E30 S52 turbo track toy build

[TheJuggernaut]

I didn't want to do this until the build was complete and running but I can't resist after this latest shipment from Bavarian Solutions came in.

Hopefully, at some point, this thread ends with an E30 with M3/MZ3 suspension, 12" wide rims, boost by gear and 25 psi peak track-only brick. The engine is a currently stock S52 running on VEMS (with endless thanks to multiplex).

http://imgur.com/9tzGo.png

I've got about 150 pictures of the car's life so far but here are some key ones.

First day I picked it up. Traded it for a 20D straight up, had a busted clutch. Sat for 1.5 yrs but the shitty eta lump fired right up.

http://imgur.com/vhPoQ.jpg

We were still in Vancouver at the time, living in an apartment. Changed the clutch in the underground. Didn't go over well with the super:

http://imgur.com/R3PO6.jpg

Found the S52. Prepping it in our livingroom. This is part of why I married my woman.

http://imgur.com/IzGAY.jpg

All done. Most people tend to be happy here:

http://imgur.com/yJsdF.jpg

Interior after installing the first seat, with the Kirk weld-in bar. I don't care I like my hammy steering wheel (laquered wood is surprisingly grippy, even with sweaty hands) but I will swap it for a Mod.08 if I find one for a good deal. Sunroof cassette has been cutout. Welded the skinned panel back in and siliconed the gap - looks OE from outside.

http://imgur.com/Lkfcg.jpg

Toyota... delivering driving pleasure. I own a corner house in an upscale neighborhood and I don't give two shits about my lawn. But it bugs a neighbor of mine so much that he comes and cuts it for me every weekend or so.

http://imgur.com/L6Ei7.jpg

This was a scary step... taking a perfectly running car and, well, I don't have a good history with side cutters

http://imgur.com/rybtk.jpg

The center dash, waiting for the boost gauge. Was originally going to go with the TRU BOOST but now I'm set on making VEMS' boost by gear working - I don't really want 25psi in 2nd.

http://imgur.com/Kd0Pt.jpg


New GT35r .82 sitting on top of an Otis special:

http://imgur.com/QOD81.jpg


Fuel rail c/o multiplex!

http://imgur.com/1hXR9.jpg


Car's name engraved (not up for debate, it has meaning and purpose lol):

http://imgur.com/XUpZA.jpg

[mazur]

Interesting piston design. What manufacturer?

[m3jasper]

Nice pistons and rods! :D

Looking forward to seeing more pics once there is more progress.

[trthrrt489]

lovin the carport workmanship, and living room awesomeness!!

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks guys!


Interesting piston design. What manufacturer?

The pistons are by Ross

[raoke]

I like the sound of this story.. (no homo) In for the turbo :) (no pun intended) :)

[TheJuggernaut]

I like the sound of this story.. (no homo) In for the turbo :) (no pun intended) :)

Thanks man, yeah I like the story myself, it's been some journey. When we first moved back to Toronto, I wasn't done the swap yet and was so busy with the house hunt that in the heat of the frustration, I was tempted to offer it for sale to someone to finish it. My wife basically said there's no fuckin way. And later I thought about all the things I've been through for/with this car (I could write a book about it), at this point it's not worth money to me. It doesn't matter what someone would pay for it, doesn't matter how much I've spent on it. I'd rather set it on fire than sell it now.

It's almost impossible to explain to someone who doesn't get it. Does, say, a C5 vette make a faster base for a track car, for a 600whp engine? Yeah. But it's not even funny how little that matters. The car represents an accumulation of great challenges, frustration and difficulties and so far, resulting victories and happiness, the value of which, can't be appreciated without being experienced.

[raoke]

I couldn't have said it any more eloquent. Shedding some man tears over here.

Any other plans for the exterior or is this going to be track only judging from the gutted interior and trailer?

[TheJuggernaut]

I couldn't have said it any more eloquent. Shedding some man tears over here.

Any other plans for the exterior or is this going to be track only judging from the gutted interior and trailer?

Yeah this is a track only car. It's formally registered for the street because it's the last year car that doesn't require emissions. But it's just so I can have some peace of mind while doing quick tests on the street.

The exterior will only be changed out of necessity. It still has its original dents etc, I really dig the triple takes the car gets after the first track session everytime. :)

I will get it resprayed at some point because after the turbo is sorted, it's getting 12" wide rims (and 14" 8pot/6pot bbk courtesy of WP Pro). It will require exterior changes but I'll try to keep them minimal. Alex S's is my inspiration. Hopefully at some point in this thread, there will be a pic of my car lookimg kinda like this (I want to add an APR wing):

http://www.teamunemployment.com/gavin/autocross/alex.jpg

[ritoab]

Thanks man, yeah I like the story myself, it's been some journey. When we first moved back to Toronto, I wasn't done the swap yet and was so busy with the house hunt that in the heat of the frustration, I was tempted to offer it for sale to someone to finish it. My wife basically said there's no fuckin way. And later I thought about all the things I've been through for/with this car (I could write a book about it), at this point it's not worth money to me. It doesn't matter what someone would pay for it, doesn't matter how much I've spent on it. I'd rather set it on fire than sell it now.

It's almost impossible to explain to someone who doesn't get it. Does, say, a C5 vette make a faster base for a track car, for a 600whp engine? Yeah. But it's not even funny how little that matters. The car represents an accumulation of great challenges, frustration and difficulties and so far, resulting victories and happiness, the value of which, can't be appreciated without being experienced.
Dude you just don't know how i am feeling you right now. It's the same reason I don't post much about my car and could have said the hell with it but I am trying to inspire myself to get it back on the road. I think after reading this She'll be back soon.

[Mrk1]

looks like a good build, Im planning to use my VEMS on my s50 so I want to see how you do it

[Maciej]

..ahem..

http://bavariansolutions.com/CarrilloRoss/IMG_6926.jpg

http://bavariansolutions.com/CarrilloRoss/IMG_6932.jpg

http://bavariansolutions.com/CarrilloRoss/IMG_6935.jpg


:alright

[TheJuggernaut]

Dude you just don't know how i am feeling you right now. It's the same reason I don't post much about my car and could have said the hell with it but I am trying to inspire myself to get it back on the road. I think after reading this She'll be back soon.

Glad to hear it man, do work! Sometimes it helps to just start doing stuff. Put your work clothes on, go to the garage, turn on the tunes and pick up some wrenches. Next thing you know, things will start happening on their own.


looks like a good build, Im planning to use my VEMS on my s50 so I want to see how you do it

Thanks man. Mine's already up and running and its wired using the stock OBDI harness. So if you need help feel free to ask (PM me for my email if you like). Multiplex is a VEMS guy as well and generally an electrical engineering wizard.


..ahem..

HEY... mine!

Seriously though, not that they need any hype but if anyone is looking for a supplier to deal with, I don't think you can do better than these guys in any way - be it the caliber of their products, their ownership of responsibility of the sale or patience in/quality of communication. I don't have a single complaint. Hell, Dave's on vacation and he's still replying to my emails.

[multiplex]

yay a build thread! i've been hearing about it for a long time behind the scenes, so i'm excited to see how all these components come together. its going to be an amazing build. :D

[Maciej]

HEY... mine!

Seriously though, not that they need any hype but if anyone is looking for a supplier to deal with, I don't think you can do better than these guys in any way - be it the caliber of their products, their ownership of responsibility of the sale or patience in/quality of communication. I don't have a single complaint. Hell, Dave's on vacation and he's still replying to my emails.

How was the packaging? :D

[TheJuggernaut]

yay a build thread! i've been hearing about it for a long time behind the scenes, so i'm excited to see how all these components come together. its going to be an amazing build. :D

Thank you Mr Wizard!!!


How was the packaging? :D

An epic pain in the ass lol!

[Maciej]

An epic pain in the ass lol!

Means I did my job right, the more difficult it is to tear apart the better its packed :D

[lughed]

Nice, Are you getting the car tubbed or going really wide?

[TheJuggernaut]

Means I did my job right, the more difficult it is to tear apart the better its packed :D

LOL yeah, I was opening it and was like "wow he wasn't kiddning... NOW OPEN FUCKIN SESAME!!!"


Nice, Are you getting the car tubbed or going really wide?

Thanks man, it's a road racer so I want the extra track width. I plan to do something similar to what Alex did above - have a bodyshop weld on visors over the wheels just enough to cover them lol. I love that elephant feet look!

Already got updates. Our local performance shop decided to have a crazy up to 50% off sale so I got my Tial gear. Never thought I'd actually get a deal in Canada. My MVR WG and Q Bov ran me 324 and 209 CDN.

Posing with some of my other bits:

http://imgur.com/naiXp.jpg

[TheJuggernaut]

A few mementos from the last track day:

http://imgur.com/tFNYh.jpg

http://imgur.com/YAQLL.jpg

[sirzepp]

I love the E30 more each day. Nice build. Wish I would have gone with Carillo rods...and those pistons are AWESOME. Next time.

[TheJuggernaut]

Memento from possibly the last time it's driven naturally aspirated. Reminded me that the LSD has lost its L.

Few warmup laps followed by some thrills for the inlaw. Felt bad at first for 13:45, thought I scared the poop out of him but all he did later was rave about how much fun it was haha!

http://vimeo.com/14309100

[Eloff19]

Looks like a blast :thumbup:

Judging by your footage it appears as though VEMS is working very well for you. I'm particularly intrigued with this step here:

This was a scary step... taking a perfectly running car and, well, I don't have a good history with side cutters

http://imgur.com/rybtk.jpg



as this will be my winter project. Still unsure of which standalone route to go.

I was wondering what your thoughts/experiences were with the conversion [VEMS in particular] if you'd care to share. Feel free to take it to PM, as it is not my intention to dilute your build thread.

[multiplex]

Keep a close eye out for a plug and play vems unit for m50 motors! Someone has managed to source the connector.

[bubela]

So this is where the red rail went. Looks like it will belong on the engine. Giddy up!

[TheJuggernaut]

Looks like a blast :thumbup:

Judging by your footage it appears as though VEMS is working very well for you. I'm particularly intrigued with this step here:

as this will be my winter project. Still unsure of which standalone route to go.

