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about6
12-18-2010, 11:00 PM
I have seen some nice looking cars on here! In your opinion who has the nicest E34?

Meeve
12-18-2010, 11:21 PM
Don't know about the "nicest" but I'd sure trade mine for 5mall5nails 700whp beast. Or any B10 or M5 actualy.

offthewall
12-18-2010, 11:24 PM
5mall5nails for HP's.

Kashmirbeige525
12-18-2010, 11:29 PM
That guy with the alpina biturbo. Just love the looks of that alpina bodykit and alpina wheels.

darrenforeal
12-18-2010, 11:32 PM
is Jon's car really at 700rwhp?

Meeve
12-18-2010, 11:34 PM
is Jon's car really at 700rwhp?

Think so. Or he is close. Can't remember where I saw it. Perhaps he will correct me if I'm wrong.

e34Croak
12-18-2010, 11:35 PM
3 come to mind immediately. Not in any specific order..
MacR
Elekta
Cndalpina (Rob)


And of course mine for the mileage category..:shifty jk

darrenforeal
12-18-2010, 11:36 PM
Think so. Or he is close. Can't remember where I saw it. Perhaps he will correct me if I'm wrong.

that's crazy.

EuroPartConnect
12-18-2010, 11:37 PM
PLease post pictures of these said e34's so that everyone can but the car to a name.

dalex44
12-18-2010, 11:45 PM
my favs are

Orvis
scdavid
maxsteele's
vento GT
sam son
BC419

bimmer fean
12-18-2010, 11:58 PM
I think steve92E34 has a nice couple of E34s.

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 12:03 AM
A whole lot of em...a few that come to mind are
Maxsteele
Jon of course
Garey BMWtech1
Weksos

There's alot more here that I wish my car looked like but I'm having a brain fart atm

T444E
12-19-2010, 12:26 AM
porshe/queens/i5401995. Those EvoSport stickers really set it off.
Also the one with E39 headlights, so clean.

NikosX
12-19-2010, 12:42 AM
Orientblue

/thread

nismoracer65789
12-19-2010, 12:56 AM
Think so. Or he is close. Can't remember where I saw it. Perhaps he will correct me if I'm wrong.

I believe he is at 685

My top ones are

1. Jon
2. MacR
3. Any B10

whatever happened to big red? or something like that

Kashmirbeige525
12-19-2010, 12:58 AM
I believe he is at 685

My top ones are

1. Jon
2. MacR
3. Any B10

whatever happened to big red? or something like that

I think you mean redfive.

nismoracer65789
12-19-2010, 01:05 AM
nope it was another boosted 5. He nicknamed his car big red... hang on I'm going to go look

it's e34biturbo he doesn't post here often

coolerow
12-19-2010, 01:22 AM
that british racing green touring with chocolate interior. mmmmmmmmm

strad
12-19-2010, 01:31 AM
The Miller car is pretty nice -- it's done right. Snailsnail (sp lol) appears to have done his right as well. As far as "stock" cars go, I do like the Alpina cars and some of the M5s. M5T's especially.

rotaryboots
12-19-2010, 01:45 AM
Me because its perfect and I own it. Then Cndalpina - rare and also beautiful.

CleanE34
12-19-2010, 01:54 AM
<----

this guys.

scoops
12-19-2010, 01:55 AM
the b10's in a league of its own, redfive wins imo, just due to the sheer history of the car.

bfp9
12-19-2010, 02:46 AM
Lol at the steve car comment. An auto e34 is only so cool. The calypso car is going to be badass however for the time being, it isn't in its best form. I like Boogieboy's the best. Alpine white with ACS wheels and nex coils annnnnd and S52 to top it all off really makes that one my fav.

crazy8
12-19-2010, 02:52 AM
bruinbimmer ftw. Never heard a better sounding exhaust on an m60 powered car.

BruinBimmer
12-19-2010, 03:02 AM
I think crazy8 has the best.... wait a minute...

I like jester's because it's one of the best bang-for-the-buck builds. But above all else, I've always liked redfive's and e34nication's

pack
12-19-2010, 03:17 AM
ive always had a soft spot for E34nication's, Cndalpina's and lord drift's car
i think i see a theme there... they are all black!

attack eagle
12-19-2010, 03:26 AM
five&dime
Gamite.

BruinBimmer
12-19-2010, 03:39 AM
ive always had a soft spot for E34nication's, Cndalpina's and lord drift's car
i think i see a theme there... they are all black!

I don't recall cndalpina's car at the moment, but both e34nication's and lord drift's cars are oxford green... like mine.

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 04:10 AM
nope it was another boosted 5. He nicknamed his car big red... hang on I'm going to go look

it's e34biturbo he doesn't post here often

Uh you haven't been following the forum very close have you,lol

attack eagle
12-19-2010, 04:55 AM
That's the guy that was ripping people off, isn't it? LOL!

sachmo12345
12-19-2010, 05:13 AM
MacR's looks amazing in person. Mine is really nice but next to his it just looks average.

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 05:17 AM
That's the guy that was ripping people off, isn't it? LOL!

Like it was his job

attack eagle
12-19-2010, 06:09 AM
WASNT IT?

And his car wasn't very nice looking either. Unless you really love F&F.

http://www.msprotege.com/members/Aricjm15/danger%20to%20manifold.JPG

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 06:23 AM
I guess it kinda was,lol. Not laughin at frontin540 cause he still got screwed but whatcha gonna do bout it?

pack
12-19-2010, 07:05 AM
I don't recall cndalpina's car at the moment, but both e34nication's and lord drift's cars are oxford green... like mine.

:eek: did i mention i was colorblind :silly
i guess i like oxford green now too

DAHHN
12-19-2010, 07:44 AM
this ones:
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/bmw3-1.jpg
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/bmw2-2.jpg

and this one is currently my wallpaper:

http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/5-16-09-001.jpg
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/5-16-09-038.jpg

i saw another in the registry thread .. i'll look for it and post it here

S.Hafsmo
12-19-2010, 08:21 AM
Havent really seen all the cars on this forum, but I do love the ones with the ACS body kit like Uber Soldat's and Weksos' cars.

Uber Soldat:
http://img830.imageshack.us/img830/8573/newsig2z.jpg

Binjammin
12-19-2010, 09:32 AM
Some of my faves are Brandon (FiveandDime)

Jhennig's two cars, the black one before it got in the accident was probably the cleanest e34 I've ever been in, and his new white one he says is even cleaner and the pics sure look it.

Jesse James' car is awesome.

Tortexal had an awesome e34, I don't know if he still has it or not, but it was purty.

My530wagon has a gorgeous touring.

Gotta love Jon's car and Justin's car too, obviously, just for the mods and powah.


Can't wait to get my car together so I can say "I love my car" and not "I love my pile of car parts waiting to be assembled". :rolleyes

Oh, and MikeDay's car too, just for the audacity of swapping an m50 to an m62.

87shark
12-19-2010, 09:53 AM
:eek: did i mention i was colorblind :silly
i guess i like oxford green now too

I feel ya man so am I.


Neonmuffler
MacR
5mall5nail5
87shark :shifty
and the ones others listed.

HE53
12-19-2010, 09:59 AM
MrM62 is that his name?

From CA, with the black 540i6. Its not only an amazing car, but it has been for so many years and its still around.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/kesslerbmw/e34/Jimmyz2reflect.jpg

E34nication
12-19-2010, 10:02 AM
Cdnalpina's, Jon's, Mac's, redfive's.... And I think when user "Spooled" completes his next round of mods it will hands down be my favorite.

about6
12-19-2010, 10:33 AM
PLease post pictures of these said e34's so that everyone can but the car to a name.

+1:eyecrazy

e34moneypit
12-19-2010, 10:37 AM
MrM62 is that his name?

From CA, with the black 540i6. Its not only an amazing car, but it has been for so many years and its still around.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/kesslerbmw/e34/Jimmyz2reflect.jpg

BigM62.

ShapeShifter
12-19-2010, 10:48 AM
No love for a clean stock original car??

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 11:10 AM
Pat, you consider yours original still? I will add yours to my list as 1 sweet touring but stock, I don't think so.

ShapeShifter
12-19-2010, 11:15 AM
No! I was just say'in.

I would not enjoy a stock E34, but there is something to be said for clean original car.
With the oldest example over 20 years old, they now become "classic" cars.

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 11:19 AM
Yeah I would say the closest example to a beautiful stock e34 would be Bond's. Only change appears to be wheels but looks clean enough to eat off the hood.

Stir Fry A Lot
12-19-2010, 11:41 AM
H20playdamien's M5 touring and that guy's with the exhaust made out of flex pipe.

Steve547i
12-19-2010, 11:44 AM
I think steve92E34 has a nice couple of E34s.
hey thanks!

