APEX ARC-8 Wheel Group Buy - Extended to Feb. 28th (17x9, 18x8.5, 18x9, 18x9.5, 18x10

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

APEX ARC-8 Wheel Group Buy

GROUP BUY IS NOW CLOSED!
Although the Group Buy is now closed, most wheels are in stock and ready to ship at our normally competitive price!

To Purchase wheels CLICK HERE (https://www.apexraceparts.com/Wheels_c_11.html)

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Driving season is fast approaching, and as usual APEX hosts multiple Group Buys in the beginning of the year
This Group Buy is listed on multiple forums: E46 Fanatics, M3Forums, Bimmerforums, E90Post, M3Post, ZPost...
The more members that sign up, the lower the price will be for everyone

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Group Buy Price:

There is no minimum member requirement to receive the 1st tier discount!
Discounts increase as additional members sign up for each size
Group Buy sets can be purchased as any combination of 4 wheels
Discounts are now a simple total of all members for 18" wheels, and separately for 17" wheels
Previously the discounts were calculated on members for each individual size
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18" Group Buy Discount
1 -14 Buyers = $100 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
15-24 Buyers = $150 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
25-30 Buyers = $175 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
31 + Buyers = $200 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*

17" Group Buy Discount
_1 - 9 Buyers = $50 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
10-14 Buyers = $70 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*
15 + Buyers = $100 OFF SET & FREE Shipping*


See Group Buy and Shipping* details below...

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9
21. Adam R. 8.5/9.5
22. Mark W. 9.5/9.5
23. Craig B. 9.5/10
24. Adam A. 9.5/10
25. Gary F. 10/10
26. Wesley B. 9/10
27. Andrew M. 9.5/10
28. Eric H. 9.5/10
29. Ivan O. 8.5/8.5
30. Kevin D. 9/10
31. Joshua B. 8.5/9.5
32. George B. 10/10
33. Shahrad H. 9.5/9.5
34. Eric A. 9.5/9.5
35. Jonathan G. 9.5
36. Jason D. 8.5/8.5
37. Tyler D. 9.5/9.5
38. Ronnie H. 9/10
39. Kevin P. 9.5/9.5
40. Luc D. 8.5/9.5
41. Victor E. 9/10
42. William G. 10/10
43. Robert D. 9/9

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
4. Michael O.
5. Illan L.
6. Carlos R.


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Specifications:

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Wheel Details:

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Manufacturing process:
All APEX wheels are flow-formed resulting in a light weight, track and street worthy wheel
Flow-forming significantly reduces weight in the barrel by rolling the barrel out into it's final shape using large wheels/disks applying high pressure
This step is the same step that monoblock forged wheels go through to shape their barrels
By doing this, the flow-formed wheel's barrel has the same density and strength as a traditional forged wheel
This significantly reduces rotational mass at the furthest point from the center, which is the most important weight savings area on a wheel.

Strength:
These wheels are fully JWL/VIA certified. Strength testing was done by the VIA in Japan
Don't be fooled by competitors that claim to be certified, but cannot provide registration numbers
There are vendors on this forum selling wheels that are not certified, yet they claim they are. Scary stuff!
CLICK HERE (http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b388/paintpro21/apexjwltests.jpg) to see all VIA registration numbers

Misc.
Comes with carbon-look APEX center caps
Accepts OEM Roundel center caps
Does not come with valve stems
Installs using your factory lugs or a stud conversion
Accepts all wheel spacers including 5mm while still remaining hub-centric
TPMS compatible

Group Buy Details:

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Free Shipping*
Free Shipping is available to members in the 48 mainland states
Alaska, Hawaii, and International members will receive a $75 credit off the actual cost of shipping
non-mainland/international members: please contact us prior to ordering for a shipping quote

Payment and Sign Up:
This Group Buy is now closed!
The last day to sign-up/pay was February 28th 2011. NO late entries, this is a limited time Discount
Payment is made in full at the time of check-out
Wheels will arrive approx 30-45 days after the Group Buy close date. ETA updates will be provided

Discount Tiers
The price you pay at sign up is based on how many members are currently signed up for either 18" or 17" wheels
Normally enough members are already signed up on the unofficial name list, that pricing can be started above the first tier.
The 18" Group buy is starting payment on tier #2, while the 17" Group Buy is starting payment on tier #1
At the close of the Group Buy, everyone's order/payment will be adjusted accordingly if a higher discount tier is reached

Refunds
There are NO refunds on Group Buy orders. Group Buys are special order, which is why payment is taken in advance
Only replacement of defective, or mis-shipped products are available
Your are free to sell your place in line after the close date of the Group Buy

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[///M3Augy]

What does shipping normally cost for these wheels? I am going to need an extra set of wheels for sure, I just want to know if the free shipping now is really worth it.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

What does shipping normally cost for these wheels? I am going to need an extra set of wheels for sure, I just want to know if the free shipping now is really worth it.

Our site does shipping quotes. Just add the regular priced wheels to your cart, and then enter your zip code on the right hand "quick cart". for East coast customers its generally around $80-90.

