FS: Brand New Custom E36 M3 Roll Bar

[Widebody325]

For sale I have build custom fabricated 4 point roll bars for e30, e36 and e46 platforms. They are made out of 1.75x.095 DOM tubing and has 3/16" Mounting plates along with grade 8 hardware. I designed it so you can still run a rear seat, rear side panels and stock sunroof and headliner. I build these with custom harness bars as well as any other options you would like. As for me I have about 15 years of metal fabricating and welding experience and to date have sold well over 100 of these bars. This roll bar is top notch and I have not seen any other ones that are designed like mine. Please contact me at ben.sipson@gmail.com. If you send me your number I can call you as well if you have any more questions. I am located in Seminole, FL. I ship these for $150 to anywhere in the continental United States via Greyhound Package Express for $150 The bar fits any E36 CoupeSedan. Also make these for E46 Coupes and working on a E30 bar as well.
PRICE: $550 without rear x brace, $650 with rear X brace

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[m3saloon]

If anyone is interested I can go check out them for you :) infact I may want one lol

[savage217]

That looks like it is all one piece. How much does it weigh?

[Widebody325]

That looks like it is all one piece. How much does it weigh?

Just put it on the scale and it weighs in at 75lbs exactly! And yes its one piece.

[mikemxbike4]

Those welds look clean man. Good work

[DakarDario]

i wishhh i didnt daily drive my car

[Widebody325]

i wishhh i didnt daily drive my car
You can daily drive with a roll bar. You just can't put people in the back seat.

[E36Shikara]

BUMP for a great guy.. spoke to Ben on the phone last night and he knows his product and competition and he has a great product and is willing to work with people on future roll bars.. I'm contemplating doing a rollbar from him!

[mateo m3]

How you get that in the car? Very well made.

[jayjaya29]

Nice piece! Looks beefy.

[Widebody325]

How you get that in the car? Very well made.

You have to take out the rear seats, and side panels, front seats and the arm rest and ebrake. Its really not bad taking that stuff out. Then it fits right into place. Having a friend there would help. I put it in my car about ten times by myself.

And to clarify this meets all SCCA spces for roll cage tubing and design. It is 1.75 Outside Dimensions x .120 Wall Thickness DOM tubing. The rear mounting plates are contoured to fit the rear wheel arches and the floor plates are bent to match the contours of the floor.

[Widebody325]

Here are a couple pics of the plates. Sorry if the quality of the pics sucks. I took em real quick with my phone.

[Snakery]

Hey guy, a bunch of you have emailed me & asked me what i thought about Ben's Roll bar design & i figured I'd list my unbiased impression here. (I don't know Ben & i am basing this impression off of his description & photos)

I go to the track a lot & I recently purchased a new TC Kline Bar that weighs in at 54lbs. In comparison to Ben's bar, the TC Kline bar is 20lbs lighter but it does not have the rear X brace that Ben's has.

Ben's design seems to be more rigid & should have more protection in a roll over or side impact. I think he has taken his design influence from more of a roll cage style.

The TC Kline Bar shipped from Denver to New England cost roughly $175 on top of the $595 purchase price, so Ben's bar is far more affordable.

The TC Kline bar & VSR1 bar both have a bend behind the drivers seat to accommodate a further back seating position. I'm 6'5 and this is good for a stock seat, but with a race seat, Ben's strait cross bar should leave plenty of room.

Ben's contoured Foot styles look correct.

The welds look clean in the Photo & his chose of metal thickness is the going requirement.

In closing, if I had not already bought the TC Kline Bar, I think Ben is offering a solid bar locally for a good price and i think i would have bought one.

Ben, you should think of a name for your company / Bar & put your name on your design. You might get a following and it will allow people down the road to research your equipment.

Also, perhaps offer a second lighter option for guys who are really weight conscious. 20lbs is a lot to some of us. (Especially when you gained 10lbs over the holiday)

Good Luck.

[99MPower]

just an FYI, a bolt in roll bar is not going to meet any racing series rules. The tubing diameter would not matter in this regard.

If you wanted to build an E36 to meet the most classes, the majority of the cage design would be in 1.75 x .095. .120 wall is for smaller diameter tubing, in lighter cars.

GREAT design, and the contoured feet are a HUGE plus over some other designs, and I really like the fact that it is all one piece, with a X in the back to help reinforce the back downtubes.

Good luck, and in the future, if u can go to a 1.75 x .095 wall you would be better off, and lighter.

NASA time trials dont require a rollbar/cage, thus dont have any rule expectations for such, and can use any bar you want.

If you were to go to W2W, you wouldnt have a bolt in rollbar anyways, so this wouldnt even be part of the discussion in rules compliance.

[purduinaM3]

Emailed you to arrange pick up, hopefully we can work something out.

[99MPower]

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t69/spg383/Cage4.jpg

In this picture, it appears you have another bend in the bottom of the main hoop. Is that correct? Or is the main hoop only bent on "one plane"?

like this...

http://media.dtmpower.net/gallery/photos/75/dscn1055.jpg

[Widebody325]

Yes there are slight bends right about where the harness bar crosses. And I can absolutely make these out of 1.75 x.095 DOM if rules allow. It will save weight for sure. I just went with what TC Kline and Autopower used for their bars which is .120 DOM. I can also eliminate the rear X which will save weight. Also if anyone feels like they need bent harness bars for seat clearance I can do that as well.

[Widebody325]

Also I thought I would throw this in here. This is my 1969 Toyota FJ40 I am workin on. Just finished up tacking the cage together today. Might make some slight adjustments to it. I think I got a little out of hand with bending tube on this one :D

[99MPower]

Yes there are slight bends right about where the harness bar crosses. And I can absolutely make these out of 1.75 x.095 DOM if rules allow. It will save weight for sure. I just went with what TC Kline and Autopower used for their bars which is .120 DOM. I can also eliminate the rear X which will save weight. Also if anyone feels like they need bent harness bars for seat clearance I can do that as well.


the bend in the main hoop is a huge no no for cage building. Can u make these exactly like your design in .095 and the main hoop only bent in one plane?

THAT would be the setup to make multiples of...

[Widebody325]

Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here. There are 4 total bends on the main hoop. 2 up top and 2 where the harness bar is located. Looks just like the pic of the bar you posted.