Lol at the steve car comment. An auto e34 is only so cool. The calypso car is going to be badass however for the time being, it isn't in its best form. I like Boogieboy's the best. Alpine white with ACS wheels and nex coils annnnnd and S52 to top it all off really makes that one my fav.
the silver car is clean in pictures. Pictures plus it being silver hide alot of paint flaws. and its cloth so thats a ton of win.
Thanks for the positive comment though about the red car :)



My530wagon has a gorgeous touring.

This is a fact. I was super impressed with it at the 09 bear mtn meet


Yeah I would say the closest example to a beautiful stock e34 would be Bond's. Only change appears to be wheels but looks clean enough to eat off the hood.
He is car is essentially flawless not that he got the rust fixed. Its really really clean

DAHHN
12-19-2010, 12:16 PM
http://i368.photobucket.com/albums/oo127/DParker75089/2_useless_without_pictures.jpg

E34N
12-19-2010, 12:43 PM
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/e34ntoys/E34harmed.jpg

Meeve
12-19-2010, 12:52 PM
omg that e34-e39 head light looks... wrong or something.

+1 on bond's car. gotta love the white color!!! and omg it does look clean from his sig.

685 hp.. still not too bad :P

86GT635
12-19-2010, 01:22 PM
I get no love, haha. There is a lot of nice cars here.

How about mines? from this
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e345355speed011.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e345355speed003.jpg

to this
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535012-5.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535008-5.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535010-7.jpg

Not the most modded, but its a m30 5 speed with 119k miles.

Kashmirbeige525
12-19-2010, 01:28 PM
That interior is in great shape man!

Steve547i
12-19-2010, 01:33 PM
I get no love, haha. There is a lot of nice cars here.

How about mines? from this
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e345355speed011.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e345355speed003.jpg

to this
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535012-5.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535008-5.jpg
http://i731.photobucket.com/albums/ww314/DJMorgan116/e34%20535i/e34535010-7.jpg

Not the most modded, but its a m30 5 speed with 119k miles.
Gotta love alpine. Very clean car sir. Dont get it all damaged up when you go offroading though!

86GT635
12-19-2010, 01:41 PM
No joke! My favs here are the turbo m5 project, madmikes is pretty cool, miche has a nice custom wagon, that green m5 wagon, I haven't been around here that long so I haven't seen the OGs cars.

TGreene
12-19-2010, 01:50 PM
86GT, aren't those front jack positions a bad idea? It looks like you could sit on the front fender and bring the car down down.

PorscheH6
12-19-2010, 01:54 PM
H20playdamien's M5 touring and that guy's with the exhaust made out of flex pipe.

His car is actually a 525iT with just about all M5 aesthetic mods. What broke the camel's back was the fact that he claimed to have a S38 swap in it but never posted pics, so everyone got on his case and I'm pretty sure he no longer posts here...

Shame because it looked nice, sans the lying owner and grotesque blue angel eyes.

Between cars I've seen in person, Motatti has a super sweet Alpine M5 and Weksos has his amazing black ACS E34.

86GT635
12-19-2010, 01:58 PM
:dunno I've always used the front subframe for jacking. It definitely won't move. The engine is directly on top of them. I like it better than using the front unibody rails, because it makes a fulcrum with all of the weight hanging over the jacks.

Where else would you put them?

Stir Fry A Lot
12-19-2010, 02:55 PM
Whatityahoo's turdbo'd M20.

BoldUlysses
12-19-2010, 03:09 PM
I like MMcClintock's and JesterMX6's for their wheels.

Jon's for the power and inspiration, though there are more than a few things I wouldn't have done aesthetically and/or in terms of compromising the car's functionality.

Mike (jbondbmw) has one of nicest AW E34s on here.

There are others but those are my contributions to the hug-fest.

-Matt

NikosX
12-19-2010, 03:48 PM
I did.

Steve547i
12-19-2010, 03:54 PM
Whatityahoo's turdbo'd M20.

Lol. He never turbo'd

DUDMD
12-19-2010, 04:24 PM
5mall5nails for HP's.
I absolutely love Jon's E34, but it's not the highest HP e34 yet.
Your're forgetting the 1000+ whp V12 E34
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=656223

B10 BITURBO
12-19-2010, 04:44 PM
Don't know about the "nicest" but I'd sure trade mine for 5mall5nails 700whp beast. Or any B10 or M5 actualy.

Thanks,, IMO the B10 BT is with out doubt,,, the most ,, the greatest ,, the fastest,, the most powerful,, and etc etc E34 ever made .. and i am talking about an oem car

I guess they are the most rare E34 here

here is a photo of my car outside a hotel in Garmisch Partenkirchen in Bayern (Bavaria) ;)

http://cs-003.123.is/b409a079-1a77-4701-87a8-c38708929e7f.jpg

nismoracer65789
12-19-2010, 04:57 PM
I was thinking about this thread today and add neonmuffler to my list
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/nismoracer65789/1283701526_resized.jpg

S.Hafsmo
12-19-2010, 04:58 PM
oh man.. If I ever came over one for sale..:drool:

86GT635
12-19-2010, 05:10 PM
Finally some pics. lol

Hotel Alpina, classic!!!

Last I saw from neonmuffler he had a turbo to do, but took it off the road, like he gave up or something.

napuli
12-19-2010, 05:21 PM
I really really really like the yellow Alpina. Can you show us more pictures? Not into the black out tail lights but everything else I like. That car looks amazing. Are the windows tinted green? The glass looks a little darker than stock.

googone20
12-19-2010, 05:24 PM
I like Jon's, Neonmuffler, Weksos, MacR's, M5W's, and a few others. Some of you guys trying to post pictures of your own cars with lift kits, please post in the 4x4 section!

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 05:37 PM
I like Jon's, Neonmuffler, Weksos, MacR's, M5W's, and a few others. Some of you guys trying to post pictures of your own cars with lift kits, please post in the 4x4 section!

Hence the reason I haven't posted any pics of mine, but springs are sitting in the other room waiting for me:buttrock

86GT635
12-19-2010, 05:38 PM
Right, because they like to put M in the title of their car. And think it's cool to run spacers and chinese struts.

bfp9
12-19-2010, 05:40 PM
Right, because they like to put M in the title of their car. And think it's cool to run spacers and chinese struts.
lol wut? I like spacers with wheels studs.

Schneider
12-19-2010, 06:31 PM
Almost none of the people mentioned to have the nicest e34 posted in here :stickoutt.
Among others that have been mentioned I like Boogie Boy's car too. In complete stock form I like mine :shifty




http://cs-003.123.is/b409a079-1a77-4701-87a8-c38708929e7f.jpg

Ferrari yellow:drool:

DUDMD
12-19-2010, 06:34 PM
I was thinking about this thread today and add neonmuffler to my list
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l177/nismoracer65789/1283701526_resized.jpg
I vote for best looking E34 paint job, car is sick.


Some of you guys trying to post pictures of your own cars with lift kits, please post in the 4x4 section!:lol:lol:lol:lol

AZChris
12-19-2010, 06:51 PM
Pictures need to be added with names.

googone20
12-19-2010, 08:02 PM
The M stands for manual transmission and I have to run spacers because my tires would be rubbing on the lower spring mounts if I didn't. As for my Chinese coilovers, they are nice and didn't hit up my wallet too bad. The only real difference are the struts and I have seen guys have Billy's and Koni's fail just as easily. Lots of guys here are running the NEX coils and are very happy with them. I am not into trying to bash people on forums, but I still think it was weird to post pictures of your own car in this thread.

86GT635
12-19-2010, 08:25 PM
Post up a pic of your car too. Why's it weird?

MaxSteel
12-19-2010, 08:35 PM
NEXs are made in Japan, not China. BIG difference. And spacers help performance if anything.

Kashmirbeige525
12-19-2010, 08:40 PM
I like that one ^, white car lowered on gold BBS is always a good combo.

SleazyV
12-19-2010, 09:50 PM
There are lots that I like (while mostly lurking) on here, most of them have been mentioned already except for E34play's 540i. I have a rolling shot of it as my desktop right now.

bfp9
12-19-2010, 09:58 PM
I am in agreement with 540play and boogieboy for sure.

adriver
12-19-2010, 10:02 PM
PLease post pictures of these said e34's so that everyone can but the car to a name.
we know what they look like newb


Also, havent seen smallsnails in action, but what about that nearly 1000hp euro (IIRC swedens, VS motorsports or something similar) that cant stop smoking the tires as it laps the other cars on the track.

close 2nd that silver b40 with 6 spd touring and style 20s that recently came back to texas.

about6
12-19-2010, 10:29 PM
Pictures need to be added with names.


