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karl mansfield
11-15-2010, 03:57 PM
hello there everyone i have a 1994 bmw e34 with a 4L manual v8 in it i want to fit a 5L v12 to it seen a few photos of people that have done it befor i start it would like to ask anyone that has done one dose will it fit with a power brake. my bmw has a power brake unit on it and not the normal servo setup the power brake unit is earther big to put it right just like to know will it get in the way of putting a v12 in or will i be ok hope to hear from some one on it thanks for the time

Tj Hunter
11-15-2010, 04:07 PM
Use the search function, its been beaten to death, moral of the story, if you dont have a HUGE wallet, forget about it. And its not worth the work when you already have a GREAT and reliable engine in your car.

BoldUlysses
11-15-2010, 04:10 PM
Which V12 do you want to put in? The McLaren F1 V12 would be your best choice but those don't pop up on Craigslist too often. The M-B V12 is underrated, and the Jag V12 is actually 5.3L, so you'd get an extra 0.3L of displacement.

My personal choice would be a R-R Merlin or even Griffon, the latter without the counter-rotating prop drive.

I don't think the power brake booster will be a problem. If worse comes to worst you can upgrade to a solid rocket booster for increased performance.

Good luck!
Matt

bblazen
11-15-2010, 04:19 PM
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1174499&highlight=v12

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1552655&highlight=v12

karl mansfield
11-15-2010, 04:25 PM
thanks for the feed back not sure what v12 i want to put in iv had my cars for years rebuilt it from the ground up after the last owner had it run it in the ground i work on cars all day long love it plan is to replace my v8 with a v12 then put my v8 in my mini i do love the v8 always wanted to give it more power but have no luck finding a company that dose up rated parts for it sure i find a way round it


Use the search function, its been beaten to death, moral of the story, if you dont have a HUGE wallet, forget about it. And its not worth the work when you already have a GREAT and reliable engine in your car.


i know how you mean tho it never missed i beat

BoldUlysses
11-15-2010, 04:31 PM
Gotcha. Well, picking the right V12 is important, like choosing the right coffee at Starbucks.

My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt

cornflakecwl
11-15-2010, 04:33 PM
i know how you mean tho it never missed i beat
:shifty Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

NY Bimmers
11-15-2010, 04:37 PM
:shifty Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

of course they been far look even that way more like......

strad
11-15-2010, 04:41 PM
Which V12 do you want to put in? The McLaren F1 V12 would be your best choice but those don't pop up on Craigslist too often. The M-B V12 is underrated, and the Jag V12 is actually 5.3L, so you'd get an extra 0.3L of displacement.

My personal choice would be a R-R Merlin or even Griffon, the latter without the counter-rotating prop drive.

I don't think the power brake booster will be a problem. If worse comes to worst you can upgrade to a solid rocket booster for increased performance.

Good luck!
Matt

Now THAT would be something worth doing! Definitely hasn't been done to an E34 yet!

karl mansfield
11-15-2010, 04:41 PM
Gotcha. Well, picking the right V12 is important, like choosing the right coffee at Starbucks.

My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt


hopeing to get an engine out of a 8 series like to keep it all bmw the engine will be rebuit when i get one every part on my car is not far of brand new i love it to bits ever since i saw the photos on youtube i new is some thing to do next year i put some photos of my car on but not sure how to

Binjammin
11-15-2010, 05:29 PM
Gotcha. Well, picking the right V12 is important, like choosing the right coffee at Starbucks.

My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt


:rofl

Steve547i
11-15-2010, 05:45 PM
Gotcha. Well, picking the right V12 is important, like choosing the right coffee at Starbucks.

My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt
there is so much win in this post.

attack eagle
11-15-2010, 05:46 PM
t i do love the v8 always wanted to give it more power

Umm. you do realize the m70 v12 doesn;t make any more power than the m60b40... right?


and Jesus man. Search. loads of ways to make more power.

wait:

yo bro itbeez lyk dis, ud be no gotten no mo powah wif da vtwelf. ud bess be checkin round da internetz fer sum ideers on how 2 b mackin mo powah wif da v8, yo. lahk be usin da fo point fo. er be mannin up to a stick shift, ya knows whut i beez about?

Kashmirbeige525
11-15-2010, 05:50 PM
this is why i stray here sometimes :rofl

Layne
11-15-2010, 06:02 PM
Which V12 do you want to put in? The McLaren F1 V12 would be your best choice but those don't pop up on Craigslist too often. The M-B V12 is underrated, and the Jag V12 is actually 5.3L, so you'd get an extra 0.3L of displacement.

My personal choice would be a R-R Merlin or even Griffon, the latter without the counter-rotating prop drive.

I don't think the power brake booster will be a problem. If worse comes to worst you can upgrade to a solid rocket booster for increased performance.

Good luck!
Matt

I disagree. Counter-rotating props would be awesome on an E34.

cornflakecwl
11-15-2010, 06:44 PM
Which V12 do you want to put in? The McLaren F1 V12 would be your best choice but those don't pop up on Craigslist too often. The M-B V12 is underrated, and the Jag V12 is actually 5.3L, so you'd get an extra 0.3L of displacement.

My personal choice would be a R-R Merlin or even Griffon, the latter without the counter-rotating prop drive.