I was wondering what your thoughts/experiences were with the conversion [VEMS in particular] if you'd care to share. Feel free to take it to PM, as it is not my intention to dilute your build thread.

Thanks man, yeah I love it! It's significantly more responsive than the stock maf/413 setup. The throttle response takes me back to my days with the S38, where the throttle was an on/off switch, right there.

I racked my brain over which EMS to choose for months last year. I admit to being a brand whore so I instinctively looked towards Motec. When I realized I would not benefit enough from what they offer to justify the price, I moved on to AEM and some others. But I with the corner of my eye, I was looking at VEMS, which offered things most of the others short of a pimped out Motex box did (eg onboard logging, AEM has fixed 512k, VEMS uses SD card - log your ass off). But it's built by what in my mind was a group of Hungarian kids working after school for the fun of it and is a no-name (disclaimer to VEMS guys: I know this is not true, I'm just saying this is the impression I had from the amateur website and the fact that I'd never really heard of it before).

But the real kicker was the fact that I was pretty much on my own for most of these. For a time I was set on buying AEM but I tried to find base maps and couldn't find them anywhere. Most people who run various EMSs had boosted engines and many of them didn't even have them running full sequential.

All this time I was drooling over the videos of the inspiration for this build, Jay's (multiplex). I decided to drop him a line to see what he uses and if he could hold my hand a bit to get going and through any trouble I run into. To my surprise, I got an essay back and he's been helping me ever since. His config got me way ahead of the game. I wired it differently (used the stock wiring, with some obvious changes like MAP sensor, and additions like the EGT and AFR) so my pinout was different, and being NA for now, some setup stuff I had to change BUT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvP7a12YeGs

Thanks to taking my time to figure things out and having smart people help me through it, it fired up on the very first try! I don't know a lot of people who can say that for a straight OEM managed swap.

So the real key isn't anywhere near which EMS you choose (Megasquirt or McLaren), but rather how accessible is the support from people who have already done something at least similar to what you want to do. Sure, there are those out there who can figure all this poop out in a few hours on their own because they've done it a hundred times. But I'm guessing since you've asked, that you're not one of them (like me).

Also one other bonus for VEMS is that while the documentation is sparse to non-existent, the VEMS forum http://www.vems.co.uk/forum/ is very active, with lots of very experienced, smart and patient people including actual VEMS developers, willing to help you. One of those people has written an amazing install/config guide (some of this stuff is a bit out of date, esp the MegaTune use [VEMSTune is great] but overall it's all there):

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=MembersPage%2FPhatBob%2FUserGuide


Keep a close eye out for a plug and play vems unit for m50 motors! Someone has managed to source the connector.

I'm sure the pnp is a very loosely used concept here. You can't just use the wiring straight up, you will at least have to make changes for the wideband and add grounds (if you run onboard map).

[EvilOne]

your thread is an inspiration. hopefully soon i can sort the funds to start my engine build and get the car back on the road after sitting for 4 years.

[TheJuggernaut]

your thread is an inspiration. hopefully soon i can sort the funds to start my engine build and get the car back on the road after sitting for 4 years.

Thanks man, happy to hear it!

[Eloff19]

So the real key isn't anywhere near which EMS you choose (Megasquirt or McLaren), but rather how accessible is the support from people who have already done something at least similar to what you want to do. Sure, there are those out there who can figure all this poop out in a few hours on their own because they've done it a hundred times. But I'm guessing since you've asked, that you're not one of them (like me).

I most definitely agree with you here...and you're absolutely correct, especially with something of this nature. It's always nice to have someone "hold your hand" the first time through, so to speak.

I'd like to get my hands dirty on the engine management side of things before delving into boost, as I prefer to do things myself - that way I only have myself to blame. That and the fact that I don't feel as though being "locked" into a setup due to a tune fits my needs very well. With that said, did you change management to gain tuning & logging experience/capabilities, prior to upping the output? or do you have tuning experience and just wanted the ecu set up first?



One of those people has written an amazing install/config guide (some of this stuff is a bit out of date, esp the MegaTune use [VEMSTune is great] but overall it's all there):


I've read through that guide a little while back - very good stuff. Are you using VEMSTune?

[gstuning]

Thanks man, yeah I love it! It's significantly more responsive than the stock maf/413 setup. The throttle response takes me back to my days with the S38, where the throttle was an on/off switch, right there.

I racked my brain over which EMS to choose for months last year. I admit to being a brand whore so I instinctively looked towards Motec. When I realized I would not benefit enough from what they offer to justify the price, I moved on to AEM and some others. But I with the corner of my eye, I was looking at VEMS, which offered things most of the others short of a pimped out Motex box did (eg onboard logging, AEM has fixed 512k, VEMS uses SD card - log your ass off). But it's built by what in my mind was a group of Hungarian kids working after school for the fun of it and is a no-name (disclaimer to VEMS guys: I know this is not true, I'm just saying this is the impression I had from the amateur website and the fact that I'd never really heard of it before).

But the real kicker was the fact that I was pretty much on my own for most of these. For a time I was set on buying AEM but I tried to find base maps and couldn't find them anywhere. Most people who run various EMSs had boosted engines and many of them didn't even have them running full sequential.

All this time I was drooling over the videos of the inspiration for this build, Jay's (multiplex). I decided to drop him a line to see what he uses and if he could hold my hand a bit to get going and through any trouble I run into. To my surprise, I got an essay back and he's been helping me ever since. His config got me way ahead of the game. I wired it differently (used the stock wiring, with some obvious changes like MAP sensor, and additions like the EGT and AFR) so my pinout was different, and being NA for now, some setup stuff I had to change BUT...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvP7a12YeGs

Thanks to taking my time to figure things out and having smart people help me through it, it fired up on the very first try! I don't know a lot of people who can say that for a straight OEM managed swap.

So the real key isn't anywhere near which EMS you choose (Megasquirt or McLaren), but rather how accessible is the support from people who have already done something at least similar to what you want to do. Sure, there are those out there who can figure all this poop out in a few hours on their own because they've done it a hundred times. But I'm guessing since you've asked, that you're not one of them (like me).

Also one other bonus for VEMS is that while the documentation is sparse to non-existent, the VEMS forum http://www.vems.co.uk/forum/ is very active, with lots of very experienced, smart and patient people including actual VEMS developers, willing to help you. One of those people has written an amazing install/config guide (some of this stuff is a bit out of date, esp the MegaTune use [VEMSTune is great] but overall it's all there):

http://www.vems.hu/wiki/index.php?page=MembersPage%2FPhatBob%2FUserGuide



I'm sure the pnp is a very loosely used concept here. You can't just use the wiring straight up, you will at least have to make changes for the wideband and add grounds (if you run onboard map).

The pnp will use an auxiliary connector on the back for wideband and extra intput and output. Along with Serial connection, LCD connection and EGT.

I´m the developer of the VEMS Motronic 88pin PnP ecu and it is 100% PnP. If you where to run a M50 based engine on Alpha-N then absolutely NOTHING would need to be done to run it. For MAP (Speed density) you connect the vacuum line and your done. To run with wideband you´d connect the appropriate wires to the aux connector and be done.

There are no more grounds needed as the BMW wiring covers it just right for the VEMS unit, all stock sensors. It will feature a new enclosure so fulfill my initial plans of ZERO wires PNP solution. Indeed ready for space travel.

It´s compatible with the Non vanos and vanos wiring at the moment, very soon it will be compatible with S50B32 and S50B30 euro motors (non vanos only at the moment) from a single ecu. It will not be able to support Siemens 323i and 328i E36 engines. Those will be supported later in another version.

It will feature to name a few recent updates to VEMS

Adjustable injection angle
Sequential injection and ignition ( I designed it to have redundancy for failed cam sensor so it can run wasted and semi sequential)

individual cyl fuel trim
individual cyl ign trim

And all the regular VEMS stuff

Boost control
Wideband control
Flatshift, antilag, N2O control, launch control, boost by gear/speed (i made sure the vehicle speed input is used as well) , SD card internal logging and so on.

[Eloff19]

:buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks Gunni, glad to hear it! I guess for the grounds I was mainly concerned about the requirements in the instructions, since the OE harness doesn't come close to the gauge/length of the wiring for that.


I'd like to get my hands dirty on the engine management side of things before delving into boost, as I prefer to do things myself - that way I only have myself to blame. That and the fact that I don't feel as though being "locked" into a setup due to a tune fits my needs very well. With that said, did you change management to gain tuning & logging experience/capabilities, prior to upping the output? or do you have tuning experience and just wanted the ecu set up first?

I took the same path as you. I wasn't keen on learning how to install, configure and tune a standalone at the same time as breaking in and learning a big dollar turbo build. I don't think you can go wrong with VEMS. It does everything you will want and I mean shit... a developer just posted above... when was the last time an AEM or whatever guy did that. The only AEM S52 map thread I found was on an AEM forum... with one post, from the OP, asking for help, that's it.

For general stuff to get started, I'm always here to help if I can. Otherwise I'm sure multiplex, Gunni, or many others will get you through whatever problems you come across.


I've read through that guide a little while back - very good stuff. Are you using VEMSTune?

Yessir. It's getting to be a bit bloated, the rate at which they add functionality is outpacing the rate at which they make it more efficient but as long as you've got a laptop with some balls, it's a rather nice piece of software, even has some context sensitive help most places. It has also gotten massively more stable. It used to crash so easily that some functions were as good as a close button. In fact, I don't remember the last time I've had a new version crash, if at all.

[gstuning]

I do not work on any of the firmware, hardware or software aspects of VEMS to be clear.

I did however take a product and develop it further to satisfy a specific market segment.
i.e 88pin motronic users.

EDIT .

My full respect goes to the original developers and the current development team at VEMS.

[TheJuggernaut]

I do not work on any of the firmware, hardware or software aspects of VEMS to be clear.

I did however take a product and develop it further to satisfy a specific market segment.
i.e 88pin motronic users.

EDIT .

My full respect goes to the original developers and the current development team at VEMS.

