Powdercoat Fail

[garf]

Problem resolved!

[6erWEBB]

Hmmm... I thought they looked kinda neat since they look chameleon but if they are supposed to be the same color throughout Id be mad as well.

I vote troll away man.. But Im the vengeful type.

[CAJUN]

Byzanz wheels FTW!

[pup]

Did you put it on a credit card?

[RidgeBack]

Did you put it on a credit card?

For his sake I hope so. Just call the CC and cancel the charge.

[IslandS62]

ALL services that request PRE PAYMENT = credit card

That sucks. I'd be livid. YELP review the shit out of them.

[cleoent]

Get cc to refund charge. Call bbb.

[Goon]

For what it's worth, I think they look kind of funky (in a good way). All the best with getting it resolved.

[RobbieR]

Rice.

[SilverBeam]

If only there was an organization with a three letter acronym that you could call to resolve this for you...


If only....

[LupinIII]

lol thought it was supposed to be color shift coating, didn't know that was from different paint thickness

sun yellow blackmonte.png


If only there was an organization with a three letter acronym that you could call to resolve this for you...


If only....

I think the kkk would only care if the business is run by black people. didn't get that info from OP's post

[garf]

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[rocketwagon]

For what it's worth, I think they look kind of funky (in a good way). All the best with getting it resolved.

I was thinking the same thing...that they're kind of interesting-looking in a not-bad, those-might-grow-on-me kind of way. But I'm guessing that the difference between pics and real life is probably pretty marked, and, yeah, if OP was looking the same color on all 4 wheels...mission not accomplished. :rofl

[IslandS62]

send them your thoughts!
http://www.galaxiepowdercoating.com/apps/calendar/showEvent?calID=1222141&eventID=119812850&next=

I offered this >>
I hear that you guys absolutely suck donkey dick at powdercoating. Yet somehow your lack of skill there pales in comparison to your customer service. Can't wait to tell EVERYONE how much you guys suck.

[540i nashville]

Looks like 2 dark ones and 2 light ones- stick them on opposite sides of the car- good to go.

Orange- really?

[fastfly]

The wheels look good. Dunno what your problem is.

[Kuane]

I thought powder coating rims weakened them?

[garf]

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[fcvapor05]

I thought powder coating rims weakened them?

Not if the powdercoater knows what they are doing. It is possible to ruin an aluminum wheel by baking it at too high a temperature.

[beermedude]

kinda mixed on this one.....look "kinda funky"....but also looks kinda "woody" (like a Model T's wood wheels)...havta see in real life, as finish looks good to me (nice & smooth, no curb rash, etc)....if color was incorrect based on original invoice you have a case, o/wise sounds like whining.....

[rocketwagon]

P.S. OP, let's see the car that the Solar Orb...uh, I mean, Sun Yellow wheels are going on.

[rocketwagon]

P.S. OP, let's see the car that the Solar Orb...uh, I mean, Sun Yellow wheels are going on.

[Kuane]

was the owner of the powder coating shop indian?

[mvancE30]

"only company around that can change one color into two separate colors then yell/curse at a customer for their perfectly reasonable complaint. "

i like how the rims look. wheres the pic of what they're supposed to look like?

but if they dont match, fuck that.

[///Ficarra]

lol thought it was supposed to be color shift coating, didn't know that was from different paint thickness

sun yellow blackmonte.png

I think the kkk would only care if the business is run by black people. didn't get that info from OP's post

Hahahaha! :rofl

[Slvr328IS]

I think the kkk would only care if the business is run by black people. didn't get that info from OP's post

hahahahahahahah

[bimmershark]

mikehunt

[LagunengrunE36]

If you don't put http://bimmerforums.co/chat/themes/dark/emoticons/cool.png as your center caps once the wheels are finished, you're a woman.

[redfoot]

Snot-rocket their front door.

Childish, but oh-so gratifying.

[5mall5nail5]

Dude - what happened was that the sungold or sun yellow is a two stage powder. They didn't let the wheel cool totally. Any hot spots on the wheel after the first coat (the gold) started curing the clear as they were laying it down. Thus the whacky shades of color.

That sucks.