Adding a member:

Unofficial Member List
1. Jrotax101 - square 17x9 - hyperblack - M3forums
2. EYEHAVEYOU - square 18x9.5 - hyper silver - M3forums
3. ariddler - square 18x9.5 - hyperblack - Zpost
4. Will V - square 17x9 - Satin Black - BF.C

[z3papa]

OK guys, I need people to start snapping the 17x9's up so we at least get to 2nd tier pricing since I may jump on this before times expires. Let's get to it.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

OK guys, I need people to start snapping the 17x9's up so we at least get to 2nd tier pricing since I may jump on this before times expires. Let's get to it.

The list is "unofficial", you're not obligated to buy. Add your name to the list with the size/finish you would like if you consider yourself serious. There is no point in waiting to add your name, because it cause a vicious cycle of others waiting to see more names. It's much better to see how many people join the list, before we open things up for payment.

[paul9325]

Wish you guys had 17's in lower offsets.

[braindamage]

What sizes are the wheels on those E36 pictures?

[96LTWM3]

id like to sign up for a set
96LTWM3 - 18x9.5 ET 35 SQUARE - HYPER SILVER

[scooper]

When's the GB for the 17 x 8.5 size? Mar/Apr? Thanks Eddy.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Unofficial Member List
1. Jrotax101 - square 17x9 - hyperblack - M3forums
2. EYEHAVEYOU - square 18x10 - hyper silver - M3forums
3. ariddler - square 18x9.5 - hyperblack - Zpost
4. Will V - square 17x9 - Satin Black - BF.C
5. F360C- 18X9.5F/18x10R - Satin Black - Zpost
6. alvinli217 - 18x9/18x10 - Hyper Black - Zpost
7. mousitch- 18X9.0F/18x10R - Satin Black - Zpost
8. Bammered- 18X9.5F/18x10R - Satin Black - Zpost
9. scottyp - square 18x9.5 - hyperblack - M3forum
10. yabmane - 18x8.5/18x10 Hyper Black - M3 Forum
11. 96LTWM3 - 18x9.5/18x9.5 - Hyper Silver - BF.C


What sizes are the wheels on those E36 pictures?

There is a mix of sizes. The race cars are running 18x10's or 18x9's square. The street cars are running 18x8.5" front and 18x9.5" rear or 18x9.5" square but with fender mods. The last one is running 17x9's which is a much cleaner fit.

[faze]

When's the GB for the 17 x 8.5 size? Mar/Apr? Thanks Eddy.

Same question. I was thinking of getting LTW5s, but these wheels look hot. What's the story on the 17x8.5s?

[SilverAP1]

Bump for a great vendor.

Eddy went above and beyond to help me with my situation.

Guys/Gals, not only will you be getting a set or sets of nice looking/strong wheels at a great price but you will also be receiving great services from Eddy.

:buttrock:buttrock:buttrock

[Hiyaboa]

I just received my wheels from the last group buy and I am very pleased! Everyone talks about these being strong track wheels but let me add the finish on these wheels is VERY nice. Eddy was great to deal with and the wheels were packaged properly so they arrived in perfect condition.

[2000mkoop]

Love these wheels!

So discounts are $75-$175 for Level 2-4, is that per wheel or per set(4) ?

[NakNak]

I will take a free set for having taken one of those pictures :devillook.

Bump for a great seller. If I didn't have some much other expenses for my track heap right now I would definetly get a set.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

I will take a free set for having taken one of those pictures :devillook.

Bump for a great seller. If I didn't have some much other expenses for my track heap right now I would definetly get a set.

You're photos are amazing as usual.

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We're going to make a major modification to this Group Buy by lowering the set requirement to reach higher level discounts!

The chart above would have worked if we could get the message out better on the other forums. Because we're unwilling to spam random sections of the forums to gain attention, it looks like a lot of people who requested this group buy be made will actually miss this opportunity.

More updates to come

[Geoff.T]

Any sort of discount on a 18x10.5 square setup?

[Gsharp]

Add me to the list please. 18x9.5 et35 square in Hypersilver.

[MCoupeVet]

My son bought those in the first group buy for his M3. Good stuff.

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[ninekrpm]

Please add me for a set of Hyper-Blacks 18x9.5 ET35 for E46 M3.

[Z3speed4me]

I will be keeping my eye on this.... have been interested in these for a while, this might make me bite!

[Z3racer701]

Same question. I was thinking of getting LTW5s, but these wheels look hot. What's the story on the 17x8.5s?

I've got a set of 255/40-17's waiting for a set of rims, and class rules limit me to 17x8.5's....

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Same question. I was thinking of getting LTW5s, but these wheels look hot. What's the story on the 17x8.5s?


I've got a set of 255/40-17's waiting for a set of rims, and class rules limit me to 17x8.5's....

17x8.5's are coming over in very limited quantities in this next container, and it would not be enough to meet demand. Because the wheels are not finished production as of today, I can't be certain how many of each finish will be loaded into the container leaving in 1-2 weeks.