Cool. Well, I still see guys like you as developers. I've seen guys compile their own versions with bug fixes and have those end up in the official build. Sure it may not be a part of the formal development team but still contributing to the product.

[TheJuggernaut]

The season is at an end. The car finally ran perfectly. So of course, that means it's time to take it all apart again.

http://imgur.com/Qzlwy.jpg

This time, almost everything is coming off. Drained the fluids, removed the rad and intake today. Should have the motor out by the weekend and call the builder to come pick it up.

My MZ3 rear axle should be here by then, and I'll be off to pick up a set of front E36 M3 spindles.

The gas tank is going to be junked. I've got a cool design in mind for a replacement. Going to get a new late model 62L tank, cut large openings in each saddle, put a high flow, low pressure pump with a screen pickup by the outer edge on the bottom of each saddle. Then make a tall, narrow surge tank inside the fuel tank, that these high flow pumps will feed, and out of this will be a line to an A1000 or similar outside. I'll also throw in some loose foam to minimize the sloshing reasonably. A fellow racer with a serious turbo Subaru, also said that they tried all kinds of fuel cells, and short of going with a 4k F1 certified ATL cell with baffled internal structures and stuff, they always had starvation until they made a design like this. They ran it down to like 1 gallon left in the tank and it never starved again.

I wish putting stuff together was as easy as taking it apart. I don't even want to think how long it took me to get from this stage to completion, while I managed to get it ripped down to this point in 2 hrs.

http://imgur.com/NKEjZ.jpg

[turbo325ii]

Did you say it was a small track and you would get up to 160 and maybe more on the back straight haha? I must have heard wrong.

AWESOME BUILD!

[TheJuggernaut]

Did you say it was a small track and you would get up to 160 and maybe more on the back straight haha? I must have heard wrong.

Yeah but 160 of the slow kind, KMs. :( I plan to have it geared for around 285-300 and I could totally see it being able to come close to that at tracks like the Glen or maybe MoSport.


AWESOME BUILD!

Thanks!

Got pics of my trailing arms that have shipped out! I've never been this psyched over used car parts.

http://imgur.com/ougJ3.jpg

http://imgur.com/CIu0J.jpg

http://imgur.com/LmX8h.jpg

[LukeG]

5 lug money baby!


I'm thinking a e30 is in my future. I miss them too much!

[good & tight]

Got pics of my trailing arms that have shipped out! I've never been this psyched over used car parts.

http://imgur.com/ougJ3.jpg



Looking good D. I'll be paying close attention to the Mcoupe swap and taking notes.

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks guys!

Otis, yeah I'm trying to find a set of rims I could live with right now. Knowing that I will eventually get rid of them makes it tough. On one hand I can't bring myself to buy some cheap crap but I also don't want to spend money on something decent... ideally I'd like to find DS2s for cheap 8.5 all around. Maybe I'll have to dig up 1-2 wheels at a time.

[m3jasper]

Looking good!

[TheJuggernaut]

Reached that step where I inevitably start thinking "what am I doing, it's perfectly fine how it is... can I actually get this done?", which is the sign that it's a worthy project.

http://imgur.com/J0rWG.jpg

[bubela]

It's worth it. Have you been in a turbo'd BMW before?

[TheJuggernaut]

It's worth it. Have you been in a turbo'd BMW before?

No, only modded Sooooopras

[LukeG]

it's worth it X 137,985

[TheJuggernaut]

Cleaned up the motor for the builder who left with it last night. Test fit the turbo for some parting engine glamor shots, won't see it again for a while:

http://i.imgur.com/BZcLd.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/8BrgL.jpg

[milKt]

That Otis special/35R combo looks like the Creature from the Black Lagoon.
:menani

Nice pron sauce shoss

BTW,
Djborya reported today that he is breaking M Coupe axles,
so they'll hold up for a while ... at least.

Who is building your engine? IYDMMA

[TheJuggernaut]

Haha thanks :)

Yeah I'm not surprised. But I'm not a drag racer, this car doesn't see first gear outside of the paddock so I'm hoping my driveline will last longer than usual.

[turbo325ii]

Looking great! Who is building your motor?

[TheJuggernaut]

Looking great! Who is building your motor?

Thanks! It's a local guy who specializes in big power Porker and Supra builds but is a closet BMW lover. Beyond his skill and impeccable reputation, I was mainly impressed by how much ownership he takes of his work. In my circle of friends, I prefer people who know how to be childish when called upon. But this dude is anal and almost a little curmudgeonly, I like that. He's been known to strip built motors apart because he wasn't completely comfortable with something. Doesn't take anything for granted about clearances, painstakingly checks everything even if it's brand new and/or OEM. Might not make for the most exciting beer buddy but I won't lose a second of sleep over him having my motor. Took me a long time to find a builder I could say that about.

[good & tight]

Finding a very good engine builder/machine shop is difficult and with the serious hardware going into the engine you don't want 1/2 assidness. My machinist is a hour drive away and well worth it.

[TheJuggernaut]

Finding a very good engine builder/machine shop is difficult and with the serious hardware going into the engine you don't want 1/2 assidness. My machinist is a hour drive away and well worth it.

Exactly. I basically wanted to find someone who would obsess over things the way I would, not one of those "ahh don't worry bout it" guys, and has the skill/experience behind it. The first sign that he was my guy was when I told him that I'd be doing the engine install. He kinda cringed and said ok but I insist on being present during first start-up.

[TheJuggernaut]

Looks like an adult vs kiddy arm

http://imgur.com/U0if6.jpg

[good & tight]

Nice..!! Do you need to add the subframe camber & toe kit on?

[TheJuggernaut]

No but I'm most likely going to add it. No better time. Want to get the subframe cleaned up anyway.

[TheJuggernaut]

Got my M3 fronts too, waiting for the front GC struts to arrive with the race Konis, should be good for 900-1000 lbs.

Early birthday present today, from the wife!!! She must have gone all 007 snooping my email for stuff I wanted, I was really unsure if I'd be getting this stuff because the engine build budget was getting out of hand (especially since my initial plans in the spring were .140 MLS, ARP studs and 400whp...). Nitrided +1 intakes, Inconel exhausts, Stewart pump!

(yes my background on all 3 monitors are my glorious rods/pistons, big woop, wanna fight about it :P)

http://imgur.com/jd0Mj.jpg

[Maciej]

Got my M3 fronts too, waiting for the front GC struts to arrive with the race Konis, should be good for 900-1000 lbs.

Early birthday present today, from the wife!!! She must have gone all 007 snooping my email for stuff I wanted, I was really unsure if I'd be getting this stuff because the engine build budget was getting out of hand (especially since my initial plans in the spring were .140 MLS, ARP studs and 400whp...). Nitrided +1 intakes, Inconel exhausts, Stewart pump!

(yes my background on all 3 monitors are my glorious rods/pistons, big woop, wanna fight about it :P)

http://imgur.com/jd0Mj.jpg

Send me a PM with your screen resolution and I'll whip together a few nice background's that are even higher quality :alright

[TheJuggernaut]

Send me a PM with your screen resolution and I'll whip together a few nice background's that are even higher quality :alright

*rubs hands*

[scooter3k]

Got my M3 fronts too, waiting for the front GC struts to arrive with the race Konis, should be good for 900-1000 lbs.

Early birthday present today, from the wife!!! She must have gone all 007 snooping my email for stuff I wanted, I was really unsure if I'd be getting this stuff because the engine build budget was getting out of hand (especially since my initial plans in the spring were .140 MLS, ARP studs and 400whp...). Nitrided +1 intakes, Inconel exhausts, Stewart pump!

(yes my background on all 3 monitors are my glorious rods/pistons, big woop, wanna fight about it :P)



sick birthday present!! sounds like you have a keeper :)

i should leave bigger clues for my wife :D

[TheJuggernaut]

sick birthday present!! sounds like you have a keeper :)

i should leave bigger clues for my wife :D

Thanks man, I agree! :D

[Maciej]

*rubs hands*

:D

http://www.bavariansolutions.com/Backgrounds/IMG_6928.jpg

http://www.bavariansolutions.com/Backgrounds/IMG_6929.jpg

http://www.bavariansolutions.com/Backgrounds/IMG_6935.jpg


:alright

[TheJuggernaut]

Set As Desktop Background... *click*

[TheJuggernaut]

Exciting [to me] update, my MCoupe diff arrived. Sprayed it down with some foaming cleaner. In the E30 world, it feels so unnatural to see a diff with zero rust on it! Made me think that I now basically have a long wheelbase MCoupe with an E30 shell on it.

http://i.imgur.com/P1Wha.jpg

My E36 GC struts with Koni racing shocks shipped today. Next order of business is to start going broke on the AN lines and fittings. My fueling setup is really crystallizing. Going to get a late model 63L tank, put my pre-pump into it, buy another one for the other side (lets me keep my stock sender wiring too). These feed a 1L aluminum cylindrical tank mounted somewhere around the back seat/trunk. This tank has the 2 pre-pump feeds, fuel rail return feed, overflow output to the main tank up high, and a low output to the high pressure pump. Something similar to what Lee Vuong does:

http://imgur.com/Y7AW3.jpg

[bubela]

This is going to be an insanely fun car. Love it.

[LukeG]

Neat fuel setup! Work looks very clean, something I appreciate

[TheJuggernaut]

Dropped off a stack of green to the engine builder, things should get rolling soon.

Some non-FI progress, finished ripping the car apart, it is now nothing but a shell, dash and some wiring. Fuel tank came out surprisingly willingly.

My new front shocks arrived, E36 M3 GCs with race Konis. Gonna start bolting the suspension back together soon. I plan to redo the brake lines with a prop valve. Then once I get the big order from Summit, with the AN lines, fittings and fuel pump, gonna start putting the fuel system together.

Not sure what to do for an intercooler yet. I'm thinking I'll use a 31x12x4. It seems I can get one for anything between 75 and 500 bucks (or more), no idea what the difference is really. Turns out my builder is hooked up with Vibrant who are a town over... so I'll see what he can do for me.

http://i.imgur.com/ouJ3U.jpg

[TheJuggernaut]

The engine builder is taking his time (as I asked), hopefully soon will get to see things taken apart and ready for machining. Not much news on that front.