[99MPower]

http://www.bmwccaclubracing.com/static/ForTheRacer/BMW_CR_Rules-2012-v17.5.pdf

page 84

3. Main Hoop
A. The main roll cage hoop shall be as wide as the full width of the interior and must be as close to the roof as possible without violating the provisions of “Inspection” outlined below. One continuous length of roll bar tubing shall be used as the main hoop. The main hoop must consist of not more than four bends maximum, totaling 180 degrees +/- 10 degrees and in the same plane.

tubing specs

pg 87

3. 2501 to 3000 pounds
a. 1.500” x 0.120” DOM/Chromoly/Seamless
b. 1.750” x 0.095” DOM/Chromoly/Seamless


NASA rules are fairly close to these specs as well. With your rollbar being a fully welded single piece, it would be easy for someone to weld this into their car if ur plates meet the specs, and then all they have to do is add the front half of the cage.

That makes your option VERY enticing to future buyers


Maybe we are not talking about the same thing here. There are 4 total bends on the main hoop. 2 up top and 2 where the harness bar is located. Looks just like the pic of the bar you posted.

the 2 bends in the main hoop at the harness bar are on the same plane as the rest of the bar, or do those bends pull the main hoop bar forward/backward in the car?

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[Widebody325]

Ok I see what your are saying. Its all on the same plane, no worries. Here is a pic that shows it better.

[99MPower]

Ok I see what your are saying. Its all on the same plane, no worries. Here is a pic that shows it better.

PERFECT!!!

nice looking bar/setup :alright

picture fixed for you

http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff273/eagle483/Cageside.jpg

[Widebody325]

Ok guys so I have done some math and and have figured out weights for you.
1.75 x .120 DOM = Approx 75lbs
1.75 x .095 DOM = Approx 55lbs

Now some people have contacted me about removing the rear x brace and going with the two down instead. Here is a picture of what I would do if that were the case. So just imagine the X removed and the blue line a small support brace. This would weigh in around 48lbs if it was .095 and about 61lbs with .120
http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r594/BDSip/RollBarwithoutX.jpg

[savage217]

I am buying the revised 1.75 x .095 bar without the X bar in place. Basically how his new picture is, is what I will be getting. Instead of the Xbrace there will be a horizontal tube between the main hoop and both tubes connecting to the rear wheel well. I like this design for my application as it is lighter and still very strong.

[SSRI]

Any future for sedans?

[Steve547i]

Would be interested in an e34 one.

[99MPower]

I am buying the revised 1.75 x .095 bar without the X bar in place. Basically how his new picture is, is what I will be getting. Instead of the Xbrace there will be a horizontal tube between the main hoop and both tubes connecting to the rear wheel well. I like this design for my application as it is lighter and still very strong.


as long as the 2nd downtube bar starts at the harness bar node (strength, you want them all at nodes), and then terminates on the plate with the second downtube bar.

You do not want to just put a support bar in the middle somewhere.

my build thread http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1621405

For example, my rear section of my cage in my car

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[fatboycowen]

On your cage, you also have a door bar backing up that brace bar. On the roll bar, there will be no door bar. So, i don't think it's too critical where the brace goes.

[m3saloon]

Any future for sedans?
+1 for custom sedan. but from my extensive question asking all the "off the shelf" roll bars they fit both..

[Widebody325]

Ill do a sedan. I just need someone to donate their car.

[BadBlkE36]

Very nice cage. Will be contacting you soon to order one for my car....

[Widebody325]

Just finished one today for a board member, but I made it out of 0.95. Finished weight is 58lbs

[uconnr]

Just finished one today for a board member, but I made it out of 0.95. Finished weight is 58lbs

wow thats fast! I emailed you today asking how quick one could be made out of 0.95. I guess the answer is... FAST!

Definitely be picking one of these up.

[99MPower]

On your cage, you also have a door bar backing up that brace bar. On the roll bar, there will be no door bar. So, i don't think it's too critical where the brace goes.

absolutely INCORRECT...

you want those bars terminating at a node. The concepts are all the same for a roll bar or a roll cage

[purduinaM3]

Just finished one today for a board member, but I made it out of 0.95. Finished weight is 58lbs

Mine! Can't wait to pick it up!

Ben is VERY knowledgeable and honest and has an extremely fast turn around time. If you're considering a 4 pt bar, definitely get one from him.

[adstock]

absolutely INCORRECT...

you want those bars terminating at a node. The concepts are all the same for a roll bar or a roll cage

I know nothing about cage/bar design but I'm assuming that nodes are important in cages to avoid shear. For the roll bar, there's no opposing force (like the door bar of your cage that Jon already mentioned) and therefore should not shear under normal circumstances. If you hit a wall with the side of the car hitting straight on and created an axial force through the harness bar, it should create practically no opposing forces in the direction of the brace bar since it's at ~90* angle and would not shear. Now, if you hit the wall side first at an angle, I feel that having it welded at the node would be more beneficial since it wouldn't twist and buckle in between where the harness bar and brace bar connect. This would have to be a pretty severe crash to actually do such damage to the bar and most likely fatal, but for argument sake.. I'm no expert but I just wanted to voice my opinion and see what the experts have to say.

I do really like how the brace bar is underneath the window line if attached at the node.

[fatboycowen]

I'm not suggesting that connecting at the node isn't better. That's pretty obvious. I'm just saying that:

Brace shown > No brace
Brace at node > Brace shown

The sheet metal at the wheel well is so thin that i doubt either of the braces in a simple roll bar are going to help. I can see it being useful in a cage though.

One aspect no one has discussed is the ability to put wheels/tires into the back seat with the bar installed. In my car, with my bar, with no brace, i am able to stack the tires. I think with the lower brace, that would be more difficult.

[savage217]

I am going to have him make this controversial brace, crash my car and test whether or not it is an important structual piece:devillook

I agree with Jon, it is clearly better than no brace at all but is obviously not the most ideal method, which would be welded to the node. Good enough IMO.

[HyperMikeD]

Ill do a sedan. I just need someone to donate their car.

Or a 318ti hatchback...same chassis.

I wish I would've found this thread sooner...I just bought a BIRB and would've preferred doing business with you.

[Widebody325]

Here is another one I made today for a board member. I like how it came out. Its .095 DOM. Final weight 50lbs even.

