why does everyone hate the new 5 series?

[RWE TexM3]

I used to hate it until I saw a black one in real life. The front is nice as hell, the profile is okay, and the back is nice as long as you look straight at it. Seriously can't wait till the new M5 comes out now

[Perks]

I like everything except the rear and the sides, looks too much like a camry/es300 from the side to me, I hate tall doors, yuck.

[SilverStreak]

i personally don't hate the new 5er, but i think more than anything most people really loved the e39 so much, etc...

[ponq]

because it's different

[NickBooras]

I can't stand the front end, mainly the headlights and the kidney grills. Other than that, I don't think it's to bad. I hate how big and heavy they're making all the new generation bimmers, though. I hear the next 3 series is supposed to be as big as the e39. :mad:

[oldM3r]

because it has an ugly ass

[99bmw740il]

i hate them even more in person- its screams PONTIAC- except the pontiac probably has better reliability

[auto_pilot]

What Silver said...E39 one of the nicest designs ever to come from BMW...there was bound to be disappointment...

Also, the car looks to much like other cars already on the road...Rear tail lights remind me of the WRX...How many comments have you heard "Yeah the new 5 series looks like car X..."

[Doglass]

Originally posted by NickBooras
I can't stand the front end, mainly the headlights and the kidney grills. Other than that, I don't think it's to bad. I hate how big and heavy they're making all the new generation bimmers, though. I hear the next 3 series is supposed to be as big as the e39. :mad:
The new 5-series doesn't weigh any more lbs. than the old one. And to all the people who say that the new 5-series looks too much like car X out on the road, you're not looking hard enough.

[Hugo]

Originally posted by meeno
the profile is okay, and the back is nice as long as you look straight at it.

«Okay» and good «as long as...» isn't enough for a BMW. It should be awesome looking in any angle.

That car screams Bangle fugliness all over.

[joekannooks]

The rear actually doesn't look that bad in person. You need the right wheels though. The front though... eww... BMW cousin-of-a-Bonneville.

[DaveLSB///M3]

because it makes me want to throw a few cinderblocks at it mainly toward the driver side because thats the person who was dumb enough to buy it in most cases

[Doglass]

OK, '99 323is for all with wheel covers and maybe your infatuation with the GOOD LOOKS of that car will make you forget about the 5-series

BTW, Laguna Seca Blue looks like a smurf was put in a blender and smeared all over the car. Or the walls of some tenement building in Mexico that's aiming for that "fresh" look, but utterly failing.

Phoenix Yellow looks like some unidentified excrement in a baby's diaper.

[e46Freako]

Originally posted by DaveLSB///M3
because it makes me want to throw a few cinderblocks at it mainly toward the driver side because thats the person who was dumb enough to buy it in most cases

Your comments are about as worthless as your Paris Hilton thread.Try contributing something intelligent to the conversation my freind.
Anyway I find the lines of the new 5er to be a miniture replica of the 7 which I also love and with the right set of wheels and tint I think this car could be a real head turner !

[SilverBeam]

I like it.

[SilverBeam]

Originally posted by NickBooras
I can't stand the front end, mainly the headlights and the kidney grills. Other than that, I don't think it's to bad. I hate how big and heavy they're making all the new generation bimmers, though. I hear the next 3 series is supposed to be as big as the e39. :mad:

its lighter than the E39 and if you have ever sat in the back of both, you would be very grateful for the extra room. Why don't you look into things before you say comments like that? The 545 has 35 more hp, more leg room, a larger engine, and STILL weighs less than the E39. We should be applauding that fact.

[dysphunxion]

Just what are you smoking dogass? Although I do have to agree with you about the yellow, it is reminiscent of "mustard stage" baby poo under certain lighting.


Back to topic, the new 5er looks like crap, I'm sure it drives great like a new BMW should, but I won't touch one. The outside doesn't do anything for me and the interior is just ugly.

:wave: Hey BMW! I'm your target buyer, mid 20s, has money to buy new cars every year, was a walking hard on for BMW, but you've uglied me away with the latest generation. Good job.

[sachin528]

The Front is okay. not badass, just okay.
there ass needs help. maybe Bangle needs some good porn, so he can see what a nice ass looks like???:az: :dunno

[DrEvil]

Originally posted by e46Freako
I find the lines of the new 5er to be a miniture replica of the 7 which I also love and with the right set of wheels and tint I think this car could be a real head turner !