Everything else is a different story. The front end is pretty much ready to go. Put the M3 spindles together with the GC struts and Koni race shocks, 750 lb Eibachs. The eyelets that hold the motor mounts on the subframe crossmember are pretty sad looking. Cut off the top and welded a 5/16" plate on top and 1/8" brace on the bottom. Not goin ANYWHERE.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs074.snc6/168459_492686458286_515028286_5821076_4980404_n.jp g

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs793.ash1/168376_492686868286_515028286_5821092_6318902_n.jp g

Keeping the discs/pads that came with the used bits while I get things bolted together and sorted.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs062.snc6/167256_493288533286_515028286_5835308_3545713_n.jp g

Got some US made copies of M68s (although I think they're more of an MCountour with vaginas), 17x8.5 all around, will do nicely until I get the engine tuned and sorted, then the big meat will come. Centers nicely with the 96+ M3 hardware and THR lollies.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs781.ash1/167127_493288983286_515028286_5835312_1174922_n.jp g

Started redoing the entire brake system too. Pulled out the old rear hard line, this weekend's task is to bend a new one to fit. Got a Wilwood prop valve, so will need to redo the lines at the master too. Finally ditch that questionable OE prop valve. Just like this:

http://i.imgur.com/j2btx.jpg

Then I've got the MCoupe rear end ready to go on the subframe with new 75A bushings, and new E30 handbrake cables. I know that sounds boring but it's actually strangely exciting, since it contributes to the feeling that I have not half assed or "I can live with that" anything on this car anymore.

Ordered a new fuel tank too, will get another transfer pump and start redoing the fuel system. But first, I got my Summit order... my first time dealing with AN fittings, they're like jewelery!

Aeromotive adjustable FPR

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs034.snc6/166448_500133058286_515028286_5941332_4702247_n.jp g

Pump, filters and surge tank. The surge tank is China made CXRacing but terrific quality! I am blown away - cost 70 bucks new on ebay! I was suggested to add a flex line somewhere, maybe I'll add one between the surge tank and the pre-filter.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs246.snc6/179483_500133123286_515028286_5941335_1033444_n.jp g

Ok but seriously, nothing prepared me for opening the pump box. None of the pics I've seen of it gave me enough obvious frame of reference. I assumed it was just a bit larger than the typical Bosch outboard pump... uh-uh honey. Decided to give everyone some well-known context for this behemoth:

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs787.ash1/167749_500132938286_515028286_5941329_5628725_n.jp g

At least if the car ever floods, I have a bilge pump...

That's it for now, some other odds and ends done but the focus is on finishing the suspension and getting the fuel system ready for when the engine is done. Then it's on to the lubrication (accusump, VAC billet filter block, cooler).

[turbo325ii]

You will definitely want to wear a jimmy every time you drive this thing... Dont want a sticky steering wheel... ;)

[Mudflaps]

nuts. you have my respect for doing that shit in a parking garage and dining room. i thought i was a redneck...

[TheJuggernaut]

You will definitely want to wear a jimmy every time you drive this thing... Dont want a sticky steering wheel... ;)

LOL good idea!


nuts. you have my respect for doing that shit in a parking garage and dining room. i thought i was a redneck...

Thanks man :) It takes the love of a woman who will let a man be a man - not with rolling eyes or begging followed by dictated compromise, but genuine support and even participation :buttrock (or living alone lol)

[multiplex]

sick stuff! can't wait to see it all done. then we need to figure out how to get both our cars in the same place

[TheJuggernaut]

sick stuff! can't wait to see it all done. then we need to figure out how to get both our cars in the same place

Man that would be a wicked photoshoot - the prince and the pauper, the rod and the rat. :P Playdate at the Glen? Just don't sell it. :buttrock

[M3 Beat]

Awesome build in the works man! :buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

Awesome build in the works man! :buttrock

Thanks man! I have so much left to do and I already can't wait to see what it'll be like, so many changes, not just the big power. Sometimes I have trouble falling asleep cause I can't stop dreaming about what it'll be like... :help

[hatchgrafix]

You fockin rock dude! :buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

You fockin rock dude! :buttrock

http://i.imgur.com/rCyEd.jpg

[TheJuggernaut]

Nothing too exciting for anyone else but I'm pretty psyched.

Got my new gas tank, verified that the two transfer pumps fit nicely. My fuel system design is a go! And my VAC billet filter block arrived today. I thought I'd have buyer's remorse about this thing, with all the stories about VAC, but I gotta say it sure is nice. There's no way I could get it made for less.

Engine builder has sorted out some other projects that were in the way and said there should be real progress this week. So hopefully by this weekend I'll have something more interesting to see.

http://i.imgur.com/kkWKB.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/0BAlI.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/gH44K.jpg


Ready with pressure/temp senders, and turbo oil feed. Will eventually swap the top aux plug for the accusump feed.

http://i.imgur.com/8UGS8.jpg

[TheJuggernaut]

IT HAS BEGUN.

Looks like I got really lucky with the engine, it's like new inside. The block, crank and cams look like new. There is no wear on the rod bearings, very little carbon buildup in the cylinders. I'm so relieved that the engine is as good as I hoped, great starting point.

Block and head get machined starting tomorrow, could take a few weeks for the head, going to a legendary local racing machine shop, and like most people of that caliber, they work when they feel like it.

One thing the builder told me that doesn't really jive with what I hear everyone say on this forum is the block finish. He says that the smoothness is actually not such a huge deal, being square is. So he says unless the block needs to get decked, which is unlikely, it will just be cleaned up, not refinished. The guy's work speaks for itself so I'm going to roll with whatever he thinks is best but just thought I'd mention it...

http://i.imgur.com/qUovP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RjRfX.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/EO4JT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/jSBGV.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/p7KYs.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/a62jo.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/w1JIM.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/toTv3.jpg

[turbo325ii]

Wow, Im having flashbacks to building my motor....

Are you going to torque plate hone the block? Thats the only thing I wish I had done on my build. That is probably what your engine builder is referring to about being square right?

Just tell the builder that the MLS reccomends the certain finish for proper sealing, and that many have issues with installing the MLS on an unprepped block...

Lovin the progress!! :buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

He made a torque plate for the boring but I mean if the block is square and true, which is likely, it won't get decked and refinished. I'll try to innocently confirm and send him the Cometic FAQ about the 50 RA but this is not exactly his first time building a big power motor with an MLS gasket. I don't want to be like this one douchebag I know who drops his car off to get serviced and tells the mechanic that the Bentley is in the back seat if he needs any torque specs. I'd probably reply to that with "fuck you, do it yourself".

[milKt]

I don't want to be like this one douchebag I know who drops his car off to get serviced and tells the mechanic that the Bentley is in the back seat if he needs any torque specs. I'd probably reply to that with "fuck you, do it yourself".

:rofl:

eXACTLY.
When I brought my Eagles to my local machinist I began to explain to him how they may be out of BMW spec.
I started to give him some numbers to look for and he was just staring at me as if he was waiting for me to stop talking.
Awkward. :(

He then said, "Yeah, I have the specs. I'll let you know by tomorrow."

Specs are what machinists/builder do.

[Julz69]

:rofl:

eXACTLY.
When I brought my Eagles to my local machinist I began to explain to him how they may be out of BMW spec.
I started to give him some numbers to look for and he was just staring at me as if he was waiting for me to stop talking.
Awkward. :(

He then said, "Yeah, I have the specs. I'll let you know by tomorrow."

Specs are what machinists/builder do.

Hopefully correctly. Alot of immitators out there...

[TheJuggernaut]

Talked to my builder again, he still said that in his opinion and experience, attaining the actual Cometic figure is really not that important but I sound like I want it for peace of mind so that's what he'll do.

I dig this guy more and more every time I see or talk to him. I know a lot of guys in the business who would have told me that if I know how to do their job better, to come get my shit and do it.

[turbo325ii]

Talked to my builder again, he still said that in his opinion and experience, attaining the actual Cometic figure is really not that important but I sound like I want it for peace of mind so that's what he'll do.

I dig this guy more and more every time I see or talk to him. I know a lot of guys in the business who would have told me that if I know how to do their job better, to come get my shit and do it.

Yeah, he sounds like a cool dude. I think pretty much the whole reason for such a smooth surface is so that upon expansion/ contraction the gasket is going to move... And when it does, if the surface is rough is can/will scrub the Viton off the gasket and cause leaks..

But again, old experts have their way of doing things, and if they work, they work.

If the block is torque plate bored, and is "square", then maybe this can be more important than the surface finish.

Regardless.... :buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

No FI updates yet, still waiting on the engine. Hoping to hear soon about taking pics of machined head/block.

For now, grinding through the tedious work that needs doing. Once some plumbing bits come in, going to start installing my fuel system. For now, replumbed the brakes with all new lines and a prop valve. Need to weld on some studs to mount it still. I might even clean the engine bay but there's still so much to do.

Hurts my fingers just looking at this again:

http://i.imgur.com/Y30e3.jpg

Adapted the OE DME bracket to hold VEMS finally (couldn't bring myself to drill the case of my shiny new box before):

http://i.imgur.com/lGuXC.jpg

Pulled the dash, removed the heater, cleaned up some wiring (very minor as opposed to what most guys whine about in BMW racecar builds, I found the wiring to be very sparse as is). Removed the steering lock and ignition switch.

http://i.imgur.com/cTm7X.jpg

Gonna make a new panel for the radio hole to cover the whole thing. GOing to have my LCD and emerg button like before up top, but add: ignition switch, start button, fuel prepump switch, main fuel pump switch, fan override (either off/high or even off/normal/high):

http://i.imgur.com/DS5lT.jpg

Disassembled the front end for the intercooler which should be here next week:

http://i.imgur.com/NgOfO.jpg

[TheJuggernaut]

Engine still being built. I knew it would take a long time but starting to get a bit antsy. Would at least like to see it back from the machine shops. I know progress is being made since they recently asked me about the engine and boost specs, and followed up saying they will port the exhaust since it's tiny but intake is fine.

But I got some FI-related updates so why not...