I assumed guys would post pics with their opinions but I guess not? Would reallly be more :eyecrazy

cmgreensr
12-19-2010, 10:31 PM
I assumed guys would post pics with their opinions but I guess not? Would reallly be more :eyecrazy

I am way too lazy to go finding pics. Luckily 1 of my picks was Maxsteele and he posted with his car in his sig, so my work here is done.:confused

DUDMD
12-19-2010, 10:37 PM
There are lots that I like (while mostly lurking) on here, most of them have been mentioned already except for E34play's 540i. I have a rolling shot of it as my desktop right now.
Yep, his car is just slammed on real m-pars, looks cool.





Also, havent seen smallsnails in action, but what about that nearly 1000hp euro (IIRC swedens, VS motorsports or something similar) that cant stop smoking the tires as it laps the other cars on the track.
I posted one of them as the highest HP in here with a link, the v12 turbo V.S. motor built E34, their M5 is stupidly powerful, but not the nicest looking.

adriver
12-19-2010, 10:49 PM
I posted one of them as the highest HP in here with a link, the v12 turbo V.S. motor built E34, their M5 is stupidly powerful, but not the nicest looking.
not an e34 motor, and thread title states nothing about nicest "looking". Id take take the power over a drop, wheels, and a bodykit any day.

DUDMD
12-20-2010, 02:09 AM
not an e34 motor, and thread title states nothing about nicest "looking". Id take take the power over a drop, wheels, and a bodykit any day.
Doesn't matter what motor, too. But having to do what nobody else does by sticking a v12 into an E34 and a ridiculously huge turbo on top that is has to be one of the nicest.
I think nicest as in overall quality, detail and care of the builds would be Jon's car. (SmallSnails)

VacMan
12-20-2010, 02:17 AM
Any of the Alpina cars. Saliya's Daytona Violet Euro 3.8 car is beautiful and fast...it dyno'd at over 300rwhp. Some of you guys saw it in person at the socal meet and didn't even realize what it was. :)


(http://members.cox.net/euro-m5/m5-4.jpg)

d1984
12-20-2010, 02:48 AM
http://gallery.me.com/briancatral/100186/DSC_0581/web.jpg
:eek:

cmgreensr
12-20-2010, 02:52 AM
^:drool:

pack
12-20-2010, 07:39 AM
^that is nice, that is the drop i want!
i need a few more millimeters

Boogieboy
12-20-2010, 08:04 AM
I think that this thread Is still all subjective. :-/

Everyone has different taste so no one would ever agree completely, That being said I have taken inspiration from a lot of cars on here. Stock, Modded, low or high, I like the E34 form as a whole and I appreciate the different Ideas that people come up with.:)



I also appreciate the people who appreciate my car.;)

shu328
12-20-2010, 08:56 AM
bruinbimmer ftw. Never heard a better sounding exhaust on an m60 powered car.

I want to hear said exhaust!

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 09:11 AM
Thanks for all the kind words guys - I know my car isn't for everyone. Things like the radio and stock seats or m5 seats could have been retained but I was going for that stripped down but refined look. I know its not the most powerful E34 out there but my 685 rwhp pull was on pump gas and water/meth so thats impressive (to me at least!) with only a 2.8L motor!

Thanks again! Pics would be good for the newer guys less familiar with car:username, but I don't want to be that guy.

Personally, I like:

Boogies, the M5 w/ the ACS mirrors, 5 and dime, maxsteelz, samsons because I powder coated 160 bolts for him lol, and does anyone remember JR from .info w/ his silver car?

ARMAN
12-20-2010, 09:16 AM
I want to hear said exhaust!

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=20095961

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3OSgnNf03A

Boogieboy
12-20-2010, 09:27 AM
Boogies.......... "samsons because I powder coated 160 bolts for him lol"

Thanks Brochacho.


And lol at the bolts comment!:lol

Remember these?:cool
http://i610.photobucket.com/albums/tt190/djrockit01/coppertubes1.jpg

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 09:30 AM
Haha yup! Many hours spent in front of a bead blaster! I need to get back into it, life has just been busy :(

about6
12-20-2010, 10:00 AM
http://gallery.me.com/briancatral/100186/DSC_0581/web.jpg
:eek:

This is a winner in my book! NICE

cornflakecwl
12-20-2010, 10:42 AM
http://gallery.me.com/briancatral/100186/DSC_0581/web.jpg
:eek:
This one comes close...
I can't remember who's car, but there's a calypso 540 on M-Pars that is stanced perfectly, just the epitome of a clean e34 to me.

tour96se
12-20-2010, 11:08 AM
adrivers hellrot, just a sucker for red cars.

NeonMuffler
12-20-2010, 11:58 AM
Finally some pics. lol

Hotel Alpina, classic!!!

Last I saw from neonmuffler he had a turbo to do, but took it off the road, like he gave up or something.
i have not given up, im rebuilding the car this winter:)

DAHHN
12-20-2010, 12:27 PM
i have not given up, im rebuilding the car this winter:)

your car with that paint job...:buttrock:urtheman

T444E
12-20-2010, 12:33 PM
Thanks,, IMO the B10 BT is with out doubt,,, the most ,, the greatest ,, the fastest,, the most powerful,, and etc etc E34 ever made .. and i am talking about an oem car

I guess they are the most rare E34 here

here is a photo of my car outside a hotel in Garmisch Partenkirchen in Bayern (Bavaria) ;)

http://cs-003.123.is/b409a079-1a77-4701-87a8-c38708929e7f.jpg

Dakar?

jbondbmw
12-20-2010, 12:41 PM
Dakar?

I believe Dakar is a paler yellow.

http://www.babym3.com/~babym3c/mmm3.jpg

T444E
12-20-2010, 12:41 PM
Either paler or that car is faded. I've seen one Dakar M3 and it was brighter than the one you posted :dunno

jbondbmw
12-20-2010, 12:43 PM
Yeah I would say the closest example to a beautiful stock e34 would be Bond's. Only change appears to be wheels but looks clean enough to eat off the hood.

Thanks, I know my car isn't everyone cup of tea since it rides on stock suspension and that isn't likely to change.

I do work very hard to keep it clean. I want her to last a very long time.

DAHHN
12-20-2010, 01:49 PM
Thanks, I know my car isn't everyone cup of tea since it rides on stock suspension and that isn't likely to change.

I do work very hard to keep it clean. I want her to last a very long time.

thats love:cool

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 02:04 PM
There is dakar I and II but both are pale, not bright by any means.

billygoat777
12-20-2010, 02:47 PM
I'm basing it off of looks from off the top of my head:
Boogie Boy
Wek Sos (sp?)
Analog, when he had it
Macr
Ingardj
Lord Drift

E34nication
12-20-2010, 02:55 PM
Since I didn't post pics before... here is one. Spooled's car. Definitely one of my favorites now... when it's got the wide(r)body, widened wheels and turbo it will almost certainly be my favorite by a long stretch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/spooled/IMG_1511.jpg

TommyFTR
12-20-2010, 03:08 PM
Five&Dimes's is pretty damn nice.

bigsixe34
12-20-2010, 03:58 PM
Ramirez54's ///M5 is just pristine in every way. the thing is perfect. my favorite example of a "preserved" e34.

others that i've always been influenced by/admired(in no order):

2dye4 (the mauritius and turbines look amazing)
Justin's Redfive
E34Nication
the Urinemachine(obviously :rolleyes)
Boogieboy
MaxSteel
all the Miller cars(for the SOHC love :p)
JHower08
Spooled
JCBe34
M5W(way back when...)
TouringDan
Sachmo12345
Ride1099(also way back when...)

and special mention of Sam Son's car. i've borrowed everything in the book from Mike in making my car :thumbup:

..as you can see I particularly love Alpineweiss and low :stickoutt

Sam Son
12-20-2010, 04:05 PM
Personally Ive always loved Kris' car not so much for the power just for the fact that it was totally stripped out and had a cage. I have a fetish for cages. Also as far as the "nicest" E34 that I've seen personally? Christian's E34 M5 is immaculate, also that guy with the Euro individual Red on Red 95 M5. That car is also damn perfect. Dwire is his name or something.

samsons because I powder coated 160 bolts for him lol
:rofl Im flattered

Dakar?

I believe thats called Fly yellow...a non BMW color.


and special mention of Sam Son's car. i've borrowed everything in the book from Mike in making my car :thumbup:

:llkiss:weedsmili You know I love that 5er of yours...because it can climb berms, and smells of coconut and has oh so much character.

S.Hafsmo
12-20-2010, 04:33 PM
I wish Photobucket wasn't blocked at work (I'm on a ship the next 3 weeks), guess I'm missing out on allot of awesome E34's.