[DaveLSB///M3]

Originally posted by e46Freako
Your comments are about as worthless as your Paris Hilton thread.Try contributing something intelligent to the conversation my freind.
Anyway I find the lines of the new 5er to be a miniture replica of the 7 which I also love and with the right set of wheels and tint I think this car could be a real head turner !

Look who's talking, MR. "rims and tints can make a car." You are about as worthless as the 15 year old cum rag laying under my bed that I havent washed since I first hit puberty and jerked off into day and night.

[hsmith]

I love the new 5er but then again i love every BMW. It is the best car company in the world IMO.

[Hellrot]

Compared to the E39, it looks less substantial, less sporty, less hunkered down. It has no sensuous lines, it's angular and cold. The E39 looks like it's a living thing, the new 5 looks like a Camry. It just looks flimsy.

[NickBooras]

Originally posted by SilverBeam
its lighter than the E39 and if you have ever sat in the back of both, you would be very grateful for the extra room. Why don't you look into things before you say comments like that? The 545 has 35 more hp, more leg room, a larger engine, and STILL weighs less than the E39. We should be applauding that fact.

You may be right, I don't know, but I didn't specify the 5er. I still don't like the way they're getting bigger, though. I'd also bet that the next 3 series will weigh more, but who knows. Either way you look at it, it's still an ugly car compared to the e39.

[RWE TexM3]

eh I think people just hate change...but it had to happen if they want to be in business

[tEckniks]

cuz its just ugly

[SilverBeam]

Originally posted by NickBooras
You may be right, I don't know, but I didn't specify the 5er. I still don't like the way they're getting bigger, though. I'd also bet that the next 3 series will weigh more, but who knows. Either way you look at it, it's still an ugly car compared to the e39.

I bet it will be lighter. BMW is using lighter materials. In the past models, the weight has gotten to be more in most models, but the increases have been less.

[auto_pilot]

Originally posted by SilverBeam
its lighter than the E39 and if you have ever sat in the back of both, you would be very grateful for the extra room. Why don't you look into things before you say comments like that? The 545 has 35 more hp, more leg room, a larger engine, and STILL weighs less than the E39. We should be applauding that fact.

I agree w/all of your points above, and I believe those are all major improvements to the car...however I think the dislike for the new 5'er is based on asthetics. I often find myself looking at the new 5'er and creating in my mind different ways they could've styled the front face of the car, and the rear deck. In fact I've seen some photoshop renderings of different designs, and like most of them.

I just think BMW could of come up w/something better...Look at Audi and Benzo...they've have some of the best looking cars on the road IMO. And so I'm a bit disappointed by the styling direction BMW is taking...My $.02

[LinearX]

Originally posted by DaveLSB///M3
Look who's talking, MR. "rims and tints can make a car." You are about as worthless as the 15 year old cum rag laying under my bed that I havent washed since I first hit puberty and jerked off into day and night.

Aww, that's no way to talk about your little brother.

[Doglass]

Originally posted by LinearX
Aww, that's no way to talk about your little brother.
WTF, :biglaughb. He also indirectly states he's 30 and still lives with his parents.

[dave is cool]

It looks good.

[LateApex]

Near as I can tell, there's a bunch of people who consider themselves "enthusiasts" passing judgement on a car they've never driven before. Its sad to me, really.

You'll find much more even handed reviews from people that have actually sat behind the wheel and prodded a few pedals.


-Apex

[auto_pilot]

LateApex: sounds like you've driven it...would you buy it on driving impression alone?

[NowThat'sRaw]

Originally posted by LateApex
Near as I can tell, there's a bunch of people who consider themselves "enthusiasts" passing judgement on a car they've never driven before. Its sad to me, really.

You'll find much more even handed reviews from people that have actually sat behind the wheel and prodded a few pedals.


-Apex

The problem is that BMW is no longer the only manufacturer making vehicles aimed at enthusiasts. The cars have to do more than just drive well. Unlike in decades past, if the new BMWs look ugly, we have other options to turn to that look good and are still enjoyable driving machines. This is all a result of BMW's past success, of course, but like many modern consumers I have no brand loyalty. This is not the Ford v. Chevy crowd. I'm not yet wealthy enough to be able buy something with which I am anything less than 100% satisfied.