Got me an intercooler. Big sumbitch but it's gonna fit, I found a way. Thank God for diving boards and the huge iS airdam. To clear the pusher radiator fan I'll need to angle it but that's ok. 22x12x4.5" core, 3" pipes. I really like the end-tank design. Has built in bosses for mounting and they are segregated - there's a divider going from the middle of the nozzle down the long end of the tank, ensuring half the flow goes to half the core.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TY_-4VMQXVI/AAAAAAAABq4/ULhZBQELODE/192.jpg

Finished removing the heater core, rewired the ignition to push-button, built new dash panels and upholstered in vynil, turned out very nice! Will need to add the boost and fuel pressure gauges later.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TY_-5mgpKWI/AAAAAAAABq4/6nj8ti2HVDY/196.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TY_-6HTevjI/AAAAAAAABq4/X8dYE2BR0Yc/197.jpg

Got my fuel setup figured out. This week I'm gonna mount it in the spare tire well and wire it. Ruined two hose ends but finally learned a reliable way to assemble these damn teflon hoses. Will bend new alu hard lines for fuel supply/return, then braided teflon lines from the pump to hard line, then to the rail, and from rail to hard line, then to swirl pot. The two in-tank stock transfer pumps will feed the swirl pot through teflon lines, then the top -8 overflow back into the tank.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TY_-6Zc2S7I/AAAAAAAABq4/psnamF_p1tE/198.jpg

Mounted the mcoupe rear end, test-fitted the new 65L tank - had to chop out the old outboard fuel pump brackets to make it fit.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TY_-64VplaI/AAAAAAAABq4/md-T7-UrCRk/199.jpg

I never thought I'd be so proud to have something hot purple on my car:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TZILq6pMi_I/AAAAAAAABq8/mRg4_d-N7uk/s800/1000000025.JPG

[Friedman]

Nice Intercooler :buttrock

its 24-12-4.5 not 22 :evil2

[TheJuggernaut]

According to Treadstone the core is 22, overall 30".

[boosted 528]

E85?

[TheJuggernaut]

E85?

Not out of the question, the fuel system will support it but the idea of relying on pump gas being to-spec bugs me, especially since I can get locally brewed 110 unleaded for 610/55gal.

[TheJuggernaut]

I heart diving boards.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TZ29NI4DWhI/AAAAAAAABsM/76ND_YYMGlM/s800/1000000028.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/TZ29o7v_qyI/AAAAAAAABsc/5ve4VvuRd9k/s800/1000000029.JPG

[TheJuggernaut]

Engine build is progressing very slowly. Well, let me clarify - the machine work. Supposedly it's almost done. The builder says the head looks awesome, nicely ported. Should have it back this week or the next.

But in the mean time, I've made some progress that I'm proud of. Probably remedial stuff to many guys here but running my own fuel lines and all new brake lines was pretty scary. Not gonna lie, I did not have much faith since it was my first time. But you can't learn until you try.

I'd like to give credit to dcvee here for the inspiration. I was not very comfortable with running soft lines all the way and a few bundles of 20 ft teflon Aeroquip hose adds up to a raping.

Can't see it too well but I also used the Adel clamps to separate and space the lines in areas where they are free-air (there's one such arrangement in the bottom right of the pic, but can't really see anything - basically an Adel clamp on each, bolted together).

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/Tb4GwbzwAkI/AAAAAAAABt8/o-NEsxk1E_A/s640/1000000038.JPG

Next step, make the Aeroquip teflon softlines and secure the pump/surge tank/plate.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/Tb4GpIe-yoI/AAAAAAAABt4/n3on2_nZBDU/s512/1000000037.JPG

My car came debadged from the factory. Going to fix that.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/_AzbQNlJ05Fc/Tbra-l0ZHWI/AAAAAAAABto/W1O_a8QNvyQ/s640/1000000036.PNG

Also got my aluminum engine mounts and trans mount cups from AKG. Also got their Stage 2 shifter. Wife caught me in this unflattering position but not being one to pass up the opportunity to embarrass myself, here it is:

http://i.imgur.com/rycCd.jpg

[MrBlonde]

..
Wife caught me in this unflattering position but not being one to pass up the opportunity to embarrass myself, here it is:
..

Gold!

[good & tight]

lol at the last pic.! Have you thought about cutting the front bumper up and across for more air flow over IC?

[TheJuggernaut]

LOL glad to amuse


Have you thought about cutting the front bumper up and across for more air flow over IC?

Yeah, but one thing I'm kinda looking forward to is that other than having some fat feet, this car is going to look like an ordinary diving board E30 with an iS airdam. But I'll keep an eye on the IATs and if they're high I'll get sawzall happy.

[milKt]

Dude, I can see some leg skin.
You KNOW where I was lookin'!!!!

Rod in hand, mouth open and strong. :alright

[TheJuggernaut]

Dude, I can see some leg skin.
You KNOW where I was lookin'!!!!

Rod in hand, mouth open and strong. :alright

Dude I'm a powerlifter, my youtube channel gets weekly friend requests from bear lovers (do NOT google that if you don't already know). Admire away.

[milKt]

:rofl:

[TheJuggernaut]

Alrighty, guess I should dust this thing off. I was hoping to wait until the engine was finished, alas... but there is significant progress with it

Finished the fuel system:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PDMKqcuxxmk/Tf0WM4CC5lI/AAAAAAAAB6Q/oEj5zaGhQB4/11%25252010-12-19%252520PM.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FriI1QMSZNU/TfPPG8AMtUI/AAAAAAAAB4g/kIN0gIH8m6I/s640/1000000074.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Qu1tQaVU458/TfPPCDu7LAI/AAAAAAAAB4c/EoWzpLDPrZw/s640/1000000072.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-Fi08GmkueVs/TfQdzBgxEwI/AAAAAAAAB44/wGNwx4QhCgg/s640/1000000077.JPG

And the dash (just need to run the main pump relay wire and tuck the wiring)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-NK6GobqlKQ0/Tdxi_JkWf7I/AAAAAAAAB2o/MhBBD7YWoNc/s640/IMG_6850.JPG

Got the tires from my buddy, 275/40/17. Front will fit easy, rear, not so much. Might still try to hammer further but I can probably live with it like this for now until I do the fender flares with some proper meat, maybe raise the ride height a bit:

(raising the car off the jackstands, fully compressed, lowest possible height)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-aJZE0qY5xKQ/TeqVlbayE7I/AAAAAAAAB3k/4U7DW6kDkOs/s640/1000000070.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-c6yAB0vicgM/TeqVp_vQkGI/AAAAAAAAB3o/U24ndBLyFew/s512/1000000071.JPG

Block and head machining done. Those who have followed this in private know what an ordeal it's been waiting to see this stuff finished (mainly the porting/head work by John Rossiter)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ObSIjUoEQ1s/TdWvqeYABiI/AAAAAAAAB0g/4b-bjyaO4O4/s512/IMG_6796.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-fLi2xBC1pc8/TdWv3cW6DKI/AAAAAAAAB0o/ook4L07AbiA/s512/IMG_6797.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8basKb0oNFw/TdWv8TBMZdI/AAAAAAAAB0w/jhr8bqFgkiM/s640/IMG_6799.JPG

Main studs upgraded to 11mm (vs stock size)

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-t-N6sEXfXqg/TdWvs08ObBI/AAAAAAAAB0k/govzR_P4Q9w/s640/IMG_6795.JPG

Head studs upgraded to 12mm RB26 (vs stock size)

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-siIN73ZKghs/TdWv4XFygAI/AAAAAAAAB0s/24i54AYB57o/s640/IMG_6794.JPG

Head work is so nice, pictures don't do the ports justice. The guy said this is the nicest condition BMW head he's ever seen. He flow tested it too, said it was exceptional (I can see if I can get #s for anyone interested)

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d7I0HmHLo1U/Tf0YbWQPEMI/AAAAAAAAB6o/NFxJKY1Zfig/s512/IMG_6865.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-ssYeRXdXupM/Tf0YTD8JdjI/AAAAAAAAB6k/Faq5Bt9vElY/s640/IMG_6866.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-jrLE8NwU5F8/Tf0Yfg3lbgI/AAAAAAAAB6s/hiyCjmdN87k/s640/IMG_6869.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-2mDrPBngoS8/Tf0YQS4p2zI/AAAAAAAAB6g/4K5d2CKC5ag/s640/IMG_6868.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-KvSTIYI9bjc/Tf0Ymk2Z0EI/AAAAAAAAB6w/jTbxBVaPJ8A/s640/IMG_6871.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-qY0TAtnIc0I/Tf0YrlrhQ3I/AAAAAAAAB60/h4axXHQY83Y/s640/IMG_6872.JPG

They reamed out the holes with the oil passages:

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-Drjmtzik3r4/Tf0Y3vgs2UI/AAAAAAAAB64/DviuQWV_1fM/s640/IMG_6874.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-t5Tf1VNBbK8/Tf0Y5HuouiI/AAAAAAAAB68/8J-97FMdrTI/s640/IMG_6876.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-D6EBVTyppP4/Tf0Y6WCTbTI/AAAAAAAAB7A/sN58emmC4Q8/s640/IMG_6877.JPG

That's it for now... hopefully I'll see it assembled in a few weeks, I'm pretty much ready to install it.

[turbo325ii]

Great stuff man! Cant wait to see the dyno curves with the head porting. :)

[TheJuggernaut]

Great stuff man! Cant wait to see the dyno curves with the head porting. :)

Thanks dude! At this point I'd be happy to see it move under its own power, anything beyond that being bonus :(

[milKt]

WOW!!!!!!!!!

You sure got a purty head.
Inconel exh valves? 1mm Oversize too?

combustible de camping? Where do you reside? IYDMMA

[turbo325ii]

Thanks dude! At this point I'd be happy to see it move under its own power, anything beyond that being bonus :(

:rofl.... so true! I've been there man! You will get her all finished up nice!

[TheJuggernaut]

WOW!!!!!!!!!

You sure got a purty head.
Inconel exh valves? 1mm Oversize too?

combustible de camping? Where do you reside? IYDMMA

LOL dirty, I just saw the movie for the first time last week.

