Buffing problem with Makita and LC pads

[konoplya]

hi. so i got some lake country pads (orange and white) with some megs 205 and 105 for my makita 9227 rotary. im running into a problem though. the 205 with orange pad seems to get absorbed right into the pad and doesnt spread throughout the surface of the car at all. tried buffing at different speeds while constantly moving the makita so not to burn the paint. doesnt remove swirl scratches or anything. i'm not sure of what i'm doing wrong here. i did a lot of research before doing this and watch numerous videos and i'm doing exactly what the instructions say, but its just not working right. the pads i got are these:
http://www.autogeek.net/lake-country-ccs-pack2.html

also, the compound (205) seems to be drying up right away and spreading around in white powderish form.

thanks for any advice.

[mikenap]

Are you priming the pad first? 105 dries out quickly, but you can work it better if you use lower speeds and prime the pad first. Also, both are a bit temperamental in high heat/high humidity situations, but 105 is definitely worse in that respect.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31568&highlight=m205+priming

This should explain how to prime a pad. Also, depending on your paint, 205 on an orange pad may not be aggressive enough to remove swirls and scratches. Try 105 on orange.

[konoplya]

Are you priming the pad first? 105 dries out quickly, but you can work it better if you use lower speeds and prime the pad first. Also, both are a bit temperamental in high heat/high humidity situations, but 105 is definitely worse in that respect.

http://meguiarsonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31568&highlight=m205+priming

This should explain how to prime a pad. Also, depending on your paint, 205 on an orange pad may not be aggressive enough to remove swirls and scratches. Try 105 on orange.

i'm sorry, i meant to say 105, not 205.

i didnt prime the pad. the vids and info i read didn't mention any priming so i didn't do it. i only sprayed some detailer on the pad before applying the compound.

also, i am in arizona and its hotter than hell out right now. even though im working in my garage its still pretty hot.

basically whats happening is that the pad is not gliding smoothly across the surface of the car. once i pick up the bead, like in the autogeek videos, and start working it in, the compound doesn't spread on the surface so its as if i'm applying a pad without anything on it.
it got pretty frustrating so i gave up.

i was able to take some scratches out by hand with 105 that i planned on doing with a machine so i'm at least happy about that.

[mikenap]

Give it another try after priming. It may seem like you use a lot of product while priming, but you'll use less overall since you only need a couple of dots of product after that. Also, I've had limited luck with closing the garage door to keep the heat out while aiming a portable fan directly at the panel I'm working on. It's not an air conditioned garage(yet) but the fan helps a little. Not much, but a little. :)

[konoplya]

Give it another try after priming. It may seem like you use a lot of product while priming, but you'll use less overall since you only need a couple of dots of product after that. Also, I've had limited luck with closing the garage door to keep the heat out while aiming a portable fan directly at the panel I'm working on. It's not an air conditioned garage(yet) but the fan helps a little. Not much, but a little. :)

i already put wax on this beast. im trying to sell the car so i figured i'd go all the way and make it nice. it looks pretty good. you can still see the swirly scratches or whatever they're called, but thats on pretty much every car so i don't think anyone will be nitpicky about it. i got the bigger scratches out by hand (which was a bitch to do).

i guess my next car is going to be the one i'll use a machine on.. when it gets cooler out though :)