E34N
12-20-2010, 04:39 PM
I wish Photobucket wasn't blocked at work (I'm on a ship the next 3 weeks), guess I'm missing out on allot of awesome E34's.

Not too many pictures being posted. Most people KNOW what cars we're talking about.

If you look back to any calender thread, it will show most of these cars, and the owners

e34moneypit
12-20-2010, 04:57 PM
Personally Ive always loved Kris' car not so much for the power just for the fact that it was totally stripped out and had a cage. I have a fetish for cages.

:rofl Im flattered


I believe thats called Fly yellow...a non BMW color.

Thought it was Ferrari yellow?

Sam Son
12-20-2010, 06:23 PM
same thing...its really called fly yellow though

B10 BITURBO
12-20-2010, 06:42 PM
Thought it was Ferrari yellow?


same thing...its really called fly yellow though

Ferrari-Yellow is the color ,, yes in most cases ,,best known under that name

fly-yellow is also known ,, but color code is FER 102..
GIALLO FERRARI,, Ferrari Yellow Ferrari Gelb etc etc


B10 BT has been my ultimate realistic dreamcar since 1990, when i read in a car magazine about this car and i was so stunned by the performance this 4 door car could do,, that i was constantly thinking about it ,, and one day in 2007 i got a tips about a FERRARI-Yellow BT.. and i bought it next day.. and the color was the main reason :alright

And belive me,, driving fast in Europe ,, almost EVERYBODY goes to right and let you pass,, mainly because of the color i think :evil2

ps,, the B10 BT is still today cabable of 200 mph on the speedo ,,
183 mph real-speed

BEAT THAT ,, with a oem 4door car from that decade ((no way :cool:cool i am afraid of ))

And yes i am very pleased with this car

pack
12-20-2010, 07:01 PM
the 4door lotus might give you a run for your money ;)

tour96se
12-20-2010, 07:09 PM
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f6/Justinflorek/My5a1.jpg

skylinergtr
12-20-2010, 07:20 PM
my favs

-Weksos
-Boogieboy
-MacR
-cndaplina
-5mall5nail


the list goes on, but thats the 5 i can name right now.

wow, i didnt think my car would make it to this thread.

Thanks!



this ones:
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/bmw3-1.jpg
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/bmw2-2.jpg

and this one is currently my wallpaper:

http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/5-16-09-001.jpg
http://i684.photobucket.com/albums/vv207/DannySz/5-16-09-038.jpg

i saw another in the registry thread .. i'll look for it and post it here

TouringDan
12-20-2010, 07:52 PM
Contestant #1:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/shrike71/BMW/sig2.jpg
About as far from "OEM" as one can get....

Contestant #2:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v356/shrike71/Dans%20M5/M5Small.jpg
About as close to "OEM" as one can get.

ShapeShifter
12-20-2010, 08:27 PM
I don't think this is a BFc member, but check the custom engine install....
I think George Clooney (whatayahoo) could learn a thing or two from it.....








http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l143/Smokiemon968/junkyard%20finds/b5bca182.jpg

bmwmech1
12-20-2010, 08:54 PM
A whole lot of em...a few that come to mind are
Maxsteele
Jon of course
Garey BMWtech1
Weksos

There's alot more here that I wish my car looked like but I'm having a brain fart atm

Thanks for the props man... I think my vote would be cast for LordDrift's and Weksos' cars... never seen them in person, but man the pics are phenomenal! They both look "right" to me... EDIT: also Offthewall's red monochrome car and as Bin said, My530wagon's Touring is very, very nice...

No self plug here, but since I don't have a pic of the car in my sig anymore...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/Crashed%20E30/540i%20Album/RollingShot.jpg

Garey

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 09:22 PM
I don't think this is a BFc member, but check the custom engine install....
I think George Clooney (whatayahoo) could learn a thing or two from it.....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shN06qnp4oo

Replace "bottoms" with "flywheelz"

ArnZ
12-20-2010, 09:41 PM
my favorites

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/3021327463_35147172a2_b.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/Dark.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/DSC07396.jpg

nismoracer65789
12-20-2010, 09:48 PM
^ whose M5 is that in the first pic?

ArnZ
12-20-2010, 09:53 PM
^ whose M5 is that in the first pic?

hmmmm cant remember.......... come to think im not even sure he's even a member.

E34nication
12-20-2010, 09:53 PM
user "S14"

nismoracer65789
12-20-2010, 10:02 PM
Thanks
That car is so sick :drool:

about6
12-20-2010, 10:19 PM
my favorites

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/3021327463_35147172a2_b.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/Dark.jpg

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/DSC07396.jpg

Thanks for the pics ArnZ....Nice

TGreene
12-20-2010, 10:23 PM
Some seriously awesome cars on this forum.

I think any of those cars above would make my jaw drop more than anything built after 1998.

about6
12-20-2010, 10:28 PM
Thanks for the props man... I think my vote would be cast for LordDrift's and Weksos' cars... never seen them in person, but man the pics are phenomenal! They both look "right" to me... EDIT: also Offthewall's red monochrome car and as Bin said, My530wagon's Touring is very, very nice...

No self plug here, but since I don't have a pic of the car in my sig anymore...

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/ww136/bmwmech1/Crashed%20E30/540i%20Album/RollingShot.jpg

Garey

Self plugs are encouraged:) Nice car man!!! Tired of looking for all these said cars:D

DUDMD
12-20-2010, 10:36 PM
That ACS E34 looks mean.

about6
12-20-2010, 11:09 PM
[QUOTE=ArnZ;20970209]my favorites

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg

Anyone know what wheels these are? Also, does anyone have some for sale?

SC David
12-20-2010, 11:10 PM
Gotta give the nod to MacR, BigM62, Spooled and Weksos. Honorable mention to the late Shragon E34. That car got me into E34s in general, and was inspiration for me to begin any sort of modding.


[QUOTE=ArnZ;20970209]my favorites

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg

Anyone know what wheels these are? Also, does anyone have some for sale?CSL reps.

E34nication
12-20-2010, 11:13 PM
I think they were 9.5's all around iirc.

aktung
12-20-2010, 11:22 PM
my favorites

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg
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^ whose M5 is that in the first pic?

this car belongs to WMWNWMN on m5board. He lives in Spangdahlem Germany. Do not think he is a member here, most of the guys over there (m5board) do not speak well of this forum.

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 11:23 PM
this car belongs to WMWNWMN on m5board. He lives in Spangdahlem Germany. Do not think he is a member here, most of the guys over there (m5board) do not speak well of this forum.

Good, they can stay over there with their holier-than-thou automobiles.

aktung
12-20-2010, 11:28 PM
Good, they can stay over there with their holier-than-thou automobiles.
my point exactly... lol! Bitter table for one.... :rofl2

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 11:30 PM
my point exactly... lol! Bitter table for one.... :rofl2

Or we could invite them to some good old fashioned "show me how fast your car is" :)

aktung
12-20-2010, 11:36 PM
Or we could invite them to some good old fashioned "show me how fast your car is" :)


only problem with that is the majority of that forum is guys from Europe and we all know that the real euro cars would probably out run the majority of the US cars, unless alot of work has been done.

E34nication
12-20-2010, 11:42 PM
this car belongs to WMWNWMN on m5board. He lives in Spangdahlem Germany. Do not think he is a member here, most of the guys over there (m5board) do not speak well of this forum.

As I mentioned before he is user "s14" on bfc. He currently has a for sale ad in e34 classifieds.

5mall5nail5
12-20-2010, 11:54 PM
only problem with that is the majority of that forum is guys from Europe and we all know that the real euro cars would probably out run the majority of the US cars, unless alot of work has been done.

See you don't get that far in the conversation. When someone has the attitude that they're better than you or that their elitist attitude shows through and the medium is their car, you say, "Show me".

DUDMD
12-21-2010, 01:11 AM
http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/hh89/arnzlozz/bridge.jpg






I don't get the point of that lip on an M5 bumper. It just looks like it's tacked on there for no freaking reason, except for plowing snow maybe. The car is nice overall, though.

NikosX
12-21-2010, 02:39 AM
http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r216/NikosxM5/P1040494.jpg

skylinergtr
12-21-2010, 05:46 AM
oh how i missed this car.

when i joined, this was my fav. A nice clean low mileage m5 with rondells. What more to ask for.


http://i145.photobucket.com/albums/r216/NikosxM5/P1040494.jpg

gtopaul
12-21-2010, 08:33 AM
http://www.MyEasyPics.com/is.php?i=837221&img=blacke34.jpg

If he isn't a forum member he should be.

EuroPartConnect
12-21-2010, 08:37 AM
http://www.MyEasyPics.com/is.php?i=837221&img=blacke34.jpg

If he isn't a forum member he should be.