Yessir.

I reside in the land of bagged milk. Toronto area.

[milKt]

RODL

The movie has been waiting for you since 1972. Thanks for finally visiting her.

[bubela]

Wow.. It just doesn't end. This is intense D.

[TheJuggernaut]

Engine builder told me I'll have my engine next week (Monday). I giggled to myself and decided to scroll up the SMS history...

http://i.imgur.com/JaX8Z.png

[turbo325ii]

That's why you build it yourself. No waiting on anybody! Except machine shop of course. Is that who your still waiting on?

[TheJuggernaut]

That's why you build it yourself. No waiting on anybody! Except machine shop of course. Is that who your still waiting on?

See the date...

He told me that he'll drop it off on Monday (ie next week), which made me remember that text.

Yeah building myself would be nice but I'm not learning how to build engines with something like this. This guy is really special. Too bad he takes forever. Granted it's a hobby business (his primary occupation is professional engineering for someone else), and he barely has time to sleep between everything he needs to do but... damn. All I've got left now is a sense of humor about it all. I don't expect next Monday to come true.

[Fender13Bender]

Who's the builder?

[TheJuggernaut]

He's a local guy here in the Toronto area. I don't want to name him until the engine produces results cause right now it wouldn't be a fair rap.

The thing is that other than the asinine delay, I would choose him again in the blink of an eye for a serious project like this. For one, his delays aren't without perfectly good reasons and he never tried to hide from me (which other racing shops in my area are known for - when they have various delays, usually caused by guys with more money than you showing up, they stop answering the phone when you call).

Also the way he's approached this build has been nothing short of confidence inspiring. When he got to the fasteners, he said he doesn't want to use the stock sized ARPs. When I waffled, he said that he'll do it if I insist but he doesn't want his name mentioned with this motor in that case. I caved, he installed 12mm head studs and 11mm mains. I didn't know much about BMW FI builds at the time but having observed the endless HG issues these motors have under boost, it seems like he saved me a fistfull of aggravation down the line.

Another example is I'm going to have him do the exhaust and to help my budget, I asked his opinion on aluminized steel. He said he won't use anything but stainless and if I can't swing it, he'll eat the difference...

I think that represents one of the important differences between him and others - it's not his bread and butter. While this causes unforseen delays, it also gives him the freedom to be uncompromising. He plans to make it fulltime when he retires but for now, he picks and chooses projects. I've heard him pick up the phone and turn down work he didn't think was cool.

Anyway, Monday or not, I'm sure it'll be done somewhat soon, and it'll be forgive and forget.

In the mean time, I've upgraded the turbo.

New GT4094r left, previous 35r right.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-V2ncj4jB7p0/TnzoJb2dl4I/AAAAAAAACP8/2sIR2DC7U4s/s640/IMG_0438.JPG

New Otisfold on the way, can't wait, so pretty!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-L7PlGrhP9xE/TrbdfcO8K2I/AAAAAAAACUQ/7XSxEhtaL-8/s640/new-manifold-4.jpg

And picking up my racelogic this Friday, I needed more challenge for the winter :P

[milKt]

New Panafold on the way, can't wait, so pretty!


fixed


and with 4094 spacecraft propulsion installed,
the you may become the God of a far off Planet sooner than others.

[MikeE36]

And picking up my racelogic this Friday, I needed more challenge for the winter :P

You've got this backwards. The challenge is driving this thing without racelogic. :D

-Mike

[TheJuggernaut]

fixed


and with 4094 spacecraft propulsion installed,
the you may become the God of a far off Planet sooner than others.

lol I like that. Yeah should be something. Even as a pile of parts it's impressive.


You've got this backwards. The challenge is driving this thing without racelogic. :D

-Mike

hehe that assumes I will actually get to drive it again one day

[Tchao]

Why not a split pulse manifold? I don't get it...

[Tchao]

Why not a split pulse manifold? I don't get it...

[BavarianLove]

That is just a sick setup you got goin there Jugg!

[turbo325ii]

Why the switch to the 4094? Just curious. I thought this was more of a track car?

[BavarianLove]

He wants raping top end brutal overtaking power

[TheJuggernaut]

Why not a split pulse manifold? I don't get it...

Couldn't be bothered with the extra cost and complexity of the manifold, downpipe and twin wastegates for whatever minimal practical gains (if any).


That is just a sick setup you got goin there Jugg!

Thanks dude!


Why the switch to the 4094? Just curious. I thought this was more of a track car?

Quite a few reasons actually. This graph summarizes many of them nicely:

http://i.imgur.com/l4S4b.jpg

I've long since been worried that the 35r is really undersized for the 3.2 at these power levels and that finally convinced me. To make the same power with the 35r, you have to cram so much air to overcome the restrictiveness of the turbo that you end up with engine busting cylinder pressures down low and then fall off like a truck motor. And it costs no difference in spool (if you interpolate the 40r to the same boost, yeah it would be about 300rpm behind, but for the same power, it needs less boost and it hits that at almost the same time as the 35r hits its).

So I get the same or more power, for less engine stress and heat.

The only possible drawback is that it is quite a bit heavier than the 35r, and all the weight is being added at the front up high. But this isn't F1 and I'm no Schumacher. I've driven all kinds of things on the track (including a rental Cobalt) and I've learned that while all the theory about car balance and other setup are true, at the end of the day, as long as it's not unsafe, a car is a car and driving is driving. So as long as you're not in it for big prize money, it's all great fun (well if it has good power, grip and brakes, funner still).

A more realistic worry about it then is the stress on the manifold. I've been mulling over a way to brace it. I'm thinking to create a gantry from some of the unused motor mount bosses on the block, and via heim joint, either prop up or hang the compressor off of it, like so:

http://i.imgur.com/QXltT.jpg

[Colby Colbs]

If you hang it it will be wayy easier to install remove. Also your not building your manni but that's how I will start mine. Free hanging up there! The main reason is because I'm using 16GA 321SS and don't want it to crack from stress. The one I'm doing is on a E30 M3 build for a member on here, it will use possibly GT(X)4088, with or without the x depends on what is costs.

We will build twin scroll rape, will you be running the split housing on an open collector?

[TheJuggernaut]

If you hang it it will be wayy easier to install remove. Also your not building your manni but that's how I will start mine. Free hanging up there! The main reason is because I'm using 16GA 321SS and don't want it to crack from stress. The one I'm doing is on a E30 M3 build for a member on here, it will use possibly GT(X)4088, with or without the x depends on what is costs.

Yeah, Otis warranties these for life against cracks but I wouldn't hold him to that warranty without bracing a 40r in an application that will see 1.2+ lateral Gs.


We will build twin scroll rape, will you be running the split housing on an open collector?

Yup

[5mall5nail5]

D - be a bawce. Get an extra T4 flange and make a mount plate. The big turbo boys do it on V8s and such. They have a rigid mounted flange supported by round bar/bracing/whatever. The manifold meets the braced flange from the one side and the turbo the other.

Such as:

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS1y12kIgyF0RifevX8vMeLTuPb9G3ER fzFUA_CCfW3ZDPMX0rRyeKTmjXGXw

http://www.amarilloracers.com/brant/Indy/mount1.jpg


etc

[TheJuggernaut]

Bracing the flange is definitely another solution I'm also considering. I was originally thinking in that direction but the guys mentoring me in building a turbo racer sent me that pic of what they did. I guess I could even do both.

[5mall5nail5]

Bracing the flange is definitely another solution I'm also considering. I was originally thinking in that direction but the guys mentoring me in building a turbo racer sent me that pic of what they did. I guess I could even do both.

I feel like a heim joint is not ideal only because its so flexible itself. I definitely think you're best going rigid mount. The heim joint would need to be preloaded and such just right. It's probably easier to bolt it all together and get it fitted up, then fabricating your mount. Like, if you did the T4 flange spacer just bolt the turbo up to the manifold with the spacer between and weld up your bracing. You could do all sorts of stuff I think you'll be ok.

[Colby Colbs]

Then you have two possible leak points... The only way id do that is if I was machining the flanges to be gasketless. Theres so many ways to do this that seems to be at the bottom of my personal list.

Im sure youll find a great solution!
Also, please change your hott side. Since its a track car, plus you seem to do things right, that seems to not fit AT ALL! I get the comment about not going twinscroll and your reasoning there is right on! This, not so much.

[TheJuggernaut]

I feel like a heim joint is not ideal only because its so flexible itself. I definitely think you're best going rigid mount. The heim joint would need to be preloaded and such just right. It's probably easier to bolt it all together and get it fitted up, then fabricating your mount. Like, if you did the T4 flange spacer just bolt the turbo up to the manifold with the spacer between and weld up your bracing. You could do all sorts of stuff I think you'll be ok.

Yeah the heim joint way would only provide support in one vector. Like Colby says I'm not keen on doing a sandwich but braces from the block to the flange is something I'm tossing around. Also since I'm using solid mounts, bracing to the chassis is also an option.


Then you have two possible leak points... The only way id do that is if I was machining the flanges to be gasketless. Theres so many ways to do this that seems to be at the bottom of my personal list.

Im sure youll find a great solution!
Also, please change your hott side. Since its a track car, plus you seem to do things right, that seems to not fit AT ALL! I get the comment about not going twinscroll and your reasoning there is right on! This, not so much.

Thanks for the suggestion but unless it really proves bad in practice, the turbo stays as is.

EDIT: Just realized I'm not clear on what you mean. Do you mean change T4 twin housing to T4 open? That's not available.

[black bnr32]

one more thing to consider might be expansion from heat. maybe try to plan it so the brace expands the same amount as the manifold

[5mall5nail5]

I wouldn't worry about leaks - I have yet to have any issue. So long as your collector is welded without warping you won't have any issues. Big big turbo guys run the supported flange all the time. I would consider doing it myself if I had to redo anything.

[TheJuggernaut]

one more thing to consider might be expansion from heat. maybe try to plan it so the brace expands the same amount as the manifold

Yeah I've thought about this too, it's a point in favor of the heim joint hanger, since it would be less binding.