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r594/BDSip/DSCF4217.jpg
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[savage217]

Looks sweet can't wait to put it in!:redspot

[mikemxbike4]

Looks sweet can't wait to put it in!:redspot

Thats what she said!:alright

[Widebody325]

So someone needs to buy my 1.75 x .120 DOM bar that I first built. Price is $440 if you can come get it this weekend. Its taking up space in my garage. Call me if interested 860-324-7935

[mikemxbike4]

I might as well get a roll bar for my car since I never have people in the back seat

[Widebody325]

I might as well get a roll bar for my car since I never have people in the back seat

I think you should :D

[m3saloon]

I pm' ed you bout the sedan

[Widebody325]

UPDATED PRICE- I will be charging $475 for a 1.75 x .095 DOM bar like the one I have posted in the first post. Without paint will be $460. If anyone wants anything different we can absolutely work something out and price it accordingly. Also I wanted to mention I am including plates that go on the underside of the car that sandwich the stock metal. I am not including hardware at this time, however if someone wants me to supply that I can pick it up and would just pass the cost of it along to you. Thank you all for the support, this is fun!

[HyperMikeD]

Ben...I thought Id post some info that might be helpful to you.

First...Ive attached a page that has the dimensions of the coupe and sedan.

Second...If you don't already know large items like these rollbars can be shipped nationwide via Greyhound Package Express(bus) for around $100.

Thirdly...Powder coating these bolt in roll bars runs about $250.00 but if you're doing multiples they may be able to get that price down.

Cheers !
MikeD.

[Widebody325]

All caught up with orders. I have all week off and can have yours done and able to be picked up by the weekend!

[savage217]

Im going to post pictures of mine shortly. I plan on painting my interior tonight and will take pictures after. It looks awesome.

[fatboycowen]

I got a look at Savage's bar. Looks very nice. The fit up seems just as good as the TCKline one i bought, except maybe not quite as tight to the roof. My bar was a massive pain to install as it was so tight fitting.

[Widebody325]

I got a look at Savage's bar. Looks very nice. The fit up seems just as good as the TCKline one i bought, except maybe not quite as tight to the roof. My bar was a massive pain to install as it was so tight fitting.

I designed it to clear the stock headliner. So if you are not running a headliner there will be a little more room. Thanks for the kind words! I can't wait to see it.

[fatboycowen]

I designed it to clear the stock headliner. So if you are not running a headliner there will be a little more room. Thanks for the kind words! I can't wait to see it.

Yea, i would have preferred a looser fitting bar, since i run a headliner. My headliner now has rub marks from installing the bar, and they will never go away.

It's about time someone did a good bar for a reasonable price.

[rbrainerd]

I was going to order a pre-made tonight and found this thread. Would you consider shipping (to Rochester, NY), if I can arrange it? you can e-mail directly to rich(at)studio-2b.com

[savage217]

Pictures of my new interior.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage024-2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage026-2.jpg
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http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage028-1.jpg

Looks awesome in my opinion. Thanks again Ben!

[m3saloon]

DAM ben! you seem to be making a killer item here.. I'm actualy very upest that your in my back yard and i have not got one/ had you make one for me yet. my car is on stands currently and loks like it will be for a while. but MAN i want one of your bars!

[Widebody325]

Nick that looks awesome! Thanks for posting up those pictures.

[mikemxbike4]

Pictures of my new interior.

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage024-2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage026-2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage027-2.jpg
http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage028-1.jpg

Looks awesome in my opinion. Thanks again Ben!

So tempting...

[raydoc]

The bar is not very close to either the side walls or the roof. You really want it as tight to these as possible. Another thing to look as is the foot plates. Do they contour to the floor or are they flat and pulled in by the bolts.

[Widebody325]

The bar was designed to fit with stock side panels and stock headliner. There is about a half inch on each side and about a half inch to the top with a stock headliner. If someone wants it taller than I can make it taller, and yes plates are contoured.

[savage217]

Plates are contoured very well, I would say as good as the TCKline version. It is not as tight to the top of the headliner, that is definitely true, but I doubt that really matters much in the grand scheme of things. The side fitment seems to be similar to most rollbars. I am happy with the fitment overall.

[NY98M3]

Are all the bars the same price? Also, how are these guys picking these up?

Id be interested in this one...

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage024-2.jpg

[Widebody325]

Are all the bars the same price? Also, how are these guys picking these up?

Id be interested in this one...

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/savage217/engineswapandcarnage024-2.jpg

$475 for the .095 with the rear X.
$460 for the 0.95 without the rear X.
I can also do a custom job if you want.

I just shipped out a bar yesterday via greyhound. It cost $86 to Rochester, NY. So that is going to be the cheapest way to get them if you want it shipped. If not you can come pick it up with a truck or just take out your interior parts that need to come out and we can just put it in your car. I would also like to add that I have also made some slight modifications to snug the bar up to the headliner a little more to ensure a nice tight fitment.

Some people were requesting pictures of bare joints as well so here are a few I took the other day.

http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/BareJoint2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/BareJoint3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/BareJoint4.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/BareJoint5.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/BareJoint6.jpg

[Msilvia]

Nice work! I may be getting one from you in the next month or so.

[Widebody325]

Hey everyone. I just wanted to let you all know I have made a few of these now and have really honed in the design. Here are a few pictures of what I have come up with. Notice the rear bars and the X brace terminate on the same node, as well at the diagonal bar that goes to the drivers head has been moved up. Also the X brace tubes and diagonal tube contact and are welded directly to the mounting plates. I thank everyone for their support and input. This bar now could be used in a full cage application at any point if you decided to go that route. Thanks again and keep the orders coming!
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign1.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign4.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign5.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a145/Avus325/NewDesign6.jpg

[M-technik-3]

Not Spec E36 legal correct because it's a bolt in?

[Downtown LA E36]

Instead of bolting, can you just weld it in?

[Widebody325]

Instead of bolting, can you just weld it in?

Absolutely! I can make it without holes for that exact purpose. Or you could just plug weld the holes which would work too.

[Widebody325]

Alright guys, just wanted to check in and give everyone a heads up. Things are going great and I have made about 8 bars in the past 4 weeks. The design is now super solid and I feel very confident with the product. I have been thinking of a name for my little business here and I think Bayside Fabrications is what I am going to run with. I think it has a nice ring to it and it will be much easier to identify with rather than "that guy on the forums who makes roll bars." Just wanted to run it by my local guys and see what you think as far as the name is concerned. Oh, and I have a E46 M3 coming in next weekend to play with. Another bar will be coming soon!