Im not feeling the red, it a little to much for me. Otherwise it looks great.

m60b30530i
12-21-2010, 10:35 AM
Good, they can stay over there with their holier-than-thou automobiles.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAImHAQvYEY

:buttrock

I would love to have Jon's e34, RedFive, Mac, jhowers, fivendime. Ugh the list could go on :devillook

cornflakecwl
12-21-2010, 10:58 AM
http://gallery.me.com/briancatral/100186/DSC_0581/web.jpg
:eek:


Since I didn't post pics before... here is one. Spooled's car. Definitely one of my favorites now... when it's got the wide(r)body, widened wheels and turbo it will almost certainly be my favorite by a long stretch.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v63/spooled/IMG_1511.jpg
Man I love clean tasteful BLACK e34's!! :)Seeing all these pics and props to well deserved cars makes me a little overwhelmed with how far mine needs to come, mechanical, looks, performance (tbd in that order!) but at the same time shows that in the end it will all be worth it! Looking forward to recognition from my peers for the work I put in!! :-) Beautiful cars gentlemen!!

cdnalpina
12-21-2010, 12:10 PM
Been a while since I have been on here, just busy with life. There are a lot of nice E34s here that I have seen and respect. It is cool to see how much heart and soul we as E34 owners pour into our cars - moreso than any other series that I am involved with anyway.

I can't put many usernames to cars but many of the ones listed are in my favorite list.

I'll have to post up a pic of my 525i when I get it back in the spring. Getting the body repaired, painted and adding an uncommon bodykit (at least I have not seen it on a car here yet). It may not be to everyone's liking, so it will be interesting to see the reactions.

B10 BITURBO
12-21-2010, 01:11 PM
the 4door lotus might give you a run for your money ;)

The Lotus Carlton :alright

Yes indeed.. a sure contender,, but the reliabuility is awful,,
that car is also a hell of a machine ,, one of my former want to buy.. and the only car i havent got that i really wanted ,, but i do not want this car anymore

bfp9
12-21-2010, 01:25 PM
Any car that is alpine white and not green or black I prefer. Daytona violet is nice but id take an alpine white car first.

5mall5nail5
12-21-2010, 03:06 PM
The Lotus Carlton :alright

Yes indeed.. a sure contender,, but the reliabuility is awful,,
that car is also a hell of a machine ,, one of my former want to buy.. and the only car i havent got that i really wanted ,, but i do not want this car anymore

I'll take care of the lotus!

janders211
12-21-2010, 07:28 PM
Been a while since I have been on here, just busy with life. There are a lot of nice E34s here that I have seen and respect. It is cool to see how much heart and soul we as E34 owners pour into our cars - moreso than any other series that I am involved with anyway.

I can't put many usernames to cars but many of the ones listed are in my favorite list.

I'll have to post up a pic of my 525i when I get it back in the spring. Getting the body repaired, painted and adding an uncommon bodykit (at least I have not seen it on a car here yet). It may not be to everyone's liking, so it will be interesting to see the reactions.

You have had about a bajillion cars that I loved...when I haxored all your pics from when you were here.....the 8, the mercs..the bi. Gorgeous.

Anyone have pics of that dark grey M5 on black wheels, maybe with a blaced out grill...that was one of my favs...can't remember whose it was?

about6
12-21-2010, 08:02 PM
http://www.MyEasyPics.com/is.php?i=837221&img=blacke34.jpg

If he isn't a forum member he should be.

Damn...just Damn!!!

imhighlander
12-21-2010, 08:41 PM
I am all over the red leather!

Thanks to Matt who posted up re my wheels. There are many far tastier E34s on here, but I appreciate the prop.

Dark Schnitzer
12-21-2010, 10:00 PM
Im not feeling the red, it a little to much for me. Otherwise it looks great.

THAT car has a lot of work done.....I give an 'A' for completion of theme.

Everyone has already mentioned my Fav's for the most part....I only wish I'd been at home over the last 2 years so KesslerBMW and I could have hammered out the details on Dark Schnitzer by now.....:mad

Happy Holidays everyone !!!!

Cheers,Vinny

Binjammin
12-21-2010, 11:43 PM
THAT car has a lot of work done.....I give an 'A' for completion of theme.

Everyone has already mentioned my Fav's for the most part....I only wish I'd been at home over the last 2 years so KesslerBMW and I could have hammered out the details on Dark Schnitzer by now.....:mad

Happy Holidays everyone !!!!

Cheers,Vinny

See, now if it were favorite forum members, the list would be a bit different. Finish up your car so I can add you to the list, would you?

darrenforeal
12-21-2010, 11:48 PM
there are so many on here that I love. Off the top of my head: Jon's turbo car, MaxSteel, boggeboy and five&dime. There are many many more though.

AND a shameless self plug ;). But, now I have staggered OE M5 wheels and am thinking about ditching the amber fogs. M3 cams go in first though

http://a.imageshack.us/img186/4656/cimg3909.jpg

B10 BITURBO
12-22-2010, 10:35 AM
There are many nice cars on the forum,,

Maby we should have a vote ,, That would not be seen public ,, and forbidden to vote on own car,,


Start with some opinion from members ,, and the 12 highest score
could be car of the month with random row in the calender ????

just my thought :)

5mall5nail5
12-22-2010, 10:37 AM
A vote would be fun

jbondbmw
12-22-2010, 10:41 AM
A vote would be fun

For you maybe, haha. I would maybe have a chance if it was for stock E34's, haha.

5mall5nail5
12-22-2010, 10:42 AM
Nah who cares about the results I am just saying its more fun than a thread with people posting that way you can see whats happening.

jbondbmw
12-22-2010, 11:00 AM
Nah who cares about the results I am just saying its more fun than a thread with people posting that way you can see whats happening.

Yes, it would be nice to have a poll with pictures.

Boogieboy
12-22-2010, 11:09 AM
I would be happy just to be in the top 10.:)

Grim Reaper
12-22-2010, 11:15 AM
Not sure who owns it now but another one not mentioned was Blutarsky's old M5 with the motorsport cloth leather bolster interior.

E34ührer
12-22-2010, 11:26 AM
Clean's touring....:D

"The nicest" and 'my favorite' are not the same...

'The Nicest': MacR, 5nail5, LouieD and Eric's old AW touring W/ s/c'd S50

'My Favorites': 5nail5, SamSon, Stuff, five&dime and the dude from socal (screen name?) with the black on black on black on black on black E34...(maybe wrecked?)

jbondbmw
12-22-2010, 11:26 AM
I would be happy just to be in the top 10.:)

I don't think that would be a problem. You have the nicest Alpine White E34 on the board and Alpine White is the best E34 color.

NeonMuffler
12-22-2010, 11:49 AM
a vote would be fun :)

moroza
12-22-2010, 11:55 AM
Mine's too busy being driven to be "nice".

stealthpenguin
12-22-2010, 12:25 PM
http://gallery.me.com/briancatral/100186/DSC_0581/web.jpg
:eek:

We have a winner.

Boogieboy
12-22-2010, 01:04 PM
Mine's too busy being driven to be "nice".

Mine get's driven every day, It's even had a few trips from GA to FLA.:)

E34ührer
12-22-2010, 01:07 PM
Mine's too busy being driven to be "nice".

2000 miles a month for me....:D I feel your pain.

wokke
12-22-2010, 02:03 PM
There are a lot of nice E34s out there but the by far hottest I've even seen in person is the ALPINA B10 BiTurbo owned by member B10 BITURBO.
Especially the color is something special and inspired me to have my 850 repainted in exactly the same FERRARI Giallo 102.
Thanks once more Sveinbjörn for having pointed me into the right direction. Nothing suits an E31 better than this color. :redspot

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0304.JPG

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0306.JPG

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0299.JPG

aktung
12-22-2010, 02:31 PM
There are a lot of nice E34s out there but the by far hottest I've even seen in person is the ALPINA B10 BiTurbo owned by member B10 BITURBO.
Especially the color is something special and inspired me to have my 850 repainted in exactly the same FERRARI Giallo 102.
Thanks once more Sveinbjörn for having pointed me into the right direction. Nothing suits an E31 better than this color. :redspot

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0304.JPG

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0306.JPG

http://www.wokke.de/BMW-E31-850Ci/PHOTO_SESSION/images/image/DSC_0299.JPG

WOW... pure secks!!!! gotta go clean up now.......
:aroused:eyebrows:drool:

Lord DRIFT
12-22-2010, 02:43 PM
A lot of cars on here are nice, I really couldn't pick a fave so I'll lists cars that inspired me.



-I hated 5snail's car before he borrowed his sister's wheels. Then I loved it! Thank you sis!