The 17x8.5's will be available for a pre-order discount on their own once we know exactly how many units are in the container and on their way here. We'll limit purchases to exactly how many will be arriving. That will be posted before the end of the month. It will be first come first serve. More will be arriving (not discount) in April.

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Major Group Buy update!


The close date of the Group Buy has been extended to Feb 28th
The discount structure has been completely changed
Far fewer members are required to receive high tier discounts
A new $200 tier has been added
Now it's just a matter of how many members purchase 18" wheels, and how many purchase 17" wheels


The Group Buys is now officially open for payment!

Click here to join the 18" Group Buy and see all the details: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-Early-Bird-18-Group-Buy_p_126.html

Click here to join the 17x9" Group Buy and see all the details: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-17x9-Group-Buy_p_110.html

[Tipsy]

any chance for an "unfinished" option? or is that what hyper silver is

[2000mkoop]

Awesome! You guys are making it tough for me to say no haha :devillook

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

any chance for an "unfinished" option? or is that what hyper silver is

Could you explain what you mean by unfinished?

All the wheels are painted. None of them are just clear over bare metal.

[BraveUlysses]

I know it probably couldn't happen, but man I wish you offered a low offset, concave, 17x10 or 17x10.5 version of these wheels.

[Z3speed4me]

Agreed on the wide 17's that would be sweet for the coupe guys... I may snag some 18's though and just grab some tires later after the car is back in business again. Gotta work out funds still :(

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.

[Tipsy]

Could you explain what you mean by unfinished?

All the wheels are painted. None of them are just clear over bare metal.
unpainted so it be easier to change to a different color/type of finish

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

unpainted so it be easier to change to a different color/type of finish

We can't/don't offer unpainted wheels. The easiest finish to repaint is satin black.

[Sevenx]

Is there any chance this includes 4x100's for us E30 drivers?

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Is there any chance this includes 4x100's for us E30 drivers?

Sorry. 4 lug wheels are not part of the Group Buy as there is currently very limited supply of that wheel.

[336motorsports]

Whats the price for a set of 18x9.5 et35 in silver? Im gonna have to put some thought into this.

Thanks alot!

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Whats the price for a set of 18x9.5 et35 in silver? Im gonna have to put some thought into this.

Thanks alot!

The Group Buy check-out page with all the details is here: http://www.apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-Early-Bird-18-Group-Buy_p_126.html

Normally the 18x9.5's are $1256 a set plus shipping.

The current Group Buy price is: $150 off the above price plus FREE shipping*, or $1106 shipped*.

The discount may increase if more members sign up.

[2000mkoop]

.

[2000mkoop]

how close is it to the next tier discount for 18s?


do the 9.5s and 10s have the same amount of face concavity?

[336motorsports]

how close to the next tier discount for 18s?

This...

Can you put me on the unofficial list? Im about 50/50 as to weather not Im gonna get them!

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

how close is it to the next tier discount for 18s?


do the 9.5s and 10s have the same amount of face concavity?

we only have 2 sign ups as of today for the 18" group buy (some payments will be coming in later tonight so it will go up). Mistakenly members are waiting for others to sign up, which is not the strategy to get good discounts on a group buy. This is the norm, and most people sign up last minute as they think there is a savings in waiting.

The wheels are already priced aggressively at their retail price. They aren't, and never will be available through another source that would discount them. To help out members before the driving season starts, we host group buys. During this period you can get these wheels cheaper then at any other time. Even the tier 1 discount is a huge savings over any other time of year.

Feb 28th is the last day to sign up. After that you cant' even get a $10 discount, let alone free shipping + $150 off. Just an FYI, even though only 2 have paid, the sign up price is at the tier 2 level because of how many people put their name on the list. We did this as a courtesy.

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Yes the 9.5" and 10" wheels have the same spoke concavity.

[elliott95]

Edit: Question was answered in a previous post.

[Car54]

Unofficially sign me up for 18x9.5/18x10.5 et27 in Hyperblack if that's allowable.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Unofficially sign me up for 18x9.5/18x10.5 et27 in Hyperblack if that's allowable.

There is no list to join. We are in the payment stage of this Group Buy. The only official participants are those that make payment by the 28th of February. The names on the unofficial were just a measure of interest before we reached the payment stage.

To join simply check out through here: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-Early-Bird-18-Group-Buy_p_126.html


Updated member list:

Official 18" PAID Member List:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10

Official 17x9" PAID Member List:
1. Minho P. (4)

[Car54]

There is no list to join. We are in the payment stage of this Group Buy. The only official participants are those that make payment by the 28th of February. The names on the unofficial were just a measure of interest before we reached the payment stage.

To join simply check out through here: https://apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-Early-Bird-18-Group-Buy_p_126.html

Updated member list:

Official 18" PAID Member List:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10

Official 17x9" PAID Member List:
1. Minho P. (4)

Ok.

Can I do the 10.5 swap?

[2000mkoop]

mmmmm 10.5 :drool:

[336motorsports]

So right now a set of 17x9's are $986 shipped correct? I think Id rather have them, than the 18's.