[m3saloon]

nice!
my car may be rolling sooner than later *(hopefully)* once i'm on wheels again i'll be bringing her by for the custom sedan install

[ayton]

will this fit a ti?

[SCapelo]

I want one of these in my car! Lime green cage should work well :buttrock We will be in touch once I get some money saved up again.

[jrighter]

Purchased on of these a few weeks back. Bar arrived in roughly a weeks time, was very well packed and the whole ordeal was pretty painless. I had never been in a Greyhound station before so that was a bit of an adventure. Must say I am extremely pleased with the purchase. I had a few questions and Ben called/emailed me very quickly. Here are some pics of the bar installed in my very dirty 95 M.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/524104_3209147434548_1442074939_47352041_139484730 8_n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/303486_3209147674554_1442074939_47352042_63016799_ n.jpg
http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/485697_3209147874559_1442074939_47352043_148720315 4_n.jpg

[BadBlkE36]

Ben,
Will you ship to Toronto, ON, Canada? If so, how much?
Please PM me. Thanks!

[canisM3]

how much shipped to 94611? I am interested in a bar that will be much closer to the roof as I am a tall guy, I plan on removing the sunroof and utilizing a bolt in or carbon sunroof plug, but retaining the liner, if it "rubs the liner" no problem, I want it as tight as possible, not sure if I want the X bar or not, any benefits other than the fact that it looks sweet? I would like to have the bar and installed within a months time if possible, I plan on going to a HPDE on june 15th and would like to have this added safety. LMK what you can do

Thanks

edit - also if you could get us a reduced price on shipping, I have some other locals interested in a bar as well!

[whoshaunq]

hmmm how the hell do you get that into the car in one piece???? thats nice... and its bolt in? could you add bars that go down to the floor near the front of the door?\

[mo gun e36]

can you make me a FD cage?

[Widebody325]

Unfortunately all cages are on hold until the first of June. I purchased all the DOM tubing my supplier had last time I was there and he can't get any more until then. I have called all local metal suppliers around Mass, CT, and RI that I can think of and no one can get any DOM! Sorry to everyone who is interested. Email me and I will put you on a email list for when I know when I can start making more again.

[mo gun e36]

But can you make a fd legal cage?

[gbreeE90]

Bump for great work!

http://www.bimmerboost.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=18130&d=1339888160

[sumyungguy]

Hey Ben, I emailed and sent a PM nearly a month ago. Really interested in placing an order.

[DakarDario]

damn i have no need at all one but they are sexyyy

[2590402]

Hi,
Are you still making these? If so I will be up in mass in July I would love to buy one. Let me know.
Andrew

[jeremy5000]

Any chance of you being able to make a removable center section bar?

[Jaze]

But can you make a fd legal cage?

x2 please PM me, i need one.

[Widebody325]

I am still making these. I ran out of material around the first of June and a fellow member drove down with 88ft of tubing which I made 3 bars out of last week. My regular supplier received his shipment this week so it is not a problem getting material at this point. Please email me at ben.sipson@gmail.com if interested. I am sorry if I did not get back to anyone. I do my best to check bimmerforums but sometimes I miss people here. Best way is to email me.

[sumyungguy]

Email sent.

[Jaze]

Email Sent

[Widebody325]

On vacation until Monday. Thank you all who have interested in my bar. Looks like I will be making about a half dozen more when I get back from vacation. Not sure about FD specs with roll bars. Any input would be great. Thank you everyone for the support. I love making these!

[dizzyis]

Ben i love ypur work. Especially the fj. I was the one that came up with my little cousin to purchase your m3. Im interested in one of these whats your production schedule looking like?

[mo gun e36]

would you be interested in assisting me in assembly of my roll cage i odered the broke dick racing kit

[Widebody325]

would you be interested in assisting me in assembly of my roll cage i odered the broke dick racing kit

Unfortunately due to my current schedule I can only provide the roll bars I am fabricating. I dont have the time or space to have another vehicle at my garage. Sorry about that.

[iDOwork]

emailed!

[DakarDario]

emailed, i want one for my m

[Sutt]

Were you ever able to make a jig for E46 cars?

[Widebody325]

Were you ever able to make a jig for E46 cars?

No, no one wanted to let me borrow their car for a weekend to do it :( Still would like to get my hands on one however.

[Sutt]

Rats. Glad to hear you would still like to work on E46s. I thought it would be easy to find someone willing to lend their car up.

[DakarDario]

goin to get mine this weekend :)

[DakarDario]

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/dmoney10/4EC7D7C6-70E4-4EF9-AE90-6EAC1D8A8082-11520-000000790C903AE2.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/dmoney10/c2440176.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y160/dmoney10/F2101354-BE87-4686-9C7E-42386ACE503F-11520-0000007917F6F42C.jpg

[Widebody325]

Love it!!!

[FISEVEN]

Bump!!!! For good craftsmanship.

[Inv3ctiv3]

I PMed the OP today, hope to hear back soon!

[elfmar]

Love your work. I'm going to order one today. Email sent.

[curbing]

Need to get me one of these bars...email sent.

[rcsummers]

too lazy to look through 5 pages. wonder if one of these will fit the e46... i really want a cage with the crossbrace in the rear.

[shled]

too lazy to look through 5 pages. wonder if one of these will fit the e46... i really want a cage with the crossbrace in the rear.

Too lazy to summarize what's already here. ;-)

[rcsummers]

Too lazy to summarize what's already here. ;-)

damn. Ill look through when i have time. I know if won't be exact fit, but worth a shot to find out.

[NotUrAvgM]

Great looking work!

With this design can one leave in the rear seats, rear side panels and do the "hole cutout upholstery mod" somewhat common with other bars to the rear bolsters?

[DakarDario]

Great looking work!

With this design can one leave in the rear seats, rear side panels and do the "hole cutout upholstery mod" somewhat common with other bars to the rear bolsters?

yes, i have my full interior in

[curbing]

Ben shipped my bar on Saturday...got a call from the Philly Greyhound depot that it is available to pick up today...now I need to get off my ass and order seats/harnesses and find time to do the install. Have an event this weekend then some down time before the first track day of 2013 on 2.23, which is my deadline for having this all in by.

[golfduke]

I made the drive down to meet Ben yesterday. I will say this, and keep in mind I'm not a ballwasher nor do I have any ties to him other than this purchase, but- I wish all of my internet transactions went this smoothly. He answers questions promptly, he's around when he says he's around, and he finishes his work when he says he'll be done. He showed me around his workspace and answered any questions I had.