- That car posted before from manilla with the red interior made me jump on the ACS band wagon.

-JHower08 made me want to get lo lo.

-JCBe34 made me want to get stanced.

-S14 Inspired my painted lips. I love painted lips!!!!

-2dye4, mean as hell - that ass so fat!

Edit: Weksos came to the party late but when that car had the black LMs it was the cleanest I had ever seen.

Boogieboy
12-22-2010, 02:56 PM
There are a lot of nice E34s out there but the by far hottest I've even seen in person is the ALPINA B10 BiTurbo owned by member B10 BITURBO.
Especially the color is something special and inspired me to have my 850 repainted in exactly the same FERRARI Giallo 102.
Thanks once more Sveinbjörn for having pointed me into the right direction. Nothing suits an E31 better than this color. :redspot
Holy Shite!!!:eek:

That thing came out awesome Wolf!!!:buttrock

Why did you get rid of the Schnitzers?

wokke
12-22-2010, 03:42 PM
Holy Shite!!!:eek:

That thing came out awesome Wolf!!!:buttrock

Why did you get rid of the Schnitzers?

I didn't get rid of them. They are just getting a new paint job. But besides that I felt that my 3-piece Styling 5s are too nice to just sit on a shelf :stickoutt

http://www.wokke.de/rims/stock/RC090/3-piece/black-centers/01.JPG

BTW, here is the story about the repaint with more pics:
I'm tired of my silver 850 (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1497901)

///Manuel
12-22-2010, 04:25 PM
Good thread.
I'd love to see a list with votes... it'd be inspiring, just something informal.

Meeve
12-22-2010, 05:49 PM
e31 are the sexiest bmw ever made IMO.

RVAE34
12-22-2010, 05:54 PM
Awww I feel all warm and fuzzy some folks mentioned mine.... A few of my favorite pix. I have always loved Jon's car. Especially under the hood :)

I know it's been on and off the table almost as many times as I have thought about selling but my turbo install should happen soon. Last time I got ready to do it, I got married and did work to the house. Now I have no excuses. And the wife told me to blow the tax return on it :) And I get a bonus so I shouldn't have any problems. Then I am trying to figure out what's next. E39 or E60.... M5's of course ;)

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1127/1352056022_1b3f18e5d1_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2087/2123012383_1bdb91ce15_o.jpg

misswin
12-22-2010, 05:57 PM
Why was that beautiful piece of machinery not submitted to the calendar either? :(

RVAE34
12-22-2010, 05:59 PM
I was in like 4 or 5 of them. Probably gets old. I don't get on the forum that often anymore either.

misswin
12-22-2010, 06:04 PM
I was in like 4 or 5 of them. Probably gets old. I don't get on the forum that often anymore either.

Your car will never get old. Ever.

Redfive
12-22-2010, 06:09 PM
My car definitely needs a paint job before it can jump to the top of the list, but I'm glad it was mentioned. Only so much you can do with polishing a 22 year old car before you go thru the paint and have mismatched panels. It also needs new front seats. Im working on getting matching Zender side skirts.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4356117981_05155d4bd2.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4356124697_213b33022e.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4356879814_29d067d95d.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4356133669_061bc4675a.jpg

RVAE34
12-22-2010, 06:33 PM
Exactly what redfive said!!! Great pix btw!

I am so lucky I just found set of near perfect sport seats locally. My rear seat was bad too and the new one is flawless.

I am starting to think about painting mine too. Last year I wetsanded and buffed the car so I have to be careful now....

Hoolie
12-22-2010, 08:16 PM
My car definitely needs a paint job before it can jump to the top of the list, but I'm glad it was mentioned. Only so much you can do with polishing a 22 year old car before you go thru the paint and have mismatched panels. It also needs new front seats. Im working on getting matching Zender side skirts.



What have you done to it to warrant those louvres (vents) in the hood? :)

RVAE34
12-22-2010, 08:32 PM
Check his sig. 10 psi 340 RWHP :)

Hoolie
12-22-2010, 08:38 PM
Check his sig. 10 psi 340 RWHP :)


No it doesn't.. But a turbo does produce heat i guess..

RVAE34
12-22-2010, 09:09 PM
Well it certainly wouldn't hurt. He tracks the hell out of that car. Maybe you would know that if you had been on here longer. I actually like the vents on the hellrot car. And it's called personal preference. Which is why all our cars don't look the same. Redfive's car is sick. And is pretty legendary on the forum.

dalex44
12-22-2010, 09:13 PM
BC419 wins hands down =)

Redfive ive always been inlove with your hood

Binjammin
12-22-2010, 09:30 PM
No it doesn't.. But a turbo does produce heat i guess..

That sentence doesn't parse, what doesn't what?

The louvers are there to reduce underhood temps, a lot of it for intercooler heat soak.

B, that 10psi 340hp is the old motor, last year it got a rebuild and should be good for more HaHas once tuned. IIRC it just put down 275 at 6 or 7psi.

Hoolie
12-22-2010, 09:48 PM
Welll 340 hp doesn't necicearly mean you havta do louves but they're there for a reason so OK..

Wasn't knocking it.. Just curious..

Redfive
12-22-2010, 09:57 PM
What have you done to it to warrant those louvres (vents) in the hood? :)
Hopes and dreams.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4067/4356879720_d8495c0cd7.jpg

12 years of modifications and an engine with much potential. Its still being tuned. And while it has been tracked in quite sometime, its running the 2011 One Lap this May.

Here's the short list.


The car's specs:
Built November 1988. Originally a 535i 5 speed, Zinnoberrot red with a tan interior.
Currently has 217,000 miles

Engine:
3.6 liter M30b35 (bored)
Paul Burke designed low compression forged pistons (8:1cr)
Paul Burke custom turbo cam
Ported and Polished head
PAR chromoly forged connecting rods
Balanced lower end
Dinan polished intake manifold
Turbocharging Dynamics stage 2 turbo setup with their stage 4 SC-61 turbo and 3" exhaust
55 lb/hr injectors
Cometic MLS headgasket and APR studs
Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator
ATI fuel pump (in-tank)
DTA S80 Pro fuel management and traction control system tuned by ACE performance
Aquamist 2c Water-injection system
Bosch Motorsport ignition coil

Brakes:
Brembo GT with 2 piece drilled and slotted rotors by FrozenRotors.com and Performance Friction PF97 pads
M5 spec rear brakes with cross drilled Frozen Rotors and Pagid pads

Suspension:
Racing Dynamics adjustable sway bars
Ground Control Racing Coilover setup w/ 700/750 lb springs ft/rr with custom valved Koni adjustables
Front camber and caster plates
Rear M5 subframe with toe and camber adjust

Driveline:
UUC 6-puck ceramic clutch
BMW rebuilt Getrag260/5 gearbox
Quaife ATB differential with 3.46 gearing
Short shift kit

Wheels:
D-Force Empowers 18x8.5 front and 18x9.5 rear with 265/35/18 and 275/35/18 tires
Speedline Alesio 18x9 front and 18x11 rear with 255/35/18 and 275/35/18 tires - street setup

Interior:
4 pt rollbar
Schroth harnesses
Corbeau seats(coming soon)
Momo steering wheel, pedals and shift knob
Custom gauging (AFR, boost, oil temp, oil pressure, volts)
Partially stripped interior with aluminum floor pans

Exterior:
Zender aero (front and rear) - street
Custom track bumper with brake ducts, dive planes and splitter
M-tech side skirts (zender sides coming soon)
ACS rear spoiler (or APR perfomance carbon fiber GT wing)
Euro spec headlights with HID lighting (smoked)
Vented hood
Shadowline trim

m60b30530i
12-22-2010, 10:00 PM
^ wow funny how I almost have the same mileage as you

I'd like to tag along when you go to do the lap, if you don't mind :)

Redfive
12-22-2010, 10:05 PM
Welll 340 hp doesn't necicearly mean you havta do louves but they're there for a reason so OK..

Wasn't knocking it.. Just curious..

They help with two things. One is the heat removal. A lot of heat builds up under there (even though everything is ceramic coated on the hot side) and the water to air intercooler can get heat soaked.
Two, when you install a splitter and a flat bottom under the engine, the air needs a place to go. By directing the up thru the hood, the under side of the car becomes a low pressure zone and the top side a high pressure zone (opposite of an airfoil) and that helps produce down force. They're probably not big enough to actually produce downforce on my car but it certainly helps eliminate lift.


^ wow funny how I almost have the same mileage as you

I'd like to tag along when you go to do the lap, if you don't mind :)

Fitting since the cars were built the same week. How is my old girl doing?
The closest we'll be during the One Lap is Summit Point.


Exactly what redfive said!!! Great pix btw!

I am so lucky I just found set of near perfect sport seats locally. My rear seat was bad too and the new one is flawless.