Nobody wants 17's?

Come on guys, lets get the price down a bit more. :buttrock

[cmzwirner]

Im in for e36 m3 fitment 17x9 hyper black? I think that's the right color. The one with the black body and silver face..

COME ON 336! Join the 17 group!

[336motorsports]

Im in for e36 m3 fitment 17x9 hyper black? I think that's the right color. The one with the black body and silver face..

COME ON 336! Join the 17 group!

Im very tempted. We need MORE to join!

[cmzwirner]

The more that join now, the faster the growth will be. Please do it. these wheels are amazing looking.

[336motorsports]

The more that join now, the faster the growth will be. Please do it. these wheels are amazing looking.

True...

15+ buyers and we get $100 off! :buttrock

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

The 17x9's are already 50 off + free shipping*. If we get to 15 then the discount is even better. Signing up early makes a huge difference. This is probably the 9th large group buy I've hosted. The only ones that reach the 3rd+ tier is the ones were the majority members signed up in the first week. Doing this gave confidence to the inactive forum members (members who join the Group buy but don't post in the thread). When the people from day one say they're interested, but they hold off until the end to actually join, then those who check in the on groupbuy see poor progress. Then on the last day 30-40% of the members sign up. It means the 90% of the time the Group Buy looked bad, and then when it looks good, it's too late for others to sign up.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10


Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.

[336motorsports]

The 17x9's are already 50 off + free shipping*. If we get to 15 then the discount is even better. Signing up early makes a huge difference. This is probably the 9th large group buy I've hosted. The only ones that reach the 3rd+ tier is the ones were the majority members signed up in the first week. Doing this gave confidence to the inactive forum members (members who join the Group buy but don't post in the thread). When the people from day one say they're interested, but they hold off until the end to actually join, then those who check in the on groupbuy see poor progress. Then on the last day 30-40% of the members sign up. It means the 90% of the time the Group Buy looked bad, and then when it looks good, it's too late for others to sign up.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10


Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.


Thats good to know.

Im still unsure as to what Im gonna do, I may get a set ( I love them to death) or I may buy a cheap set of 17x9's from another source.

Ill be putting some thought into it.

[cmzwirner]

Again. Im in for:

Cmzwirner - 17x9 square - Hyper black

Feel free to add me to the unofficial list. When are payments due?

[99GREENM3]

Thats good to know.

Im still unsure as to what Im gonna do, I may get a set ( I love them to death) or I may buy a cheap set of 17x9's from another source.

Ill be putting some thought into it.



Just get them :)

[336motorsports]

Just get them :)

Very nice!

What specs?

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Again. Im in for:

Cmzwirner - 17x9 square - Hyper black

Feel free to add me to the unofficial list. When are payments due?

There is no list to add you to anymore. Payments are already being collected now. Members who are not reading the first post or visiting our site, assume that there is still a sign up list, which is not the case.

The list was created before the Group Buy opened. It was to gauge interest and determine the discount structure. The directions in the first post and our our site state that you simply need to check out through our e-commerce site to officially join.

Follow this link here to complete your Group Buy entry: http://www.apexraceparts.com/ARC-8-17x9-Group-Buy_p_110.html

[Car54]

I'm 90% sure to be buying 18" set...just need to cover some tire options.

Eddy, not saying this for you...for others who are reading. No matter what, doesn't sound like we'll make 3rd tier on 18".

[2000mkoop]

I'm 90% sure to be buying 18" set...just need to cover some tire options.

Eddy, not saying this for you...for others who are reading. No matter what, doesn't sound like we'll make 3rd tier on 18".


You going for the 9.5/10 setup as well? I'm curious what you're doing for tires? I've been checking out some different options too

[Car54]

I'm torn between Conti ExtremeContact DW and Yoko AD08. The tires are really are pretty different, but not really at the same time. Both are pretty aggressive, the Yoko is almost the ultimate street tire, and the Conti is a good blend of everything for a summer tire. This is all from reading reviews and not first hand experiences.

Sizes - 255/35F and 285/30R. Wheels either 9.5/10 or 9.5/10.5.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

A member just picked up two sets.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9

[elliott95]

By chance will this sale go on for any longer past the 28th?

I will be buying a set for sure and it would be a shame for me to spend another $200 on the same set in a week or two....

Thanks,
Elliott

[336motorsports]

By chance will this sale go on for any longer past the 28th?

I will be buying a set for sure and it would be a shame for me to spend another $200 on the same set in a week or two....

Thanks,
Elliott

Im curious as well.

Im definitely gonna buy a set of 17x9 wheels, and its a toss up between these and the ltw5's.

I sent you a pm my friend. Please get back to me. Thanks

[Car54]

By chance will this sale go on for any longer past the 28th?

I will be buying a set for sure and it would be a shame for me to spend another $200 on the same set in a week or two....

