BMW Excluservice

[HarryN]

I am in the process of having my car properly repaired by Ben Sarli at Sarli Motorsports. However, after he is done, I want to clean up the exterior. I have all the sheet metal, seals, and what have you, however, I am also looking for a good shop. Ben has recommended one, but they are a bit far. However, if they are my best choice for getting the car done right, I will gladly take it there.

In the mean time, I came across this place from the BMW CCA boards: http://www.bmwexcluservice.com/

Does anyone have any experience with them? From what I heard, they host DIY shops for BMW CCA members, and also restore BMWs as well. They are a stone throw away from where I live, and if they are reasonable and good at what they do, I will take my M3 there.

[scooper]

They are expensive. Try german autowerks behind the rockville metro. Ask for Dennis. Next door is an autobody shop (victor's). Ask for Juan. They both do good work but the shops are far from clean. For performance related stuff try RRT in Dulles. Good luck!

[EEDegreeToDrive]

I am in the process of having my car properly repaired by Ben Sarli at Sarli Motorsports. However, after he is done, I want to clean up the exterior. I have all the sheet metal, seals, and what have you, however, I am also looking for a good shop. Ben has recommended one, but they are a bit far. However, if they are my best choice for getting the car done right, I will gladly take it there.

In the mean time, I came across this place from the BMW CCA boards: http://www.bmwexcluservice.com/

Does anyone have any experience with them? From what I heard, they host DIY shops for BMW CCA members, and also restore BMWs as well. They are a stone throw away from where I live, and if they are reasonable and good at what they do, I will take my M3 there.
BMWExcluservice is a good BMW exclusive shop, but can be pricey.
I took my 8 there one time needing a rear-upper control arm bushing, was quoted one high (but reasonable for MD) price. They were able to perform a short cut on the repair that shaved off some time; and they charged me significantly less than quoted.

Happy with the honesty of the shop, I picked up my 8, and left my E32 735i for an oil change, transmission service, and front-main-seal; I had the trans filter and seal in the trunk, and they didn't put up a fuss about using my parts. Nice folks.

Stephane (manager) is a regular in the forum too.

I'll be there tomorrow with my 8 for the BMW CCA DIY session. Just a few things minor things I'd like to do, really just going for the meet-n-greet, but it'll force me to work on my car for a few hours.

[HarryN]

Ahh ok, because I really want to spruce up my baby, after the abuse the poor thing went through by the previous owner. I think I owe the car that much, plus me as well. LOL!

But if I can find a reasonable shop that can do the body work closer than Annapolis, it would be great. I was also looking into Jeff's Body Shop, up in Annapolis. I heard they do amazingly awesome work for a great price. But that is all I know.

[HarryN]

They are expensive. Try german autowerks behind the rockville metro. Ask for Dennis. Next door is an autobody shop (victor's). Ask for Juan. They both do good work but the shops are far from clean. For performance related stuff try RRT in Dulles. Good luck!

Are they off Stoner street? Because I went by there this weekend, and didn't see German Autowerks. Where is their sign?

[scooper]

off N horners lane. Turn right on southlawn and they're on the RHS.

535 C-2 Southlawn Lane Rockville, MD 20850

(301) 424-7463 They're also open on Saturdays which is nice. You can tell them I referred you. They'll treat you well.

[HarryN]

off N horners lane. Turn right on southlawn and they're on the RHS.

535 C-2 Southlawn Lane Rockville, MD 20850

(301) 424-7463 They're also open on Saturdays which is nice. You can tell them I referred you. They'll treat you well.

Cool beans! I appreciate it. I just hope they aren't going to gouge me. I can even bring the car in pieces if they want, to help save costs in painting and labor, though I gotta find out how I am going to get there unnoticed by cops. LOL!

Do they know BMWs well, especially a 95? I guess I will give em a call this week and get some more info.

[scooper]

hahaha...they're fair. they mostly service bmws but I've seen a few mercedes, audis and porsches in there too. Next door is victor's autobody. They'll do stuff for cheap but make sure they know exactly what you want. What color is your car going to be?

[HarryN]

hahaha...they're fair. they mostly service bmws but I've seen a few mercedes, audis and porsches in there too. Next door is victor's autobody. They'll do stuff for cheap but make sure they know exactly what you want. What color is your car going to be?

My car is Avus Blue. I was thinking about painting the hood black for more heat dissipation. But I don't know how much more heat dissipation that will give me, or if it is negligible.

But that is the goal. I just picked up a hood in perfect condition from cool2seat this weekend. I know I got a couple dings to pull out, along with repainting the rear bumper, spraying the front bumper, driver's side fender, nose panel, LTW wing, and hood. I have the nose panel, fender, and front bumper separate from the car (as in not attached, they are sitting in my basement), but the other stuff, I hope shouldn't cost too much. It will mostly be buffing, wet sanding, or just spraying/blending a small section. Nothing too involved. The good thing is the car has no rust anywhere.

[scooper]

get a carbon fiber GTR hood for heat dissipation otherwise, just keep it stock. Was the car a basket case? what happened to the 325?

[trackbball21]

get a carbon fiber GTR hood for heat dissipation otherwise, just keep it stock. Was the car a basket case? what happened to the 325?