I am starting to think about painting mine too. Last year I wetsanded and buffed the car so I have to be careful now....
Your car has always been a favorite of mine.

You've gotta love the magic of good photography and photoshop. You can hide the chips and dents so much better than in real life.

I wet sanded the pin stripe off my car a couple years ago and then polished the crap out of it. I burned thru the paint in several locations, so that was the last time that was done. It just has to make it thru the One Lap in the spring, then I'll turn my attention to the body. Fix the dents, rust, mis-matched panels and body trim. Then she'll be good for another 20 years.

about6
12-22-2010, 10:49 PM
My car definitely needs a paint job before it can jump to the top of the list, but I'm glad it was mentioned. Only so much you can do with polishing a 22 year old car before you go thru the paint and have mismatched panels. It also needs new front seats. Im working on getting matching Zender side skirts.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4005/4356117981_05155d4bd2.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4063/4356124697_213b33022e.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4037/4356879814_29d067d95d.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4068/4356133669_061bc4675a.jpg

Still near the top as far as I'm concerned! One of my favs! Thanks for the pics!

Hoolie
12-22-2010, 11:11 PM
My car definitely needs a paint job before it can jump to the top of the list, but I'm glad it was mentioned. Only so much you can do with polishing a 22 year old car before you go thru the paint and have mismatched panels. It also needs new front seats. Im working on getting matching Zender side skirts.



Have you looked in the Junkyard threads.. Saw someone who pulled a pair of zender sides i belive and was selling just this week..

Ever thought of making those louvres same color as the car? Kinda get that stealthy look going.. ".... ooh nice e34..... heeeeeeeeeeeey :confused OOh bet it moves too"

Most exiting i seen up close is a e34 turbo with the westgate pipe going up thru the hood :D

m60b30530i
12-22-2010, 11:13 PM
Fitting since the cars were built the same week. How is my old girl doing?
The closest we'll be during the One Lap is Summit Point.




I never knew that very cool, she is doing very good serving her purpose as a reliable dd. Found some rust under the side skirts, that will be removed this spring and a coolant flush is in the works. Oh and in dire need of control arms and sway bar bushing which will be done next week :D

Hmmm ok well if I can't make it ill look forward to the videos and pics :devillook

5mall5nail5
12-22-2010, 11:21 PM
Since we're whoring our own pics now :)

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0006.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0408.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0019.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0097.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Jon_Kensy_Photo_101030_IMG_6890-Edit-Edit-2.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0717.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/e34_shot1.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

http://vimeo.com/16112762

Just in case the newer guys haven't seen.

Redfive
12-22-2010, 11:27 PM
Since we're whoring our own pics now :)

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0006.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0019.jpg


I need a alcantra shifter boot.

I love your gauges. The attention to detail on your car is insane. I wish I had the patience to put that much effort into mine. I get to a certain point and then I want to go and drive it.

5mall5nail5
12-22-2010, 11:29 PM
Thanks Justin yeah it takes a lot of self control sometimes I want to get in it and just blast off, other times I get in it and crap my pants some. It balances out.

Redfive
12-22-2010, 11:36 PM
Have you looked in the Junkyard threads.. Saw someone who pulled a pair of zender sides i belive and was selling just this week..

Ever thought of making those louvres same color as the car? Kinda get that stealthy look going.. ".... ooh nice e34..... heeeeeeeeeeeey :confused OOh bet it moves too"

Most exiting i seen up close is a e34 turbo with the westgate pipe going up thru the hood :D

I search the classifieds and spotted nothing. GooGone has been holding a pair for me. The tricky part is coming up with the money for parts that are not critical to racing this spring when there are so many other parts that I need and are critical to the effort.

The louvers are real carbon fiber. Because of that I didn't want to paint it. Plus, the car was not exactly stealthy before the louvers.


Thanks Justin yeah it takes a lot of self control sometimes I want to get in it and just blast off, other times I get in it and crap my pants some. It balances out.

So the photo in your sig, is you after driving the car?

5mall5nail5
12-22-2010, 11:45 PM
haha that image is much much more interesting than that

MacR
12-23-2010, 12:58 AM
Jon..... send one of those in for the calendar.

RVAE34
12-23-2010, 08:06 AM
Jon's car is sex!!!!

Hoolie
12-23-2010, 08:30 AM
I search the classifieds and spotted nothing. GooGone has been holding a pair for me. The tricky part is coming up with the money for parts that are not critical to racing this spring when there are so many other parts that I need and are critical to the effort.

The louvers are real carbon fiber. Because of that I didn't want to paint it. Plus, the car was not exactly stealthy before the louvers.


So the photo in your sig, is you after driving the car?

It's not in the classifieds.. It's in one of the recent junk yard exploration threads i think..

Boogieboy
12-23-2010, 10:01 AM
Since we're whoring our own pics now :)
Just in case the newer guys haven't seen.

I'm surprised that you held out this long....lol.:rolleyes


You did a lot of what I have been planning to do with the black carpet and and black upper deck. :-)

5mall5nail5
12-23-2010, 12:52 PM
Haha thanks man -

The black carpet was a bit of a PITA. I did it when it was like 100F outside so picture being in an E34 w/ a respirator and 100F - terrible. But much much much better looking than the beigey/tan/shopping bag color.

Boogieboy
12-23-2010, 12:59 PM
Haha thanks man -

The black carpet was a bit of a PITA. I did it when it was like 100F outside so picture being in an E34 w/ a respirator and 100F - terrible. But much much much better looking than the beigey/tan/shopping bag color.Ha Ha....I bet that sucked. The reason why I never got around to the interior Is because I have not had a garage for the last 6 years. I just got a new house and garage so as soon as I can get my wife to clear all of her crap out of It I will start tackling the projects that I want to work on.:D

KrackerJap
12-23-2010, 01:06 PM
@5mall5nail5
I'm new and that car is awsome I feel like my life is much better now that I have seen pics of it...

Lets me know the potential of my own car "MAD PROPS"

NorCalZman
12-23-2010, 01:07 PM
pfft. This is easy. My Olympic edition, obviously....

http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/9890/img1285n.jpg

:D:D:D

RVAE34
12-23-2010, 05:16 PM
Redfive, I hope you weren't implying that I photoshop out imperfections. I wouldn't dare do that. I think I maybe have 3 dings in the whole car and they are very small. Minimal road chips confined to the hood and mirrors as I do a re-spray of my bumper once every other year.

I only want to re-paint the whole car b/c I have been painting cars as a hobby for 8 years now and have gotten really good at it so it would be easy. And I would wetsand the entire car until it was like glass after 4 coats of clear.

Binjammin
12-23-2010, 09:17 PM
Redfive, I hope you weren't implying that I photoshop out imperfections. I wouldn't dare do that. I think I maybe have 3 dings in the whole car and they are very small. Minimal road chips confined to the hood and mirrors as I do a re-spray of my bumper once every other year.

I only want to re-paint the whole car b/c I have been painting cars as a hobby for 8 years now and have gotten really good at it so it would be easy. And I would wetsand the entire car until it was like glass after 4 coats of clear.

Nah, he's talking about cleaning up pics of his own car. It will greatly benefit from a new coat or two. It's hardly fugly at 10 feet, but it does have things that need to be cleaned up. Redfive repaint? Yesplz!

RVAE34
12-23-2010, 09:37 PM
I wondered how that thing looks so perfect after the track abuse :) It's why I never tracked the 510.



Jon... Do you have remote oil filter? Or is it easy to get to yours. Looks a little tough to reach under that manifold and hose.

6erWEBB
12-23-2010, 09:55 PM
http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

Where did you get the gold for the engine bay, judging by the build quality of the car its gotta be real right? Id love that for my six eventually.

about6
12-23-2010, 10:36 PM
Since we're whoring our own pics now :)

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0006.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0408.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0019.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0097.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Jon_Kensy_Photo_101030_IMG_6890-Edit-Edit-2.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0717.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/e34_shot1.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

http://vimeo.com/16112762

Just in case the newer guys haven't seen.

Whoa...I think this just answered my question!!! Is there anything better???
I guess I have to go back and search all the names listed but I think this is the front runner...outstanding work man!

misswin
12-23-2010, 11:07 PM
This page officially takes forever to load because of people quoting Jon's picture whoring post a billion times. Lolz.

5mall5nail5
12-23-2010, 11:13 PM
:rofl

bmwm1128
12-23-2010, 11:35 PM
http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Jon_Kensy_Photo_101030_IMG_6890-Edit-Edit-2.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

I don't have an E34, but I thought I'd put my vote in for Jon's car anyway. I was going to post pics of his car, but he beat me to it.

Hi-res of first quoted pic is currently my background.