The bar itself is great out of the box. While it's not in the car yet to assure fitment, the pads are all contoured, all hardware and contoured backers are included, and his jig is definitely accurate enough for me to be comfortable with him mass-producing these. The welds? While I wouldn't call them 'perfect', they are certainly effective, not ugly, and burnt in nicely throughout. While I consider myself a hack welder, they are certainly more than adequate and 100x prettier than I could think of making myself, so please don't take this as a knock on the product.

All in all, I couldn't be happier with the transaction so far. He saved me some serious $$ considering I was about 24 hours away from throwing down for a TC Kline bar plus shipping across country for it.

[SCapelo]

Little pic in my sig of the roll bar action :D

[johnnyspeed]

Would you do bash bars to ?

[Widebody325]

Would you do bash bars to ?

Sorry. I am only making the 4pt bolt in bar at this time.

[golfduke]

Installed today. Sorry for the crap pics, but it was cold and dark...

Edit- apparently i dont have enou posts to post pics... Boo.


Overall, i am completely satisfied with the bar and components. Great fit, easy install(<2hours with 2 people), and it's definitely solid.

Thanks again Ben!

[golfduke]

I finally have 15 posts for pic urls-

http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/golfduke/photobucket-4614-1357075033555.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/golfduke/photobucket-38972-1357075063518.jpg
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f332/golfduke/photobucket-2333-1357075047526.jpg

[Widebody325]

Still making these!

[jbimmah]

Hi, I might want one of these seeing as the drift shop around here that was supposed to build me a custom half cage for $630 welded in stopped answering calls suddenly a couple weeks ago. So what's the shipping cost to Oakland, California greyhound station?

- Jon

[audimused]

PM'd you, i am very interested in your roll bar.

[justinlansdale]

Still making these?

[Slippery]

I am also interested in a rollbar. Let me know if you are still making them.

[Inflame]

Want! Will be contacting you soon!

[eurosteeze]

Hi I am very interested in having you make one of these for me. A few questions.

1. With the original "x" design can you still put all the rear seat components in their spot?

2. Would you consider shipping to Florida and if so how much would it cost to ship?

3. If not where are you located and how much would it cost me to buy this design roll bar?

email me at alexbukalo@yahoo.com

My instagram is euro_steeze

I tried to pm you but your mailbox is full.

[GFPR]

Still making these? Love your original design with the X-Brace. Would need shipped as well, PM me when you have the chance. I was about to buy an Autopower bar.

[Harvington]

Hey! The forum loves your product.

I'm interested in a bar for an e36 m3, as all your post seem to have.

I need a rough estimate of what it'd be to greyhound a bar to a Minneapolis, MN stop. Let me know! Thanks

-Jake

[yousmellfunny2]

I shot him an email and he mentioned he is no longer making them at this time.

Trying to see if maybe a group buy will get him producing again, because I have been eyeing these up.

[NealM]

Got the same response, I would be in if there is a group buy

[olemiss540]

+10000

[dragonfly2k3]

I would be willing to buy 3-4 and distribute them if he gets back in to production .

[connore36m3]

I would be in as well!

[M3GUSTA]

I shot him an email and he mentioned he is no longer making them at this time.

Trying to see if maybe a group buy will get him producing again, because I have been eyeing these up.

Interested in group buy as well

[GFPR]

NOOOOOOOO I really want this bar.

[girolamous]

Yes, I too am ready to go in for a roll bar for my track car. What's the critical mass to get this guy to go back into production?

Interested in group buy as well

[somesingworks]

Damnit, always late for everything. I too am interested in one of these AWESOME​ roll bar.

[Jaze]

I have one for sale, made by the OP which is practically new. It is for a coupe, PM me.

[bladerealm124]

I have one for sale, made by the OP which is practically new. It is for a coupe, PM me.

PM'ed

[alwaysinboost]

too bad this guy doesn't make them anymore. I have one and the construction is awesome, not to mention the price can't be beat. took my and a buddy less than an hour to install in my e36. Was really hoping to pick up another for a friend over the winter.

[sk8rpirate]

Anyone have one of these for sale

[Jaze]

2 posts up, I have a brand new one for sale. Only one for sale that i know of.

[vchau76]

Jaze, I sent you a PM. Very interested.

[GFPR]

If only this bar would go back into production!

[XYR03]

What happened to the OP did he just stop making them?

[jdehaan]

+1 I'm ready to order!

[golfduke]

I was fortunate enough to get one and pick it up from him quite a while back (over a year ago). I think you guys need to understand he's got a full time day job, and these are extremely time intensive to make. I'm sure he'd love to make them for everyone, but life happens sometimes. I think he told me it takes a full 4 nights just to make 3 cages. At the cost, I can totally see why he's not making them anymore.

[XYR03]

I was fortunate enough to get one and pick it up from him quite a while back (over a year ago). I think you guys need to understand he's got a full time day job, and these are extremely time intensive to make. I'm sure he'd love to make them for everyone, but life happens sometimes. I think he told me it takes a full 4 nights just to make 3 cages. At the cost, I can totally see why he's not making them anymore.


It's very respectable. I used to wrap cars and shadowline trim and it just got to a point where it just wasn't worth the effort for the price I was charging.

[milhaus]

Dagnabbit...been following this for a year or more. Now that I have my M3 ready to roll on the track this spring...no cage. Sure would hate to have to run the TC Kline after seeing this cage.

[Jaze]

Been getting a lot of PMs about the bar. I sold it a while back fellas, sorry.

[Okemom333]

Nice work, I actually have a Kirk RC in my car now but I am looking for something a little more Serious. I live in CT, I would like a half cage (rear only) from rear shock tower to front seat.. Any pricing or pics of any you have done.. PM me..
P.S. this is for a dedicated track car.

Thanks,
Nathan

[e36cruiser]

I also live in CT and would love a half cage also like OKemom333 said above. PM if this is possible.

[chad97m3]

I had a half cage done locally by swift innovations out of mystic ct. If you want any pics let me know. We have since made it a full cage. He does excellent work. You can also see car in person if local enough.

[bladerealm124]

I had a half cage done locally by swift innovations out of mystic ct. If you want any pics let me know. We have since made it a full cage. He does excellent work. You can also see car in person if local enough.