I don't think the power brake booster will be a problem. If worse comes to worst you can upgrade to a solid rocket booster for increased performance.

Good luck!
Matt

You missed the most obvious, a Ferrari V12. There is such a selection of different models from different years, I am sure you could find one that would mate right up to the stock tranny and engine mounts. If you get an older carbeurated one, you wouldn't even have to worry about re-wiring for a new ECU!! :)

Kashmirbeige525
11-15-2010, 07:22 PM
you can always try mounting 2 m30s together in a 6.0l v12, maybe bore them out a bit.

Steve547i
11-15-2010, 07:25 PM
you can always try mounting 2 m30s together in a 6.0l v12, maybe bore them out a bit.
except that 3.5 + 3.5 = 7

BoldUlysses
11-15-2010, 07:43 PM
I disagree. Counter-rotating props would be awesome on an E34.

That's some good out-of-the-box thinking. Silly me, constraining my advice to a wheel-driven method of locomotion.


You missed the most obvious, a Ferrari V12. There is such a selection of different models from different years, I am sure you could find one that would mate right up to the stock tranny and engine mounts. If you get an older carbeurated one, you wouldn't even have to worry about re-wiring for a new ECU!! :)

Excellent idea. I'd opt for a flat 12 from a 512BB; lower CG.


you can always try mounting 2 m30s together in a 6.0l v12, maybe bore them out a bit.

What about two M30s joined as a U-engine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U_engine)?

-Matt

Meeve
11-15-2010, 09:22 PM
:eatpop:

M30Stui
11-15-2010, 09:34 PM
You missed the most obvious, a Ferrari V12. There is such a selection of different models from different years, I am sure you could find one that would mate right up to the stock tranny and engine mounts. If you get an older carbeurated one, you wouldn't even have to worry about re-wiring for a new ECU!! :)

Ferrari V12 = smoke coming from the dashboard

+1 for the Merlin

Steve547i
11-15-2010, 09:34 PM
:eatpop:
ironic.

Meeve
11-15-2010, 09:47 PM
ironic.

I'm still twin turboing my m30. Only it will be in my jetta instead.

AquilaBMW
11-15-2010, 10:27 PM
And thus with encouragement and advice, the little fella departed to Mordo in search of the Ringed V12 monster to power his chariot...

Alas... that was the last the people of Middle Bfc. Earth heard from Karl Mansfield.

misswin
11-15-2010, 10:57 PM
Gotcha. Well, picking the right V12 is important, like choosing the right coffee at Starbucks.

My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt


Omfg. This made me exceedingly happy.

Kashmirbeige525
11-16-2010, 12:29 AM
except that 3.5 + 3.5 = 7

6 is close to 7 on a keyboard

attack eagle
11-16-2010, 01:31 AM
My first recommendation is to do a junkyard search for additional capital letters, commas and periods. Hopefully, most of the sentences you find there won't have been too picked over.

-Matt
Lots of periods and sentences at the women's penitentiary also.

karl mansfield
11-16-2010, 04:12 PM
there two roads im thinking of going down fitting a v12 to my e34 or twin supercharge my v8 i want to give it more power because 286 hp just dont cut it for me if i can find ways and places that have the bits i need to give my v8 about 500 hp i be happy

BoldUlysses
11-16-2010, 04:36 PM
Lots of periods and sentences at the women's penitentiary also.

*rim shot* Niiice. :D


there two roads im thinking of going down fitting a v12 to my e34 or twin supercharge my v8 i want to give it more power because 286 hp just dont cut it for me if i can find ways and places that have the bits i need to give my v8 about 500 hp i be happy

Twin supercharge? How about a two-stage supercharger? That's one of the cool things about the Merlin... Not to mention 2000+ hp in the later versions (four times your 500 hp requirement). And you don't even have to worry about pesky fuel injection, though you might want to consider installing a Tilly orifice in the SU if you plan negative-g maneuvers.

-Matt

bam240sx
11-16-2010, 04:39 PM
god i love the intrawebs

Layne
11-16-2010, 05:17 PM
because 286 hp just dont cut it for me

You do realize the V12 provides an additional 14hp, right? Or, roughly half the increase of putting a chip in your V8, for roughly 10 times the cost.

You can buy a supercharger kit for the V8 that will make it 400hp in a weekend for a few thousand. Or, you can convert the V12 to 6.0l that will make it 400hp for about $15,000.

AquilaBMW
11-16-2010, 07:20 PM
*rim shot* Niiice. :D



Twin supercharge? How about a two-stage supercharger? That's one of the cool things about the Merlin... Not to mention 2000+ hp in the later versions (four times your 500 hp requirement). And you don't even have to worry about pesky fuel injection, though you might want to consider installing a Tilly orifice in the SU if you plan negative-g maneuvers.

-Matt

Or just run with inverted tanks or pumps... then we can go negative G and give the slower E34's the bird. Just sayin.....

janders211
11-16-2010, 09:45 PM
:shifty Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

They are and has been where far when they have been where on like. Honestly it has been far from where been like for ever!

K Fox
11-17-2010, 12:22 AM
They are and has been where far when they have been where on like. Honestly it has been far from where been like for ever!

I am sooo tempted to sig this..

Fox