I wouldn't worry about leaks - I have yet to have any issue. So long as your collector is welded without warping you won't have any issues. Big big turbo guys run the supported flange all the time. I would consider doing it myself if I had to redo anything.

Yeah if I go that route I'll just use a gasket on both sides. I'm picturing a pretty cool setup, bolted to the block, up to the sandwich plate, and then down to the chassis...

[5mall5nail5]

Yeah if I go that route I'll just use a gasket on both sides. I'm picturing a pretty cool setup, bolted to the block, up to the sandwich plate, and then down to the chassis...

Have you got 100% solid mounts? I saw a setup using a motorplate on a drag build that had a like... "sub frame" for the turbo. It went between the two frame rails and allowed the owner to switch between a single turbo to twins by simply adding/removing this drop in frame piece. Same idea with your setup potentially except you wouldn't have a 2nd setup to swap in.

[TheJuggernaut]

Have you got 100% solid mounts? I saw a setup using a motorplate on a drag build that had a like... "sub frame" for the turbo. It went between the two frame rails and allowed the owner to switch between a single turbo to twins by simply adding/removing this drop in frame piece. Same idea with your setup potentially except you wouldn't have a 2nd setup to swap in.

Yup, solid alu, requirement of the AKG shifter.

[wazzu70]

Nice build! I love those pistons. Nice work on the VEMS mounting. I should do something similar. I was thinking of making a mount without drilling the case....but whatever.

Did your unit come with the SD card slot and serial connector mounted like that?

[TheJuggernaut]

Nice build! I love those pistons. Nice work on the VEMS mounting. I should do something similar. I was thinking of making a mount without drilling the case....but whatever.

Thanks man! Yeah when I first got it there was no way I could bring myself to get the drill out - it was like cutting fender flares into your new car you just drove home off the lot. But after a while the mount I made bugged me more than drilling holes :)


Did your unit come with the SD card slot and serial connector mounted like that?

Yup, that's how it came. Are they doing it differently now?

[wazzu70]

I looked at the VEMS site last night. I just didn't order with those options.

I like them though so I will just add them in :)


Agree on the case. Ive had the unit for a while and the newness has worn off. Time to drill!

[Colby Colbs]

You have a split pulse turbo going on a open collector, yes it is NOT A GOOD IDEA!
I see you like efficency, kiss responce gooooooood bye, as well as power output!

Jon, with your mind, I'm sure you could come up with something better! Not everything carrys over to us BMW guys, get creative dude!

[TheJuggernaut]

You have a split pulse turbo going on a open collector, yes it is NOT A GOOD IDEA!
I see you like efficency, kiss responce gooooooood bye, as well as power output!

Fair enough. I disagree.

Got to see my dingy today... next week's delivery (prolly not Monday but sometime next week) actually looks like it could happen. Decided we'll go with Ford Red for the block to match the car, coil cover and fuel rail (should look like zinno):

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-eNiITtQA1HY/Tr2flZwt4tI/AAAAAAAACVs/HrfMWPkAnSs/s512/IMAGE_1000000183.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-M61Pzz6XFpk/Tr2fqjfYyWI/AAAAAAAACV0/yzbpngGTGic/s512/IMAGE_1000000184.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-WntrA80_N-U/Tr2fv2gB8cI/AAAAAAAACWg/fVJh6fTNU0I/s640/IMAGE_1000000185.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-r__NJLpR1vA/Tr2f0P1y5pI/AAAAAAAACWE/kY2Aoz1dk5w/s640/IMAGE_1000000186.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-cr0hn7-PWfI/Tr2f5XERX8I/AAAAAAAACWM/y8MXnpIK9WQ/s640/IMAGE_1000000187.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ig-L_JcrkLA/Tr2f9lVueXI/AAAAAAAACWU/98R6yVIkAFg/s512/IMAGE_1000000188.JPG

Also a few other additions arrived:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rLclEqAGQnk/Tr2op8zCMVI/AAAAAAAACWk/sHFz7P5e6d8/s512/IMAGE_1000000191.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B3aeS6KYwmg/Tr2pnN19CvI/AAAAAAAACW4/JhlrKmCRxYI/s640/IMAGE_1000000192.JPG

[bubela]

Nice dingy, dude D. I hope for you many horsepressures.

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks man :)

[Colby Colbs]

It would be a simpe hot side cover swap, it just unbolts!! Do your homework on this one, dont take my word for it. Do as you will, shit id even buy the hot side so it wouldnt cost a thing.

I know that if you must stick with that hotside cover knifedging the ports at the flange helps but the way the manifold is designed going with a regular open hot side cover would yeild the best results. It really distubs the flow/transfer and won't be close to equal pressure at the entry to the wheel. That's where gains in twinscroll are had due to and even better feed of pulses thus increasing responce...

[TheJuggernaut]

If you buy and trade me a 1.06ar t4 housing for the 4094r (which probably don't exist), sure. But like I said, I appreciate your concern but I don't think it will matter much. There are several cars here which run divided 4094s. The dyno plot I linked a few posts ago shows SM3's divided 4094 on an undivided manifold, spooling 300rpm slower than a 35r. If that's gooooooooodbye response to you, that's fine. I disagree. Knife edging the divider is a good idea though, something I've been considering myself.

[good & tight]

If you buy and trade me a 1.06ar t4 housing for the 4094r (which probably don't exist), sure. But like I said, I appreciate your concern but I don't think it will matter much. There are several cars here which run divided 4094s. The dyno plot I linked a few posts ago shows SM3's divided 4094 on an undivided manifold, spooling 300rpm slower than a 35r. If that's gooooooooodbye response to you, that's fine. I disagree. Knife edging the divider is a good idea though, something I've been considering myself.

Ryan "futureroadracer" is running a 4094 T4 divided on one of my open collector manifolds with good results. I think he mentioned boost comes on around 3k or sooner.

I'm running an open collector with a divided HX40 and boost response is right at 3k. Oh and no turbo braces either, manifold made from 16 gauge header pipe, no issues.:lol On the track I don't think it will make a difference, not unless were splitting hairs here.

[Colby Colbs]

My experience is coming from a Evo 2.0L with a gt35r that was divided. On low boost 14 psi it was fine but we had major issue going upward of 30psi. Ended up getting a 6262 built to my liking and was great since. Car made 600++rwhp after that with ease at around 29psi. Gt35r whent on a kids old 1 g around here and no issues getting it to hold and make power at the same 29psi. It also shatter the tcase after wards...

Sometimes I've been know to spilt hairs otis...

[TheJuggernaut]

More Panafold awesomeness! The guy is a cybernetic organism, living tissue over a metal endoskeleton. A learning computer. It absolutely will not stop. Ever. Until the manifold is done.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-A2tVQ-ohevc/Tr_-DPqW4KI/AAAAAAAACXs/KucP-YjXMeE/s640/new-manifold-5.jpg

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RvChQD069LE/TsAfjBxtWII/AAAAAAAACZk/zsk8pl80Z54/s640/IMAGE_1000000195.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-_mHPyjMuR6I/TsBa8qBtk6I/AAAAAAAACZs/mTRKT13Y0VM/s640/new-manifold-7.jpg

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Z84uaV9P9K4/TsBa9Ddu9hI/AAAAAAAACZw/5Kbt2EQCpsE/s640/new-manifold-8.jpg

[djborya]

Dang Otis that thing looks good!
B.

[milKt]

More Panafold awesomeness!


There is NO Reckoning. No quarter.

[Colby Colbs]

Sure is pretty

[TheJuggernaut]

Should have my engine today...

Got the pre and post porting head flowbench figures... damn maybe this will be worth the wait and epic budget blowout afterall:

unported

http://i.imgur.com/IkVz0.jpg

ported

http://i.imgur.com/HQfia.jpg

[milKt]

Congrats on the corrected numbers.

[TheJuggernaut]

At 11PM last night, it became clear that the "late Friday" delivery wasn't happening. So I got out of bed and drove over to help assemble.

Sure enough, next to nothing had been done. Started by helping install the trays.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6qSMybXyGPw/TsfGHYaII6I/AAAAAAAACac/XSlFps8DVuw/s512/IMAGE_1000000204.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-sb0ceqeCaXE/TsfGLsuJBfI/AAAAAAAACak/64JlxgSi3AA/s512/IMAGE_1000000206.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-uZLPbUsBgu4/TsfGQcuLvkI/AAAAAAAACas/r3RX0zE_j-4/s512/IMAGE_1000000208.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-YFPWXR8hf24/TsfGUmXIhPI/AAAAAAAACa0/7P6aLMxUwjE/s512/IMAGE_1000000209.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-eZytL-JqFkc/TsfGZFpmAiI/AAAAAAAACa8/GhEk4Clp05k/s512/IMAGE_1000000210.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-IC6-GW4KtO4/TsfGdEBuN7I/AAAAAAAACbE/iZ839-X2_XE/s512/IMAGE_1000000212.JPG

This is where it became clear that I wasn't going home with it. He got the wrong cam securing tool (for M60) so couldn't time the cams and install VANOS. Going to be on it first thing today.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JhNiw-gRiGY/TsfGnTtRiAI/AAAAAAAACbU/-tWZCXP9Ox4/s512/IMAGE_1000000214.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-W1CjFykh-F0/TsfGsDqSEsI/AAAAAAAACbc/MSTQidxst7w/s512/IMAGE_1000000216.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-iEOdtM7XbUY/TsfGxFIJCJI/AAAAAAAACbk/lrfz2DKb-Rw/s512/IMAGE_1000000217.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AeVrzypA1Mk/TsfG112Zp8I/AAAAAAAACbs/RTCDuRvdBno/s512/IMAGE_1000000218.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-GX6gQfrSAqY/TsfG7P2VMKI/AAAAAAAACb0/TcS0f-sXn58/s512/IMAGE_1000000219.JPG

Packed it in at 5 fucking AM. Pretty much done.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-JKI6VJclUoo/TsfHASsV66I/AAAAAAAACb8/DOSt4NAffhs/s512/IMAGE_1000000220.JPG

[milKt]

Those ports look yummy clean.

Time takes time.
haste makes waste.

