tune




Yes it would be impressive. Those gt4088's get the car moving.

GG///M3
03-31-2012, 01:19 PM
It really does. The turbo comes on hard and feels like it'll just keep making power.

Honestly, my set up shouldn't be running like this... I honestly attribute the MPH and overall power to two things.

gt4088r Turbo
Roadkill OBDI tune

Power pack combo ='s rapes

Knight F Mohawk
03-31-2012, 01:19 PM
Impressive MPH for the ET ;)

-Will

e30kid89
03-31-2012, 01:43 PM
awesome trap speeds for the 1/8! I hope to pop my 1/4mi cherry this season, i just hope I don't get addicted!! :confused

What fuel are you using at the 20psi level? pump?

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 01:46 PM
Yeah, the 60ft was 2.0. If I get it down to a 1.6-1.7 she'll go 6's.

Remember, I'm running nitto drag radials. Nice set of slicks would make all the difference.



Impressive MPH for the ET ;)

-Will

Not sure the exact fuel octane... had just under 1/4 of 93 and added 3 gallons of 100.


awesome trap speeds for the 1/8! I hope to pop my 1/4mi cherry this season, i just hope I don't get addicted!! :confused

What fuel are you using at the 20psi level? pump?

Z3speed4me
03-31-2012, 03:51 PM
Which manifold do you have?

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 04:36 PM
Otis' t4 tubular manifold

GG///M3
03-31-2012, 05:14 PM
Which manifold do you have?

Open face manifold correct, and not dual face?

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 05:16 PM
huh?

milKt
03-31-2012, 05:17 PM
like a Roast beef sandwich?

Z3speed4me
03-31-2012, 05:18 PM
I think I am going to try something that many think will be a bad idea, and stupid, and inefficient, and won't be worth it... but rather I feel it will result in a very interesing outcome.

We will see soon enough. :devillook


huh?

He means is it divided or not divided...

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 05:31 PM
It's not divided. There are mani pics in this thread.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1522715

Remember, this engine has been hurting for a while. Low compression and a leaky headgasket. It's only pulling to redline because of the PVC system.

I'm really surprised she was running as well as she was. That said, I think with the fresh S52 and a custom tune (in person)... we'll see 75-100whp gains over the old, tire S50. If we can pick up at least 100whp, we should see a pretty substantial MPH increase once we bolt slicks on.

Z3speed4me
03-31-2012, 06:04 PM
I am sure the Bavarian Solutions Stage 3 head helps a bit here with the power....

futureroadracer
03-31-2012, 06:13 PM
Absolutely! And im sure 4 out of 6 were making phenomenal power. Just not what is should be with 20psi on a GT40. The motor is done. It's smoking pretty good now, still runs and drives fine though. Just gotta find some time to install the new engine.



I am sure the Bavarian Solutions Stage 3 head helps a bit here with the power....

RK-Tunes
03-31-2012, 10:38 PM
Gt4088r on a 3.0 should do. 600whp at 20 psi easy.

BadBoostedBmwM3
04-01-2012, 02:59 PM
Gt4088r on a 3.0 should do. 600whp at 20 psi easy.

Yep it should!





With the 106mph pass, you should be deep into the 130s in the quarter.

futureroadracer
04-01-2012, 07:18 PM
Yeah man, I think mid to high 130's. The new motor should make a bunch more power, especially when I have Jordan (Roadkill) do a 93, 100 and E85 tune, in person, on my buddy's dyno.

I'm looking at picking up some strip wheels too. I think 140mph in the 1/4 is my goal. I really think that will be sick!



Yep it should!





With the 106mph pass, you should be deep into the 130s in the quarter.

Z3speed4me
04-01-2012, 08:43 PM
This car is making me really think about turbo choice.... I love my 35, I am thinkin of doin a 6466, but the 40 is now on my mind too..... dammmmmit!

futureroadracer
04-01-2012, 09:06 PM
I honestly don't know much about turbos, compressor maps or much about anything else. When I was looking at turbos, quite a few guys recommended the 40r framed turbo, so I looked for one.