Thanks,
Elliott

You won't actually get the wheels until sometime in late March or early April. Sounds like it works for your time frame.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

The last day to officially sign up is the 28th. The discount is provided in exchange for the wait. We have some of these wheels in stock, and those who buy wheels that ship immediately pay the regular retail rate. We can't offer the Group Buy discount to members who pay later as it's not fair to those who paid on time.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

We're really moving along. We'll most likely reach tier 3 before the end of the Group Buy for the 18" wheels.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.

[336motorsports]

Eddy, Ive got a question for you.

Im looking into buying a set of wheels with performance being the main goal, styling is important though.

I love the 18's but how much do you think the 18 inch wheels will hurt my performance, over running a 17 inch wheel on an e36 m3?

Acceleration is my main concern. School me! Thanks!

[Car54]

Depends on the weight of your 17" wheels. Compare the wheels and tire weights and try to figure out which weighs more. Keep in mind that the further from the hub the bigger the weight impact.

[2000mkoop]

Eddy, Ive got a question for you.

Im looking into buying a set of wheels with performance being the main goal, styling is important though.

I love the 18's but how much do you think the 18 inch wheels will hurt my performance, over running a 17 inch wheel on an e36 m3?

Acceleration is my main concern. School me! Thanks!

I'm pretty impressed with the ARC-8 weights. My stock wheels are 17x7.5/9 and weigh 21/24 lbs.

Going up to the 18x9.5/10, they're only 18.8/19.9 lbs. Pretty crazy considering the diameter/width increase, and low cost. Well done, Apex :redspot

(edit: With tires, still impressive compared to stock: less than 1 lb increase for each front wheel/tire, and a 2 lb decrease for each rear wheel/tire)

[336motorsports]

Depends on the weight of your 17" wheels. Compare the wheels and tire weights and try to figure out which weighs more. Keep in mind that the further from the hub the bigger the weight impact.

Well, I was more worried about the diameter of the wheel hampering the acceleration a bit.

If I get 18's, its gonna be these.

If I get 17's, it will either be these, SSR comps, Kosei's, or something similar.

Hell, Im confused as to weather I should get a 17 inch arc-8, or a 18 inch arc-8, simply because Im worried about straight line performance.

I plan on street racing. :devillook

lol jk

But what do you think? Weights being out of the question, an 18 inch wheel, and a 17 inch wheel in the exact same weight. Do you think the 18 inch wheel will slow me down? Thanks guys...

[Car54]

Typically the answer is yes, a taller rim and shorter tire will hurt acceleration. Specifically the launch due to less sidewall flex in a shorter sidewall.

I'd say, don't go up to 18" unless you need a wheel wider than 9".

A 285/30/18 weighs the same as a 255/40/17...let's say 27lbs. If the 17" rim is 16lbs and the 18 is 20lbs, look at how much further the 27lb tire is from the hub, not to mention the increase in wheel weight. This hampers acceleration... but mostly during low speed, as you speed increases the difference diminishes. The 18" will usually "feel" slower or sluggish. If you did REAL motorsports, you could get cornering gains that outweigh your acceleration reduction using 18".

[2000mkoop]

I plan on street racing. :devillooklol jk.


If you did REAL motorsports...



Everybody knows street racing is the only real motorsport that matters :stickoutt


ask any racer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdmu2M7qFo

[336motorsports]

Everybody knows street racing is the only real motorsport that matters :stickoutt


ask any racer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkdmu2M7qFo

That was a good laugh! :buttrock


Typically the answer is yes, a taller rim and shorter tire will hurt acceleration. Specifically the launch due to less sidewall flex in a shorter sidewall.

I'd say, don't go up to 18" unless you need a wheel wider than 9".

A 285/30/18 weighs the same as a 255/40/17...let's say 27lbs. If the 17" rim is 16lbs and the 18 is 20lbs, look at how much further the 27lb tire is from the hub, not to mention the increase in wheel weight. This hampers acceleration... but mostly during low speed, as you speed increases the difference diminishes. The 18" will usually "feel" slower or sluggish. If you did REAL motorsports, you could get cornering gains that outweigh your acceleration reduction using 18".

Good info, I may do a few track days, and maybe some auto crossing, but mainly this car is gonna be a show car for my company that Im hoping to get started this year.

It sounds to me like I need to go with a 17 inch wheel and tire package.

Thanks guys!

[WongWay]

Not to crap on the GB or anything:

I have a set of Hyper Silver 18X9.5's brand new in the box available for $1000 shipped. I sold off my M3 project and will not be able to use them. Just think... you can have your wheels next week.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9

Group Buy ends Monday. 5 away from the third tier. 11 away from from the 4th tier. Chance we might make it to $200 off? Highly likely as most members sign up last minute.

If you guys want to save the extra money consider putting a link to the Group Buy in your signature until it closes. (closes at the end of this coming Monday). Or share it on facebook.

[Doesnt Matter]

Does anyone know the wheel specs on the second white e36 on the first page?

[99GREENM3]

Does anyone know the wheel specs on the second white e36 on the first page?


18x8.5 and 18x9.5 225\40 and 245\35

Same as mine, my pics suck and I am not lowered.

[Doesnt Matter]

Thanks a lot man and your car looks awesome.