Pics would be much appreciated. What was his price for the half cage? Any idea of the weight and tube specs? Thanks

[chad97m3]

I think 70lbs. It was done 4 years ago. Not sure what current price would be now Let me look for pics.

[bladerealm124]

I think 70lbs. It was done 4 years ago. Not sure what current price would be now Let me look for pics.

Thanks. If possible could you post or PM what you paid back then just to get a general idea of what to expect? I will give them a call for a more updated quote when I'm ready to purchase

[TXBDan]

VSR is in NH. I'll be buying one soon and they build to order. You guys want to try to get a group deal? I don't know if they do that, but PM if you're interested and I'll ask them.

[retrogrouch]

VSR is in NH. I'll be buying one soon and they build to order. You guys want to try to get a group deal? I don't know if they do that, but PM if you're interested and I'll ask them.

It's worth asking Mario if he will agree to a group buy. He's done it for the e30M3 SIG in the past with his exhausts. He makes great stuff.

[TXBDan]

He said if i got a group of 3 together he'd not $35 off each. Not really worth the trouble imo. I'll be ordering one soon though, so i guess if anyone wants one too let me know. I'm not going to start an effort for it though. :)

[bladerealm124]

He said if i got a group of 3 together he'd not $35 off each. Not really worth the trouble imo. I'll be ordering one soon though, so i guess if anyone wants one too let me know. I'm not going to start an effort for it though. :)

What does he charge normally?

[TXBDan]

$775 picked up

[bladerealm124]

$775 picked up

Hmm not too bad. But I really wish the OP would make them again for $500!

[SneauxM3]

I would certainly be interested in this as well, but given the history of the thread to this point...makes me wonder if it'd be better to see if he'd consider a Group Buy. Get 5-10 ppl lined up, cash ready...possible even 50% upfront from each purchasing member.

Get enough ppl to COMMIT to buying one, so that way he would know the money is there and waiting, or even if deposit needed.

[MAK3N3]

I'd be down for one made by the OP as well. I can def put a depo/have funds ready etc. LMK - Thanks!

[MSpeedAddict]

How would this fit with rear side panels?

[NotUrAvgM]

So I just purchased and installed a rear roll bar that I am 90% sure is OP's design.

One piece, 1.75 OD, contoured foot plates, great welds, originally purchased in CT ~2 years ago. All those facts line up correctly.

I needed something to break up the monotony of Cosmos/black, so I hit it with a splash of New Holland Red (like the tractor). I also bought some rear side bolsters that I will contour around the bar later on:


http://i.imgur.com/p6N1EI6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dNOA26C.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/H6fI8o5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bfO44Ob.jpg

[sdobart]

Somebody PM the OP and let's get him to make us one last batch for a group-buy :D

[KFeez]

Somebody PM the OP and let's get him to make us one last batch for a group-buy :D


Yeah I'm on board with this plan. Someone message me if this becomes a reality. I'm definately game.

[burnurass]

How would this fit with rear side panels?

It fits, but it's Very Very very very tight. as seen below.


So I just purchased and installed a rear roll bar that I am 90% sure is OP's design.

One piece, 1.75 OD, contoured foot plates, great welds, originally purchased in CT ~2 years ago. All those facts line up correctly.

I needed something to break up the monotony of Cosmos/black, so I hit it with a splash of New Holland Red (like the tractor). I also bought some rear side bolsters that I will contour around the bar later on:


http://i.imgur.com/p6N1EI6.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/dNOA26C.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/H6fI8o5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/bfO44Ob.jpg

make a diy on how you got the roll bar in :)

[NotUrAvgM]

make a diy on how you got the roll bar in :)

Equal parts chin scratching and magic. We should have put my Gopro on time lapse lol.

[NY98M3]

What was the reason for not making them anymore?

[bladerealm124]

What was the reason for not making them anymore?
I think OP simply did not have enough time to continue making them, he stated that he would email me if he began production again later this year (that was a few months ago)

[King Hax]

I emailed OP last week or so, and I haven't gotten a reply yet. I don't want to hassle the guy, but it would be nice to at least get a no lol it's better than having the big question mark hanging over my head.

Going by these pictures, he does great work. I hope he resumes, I'd be in for the group buy.

If he's stopped, though, it would be nice to know so that I can stop bugging him.

[sdobart]

He emailed me this morning, said he isn't gonna make any more.

[King Hax]

He emailed me this morning, said he isn't gonna make any more.

That's too bad, thanks for the heads-up.

[Boomerbimmer]

I like your roll bar and the options you offer in design but Boston is a bit of a hike. Have you investigated offering Yellow Freight as a carrier. I don't think they require packing and since it's not painted who would care if it got a few scratches?

[NotUrAvgM]

Someone should lock this to stop giving people false hope!

[uconnr]

I may have one of these for sale in the near future, but would have to be local as I have no interest in trying to ship it. Its one of his original X-bar designs made of the .120 DOM (IMO much better for Street car weight). PM or email me if local and interested.

[Slippery]

I may have one of these for sale in the near future, but would have to be local as I have no interest in trying to ship it. Its one of his original X-bar designs made of the .120 DOM (IMO much better for Street car weight). PM or email me if local and interested.

Pm sent

[sdobart]

OP isn't making these anymore but somebody with the fab skills should pick up where he left off and make some good money. Plenty of demand.

I'm looking to buy one with the extra cross bar in the back, either tubing thickness. PM if you have one for sale, thanks.

[Widebody325]

I am back from the dead. I have one completed and is ready for pick up or to be shipped via greyhound. Instead of taking orders I am making these as I can then listing them as available. I will be starting a list of interested parties and it is a first come first serve basis. This one does not have a rear x brace. $550
http://images.craigslist.org/00t0t_1K1reIgLpRX_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00000_aobcmSIVGhU_600x450.jpg

[NY98M3]

PM sent :)

[NotUrAvgM]

Prodigal son returns!


In case anyone has a sedan and is wondering, you can get the bar into the car, even through the smaller front sedan doors. I moved my bar over from my 99 coupe to 98 sedan. There is more clearance to the headliner, as you would anticipate.

[sdobart]

$150 price bump is steep. Probably worth it though I guess. I just bought a Kirk bar or else I'd probably consider it.

[Widebody325]

Can you take some pics and email me? I am very interested to see the fitment.

Prodigal son returns!