I ended up buying mine for 1100 shipped in the for sale section and haven't really looked back. I see many guys talking about lag and stuff but... the power delivery feels perfect. The car just continues to pull and as I've mentioned in the other thread... it really doesn't spool much slower than the 35r. I do plan on installing the bat-mo-wheel once the engine and turbo is out of the car, I think that will be a perfect fit in my application.






This car is making me really think about turbo choice.... I love my 35, I am thinkin of doin a 6466, but the 40 is now on my mind too..... dammmmmit!

milKt
04-01-2012, 09:18 PM
Yup,
the GT40r

It's simple,
handsome
and the Official "Rod Friendly" turbo.

rf900rkw
04-01-2012, 09:41 PM
Would your dyno buddy be over around 24th or 25th street?

futureroadracer
04-01-2012, 09:52 PM
Nope. My buddy's own Dyno Tuned Performance off Holland Rd in VB.

Why?


Would your dyno buddy be over around 24th or 25th street?

GG///M3
04-01-2012, 10:04 PM
Get to a 1/4 mile

futureroadracer
04-01-2012, 10:13 PM
I'm trying... LOL

Might try and hit VMP Friday night.


Get to a 1/4 mile

GG///M3
04-01-2012, 10:15 PM
I'm trying... LOL

Might try and hit VMP Friday night.

Get it done. I would love to see how the car performs with a motor thats not hurt.

futureroadracer
04-01-2012, 10:20 PM
That won't be for a few months. I'm leaving town on the 9th for 2 months. If I hit the 1/4 Friday, it'll be with a hurt motor... Sorry!


Get it done. I would love to see how the car performs with a motor thats not hurt.

GG///M3
04-01-2012, 10:21 PM
That won't be for a few months. I'm leaving town on the 9th for 2 months. If I hit the 1/4 Friday, it'll be with a hurt motor... Sorry!

Lucky you. My motor is done and I can't get issued solved in months. Hi 5

BadBoostedBmwM3
04-01-2012, 11:42 PM
I honestly don't know much about turbos, compressor maps or much about anything else. When I was looking at turbos, quite a few guys recommended the 40r framed turbo, so I looked for one.

I ended up buying mine for 1100 shipped in the for sale section and haven't really looked back. I see many guys talking about lag and stuff but... the power delivery feels perfect. The car just continues to pull and as I've mentioned in the other thread... it really doesn't spool much slower than the 35r. I do plan on installing the bat-mo-wheel once the engine and turbo is out of the car, I think that will be a perfect fit in my application.



The batmowheel will only help spooling characteristics.
What size compressor wheel does the gt4088r use?

Knight F Mohawk
04-01-2012, 11:44 PM
Not sure the exact fuel octane... had just under 1/4 of 93 and added 3 gallons of 100.

lol, ET means elapsed time, but I did screw up....I meant that the ET was impressive, especially considering your trap speed.

-Will

GG///M3
04-01-2012, 11:57 PM
The batmowheel will only help spooling characteristics.
What size compressor wheel does the gt4088r use?

Explain properly with graphs, and traps with the same type of motor. :)

BadBoostedBmwM3
04-02-2012, 12:33 AM
Explain properly with graphs, and traps with the same type of motor. :)

Not possible because as far as I know no one in our community uses the batmowheel.

But...

I was just talking to Kirk at "theboostlab" last week while he was rebuilding my turbo. Anyways, we got on the topic about Bullseye batmowheels.

http://www.theboostlab.com/products/bullseye-power-batmowheel.html

He claims that it spools better.

rf900rkw
04-02-2012, 09:05 AM
Nope. My buddy's own Dyno Tuned Performance off Holland Rd in VB.

Why?

Sometimes when we're down at the restaurants along 21st, the peaceful night atmosphere is broken by the wail of a dyno pull from somewhere across the tracks. It's been going on for a few years, and I haven't figured out who it is, yet.