[Car54]

My order is going in very soon!

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

updated list. Tomorrow is the last day!

We've made it to tier 3! ($175 OFF + Free shipping) can we make it to tier 4 before the end of tomorrow?

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9
21. Adam R. 8.5/9.5
22. Mark W. 9.5/9.5
23. Craig B. 9.5/10
24. Adam A. 9.5/10
25. Gary F. 10/10
26. Wesley B. 9/10

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
4. Michael O.
5. Illan L.

[2000mkoop]

Just put my order in!

Tier 4 here we come :redspot

[iorndorff]

Put my order in last night. Hope we make tier 4.

[Spec3HOR]

Just wondering, is there anyway a person could have these by March 25th if they ordered today? (the group buy ends today). I have a NASA-MA VIR weekend on the 26th/27th and the set of wheels I was supposed to buy fell through so im hoping not to have to throw away my still good tires on my current rims just to throw on some newer hoosiers.

[Car54]

Just FYI...I don't think you HAVE to go with the group buy. I believe he said he has wheels in stock.

Hope to get another one on the group buy!

[MrFunkengruven]

Hope to get another one on the group buy!

+1 for that. I gotta attend to some other things on my E36 before I purchase a 17" x 9" square setup... Too bad today is the last day :( I guess I've been slacking a bit

[Car54]

@ 34 right now!

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

You guys pulled through at the last minute. We've reached the 4th tier with $200 OFF + Free Shipping!

Keep the sign ups coming as this Group Buy closes at 12PM Pacific time, with NO late sign ups. The Group Buy page will be locked.

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9
21. Adam R. 8.5/9.5
22. Mark W. 9.5/9.5
23. Craig B. 9.5/10
24. Adam A. 9.5/10
25. Gary F. 10/10
26. Wesley B. 9/10
27. Andrew M. 9.5/10
28. Eric H. 9.5/10
29. Ivan O. 8.5/8.5
30. Kevin D. 9/10
31. Joshua B. 8.5/9.5
32. George B. 10/10
33. Shahrad H. 9.5/9.5
34. Eric A. 9.5/9.5

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
4. Michael O.
5. Illan L.
6. Carlos R.

[Car54]

Does this many impact delivery schedule?

[2000mkoop]

How about a Tier 5 discount: $225 off :devillook

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Does this many impact delivery schedule?

No. Delivery will not be impacted, as the wheels are already finished with production. The wait is only for the container to arrive at our door. Nothing else has an impact in timing.


How about a Tier 5 discount: $225 off

Sorry, no tier 5. But this is the deepest discount we've ever given, along with one of the fastest turn around times from the close date.

So that's a good thing!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Official PAID 18" member list:
1. Davis K. 9.5/9.5
2. Justin N. 8.5/10
3. Charles M. 9/10
4. William G. 10/10
5. Wayne R. 9/10
6. Dale S. 10/10
7. Matt J. 9/9
8. Matt J. 9/9
9. Ivan G. 9.5/10
10. Shafique B. 9.5/9.5
11. Stephen K. 9/9
12. John S. 9/10
13. Thomas S. 10/10
14. Thomas S. 10/10
15. Jason B. 10/10
16. Richard N. 9.5/9.5
17. Jeremy W. 9.5/9.5
18. John B. 9.5/9.5
19. Philip C. 9.5/9.5
20. Melvin D. 9/9
21. Adam R. 8.5/9.5
22. Mark W. 9.5/9.5
23. Craig B. 9.5/10
24. Adam A. 9.5/10
25. Gary F. 10/10
26. Wesley B. 9/10
27. Andrew M. 9.5/10
28. Eric H. 9.5/10
29. Ivan O. 8.5/8.5
30. Kevin D. 9/10
31. Joshua B. 8.5/9.5
32. George B. 10/10
33. Shahrad H. 9.5/9.5
34. Eric A. 9.5/9.5
35. Jonathan G. 9.5
36. Jason D. 8.5/8.5
37. Tyler D. 9.5/9.5
38. Ronnie H. 9/10
39. Kevin P. 9.5/9.5
40. Luc D. 8.5/9.5
41. Victor E. 9/10
42. William G. 10/10
43. Robert D. 9/9

Official PAID 17x9" member list:
1. Minho P.
2. Scott. H.
3. Robert M.
4. Michael O.
5. Illan L.
6. Carlos R.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Group Buy now closed!

[DSrugis]

Why did I have to see this thread one day late...anyone want to back out of their 8.5/9.5 staggered setup???

[z3papa]

Unfortunately, last night after going through the purchase process and into paypal, I ran into the dreaded extended lag error screen and could not ever tell whether the payment went through or not since the confirmation would have been sent to my office email. This morning, I guess I found out it did not go through.

[DSrugis]

two more entrys please... :)

[Car54]

Unfortunately, last night after going through the purchase process and into paypal, I ran into the dreaded extended lag error screen and could not ever tell whether the payment went through or not since the confirmation would have been sent to my office email. This morning, I guess I found out it did not go through.