And Jon: I would just like to thank you for the second picture. I used it in my college application to Rice. The application asked me to upload a 2D scannable image that appeals to me, so I immediately thought of that picture. It's a great picture that shows awesome colors, a beastly engine, amazing build quality, and remarkable attention to detail.

shragon
12-29-2010, 02:03 PM
there's quite a few nice e34's here, but my favorite is my buddy weksos' e34 (http://www.motormavens.com/2010/07/carspotting-ac-schnitzer-e34-bmw-5-series/)



http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u120/e34ntoys/E34harmed.jpg

lol!

this how you know that you're an ol skool bfc e34 member



Gotta give the nod to MacR, BigM62, Spooled and Weksos. Honorable mention to the late Shragon E34. That car got me into E34s in general, and was inspiration for me to begin any sort of modding.

thanks! :buttrock

both your e34's are/were clean!

fazeman94
12-29-2010, 07:57 PM
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/90/91/20100810.jpg

http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/90/91/fazema12.jpg

http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/90/91/fazema18.jpg

http://img53.xooimage.com/files/9/1/c/20101110_005-2250dfd.jpg

http://img51.xooimage.com/files/6/3/8/20101110_017-2250efb.jpg

cmgreensr
12-29-2010, 08:04 PM
I think Jon's pic with the leaves falling should be October in the calendar to signify fall as that picture does and Boogieboy's snow shot as December.
Give me my calendar. Done

attack eagle
12-29-2010, 08:26 PM
http://i67.servimg.com/u/f67/14/27/90/91/20100810.jpg


Fail.

not even top 25.

Hoolie
12-29-2010, 08:45 PM
Fail.

not even top 25.

That's the french diesel that gets spammed 10 000 pics in every other thread?

Well it's a nice car but not the nicest car ever.. :confused

fazeman94
12-30-2010, 09:50 AM
made me see the 25 then, and shows yours!!

at least not the same spirit of sharing and love at home in the U.S., you think yourself superior , that you are to judge?

I never said I had the most beautiful but just wanted to he divided with passion but apparently this is the wrong forum

I let you go mister master of the world

DAHHN
12-30-2010, 12:17 PM
Since we're whoring our own pics now :)

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0006.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0408.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0019.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0097.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/Jon_Kensy_Photo_101030_IMG_6890-Edit-Edit-2.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/IMG_0717.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/e34_shot1.jpg

http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

http://vimeo.com/16112762

Just in case the newer guys haven't seen.

DAMN, how i love you car... mmmm delicious!!!

This one and Redfive are in my list now! Im still with Weksos' which remains in my background.

BoldUlysses
12-30-2010, 12:25 PM
http://jonkensy.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/enginebayoverhead1.jpg

The nicest part of this engine bay is obviously the factory cover on the aux. water pump. You don't see those every day, for sure.

Oh, and Jon, clean up those water spots on the fusebox cover! Geez.

-Matt

Johal E32
12-30-2010, 12:29 PM
damn, I need to a get a E34 for DD'ing.

bfp9
12-30-2010, 02:09 PM
made me see the 25 then, and shows yours!!

at least not the same spirit of sharing and love at home in the U.S., you think yourself superior , that you are to judge?

I never said I had the most beautiful but just wanted to he divided with passion but apparently this is the wrong forum

I let you go mister master of the world
We are very honest on this forum, deal with it or leave.
From one comment you are concluding that we Americans think we are superior? Well then you, sir, are very perceptive because we ARE superior. lol im just playin :shifty....maybe

E34N
12-30-2010, 02:22 PM
made me see the 25 then, and shows yours!!

at least not the same spirit of sharing and love at home in the U.S., you think yourself superior , that you are to judge?

I never said I had the most beautiful but just wanted to he divided with passion but apparently this is the wrong forum

I let you go mister master of the world

It's actually, the opposite. The purpose of the thread was to basically compliment those E34's on the board many of us like. NOT TO POST PICTURES OF YOUR OWN. Posting pictures of your own is basically, saying "I HAVE THE NICEST E34." Yes, I know we all love our cars, but many look at others for inspiration.

You've been on the BF.c for 2 minutes. You have no clue about our community. We love everyone, even those friends north of our border:D.

HlyDvlz1989
12-30-2010, 02:27 PM
looking at these photos makes me want to drop 10k into my car and take a picture just for approval

ill work on that :D

fazeman94
12-30-2010, 02:29 PM
I do not say all Americans are superior, but just him, anyway google translator translated anyhow and I did not catch the theme of the topic.

sorry if you misunderstood it so good but it would be easier if all the world speak French lol

Finally, do not easily understand

good bye to you and E34 for always ;)

metale
12-30-2010, 02:29 PM
made me see the 25 then, and shows yours!!

at least not the same spirit of sharing and love at home in the U.S., you think yourself superior , that you are to judge?

I never said I had the most beautiful but just wanted to he divided with passion but apparently this is the wrong forum

I let you go mister master of the world

Actually, you did, as soon as you posted it on the "Nicest E34 on Bimmerforums".

"Who is he to judge"? Someone with an opinion, just like all of us in here. Want mine?

Dark Schnitzer
01-04-2011, 05:25 PM
See, now if it were favorite forum members, the list would be a bit different. Finish up your car so I can add you to the list, would you?

Hahahaha, well thanks Benj......but the honors can ONLY go to the owners of cars that managed to get COMPLETED,lol.

I know I can't knock mine out ....for a while !! But I soooo want to.:(

Jon, your car has turned out great ! What was the final HP ??

Cheers,Vinny

e34moneypit
01-04-2011, 05:40 PM
Hahahaha, well thanks Benj......but the honors can ONLY go to the owners of cars that managed to get COMPLETED,lol.

I know I can't knock mine out ....for a while !! But I soooo want to.:(

Jon, your car has turned out great ! What was the final HP ??

Cheers,Vinny

685 to the wheels.


Whennnnnnnnnnnn are you going to get back to that Silhouette?

Dark Schnitzer
01-05-2011, 12:33 AM
685 to the wheels.


Whennnnnnnnnnnn are you going to get back to that Silhouette?

Wow....that should be a ton of fun. I was just driving a 650hp Bi-turbo V12-AMG Benz over the weekend......much more smooth and usable power than I thought it would be for sure !!

My S5 Silhouette is on the back burner til I can get a window of time to dedicate unfortunately.:(

KesslerBMW has been after me to get on it too,lol.:buttrock

OneTwo
01-05-2011, 01:32 PM
Whoa, I had no idea there were this many gorgeous E34's on BF.c. I need to spend more time in the E34 section. :shifty

A few of my personal favorites, WekSos, e34play, 5mall5nail, boogieboy, etc. Since looking in this thread I've found a lot more that I love, but I've been drooling over those 4 since I signed up here.

NeonMuffler
01-05-2011, 02:44 PM
please answer the PM 5mall5nail5 :)

5mall5nail5
01-05-2011, 02:51 PM
please answer the PM 5mall5nail5 :)


Ah sorry - my pm box was 99% full this morning and I accidentally blew away the first like 15. Can you resend it?

NeonMuffler
01-05-2011, 04:32 PM
Ah sorry - my pm box was 99% full this morning and I accidentally blew away the first like 15. Can you resend it?
surething :)

thomas824
01-06-2011, 04:06 AM
I was the lucky guy who purchased Blutarsky's M5. I have spent a few dollars since I have purchased it. But that ole girl only has interior appeal. Id say top 25 would be a HUGE stretch with all of these gems on this forum. My car needs some new paint. couple of door dings need to be removed as well. Mechanically however, I think it is damn near perfect. That is where all of the money went. all OEM as well.




Not sure who owns it now but another one not mentioned was Blutarsky's old M5 with the motorsport cloth leather bolster interior.

Xing Yang
01-06-2011, 10:56 AM
I would be happy just to be in the top 10.:)

You e34 is my wall paper!!
one of the sexiest e34 on this forum!! :buttrock

shelbyz4u2nv
01-06-2011, 11:08 AM
I can't remember who's car, but there's a calypso 540 on M-Pars that is stanced perfectly, just the epitome of a clean e34 to me.

hoping it was mine lol? :blush2

KrackerJap
01-06-2011, 11:34 AM
Not enough Pictures in this thread for sure

AquilaBMW
01-06-2011, 11:40 AM
Not the nicest by a far margin, Heidi just wanted to join the fun... and of course represent for the Tourings.:D

http://i717.photobucket.com/albums/ww171/ElaineBeemer/Cinda037-1.jpg

googone20
01-06-2011, 12:25 PM
When did you switch to the E39 M5 wheels? I had a set of those on my first E34 a few years back. Besides the M pars they are one of the best OEM options because of the staggered sizes.