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 09:10 AM
Yeah, I know what ET is. My response to you was "above" your quote... you read my post "below" your quote.


lol, ET means elapsed time, but I did screw up....I meant that the ET was impressive, especially considering your trap speed.

-Will

Hmm not sure man. Never herd of any shops around there. Maybe a race team?


Sometimes when we're down at the restaurants along 21st, the peaceful night atmosphere is broken by the wail of a dyno pull from somewhere across the tracks. It's been going on for a few years, and I haven't figured out who it is, yet.

I know it'll spool a little quicker but it should increase power too. Even on the boostlabs website they have back to back comparisons that show significant power increase when using the batmowheel.


The batmowheel will only help spooling characteristics.
What size compressor wheel does the gt4088r use?

BadBoostedBmwM3
04-02-2012, 11:10 AM
I know it'll spool a little quicker but it should increase power too. Even on the boostlabs website they have back to back comparisons that show significant power increase when using the batmowheel.

Yep, did you see my post following the one you quoted?

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 01:37 PM
So I beat the car most of the day Saturday and today, the car is not smoking at all. It's running strong too! Any ideas?

black bnr32
04-02-2012, 02:05 PM
Magic

Fender13Bender
04-02-2012, 02:34 PM
So is there still extra coolant pressure? How's the coolant look?

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 03:18 PM
Magic

Seems like it.


So is there still extra coolant pressure? How's the coolant look?

For sure. The oil is fine and the coolant appears to have a very small trace of oil or carbon. She burned up about a qt of coolant at the track the other night.

Z3speed4me
04-02-2012, 03:21 PM
Sounds like what I am encountering... except my exhaust is smokin, yours isnt :(
Soon to be resolved.

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 03:26 PM
Sounds like what I am encountering... except my exhaust is smokin, yours isnt :(
Soon to be resolved.

My exhaust was chugging blue smoke after the last past and most of ther day saturday. It has now stopped.

I have never had any coolant smoke, burning smell etc.

-Ryan

milKt
04-02-2012, 03:38 PM
yOU'RE out of oil? :stickoutt

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 05:12 PM
That'd be funny. Just checked and she' full.

rf900rkw
04-02-2012, 05:30 PM
They always run their best just before they piddle pieces-parts.


The drag racer of the shop says you'll likely get one pass at Petersburg... once they see the time they'll have a fit about not having cage (don't see one in the vids).

yash
04-02-2012, 05:39 PM
They always run their best just before they piddle pieces-parts.

The drag racer of the shop says you'll likely get one pass at Petersburg... once they see the time they'll have a fit about not having cage (don't see one in the vids).

Pm'd you off topic

Pardon my grammar and lack of smileys Sent from my iPhone using BF.com

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 07:12 PM
They always run their best just before they piddle pieces-parts.

The drag racer of the shop says you'll likely get one pass at Petersburg... once they see the time they'll have a fit about not having cage (don't see one in the vids).

I assume I'll get one clean pass before I'm forced to put her on the trailer. Most turbo BMW's are picking 30-33MPH on the back half. If I can get a clean pass, I should see 133-137MPH trap speed in the 1/4.

good & tight
04-02-2012, 07:17 PM
I assume I'll get one clean pass before I'm forced to put her on the trailer. Most turbo BMW's are picking 30-33MPH on the back half. If I can get a clean pass, I should see 133-137MPH trap speed in the 1/4.
One good full on 6k launch bonzai pass, grab your slip then right onto the trailer.

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 07:34 PM
The best et/trap so far was around 3500 and let the clutch out slow to not break anything.

I'll leave the 6k launches to you maniacs!


One good full on 6k launch bonzai pass, grab your slip then right onto the trailer.

rf900rkw
04-02-2012, 08:18 PM
I assume I'll get one clean pass before I'm forced to put her on the trailer. Most turbo BMW's are picking 30-33MPH on the back half. If I can get a clean pass, I should see 133-137MPH trap speed in the 1/4.