BUT DONT FEAR

Don't pay $30 to strip the wheels (thats a rip btw). Go to pep boys, autozone, etc., and get yourself a jug of aircraft remover. You can get the jug or the spray cans but you'll need a fair amount of spray cans. Since the parts have already been powder coated, stripping it is CAKE. Simply spray or brush on the aircraft remover liberally and it will literally fall off.

Here is a part I did silver and decided to change last minute:

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/uploads/strip3.jpg

I do a bunch of powder coating - if you need any advice or want some references for places to send to (that are affordable) PM me.

[triggrhaapi]

Two things:

1. You brought this on yourself. What color should I paint my wheels? Hmmm... Yellow. That is totally not a horrid color to paint a set of wheels, nope not at all.

2. They did indeed do a horrible job painting your rims a horrible color. What you have right now is shit squared. It's shit times shit. You could improve them by wiping your ass with them.

[bimmershark]

i miss when i worked at ferris building commercial lawn mowers i could have anything (with in reason) powdercoated any color i wanted as long as it was black/red/orange...

[5mall5nail5]

I thought powder coating rims weakened them?

Yeah, another one of the "real vs fake" rims myths. If it weakened them then OEM's wouldn't bake their finishes ;) A ton of OEM wheels come powder coated with a gel coat that has to cure at a higher temperature than the powder itself. Its bunk bro.

[beermedude]

Two things:

1. You brought this on yourself. What color should I paint my wheels? Hmmm... Yellow. That is totally not a horrid color to paint a set of wheels, nope not at all.

2. They did indeed do a horrible job painting your rims a horrible color. What you have right now is shit squared. It's shit times shit. You could improve them by wiping your ass with them.

(Actually, above is what I initially was thinking when reading post. 1. WHO paints their wheels YELLOW?? Even pic of said target wheel looks hideous in that color. & Can't top #2 above....well stated.)

[5mall5nail5]

Its sungold metallic. Its not yellow. It isn't cured properly and so it looks all wrong.

[RobbieR]

Its sungold metallic. Its not yellow.:shifty

[VandyS4]

Ah yes, gold rims. The mark of sophistication for any car.

[5mall5nail5]

:shifty

I'm very well versed on powders. The only "sun gold" color offered is sun gold metallic from eastwood. You can see the metallic flake in the finish he posted but it was over-cured because they hit it on a hot wheel without keeping the wheel uniformly hot or not letting the whole wheel cool to room temp. The clear/gold started to flow out prematurely.

Here is what it should look like properly cured:

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/sgm.JPG

:shifty

The above pic has a matte clear

Sounds like the powder shop he chose just sucks. But, I've had it happen to me too.

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/uploads/redtubes1.jpg

Note how the cast part of the strut housings (which retains heat the most) is darker than the thinner metal tubing portions. I tried to rush 5 sets of strut housings through the oven all at once and thought they cooled enough but they didn't. (That example is a little awkward because its showing the darker red but also silver. I used a dormant powder that actually lays down silver/chrome, and when the clear is applied a chemical reaction pulls the color pigments up and to the top. The silver spots are spots where the metal was hotter than the dark spots. Super annoying.)

[Steve547i]

Lol way to pick a stupid color.

[Slvr328IS]

Two things:

1. You brought this on yourself. What color should I paint my wheels? Hmmm... Yellow. That is totally not a horrid color to paint a set of wheels, nope not at all.

2. They did indeed do a horrible job painting your rims a horrible color. What you have right now is shit squared. It's shit times shit. You could improve them by wiping your ass with them.


Ah yes, gold rims. The mark of sophistication for any car.

Both worth quoting.

[artifact]

Y'all are idiots sometimes... Who cares what color the OP wants his rims, fact is he paid for a service and didn't get satisfactory results.

[5mall5nail5]

Y'all are idiots sometimes... Who cares what color the OP wants his rims, fact is he paid for a service and didn't get satisfactory results.

Dude stop. You're dangerously close to being rational.

:D

[VandyS4]

Y'all are idiots sometimes... Who cares what color the OP wants his rims, fact is he paid for a service and didn't get satisfactory results.