In case anyone has a sedan and is wondering, you can get the bar into the car, even through the smaller front sedan doors. I moved my bar over from my 99 coupe to 98 sedan. There is more clearance to the headliner, as you would anticipate.

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$150 price bump is steep. Probably worth it though I guess. I just bought a Kirk bar or else I'd probably consider it.

Edited: $100 bump for rear x brace. $50 bump for non x brace. @ $4.75 a linear foot this stuff is not cheap. My material cost is very high and this is the only way I can make it worth my time.

[CivetaDei]

So the quotes on the front page are accurate now? If it's 600 for one with a rear x-brace I will take the first one available.

[Widebody325]

Yes please email me.

[TXBDan]

$550 is cheap for a new rollbar.

[doktor b]

annnnnnnnd subscribed for future rollbar production and eventual purchase.

[5speed300]

Have you ever made a rollbar for a non-sunroof car before? I'd like the bar to fit pretty close to the roof like the TCKline bars do. Would you also be open to adjusting the height of the harness bar, or adding a second harness bar? I'm tall (6'7) and would need the bar higher than standard, so adding a second one might be a good option.

[Widebody325]

I have not made a bar for a non sunroof bar. Easy enough to add height. However, without a car to test it on I cannot guarantee fitment. I know every bar I have made fits well and I wouldnt really want to compromise my product with guess work. Same goes for the harness bar. Im 6'4" and I just have my seat setup much lower than most people.

[darbyfam]

Have one in my car I bought second hand from a forum member. Great fitment, easy install, clean welds. Mine is powder coated.

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/darbyfam/IMG_2347_zpsy1cuhrwc.jpg
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/darbyfam/IMG_2360_zpswwmrirbl.jpg

[NotUrAvgM]

Have one in my car I bought second hand from a forum member. Great fitment, easy install, clean welds. Mine is powder coated.



Cosmos with a red bar. Man after my own heart ;)

I sprayed mine New Holland Red and looks darn close to your shade.

[dasmeth]

any idea what shipping via greyhound would be?

[Widebody325]

$150 flat rate anywhere in continental United States.

[mateo m3]

Can't pm you for some reason , but I'm interested in a roll bar for a coupe, please pm me thanks

[mateo m3]

😞

[Widebody325]

Price reduction to move the current bar I have for sale. Good through 8/16 This is no rear X brace. $500 picked up or $650 shipped

[NY98M3]

Picked up one of these after 3 years lol

Drove to Ben's house and he had it all ready within a few days. I spec'd the bar with the x brace and the 2 short bars. Overkill yes, but it looks great. Cant wait to get it installed!

Thanks Ben!

[Widebody325]

I had last 2 people back out on this one. So I currently have this one built and ready to ship. $750 shipped via greyhound. Email me if interested ben.sipson@gmail.com
http://images.craigslist.org/00101_9MkIrmyjvhn_600x450.jpg
http://images.craigslist.org/00P0P_cv6RLjPwMho_600x450.jpg

[aussiebj]

how much picked up im on long island

[Widebody325]

$600

[NY98M3]

how much picked up im on long island

Take the ferry, super easy ride. Fit right in the back of my Nissan pathfinder

[Butters Stoch]

Op, please contact me for some metal work.

[crazyyardie]

Need contact also for a cage shipped to Miami Florida. What's the time line to build one. What is required to start ?

[BlackHawkRacing]

Need contact also for a cage shipped to Miami Florida. What's the time line to build one. What is required to start ?

Ditto only I would be picking up.

[NY98M3]

You guys need to email Ben. His email is listed here in the thread in post #198

[BlackHawkRacing]

Thanks for the heads up! Emailed!

[Widebody325]

Hey guys. Still rocking and rolling on these. Please email me at ben.sipson@gmail.com for any questions.

[alwaysinboost]

I have one of these rollbars for a coupe available. Has the extra X in the back. Comes complete with backing plates and all hardware.

Pickup only in PA 19446.

If anyone is interested send an email @ alwaysinboost@msn.com

[Boomerbimmer]

Price???

[JOwen]

I have one of these rollbars for a coupe available. Has the extra X in the back. Comes complete with backing plates and all hardware.

Pickup only in PA 19446.

If anyone is interested send an email @ alwaysinboost@msn.com

Email sent.

[Widebody325]

Built 2 this week and still going strong. If interested email me at Ben.sipson@gmail.com and a big thank you to everyone who I have made a bar for! You guys are awesome and I'm glad I can help.

[RandomHero27]

Built 2 this week and still going strong. If interested email me at Ben.sipson@gmail.com and a big thank you to everyone who I have made a bar for! You guys are awesome and I'm glad I can help.

i didnt look through the entire thread, but can you make a bolt-in 6 point with door bars for an e36 coupe w/ sunroof?

[Widebody325]

i didnt look through the entire thread, but can you make a bolt-in 6 point with door bars for an e36 coupe w/ sunroof?

No I don't. You should just have a shop fab something up. That's a "roll cage" and I would recommend doing it properly.

[rmp459]

How hard are these to get into the car considering they are one piece? I know the kirk bar has collars for the rear bars.
Also, how is the fitment? I'd imagine tweaking anything with that x-brace in the back is pretty tough.

[NotUrAvgM]

How hard are these to get into the car considering they are one piece? I know the kirk bar has collars for the rear bars.
Also, how is the fitment? I'd imagine tweaking anything with that x-brace in the back is pretty tough.

Not bad once you realize the way to get them through the door is nearly the same orientation they finally mount. Don't need to angle it like crazy or tilt it etc. Just don't gouge the feet on anything.

Fitment is excellent. Any slight inconsistencies in the bar or car get negated when you tighten it down and the BMW tin foil recontours itself...

[JOwen]

How hard are these to get into the car considering they are one piece?

I installed mine by myself in a one car garage. So not that difficult.

[Widebody325]

Sold 2 more this week!! Thanks again everyone!!! You guys kick ass!

[Butters Stoch]

Sold 2 more this week!! Thanks again everyone!!! You guys kick ass!

I need one.

[Widebody325]

Also I just started making the same bar but e46 m3 fitment. No good installed pics as of yet because they are getting sold too fast

[Butters Stoch]

Also I just started making the same bar but e46 m3 fitment. No good installed pics as of yet because they are getting sold too fast

If you go to the NH area soon, bring an E36 one with you. I'll pay extra for delivery. I recently did some work on a car with one of yours bars in it.
Very impressed.