Sold the 325 to my cousin!

Harry - were you able to eventually find a legit nose panel from someone reputable? I still can't believe that that other guy sold you that thing claiming it was oem, or that it would even come close to fitting your car.

[HarryN]

get a carbon fiber GTR hood for heat dissipation otherwise, just keep it stock. Was the car a basket case? what happened to the 325?

I dunno about getting a CF GTR hood. I'll pass on that.

The 325 is long gone, and like trackball said, sold to his cousin... the lucky guy. I am regretting selling that car now. LOL! It was an great shape, minus suspension. But it was far from a basket case.

Trackball - Yeah, I trashed that nose panel and just bought a new one after learning my lesson from that kid. It was complete junk. I should have walked from the deal when I saw him yank it out of his trunk. Oh well. Live and learn. There was no way that thing was going to fit, and the other big hint was why he repaired his original nose panel and sold the junk aftermarket one to me.

[GaryE30]

My car is Avus Blue. I was thinking about painting the hood black for more heat dissipation. But I don't know how much more heat dissipation that will give me, or if it is negligible.

But that is the goal. I just picked up a hood in perfect condition from cool2seat this weekend. I know I got a couple dings to pull out, along with repainting the rear bumper, spraying the front bumper, driver's side fender, nose panel, LTW wing, and hood. I have the nose panel, fender, and front bumper separate from the car (as in not attached, they are sitting in my basement), but the other stuff, I hope shouldn't cost too much. It will mostly be buffing, wet sanding, or just spraying/blending a small section. Nothing too involved. The good thing is the car has no rust anywhere.

I'm trying to understand this and cannot seem to make sense of this.

Painting your hood black would only result in more heat absorption. If you're trying to replicate a thermal blackbody emitter, the hood is not where you should be looking. The hood is constantly under thermal loading (radiation) from the sun and if you paint it black you'll be absorbing more than you do now (avus)

While the color black also radiates heat better than, say, a polished surface, this would be negligible since its the hood, which is exposed to high amounts of radiation. If you had an intercooler/radiator/etc. that was black this would be of some relevance. Also just painting something black won't help much because you're adding a layer of "insulator," if you will, in the form of paint.

Someone school me if I'm wrong, but this is what I understood 3 yrs ago when studying heat transfer.

[HarryN]

I'm trying to understand this and cannot seem to make sense of this.

Painting your hood black would only result in more heat absorption. If you're trying to replicate a thermal blackbody emitter, the hood is not where you should be looking. The hood is constantly under thermal loading (radiation) from the sun and if you paint it black you'll be absorbing more than you do now (avus)

While the color black also radiates heat better than, say, a polished surface, this would be negligible since its the hood, which is exposed to high amounts of radiation. If you had an intercooler/radiator/etc. that was black this would be of some relevance. Also just painting something black won't help much because you're adding a layer of "insulator," if you will, in the form of paint.

Someone school me if I'm wrong, but this is what I understood 3 yrs ago when studying heat transfer.

Sure thing. Stefan-Boltzmann law of thermal radiation.

If the heat I am emitting inside the engine bay is beyond the heat that is being generated from the sun (in this case the car constantly moving on the track), the heat would be dissipated more from the color black. Yes, the color black is also a good absorber, but it is, at the same time a good emitter.

My only question was if it is negligible.

[Shady3One3]

If you're that concerned about reducing heat from the engine compartment, vent your hood like everyone else.

[HarryN]

If you're that concerned about reducing heat from the engine compartment, vent your hood like everyone else.

My only concern with that is creating turbulance inside the engine compartment, and creating a convection oven, as opposed to just letting the air flow to dissipate the heat better.

I can understand if there was an air intake underneath the vents to bring in more cold air or an intercooler, but I don't know if the vents will really do anything when neither component exist to really use the vents properly.

[GaryE30]

Sure thing. Stefan-Boltzmann law of thermal radiation.

If the heat I am emitting inside the engine bay is beyond the heat that is being generated from the sun (in this case the car constantly moving on the track), the heat would be dissipated more from the color black. Yes, the color black is also a good absorber, but it is, at the same time a good emitter.

My only question was if it is negligible.

I see your point. Thanks for clarifying. I think we both said the same thing just had different assumptions as to where the most heat was coming from.

You can cut the vents to allow controlled turbulent flow. The way you cut can determine if it's an inlet or outlet, thus, controlling it better. Have you thought about a small cowl as well?

[HarryN]

I see your point. Thanks for clarifying. I think we both said the same thing just had different assumptions as to where the most heat was coming from.

You can cut the vents to allow controlled turbulent flow. The way you cut can determine if it's an inlet or outlet, thus, controlling it better. Have you thought about a small cowl as well?

A small cowel... on the hood?

[GaryE30]

Yeah mang!

[ButtDyno]

They are expensive. Try german autowerks behind the rockville metro. Ask for Dennis.
Not Autoy Autowerke right?

[HarryN]

Not Autoy Autowerke right?

Why?

[scooper]

german autoworks (sorry for mispelling)... look in a previous post for detailed info including address and phone number.

[HarryN]

I take it German Autoworks are pretty busy? I called a couple times this morning, no answer.