That's what he said. One good pass and then you'll get talked to. He did say that he doesn't go to the Friday night tests, so they may not be quite as strict.

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 08:32 PM
In my experience... I'd only get 1 or 2 passes on a Friday night at VMP anyways.


That's what he said. One good pass and then you'll get talked to. He did say that he doesn't go to the Friday night tests, so they may not be quite as strict.

turbo325ii
04-02-2012, 09:49 PM
The best et/trap so far was around 3500 and let the clutch out slow to not break anything.

I'll leave the 6k launches to you maniacs!

Are you racing or are you drivin like a granny? Come on! If u ain't broke something you ain't goin hard enough! :buttrock 6k launches! Or anti lag....

And for reference I picked up 32mph on the back end.

milKt
04-02-2012, 10:07 PM
Whatever you're doing to get 106 is phenomenal man...
don't change a thing

...and if you engine is no longer acting up,
sheesh, you got it going good. :)

GT40r love FIXED your engine problems.

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 10:51 PM
Are you racing or are you drivin like a granny? Come on! If u ain't broke something you ain't goin hard enough! :buttrock 6k launches! Or anti lag....

And for reference I picked up 32mph on the back end.

I'm driving like a granny. LOL. Picking up 32mph would be spectacular! That'd be 135-138, which is F-ing crazy!

turbo325ii
04-02-2012, 11:00 PM
I'm driving like a granny. LOL. Picking up 32mph would be spectacular! That'd be 135-138, which is F-ing crazy!

Sea level is treating you right!!!

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 11:03 PM
Whatever you're doing to get 106 is phenomenal man...
don't change a thing

...and if you engine is no longer acting up,
sheesh, you got it going good. :)

GT40r love FIXED your engine problems.

It's tougher than many think. I have the launch the car carefully so it doesn't break yet hard enough to get her down the track. As reflected in the 60ft, I'm still taking it pretty easy. I think I'll get sub 2.0's the next time out, which should really help the ET.

The trap seems to be dependent on how quickly I shift to second. If I spin in first, shift 2nd sooner, it lets me top out (rev limiter) 3rd in the 8th. Honestly, in the 1/4, my trap should improve. In the 8th, im forced to hold 3rd through the traps since shifting would hurt et and slow the mph. In the 1/4 I'll flat shift 4th and run through the traps as fast as possibly can.

turbo325ii
04-02-2012, 11:06 PM
In the 1/4 I'll flat shift 4th and run through the traps as fast as possibly can.

you will looove holding 4th all the way through. Sorry, what's your rear end ratio?

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 11:14 PM
2.93 + 17" tires. ZF tranny

turbo325ii
04-02-2012, 11:21 PM
2.93 + 17" tires. ZF tranny

Swap to a 3:25lsd you may see improvements. What's your tire o.d.?

futureroadracer
04-02-2012, 11:27 PM
With slicks, the 3.25 would def be a winning combo. The tire diameter is 25.71" according to Jegs.





Swap to a 3:25lsd you may see improvements. What's your tire o.d.?

turbo325ii
04-02-2012, 11:40 PM
With slicks, the 3.25 would def be a winning combo. The tire diameter is 25.71" according to Jegs.

Sweet, that's a good dia. With 2.93s. I may try my 3.25back to back with my 2.79. For comparison.

futureroadracer
04-03-2012, 09:23 AM
I'm not sure how the 3.25 would work. I know I'd def have to shift into 4th in the 8th and 5th in 1/4, which may not be beneficial.


Sweet, that's a good dia. With 2.93s. I may try my 3.25back to back with my 2.79. For comparison.

futureroadracer
04-07-2012, 12:42 AM
Went 11.58 @ 136.94. 2.27 60ft.

More info to follow.

turbo325ii
04-07-2012, 12:49 AM
Went 11.58 @ 136.94. 2.27 60ft.