For 18"s? Hopefully there's a record of your IP address accessing the secure server and failing.

Had that happen to a friend buying HPDE track insurance and he just happened to wad up his car. Guess what...they didn't cover him. Hope this turns out good for you.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Unfortunately, last night after going through the purchase process and into paypal, I ran into the dreaded extended lag error screen and could not ever tell whether the payment went through or not since the confirmation would have been sent to my office email. This morning, I guess I found out it did not go through.

Saw all your order details from last night regarding the checkout error All taken care of.


Why did I have to see this thread one day late...anyone want to back out of their 8.5/9.5 staggered setup???

Sorry, no additional sign ups after the close date. We only have so much stock to offer at this price. It was a limited time offer with only 2-3 weeks to sign up. We have to be strict about sign ups to be fair to those who paid on time, as they will now have to wait.

[DSrugis]

No problem...I understand. I just found a buyer for my wheels today.

Dave

[T.Dot E30]

Dammit, only saw this now. Would have been in for 18s.

[Car54]

Shipping yet? ;)

Can't wait to get the rims.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

Shipping yet? ;)

Can't wait to get the rims.

No shipping yet. We're expecting them in at the end of the month.

[Car54]

As we wait...let's post some of our favorite ARC-8 pics...

Check out these ones on a Z4M Coupe -
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7586190&postcount=41

HAWT!

And this one of Lawlence's coupe:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5383969022_829a56c22f_z.jpg

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

The container is scheduled to arrive in port on March 29th. I doubt we will get the container out of port and at our facility by the April 1st (that friday). I will do what I can, but it's technically 100% up to customs and the port. Most likely it will be April 5th~ when we get them in hand.

[Car54]

That's great feedback. Thanks Eddy.

[V8EATR]

As we wait...let's post some of our favorite ARC-8 pics...

Check out these ones on a Z4M Coupe -
http://www.zpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7586190&postcount=41

HAWT!

And this one of Lawlence's coupe:
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5383969022_829a56c22f_z.jpg

What size/offset are those if you know? I love the concavity. I want those for my car!

[Car54]

PM Lawlence

[V8EATR]

Basically, lower offset = more concavity. correct?

[farzad97m3]

No more group buy pricing.. damn.. I am always late :(

[2000mkoop]

Basically, lower offset = more concavity. correct?

The way I understood it was that the 18x9.5/10/10.5 all have the same level of concavity


What size/offset are those if you know? I love the concavity. I want those for my car!

18x9.5 et35
18x10 et25

[Car54]

Getting excited!!!

Got the tires in.
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/gspot35_photo/FILE0002.jpg

[z3papa]

Where did you source your Yok's from?

[Car54]

the 'Rack, best price I could find.

[faze]

What's the story on the group buy for the 17x8.5s???

[gsolo]

What's the story on the group buy for the 17x8.5s???


the story is summarized in the 1st post

Words, pictures and concepts, they are all there!


:whatmiss

[faze]

the story is summarized in the 1st post

Words, pictures and concepts, they are all there!


:whatmiss

There is no new info there.

[scooper]

there appears to be a GB going on right now...check the apex site.

[2000mkoop]

those Yokohamas look awesome!!!

[z3papa]

those Yokohamas look awesome!!!

I just ordered a set for the incoming wheels although I got them for about $15 less per tire than the Rack is selling them. I ran these last year and have a set of Hankook RS3's on the other set of wheels. Should be interesting testing.

[Car54]

I just ordered a set for the incoming wheels although I got them for about $15 less per tire than the Rack is selling them. I ran these last year and have a set of Hankook RS3's on the other set of wheels. Should be interesting testing.


Care to share? I buy tires too often not to find good deals! ;)

[elliott95]

Any update on shipping for the group buy???

[Car54]

Getting anxious too!

[z3papa]

I received an email indicating my set of 17x9's would ship out today. Very excited as this may mean getting by this weekened.

[MrFunkengruven]

No more group buy pricing.. damn.. I am always late :(

+1

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

I received an email indicating my set of 17x9's would ship out today. Very excited as this may mean getting by this weekened.

17x9's couldn't get out today, UPS came early with a big rig to pick up 12 pallets of out going wheels (3/4's of pre-orders), so we had 3 hours less time to pack. The rest will ship out tomorrow (tuesday). We're staying until Midnight to make sure everything is boxed up and ready.

I apologize for the delay

[scooper]

17x8.5s shipped out today? how many sets are on 12 pallets?

[sennasixty8]

Folks, PaintPro busts his ass for his customers.. midnite oil be burnin' !

[elliott95]

Sweet!!!

Thank you very much this company is great and i will recommend them to all my fellow enthusiast.

Elliott

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

all the remaining domestic and Canadian orders including 17's went out today. I just sent out tracking numbers for all orders. International shipments via USPS go out tomorrow.

[Geoff.T]

all the remaining domestic and Canadian orders including 17's went out today. I just sent out tracking numbers for all orders. International shipments via USPS go out tomorrow.

How long until the 18in wheels get shipped out?

[Car54]

He's saying he sent them.