So you're saying that people shouldn't post criticism that has nothing to do with the point of the OP? (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22541766&postcount=30)

[Jagdkommando]

send them your thoughts!
http://www.galaxiepowdercoating.com/apps/calendar/showEvent?calID=1222141&eventID=119812850&next=

I offered this >>
I hear that you guys absolutely suck donkey dick at powdercoating. Yet somehow your lack of skill there pales in comparison to your customer service. Can't wait to tell EVERYONE how much you guys suck.

posted :cool

[MaxSteel]

Ah yes, gold rims. The mark of sophistication for any car.

haters gonna hate.

[artifact]

So you're saying that people shouldn't post criticism that has nothing to do with the point of the OP? (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22541766&postcount=30)

:lol3 Wow... Reach a little further next time.

[NoOneBetter]

Did any of you guys who posted on the website notice that you are posting in a calendar entry? You should be posting in the guestbook.

http://www.galaxiepowdercoating.com/apps/guestbook/

[Artikgrau325is]

You're planning on putting yellow wheels on a gray car or....?

Hope you get things resolved soon, at least they ponied up $200 so far.

[Donovan]

If only there was an organization with a three letter acronym that you could call to resolve this for you...


If only....

WWF? Good call!! What cha gonna do when the Hulkster comes for YOU!!!

[iowaboostin]

I hope they give you the $ back. They did a bad job regardless of anything else. I left a message for them :)

[WoLF]

Byzanz owns you

[Donovan]

Did any of you guys who posted on the website notice that you are posting in a calendar entry? You should be posting in the guestbook.

http://www.galaxiepowdercoating.com/apps/guestbook/

They are deleting the posts. LOL

[CAJUN]

haters gonna hate.

Owned.

I guess VandyS4 thinks "red convertible" screams class. :rofl2

[bimmershark]

hmmm interdasting

[CAJUN]

hmmm interdasting

Is it too soon to say "interdasting" is getting really old? Shit's wearing me out.

[bimmershark]

i am just saying it so i can say i was there when the hipsters try and bring it back

[CAJUN]

i am just saying it so i can say i was there when the hipsters try and bring it back

Oh, I see. Carry on. But, be sure to where your giant Wayfarers!!!

[garf]

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[Kruger]

Powdercoat my penis pump.

[Eryan36]

If only there was an organization with a three letter acronym that you could call to resolve this for you...


If only....

BBB is a racket, they don't resolve anything.

[VandyS4]

Owned.

I guess VandyS4 thinks "red convertible" screams class. :rofl2

Oh man, did I piss off the gold/black/red/etc. rim people? Disaster.

[Slvr328IS]

http://www.galaxiepowdercoating.com/apps/guestbook/

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff463/stager328/Picture5-1.png

lol who was it.

"I was considering bring"

Drink much, or just dumb? http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e13/Lendo80/cool.png

[MaxSteel]

Oh man, did I piss off the gold/black/red/etc. rim people? Disaster.

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a14/Maxsteel991/Screenshot2011-08-27at11209AM.png
http://dut619.com/m3/images/005.jpg
http://www.s14.net/photopost/data/500/210soper_dtm_2.jpg

I think you're getting a little old to be on bimmerforums :rofl

[Artikgrau325is]

"Should I parkour over to your shop to find out more? Or just shop elsewhere?"

:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl

I'm dying over here, too funny.

[Slvr328IS]

yeah :rofl that line got me.

[sparkchaser]

Get cc to refund charge. Call bbb.

What's BBB gonna do?

[tmaher]

Stab the owners in the throat. I see no other solution.


What's BBB gonna do?bust that conspiracy theory wide open..

[bimmershark]

:shifty

[Volf]

Considering the color you chose maybe you should be relieved?

[sparkchaser]

BBB is a racket, they don't resolve anything.

This is true. The BBB (as well as BBB) are next to useless.

[garf]

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[swolcat]

I'm very well versed on powders. The only "sun gold" color offered is sun gold metallic from eastwood. You can see the metallic flake in the finish he posted but it was over-cured because they hit it on a hot wheel without keeping the wheel uniformly hot or not letting the whole wheel cool to room temp. The clear/gold started to flow out prematurely.