More info to follow.

Nice trap!!!! Stop driving like a granny and tear off some low 10's. :buttrock

RK-Tunes
04-07-2012, 12:52 AM
Engine with low compression in two cyl's still pulling a 11.5 with a 2.27 60 foot.

VERY nice. i cant wait to see what you do with the new motor.

futureroadracer
04-07-2012, 02:06 AM
Nice trap!!!! Stop driving like a granny and tear off some low 10's. :buttrock

I will if she stops breaking axles. Not too bad for a .140 cometic and an old S50. LOL



Engine with low compression in two cyl's still pulling a 11.5 with a 2.27 60 foot.

VERY nice. i cant wait to see what you do with the new motor.

For sure. Don't forget the headgasket issues. In 4th I was getting coolant spray on the windshield...


Vids, slip and info here:
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1817581

This was with the small, cheap eBay intercooler. 2.5 in and out...

BadBoostedBmwM3
04-07-2012, 10:17 PM
I would have had to let off with spraying coolant.

Anyways, bravo! I knew it would be deep into the 130s.

futureroadracer
04-07-2012, 11:20 PM
Yeah man, I'm pretty siked. Looking forward to getting the new engine in and back out there.


I would have had to let off with spraying coolant.

Anyways, bravo! I knew it would be deep into the 130s.

turbo325ii
04-07-2012, 11:31 PM
Hahahah coolant spray on windshield @ warp speed. Been there done that lol. It adds a different meaning to "feeling" the road when you get coolant on the windshield @150mph haha wipers WILL NOT HELP.

Future you kill me. Your kickin ass and takin names on a busted old s50! Makin me look bad layin down trap speeds like that! I guess I have some real work to do in Vegas!

futureroadracer
04-07-2012, 11:53 PM
Future you kill me. Your kickin ass and takin names on a busted old s50! Makin me look bad layin down trap speeds like that! I guess I have some real work to do in Vegas!

She's running well. The combo just seems to work. Honestly, nothing is really optimal, the exhaust is too small for the turbo, car has a cat, the engine is hurting internally; I'm running small intercooler like you and it all seems to work well. Even the fuel system is simplistic... I'm only running 60's and the intank areomotive 340l pump. Everything else is stock, stock fuel lines, s50 FPR and fuel rail.

I think it's all owed to the guys that helped me out, and the awesome parts they sold me. Otis built the manifold and downpipe, Dave @ Bavarian Solutions sent me a BEAST of a cylinder head and Roadkill's tune is, well, killing it! If not for these guys and their talents, my car would have never broke into the 130's, especially not in its current form.

That said, I'm not sure if everyone understands just how fast 136.97 in a 1/4 mile is... to reach that trap speed with equipment less than 100% is downright impressive and it's all owed to the aforementioned THREE!

I still need to get better. I'm inconsistent with my launches and shifts. I'm really fumbling through my shifts. I mean, look at the video. I went from 2nd to 1st. Ugh, fail! I also suck at timing my shifts, even though I have a super bright red light telling me exactly when to shift, I fail. I guess I'm used to shifting based on the engine sound but on the track, it's loud and I end up short shifting. I'm sure a competent racer could easily propel my car to a low 10 at 137+.

RK-Tunes
04-08-2012, 12:02 AM
Hahahah coolant spray on windshield @ warp speed. Been there done that lol. It adds a different meaning to "feeling" the road when you get coolant on the windshield @150mph haha wipers WILL NOT HELP.

Future you kill me. Your kickin ass and takin names on a busted old s50! Makin me look bad layin down trap speeds like that! I guess I have some real work to do in Vegas!

Rk-tunes baby.
Get with it or get lost.


For real brett your car will still be fast don't worry

turbo325ii
04-08-2012, 12:11 AM
KEEP it simple stupid. I have lived by that since day 1. Lots of people over think it.


Rk-tunes baby.
Get with it or get lost.


For real brett your car will still be fast don't worry

Love u jordy!