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

How long until the 18in wheels get shipped out?

Most of the 18's shipped out Monday, some on Tuesday. Tracking numbers were sent out last night

[Low Level]

Did anyone, by chance, fall out on a set of 18x9.5" Hyper Silver's...?

[5upercharged]

The wheels came in today, :stickoutt They are SICK!!! Light and concave. (18x9.5 eta 35) Can't wait to put them on this weekend.

Here are a few pics. :buttrock

[creich53]

The wheels came in today, :stickoutt They are SICK!!! Light and concave. Can't wait to put them on this weekend.

Here are a few pics. :buttrock


what size are they???

[5upercharged]

what size are they???

18x9.5

[cool2seat]

Just wanted to say thanks to paintpro21, Mine came in yesterday and look awesome, should get them on today so I'll get some pics up when I do.

[Car54]

Got mine too! Thanks Eddy! Hope to take them to the store tomorrow for mounting.

[Car54]

MUST INSTALL ON CAR:
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q318/gspot35_photo/FILE0003.jpg

[z3papa]

You are too slow smo. Mine have been on the car since Monday.

[Car54]

I was trying to find time to wax them (inside and out) before putting them on.

[ialevy]

Awesome wheels! Thanks!!!

[jdrbling325IS]

So sad I missed out on this G.B.

[Vaders]

So sad I missed out on this G.B.

Me too....I think an ongoing GB is in order...

I'm ready for my low offset 18x9.5's :buttrock

[Mudflaps]

Anyone got a set of matte black 17's for an e36?

[HK_M3]

I'm looking to get some 17x9's can we open this back up?

[dcvee]

I've pm'd them...no interest on their part whatsoever. Nice wheels....just gotta pay full price for them!!

Also interested in a set of 17x9's. Might go with TRMotorsports instead but the wheel is only 8.5.

Don

[Vaders]

^Oh well, even at full price they are a good deal. Thanks for checking into it.

In the next few months I'll pull the trigger. Just debating between a square setup and a staggered setup.

[HellsBells]

I would be interested as well for 18"

[bignickmetro]

i think there would probably be enough interest for another one. I would imagine at least 20 buyers for 18s. I would buy a set

[Vaders]

Well, I'm definitely down. Let's make this happen in the next few months.

[IcedLemonTea]

I'm looking to get some 17x9's can we open this back up?

:):):):):):):):):):):):)

[Serge P]

Hey! How about another group buy????? I am ready! I am pretty sure that someone else would like to get a set too for discounted price!
It's just not fair to the rest of us closing a group buy....I want a set!!!

[Serge P]

I want 18s staggered for non m e36!!!!!!!!!!!!

[m3j0n]

damn, I would kill for a 17" wheel with a nasty concave for an e36 m3... I love the 18"s that are on mikes e36, but need the advantages of a 17.

[BimmerFreak]

Im down for at least one set of 18x9.5 black

[Vaders]

Okay, since this thread was started on 1/30/2011, are we going to have to wait until January for another group buy?

I'm going to call tomorrow and see if another group buy would be possible in the near future. I don't know if I can wait until January. :)

[ribri02]

Any word on getting a group buy together?

[IcedLemonTea]

In for two sets of 18x10

[paul9325]

Any word on the low offset 17x9/10's? :shifty

[paul9325]

Any word on the low offset 17x9/10's? :shifty

[lvilleluke]

i would be apart of another group buy, need a set of 17x9's

[bmwplanet]

im down for some 18x10.5's

[336motorsports]

I need a set of 18x9.5 squared.

[lvilleluke]

They really need to get a summer group buy going, i would definetly pull the trigger on some 17x9s if they would let us have this group buy.

[ribri02]

So we are sitting at 6 maybe 7 people ready to go for a group buy. Discounts start at 10 people? Apex, chime in?

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

We are looking into hosting another Group Buy. Inventory is the primary concern. Because of what happened in Japan it takes 6-8 months from the date of a new order for it to be fulfilled. So we will only be able to do a Group Buy on a few sizes at a time, in order to guarantee availability. So we may do 2-3 sizes first, and then a month later another 2 sizes, and so on.

We'll never host a Group Buy where we sell something we can't guarantee is complete and on its way with a wait of no more then a month. I've seen people wait up to a year for a Group Buy to run it's course with 6-8 months of waiting after paying.

For our next round of Group Buys, we would be looking at shipping product within a week of the close date.

I'll post more details asap.

[ribri02]

Thanks for the reply, keep us updated!

[benaj]

subscribed, interested in 1-2 sets of 17x9

[lvilleluke]

Hopefully we can have a 17x9 group buy soon!!

[95StreetDoc]

I would definitely be in for some 17's if there was another group buy.

[lvilleluke]

Any updates on the group buy?

[Eddy@ApexRaceParts]

A group buy was just posted now http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=22380847#post22380847

it's for 18x9.5's and 18x10's only. 17's are starting production in a few weeks, so it's too early to start a Group Buy for those. Expect one started in 2-3 weeks for 17x9's and 17x8.5's.