Here is what it should look like properly cured:

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/sgm.JPG

:shifty

The above pic has a matte clear

Sounds like the powder shop he chose just sucks. But, I've had it happen to me too.

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/uploads/redtubes1.jpg

Note how the cast part of the strut housings (which retains heat the most) is darker than the thinner metal tubing portions. I tried to rush 5 sets of strut housings through the oven all at once and thought they cooled enough but they didn't. (That example is a little awkward because its showing the darker red but also silver. I used a dormant powder that actually lays down silver/chrome, and when the clear is applied a chemical reaction pulls the color pigments up and to the top. The silver spots are spots where the metal was hotter than the dark spots. Super annoying.)
Sun gold metallic is a PBP color, not eastwood. EW powder (for the most part) sucks. Sun gold metallic shoots gold (not translucent or candy) and can be cleared but does not have to be. It does appear to be a 2 stage that they used, but Im pretty sure the color variation is in the thickness that was applied. The darker spots are thicker and lighter not thick enough....

[5mall5nail5]

Sun gold metallic is a PBP color, not eastwood. EW powder (for the most part) sucks. Sun gold metallic shoots gold (not translucent or candy) and can be cleared but does not have to be. It does appear to be a 2 stage that they used, but Im pretty sure the color variation is in the thickness that was applied. The darker spots are thicker and lighter not thick enough....

Powder by the pound is not a manufacturer, 99% of their powders are mixed in bulk I know they say they make them etc etc but really they are a mixing facility and will make their colors by mixing others (for instance their bass boat colors are translucents with metallic added) and are the same manufacturers that EW (along with caswell and hundreds of others) gets, they just specialize in dormant and flake powders more than EW does. I use PBP and EW and Caswell and all of their wrinkle blacks match dead on, all of their chromes match dead on, all of their satins match dead on. There's only like 3 actual powder manufacturers. Dupont, Tiger Drylac, and one or two others. Note how they'll mix a custom color but you have to order a minimum of like 15 - 20 lbs. Same thing they do for their own stock, but they stock their own mixes. They also ship in the worst possible container - a plastic bag with a ziptie holding it shut. I've got like 10 orders from them completely ruined due to moisture.

Yes, sun gold metallic needs to be cleared. All metallic powders need to be cleared or they oxidize within hours. Hence the creation of single stage metallic (for instance single stage chrome) which has clear built in. If you do not clear a metallic it'll lose its metallic and change color in short notice. I've even said "screw that" to all the warning on the labels with metallic orange, dormant orange, metallic copper, xtreme chrome, argent silver, etc. and it bit me, which is why that oil filter housing in my picture posted was being stripped ;) Definitely don't get non-cleared metallic powder wet. It'll turn a silver/chrome to a flat dull grey in minutes.

Nope - the issue was that the powder was cured with clear prematurely. You essentially cannot lay powder on too thick - it won't statically cling. Some people like to shoot their base and then shoot their clear with the item hot. Some people try to do that without maintaining the temperature of the item. The result is what you see in the OP. Notice how out of 4 wheels it gets progressively worse and worse. That's because the hotter wheels were done first while the more correct looking wheels had cooled.

[bimmershark]

cool.png

[garf]

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[bimmershark]

fooking solarorb ...maybe a two for one deal?

[Stück]

I had my CCW's done in the same color, except it came out like the sample tile showed:

http://oldmary.lqhome.com/%7Ejordansarette/coppermine/albums/318iS/Pictures/2010/April%202010/042810-002.JPG

[5mall5nail5]

Yep - its actually a nice color... when done properly.

[Stück]

Honestly picture don't even do it justice. It reallly POPS in direct sun light. The metallic grabs the suns rays and throws it all back up in er face like UUUGH.

lol

Here is a pic CCW (Dan) took after they were assembled.
http://oldmary.lqhome.com/%7Ejordansarette/coppermine/albums/318iS/Pictures/2010/April%202010/IMG_6084.jpg

[5mall5nail5]

Yep, its a nice color I've used it many times

[garf]

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[Phil Trill]

I called when I saw that you posted the # and gave them my opinion buwahaha