GG///M3
04-08-2012, 12:16 AM
Rk-tunes baby.
Get with it or get lost.


For real brett your car will still be fast don't worry

Fast n spraying.

turbo325ii
04-08-2012, 12:41 AM
Fast n spraying.

Ooo that's a good idea, maybe time to throw some nOs on there!!!

Boots
04-08-2012, 05:16 AM
You know I got some nawz we could throw on

Sara849
04-08-2012, 06:17 AM
Cool http://www.**********.info/7.jpg

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 04:56 PM
I don't think its needed but... if you decide on installation nitrous, install a dedicated fuel system.


Ooo that's a good idea, maybe time to throw some nOs on there!!!

milKt
04-08-2012, 06:13 PM
He was talking about the coolant spraying. :)

It's sad the engine had to go so soon after it was "ready".

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 06:29 PM
Oh


He was talking about the coolant spraying. :)

It's sad the engine had to go so soon after it was "ready".

GG///M3
04-08-2012, 07:36 PM
Oh

Either way you are preforming properly. Once the new motor is in place everything will be well. Btw did you build the new motor going in or someone else?:)

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 08:11 PM
Funny you should ask...

I intended on assembling the engine. I dropped everything off, block, crank, rods and pistons. I asked them to confirm the eagles, o-ring the block and bore/hone to the pistons. When I called last week, they had assembled the bottom end. Oh well.

Now, I have to order the rest of the gaskets, chains, tensioner, guides etc. I need to weld the -12 nipple on the S54 oil pan and then assemble.

Just found out that the O-rings on my cylinder head should work with my larger 87mm bore. So, I'll be running stainless O-rings in the block and the copper O-rings in the head. I haven't measured anything yet but... I'm hoping the head rings will fall just inside the block o-rings.





Either way you are preforming properly. Once the new motor is in place everything will be well. Btw did you build the new motor going in or someone else?:)

GG///M3
04-08-2012, 08:48 PM
Lot of o-rings.

badluckM3
04-08-2012, 09:14 PM
Just found out that the O-rings on my cylinder head should work with my larger 87mm bore. So, I'll be running stainless O-rings in the block and the copper O-rings in the head. I haven't measured anything yet but... I'm hoping the head rings will fall just inside the block o-rings.

The more I think about it, there's no way there is room for orings in the head and block with 87mm bore. The orings in your head look to be the exact places the orings would go for a figure-8. A conventional oring job(one complete ring per cylinder), I could see the rings in head/block fitting in one another, but not with an 87mm figure8.

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 09:28 PM
Not sure what to do then. Maybe the grooves are close enough to use the groove in the head as a receiver groove? Guess we'll know for sure once she's all apart.




The more I think about it, there's no way there is room for orings in the head and block with 87mm bore. The orings in your head look to be the exact places the orings would go for a figure-8. A conventional oring job(one complete ring per cylinder), I could see the rings in head/block fitting in one another, but not with an 87mm figure8.

GG///M3
04-08-2012, 10:03 PM
Not sure what to do then. Maybe the grooves are close enough to use the groove in the head as a receiver groove? Guess we'll know for sure once she's all apart.

Who told you this can be done?

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 10:08 PM
What can be done? Receiver grooves?

GG///M3
04-08-2012, 10:12 PM
What can be done? Receiver grooves?

Well the head is pretty much useless unless its sold it would seem since the block has been o-ringed. Unless you swap it on to the current s50 you are running.

futureroadracer
04-08-2012, 10:20 PM
Huh, why? I'll have to wait until I have everything apart and take some measurements. I don't see the issue with running O-rings on the block and head as long as the o-ring is making contact with the gasket. Or just run O-rings on one surface while using the other other as a receiver groove. Again, I'll have to see what it looks like when its all apart.




Well the head is pretty much useless unless its sold it would seem since the block has been o-ringed. Unless you swap it on to the current s50 you are running.

Heading to the dyno in an hour...