[BlackHawkRacing]

Anyone looking to get one of these from Ben should do it now. A+ quality & Fit, A+^10 value. Had two instructors at my last HPDE asking how they could get one.

http://s31.postimg.org/3oyeqenkr/12592608_10100450370880291_1938562093172999006_n.j pg

[NY98M3]

Looks good!

You didn't want to try and get the back seat back in there?

Did you need to remove the side panels to get it in?

[BlackHawkRacing]

Looks good!

You didn't want to try and get the back seat back in there?

Did you need to remove the side panels to get it in?

Thanks!
Back seats where coming out regardless since no one can sit back there. Sold them to fund some other mods. However, I didn't want to just leave it blank since this is Street/Track car and I use the trunk to transport tools etc when driving to the track. They would have fit fine though should I wanted to leave them. Side panels did have to come out and took some finessing to get back into place but they do fit in the OEM location.

[Jaze]

I bought the first batch of these many many years ago, and it was top notch. Best bolt in I've seen by a huge margin.

[jjwilson89]

How much shipped to 92865? PM me.

[fusionr300zx]

emailed

[Widebody325]

Going strong.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13151691_10153639171616274_1776080010785608894_n.j pg?oh=21f6f95fafc24f8c44972cdf6cd87a58&oe=57A6E415

[mateo m3]

Going strong.

https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/13151691_10153639171616274_1776080010785608894_n.j pg?oh=21f6f95fafc24f8c44972cdf6cd87a58&oe=57A6E415
Pmd you..

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[Butters Stoch]

Ben is a f#cke@ animal.
I ordered 2 last week, and he had them to me in a couple days !!
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[NY98M3]

Ben is a f#cke@ animal.
I ordered 2 last week, and he had them to me in a couple days !!


He got mine done is 2 days, super quick, now I just need to install it.

I went with the same design and added the 2 short bars, make sure you get paint on it asap, mine has surface rust within a few days of being in the garage.

[Mod Addict]

Ben is a f#cke@ animal. I ordered 2 last week, and he had them to me in a couple days !! [/URL]


Here's mine painted & ready 4 install. Ben does a Awesome job !



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[pDubs]

This is still local pickup only?

[Widebody325]

Ive been shipping these via greyhound for about 2 years. Also making these for e46 coupes now. Please email me for info. Ben.sipson@gmail.com

[Hunterg2jz]

Emailed

[Spags]

Emailed

[Mouger]

Ben & his roll bar is awesome. He was super quick to ship it out, & greyhound was actually quick and got it out to the west coast in less than 2 weeks. Ben's communication has been timely and helpful. Painted it this week and just got it installed today. Will maybe do a dyi on it. Great fitment, looks like it was custom welded in.
A few pics;
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[blatant]

That's nice, thanks for sharing the pics of it installed/painted!
Ill be contacting you in the spring for one.

[JOwen]

This makes me want to paint mine. Currently just flat black.

[Mouger]

Final pic. At a wet & cold Laguna Seca
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[Widebody325]

Final pic. At a wet & cold Laguna Seca
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I am so happy my bar is being run around Laguna Seca. Thanks for posting pictures!

[rushtillyoudie]

will the coupe version fit a convertible with a hardtop on?

[wake74]

Can anyone who has put one of these into a Sedan care to comment? I know from speaking from Ben it will fit, but is tight. I'd like to get the cross-brace version, but don't want to have it not fit through the door. For an extra hundred bucks, the cross bracing seems like a no-brainer assuming, I can fit it in.

[Mod Addict]

Can anyone who has put one of these into a Sedan care to comment? I know from speaking from Ben it will fit, but is tight. I'd like to get the cross-brace version, but don't want to have it not fit through the door. For an extra hundred bucks, the cross bracing seems like a no-brainer assuming, I can fit it in.


Mine was in my e36 sedan. Fit perfect and wasn't hard to install.




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[wake74]

Sorry I should have answered my own question. Bens bar is all installed. Ben was super easy to work with and even listened to my whining when I was struggling to get it to fit in the car :-)

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[mslevin]

Could someone with one of these in a coupe post a picture from the side, looking at the B pillar? I'm pretty tall and I'm worried that this rollbar won't let me get a bucket seat back far enough.

[bostonaudi]

Could someone with one of these in a coupe post a picture from the side, looking at the B pillar? I'm pretty tall and I'm worried that this rollbar won't let me get a bucket seat back far enough.

I can, I'm 6'5" and I have Ben's bar in my 95 M3 coupe. I can tell you right off to forget about roll bars with the stock Vaders, at my height there simply isn't enough room. At this point my Cobra Suzuka Pro's are permanently installed, and with those I have plenty of room. If you have a sunroof you must also remove the cassette, then a car as small as an E36 starts to work for tall folks.

I'll post pics when I get home.

[mslevin]

I can, I'm 6'5" and I have Ben's bar in my 95 M3 coupe. I can tell you right off to forget about roll bars with the stock Vaders, at my height there simply isn't enough room. At this point my Cobra Suzuka Pro's are permanently installed, and with those I have plenty of room. If you have a sunroof you must also remove the cassette, then a car as small as an E36 starts to work for tall folks.

I'll post pics when I get home.

That'd be great, thanks. I'm also 6'5", sunroof cassette removed. I have a Sparco R100 mounted low and far back on custom mounts, looking to move to a bucket seat sometime soon. Right now the back of my seat is right about in the middle of the B pillar, although I could move it forward an inch or two.

[bostonaudi]

Some shots, let me know if you need more.

My car is currently in the garage on jackstands undergoing full rear suspension rebuild so lighting not the best. There is still some room to put drivers seat further back, but not a whole lot.

Currently I'm using Schroth quickfit harnesses with eventual move to 5 or 6 point.

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[Hell Machine]

I'm 6'4" and was worried about the same thing, I had ben put a curved harness bar and it's perfect. Running a sparco ergo L on custom mounts with plenty of room to work with https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/8bdaa0e362b4f78992b56b89be316406.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/1416f203c119e0e6d8a79d2e96d2134c.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170209/cff26009116d39ab847f04d68a52c153.jpg

[mslevin]

I'm 6'4" and was worried about the same thing, I had ben put a curved harness bar and it's perfect. Running a sparco ergo L on custom mounts with plenty of room to work with

Wow this is great. Thats exactly the seat I was looking at. Going to contact Ben now!