[Mfreak]

I would like to know how many of the people here have actually sat in the car, or taken it out for a drive. Better yet, go out and drive the new five back to back with it's competition and see what drives the best. Until you have done that you really don't have enough information to make any kind of condemning statement about the car other than looks. I don't mean to get snotty about it but I am sick of people talking about how ugly the new cars are or how they like the older models. If you feel so strongly about it... don't buy it. If you like the Mercedes design that is twenty years old then make the switch and stop bitching about it.

[dave is cool]

The Mercedes design may be 20 years old, but it sure does look damn good.

[auto_pilot]

Mfreak: your points are well taken...but I think if I'm gonna spend the kind of money BMW is asking for...then I want the whole deal...performance...looks...And you're right banging on bangle's designs is easy to do...but not buying it speaks volumes...but the thread starter asked why I hate the 5'er so much...and I obliged him or her...

[SeattleE30///M3]

Not only is it butt ugly, its overpriced... went by the dealer the other day, saw a 525i with a sticker price of 52K

[ClintonM3]

I love the new 5, I get to see it everyday at work, I would not call it a timeless design, but I would not call it over done either. The craftsmanship is great, not sure about long term durability though.

[e46Freako]

Originally posted by DaveLSB///M3
Look who's talking, MR. "rims and tints can make a car." You are about as worthless as the 15 year old cum rag laying under my bed that I havent washed since I first hit puberty and jerked off into day and night.

Like I said another worthless comment coming from a even more worthless person just look at your "mods" list which consists of the items listed below I would say you should not be talking...I mean your only mod is the coilover suspension system ,WOW you need to think before you open your mouth bc I have been tuning BMWs before you had any clue what a coilover suspension system was !!

- Euro 19" Factories Wrapped in Pilot Sports/Xenons/Black M-Cloth w/ Leather.
-FK Automotive Coilover Suspension System.

[LateApex]

Originally posted by auto_pilot
LateApex: sounds like you've driven it...would you buy it on driving impression alone?

auto_pilot, the E60 is a truly marvelous driving car. I drove a 530i with sport/premium package (it had the active steer and roll control) and honestly, I thought it handled better than my E36 M3.

Turn-in is near instant, steering razor sharp, the car had almost no body roll, really, really great amounts of grip, and manages to ride as smoothly as the E39 did. The variable nature of the steering was odd at first, but I think an owner can get used to it very quickly. I was blown away.

So, yes. I would have bought it on driving impressions alone. However, BMW has priced the 5 so high, I don't think I'll be a customer this time around. 50k for a 530i is a little too much IMO. For that amount, I want a V8 with at least 280 hp. Superb car, YES, 50k superb.. not really.


-Apex

[LateApex]

Originally posted by Mfreak
I would like to know how many of the people here have actually sat in the car, or taken it out for a drive.

Well said. Thank you.


-Apex

[EUPHORIA]

The E60, as a car on its own, doesn't look too bad, but as a BMW, especially a 5 series BMW, it looks awkward. Like few people said, it fails to even come close to the nice design of the E39. If the E60 was not a BMW, I'd say, "yeah it's a nice Japanese car", but it's a big disappointment as a BMW. The kidney grills, the front overall give a Japanese car's look, or a pontiac. The rear is ok. The inside, I don't even want to go there, is cheaply done w/ bunch of ugly knobs and buttons and ugly door handles.
After seeing the E39, especially a nice fixed up one, the E60 looks terrible.

[Brashland]

I see a lot of people mis-posting on this thread.

why does everyone hate the new 5 series?

The OVERWHELMING answer is that they find it ugly. Cars should get a little bit better with each revision, little bit lighter, etc. I'm glad the new 5 drives so well, it'll have to because most people will not buy the car for it's looks. I'll echo what so many others have said: looks like the bastard child of a pontiac/lexus/toyota/X , and throw in a little Dame Edna eyes and you get the new 5. Maybe not *puke* ugly but I definitely get the runs when looking at it.

The last 5 was a timeless design, I don't see that same classic aesthetic design in this model.

[dave is cool]

Why the hell would people want the same, boring ass design? The E39 was nice, yes, but the E60 is different, and isn't that what most people want?