I spy some ARP mains peekin' dare.

[BavarianLove]

Nice stuff their man!

[TheJuggernaut]

Words... should have sent a poet :'( cue milkt

IT'S HOME

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-IJOtu55wRtQ/Tsgh9L2bkfI/AAAAAAAACc0/DssnZzWQm6o/s512/IMAGE_1000000223.JPG

K now just hop inside...

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-7_kSkaL2Ylk/TsgiUny10wI/AAAAAAAACdc/iOdjNHfyTzU/s512/IMAGE_1000000228.JPG

It's actually still not finished. He said he was missing the cam holding blocks, I got him those today from a buddy. But then turned out he also needed the cam turning wrench... and I couldn't get him that today. But that was enough to finish up everything but installing the VANOS, which he'll do monday evening at my place. At least now I can continue with the build.

[bubela]

Dude.. it's all down hill from here! Looking good BIM BIM
Do work.

[TheJuggernaut]

Done doin work for today. Well no I probably will do more tonight. But been working on the motor and whipping him into gear since 11pm last night, with 3 hrs sleep inbetween.

[milKt]

Yeah,
work is for chumps. Be done.

Sit back and watch some soccer (while dozing.)

[TheJuggernaut]

lol until I read the bit in brackets I was gonna say I'd rather piss glass. But yeah it's a nice lullaby

[milKt]

To each their own.
I suppose I'd pick the popular religion too.

Give her some wiping down for me too...
and a slap.

[good & tight]

There was a lot of love put into that manifold, especially the collector.
Good to see the engine within close proximity of the car.

[TheJuggernaut]

What the... how did you know how much love I put into the collector? I mean, thanks for making the collector have no sharp edges.

[milKt]

Rodl

[djborya]

That looks like a carbon copy of my mani!!!!!!YESSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
B.

[TheJuggernaut]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dsafqq6RWBI/TssNAl6S2gI/AAAAAAAACew/Y5XjiVfJOcM/s640/IMAGE_1000000236.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6JrQnY6x2wI/TssM3EgoOqI/AAAAAAAACfM/L7nvvLf0RaA/s640/IMAGE_1000000233.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wROpIRc8jb8/TssM8cXssjI/AAAAAAAACeo/wgo6gk4Q8FM/s640/IMAGE_1000000234.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--9bH51d59z4/TssNFVXcy_I/AAAAAAAACe4/h5J1qY3_xs4/s640/IMAGE_1000000237.JPG]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-gvw2oLLjGRA/TssNK5Lte7I/AAAAAAAACfA/BDrt82AKLgY/s640/IMAGE_1000000243.JPG

[black bnr32]

looks like you can has 4x4!

[TheJuggernaut]

Yup, winter tires

[5mall5nail5]

You could easily put studs in those

[milKt]

hahahaha

[TheJuggernaut]

Almost ready to drop in. When I was looking for info on the VAC filter block, it was like it almost doesn't exist... plus the instructions are next to useless. I even called VAC. One guy said durr I dunno, let me get the guy who knows these to call you back. 3 hours later, I get a call, durr I dunno, let me mail you a document with instructions... it was the same useless leaflet that came with the fuckin thing. So I figured I'd take a few pics for anyone like me, looking to get one and/or install one:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-w4VF9Q1MVYU/Ts2qbS_ncsI/AAAAAAAACfU/D0EpKAIf6BM/s640/filter_block1.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KADA1f-2k1M/Ts2qeWePJRI/AAAAAAAACfk/fbBnAAJsBS0/s640/filter_block3.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-mMR0ze0yA2U/Ts2qcQjC1QI/AAAAAAAACfc/yi8Scp8bwn0/s640/filter_block2.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-zNUcBZ_pXDg/Ts2qpOyO0WI/AAAAAAAACfs/18TdeUSZRjg/s512/filter_block4.JPG

[e30polak]

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-dsafqq6RWBI/TssNAl6S2gI/AAAAAAAACew/Y5XjiVfJOcM/s640/IMAGE_1000000236.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6JrQnY6x2wI/TssM3EgoOqI/AAAAAAAACfM/L7nvvLf0RaA/s640/IMAGE_1000000233.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-wROpIRc8jb8/TssM8cXssjI/AAAAAAAACeo/wgo6gk4Q8FM/s640/IMAGE_1000000234.JPG



:eek:

[good & tight]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--9bH51d59z4/TssNFVXcy_I/AAAAAAAACe4/h5J1qY3_xs4/s640/IMAGE_1000000237.JPG]


How many mm is that steering wheel? Love the pic..:buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

It's a good size but needs more dish

[ramsing]

It's a good size but needs more dish

Is that the plate you used for Thanksgiving dinner? doesn't look big enough :nono

looking good D. I'm waiting for the startup vid :shifty

[TheJuggernaut]

Is that the plate you used for Thanksgiving dinner? doesn't look big enough :nono

looking good D. I'm waiting for the startup vid :shifty

LOL well who's to say how many of these plates I used..

Thanks man.

So...

http://i.imgur.com/ifbZi.png

Pics ended up too small but my fears were realized. When we added reinforcement to the subframe, we thickened the motor mount areas by 5/16", and since the mounts sit at an angle, this moved the studs in towards each other. And when I dropped the motor in, it wouldn't go.

But I had a friend make me solid trans mounts:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-zpEG00kjVoA/TtKsw6P8n9I/AAAAAAAACgc/lmcMnKBd2lY/s640/solid_trans_mounts.jpg

Who also milled down my motor mounts and...

IN.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-B6wwNNKWwmo/Ttb5n7StlNI/AAAAAAAAChc/14XVJErZcoo/s512/IMAGE_1000000252.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-TPUU_k4Pgis/Ttb5xF5iUjI/AAAAAAAAChs/aduW-DWSqnQ/s512/IMAGE_1000000254.JPG

Gotta love the under-manifold access with the VAC filter block.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6tZaD_ArquY/Ttb5r00yrJI/AAAAAAAAChk/aa3GU8mq48I/s640/IMAGE_1000000253.JPG

[5mall5nail5]

Thats cool - it gets much more crowded with the coolant hose and idle valve junkz

Right now you can change the starter from the front of the car lol

[TheJuggernaut]

What is this idle valve nonsense you speak? :P Plugged that with a 3/4" npt plug

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-MlbYYArXLDM/Tg9PKoBtOnI/AAAAAAAACKQ/sLDLP7sbigo/s512/1000000099.JPG

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-R0sYm5X2XyQ/Tg9PPhIuybI/AAAAAAAACKU/um1E_EvR2Sg/s512/1000000101.JPG

[5mall5nail5]

Haha sweet - I support this. Idle valves are lame. I've never run one and never had any issues even down to like 15F.

[TheJuggernaut]

Yeah, when I first put in the standalone, I didn't feel like tuning the ICV. I thought, this is a racecar, what do I care if I have an F1 idle... but then I propped the TB open and my car idles at a dead steady 950rpm... I mean shit that's what my M5 idled at stock. Just sounds like a stock production car with a rock solid idle.

[5mall5nail5]

Yeah, when I first put in the standalone, I didn't feel like tuning the ICV. I thought, this is a racecar, what do I care if I have an F1 idle... but then I propped the TB open and my car idles at a dead steady 950rpm... I mean shit that's what my M5 idled at stock. Just sounds like a stock production car with a rock solid idle.

Yah its the best and no surging and annoying crap.

[TheJuggernaut]

Put the engine in and after battling with the solid mounts to get them all lined up and bolted up, realized that I forgot to wrap the manifold. Tried to convince myself that I can live with it but... I couldn't. Spent 2 hours undoing those goddamn nuts 1/8th turn at a time with no access and then trying to fish the manifold out without pulling the motor off the mounts.

Got to wrapping today. First time doing it, pretty happy with how it turned out but man how annoying. A tip for anyone considering doing it for the first time - DO NOT GET THE COLORED SHIT, GET THE NATURAL FIBERGLASS COLOR. Once you wet it, the fucking dye gets everywhere like masquara from the streets of Hong Kong. Once it dries, I'll hit it with the silicone spray and I bought a stubby ratcheting 11mm and a swivel head ratcheting 7/16 (11 not avail) wrenches, hopefully the re-install won't be as anally violating.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-LYsRKFVBSqk/TtvpyTWMvUI/AAAAAAAACiA/YxHYSpZC1bY/s640/IMAGE_1000000255.JPG

[milKt]

Put the engine in and after battling with the solid mounts to get them all lined up and bolted up, realized that I forgot to wrap the manifold. Tried to convince myself that I can live with it but... I couldn't. Spent 2 hours undoing those goddamn nuts 1/8th turn at a time with no access and then trying to fish the manifold out without pulling the motor off the mounts.

Got to wrapping today. First time doing it, pretty happy with how it turned out but man how annoying. A tip for anyone considering doing it for the first time - DO NOT GET THE COLORED SHIT, GET THE NATURAL FIBERGLASS COLOR. Once you wet it, the fucking dye gets everywhere like masquara from the streets of Hong Kong. Once it dries, I'll hit it with the silicone spray and I bought a stubby ratcheting 11mm and a swivel head ratcheting 7/16 (11 not avail) wrenches, hopefully the re-install won't be as anally violating.



Yeah,
forgetting sh!t sucks bad. Then, as you said, I'd rationalize for an hour (or even a day) why It'll be OK the way it is. Then the next day, I throw some wrenches around the garage, have a cry and go through the hassle of pulling the sh!t apart and doing it the way I planned it.

Looks good man. Take your time, throw some wrenches, spit and cuss.

[GG///M3]

Yeah,
forgetting sh!t sucks bad. Then, as you said, I'd rationalize for an hour (or even a day) why It'll be OK the way it is. Then the next day, I throw some wrenches around the garage, have a cry and go through the hassle of pulling the sh!t apart and doing it the way I planned it.

Looks good man. Take your time, throw some wrenches, spit and cuss.

And maybe kill a kitten in the middle of the wrenches. That may also bring clarity. :stickoutt

[good & tight]

Nice job on the wrapping. It should slide in from the bottom fairly easy.

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks guys!


Nice job on the wrapping. It should slide in from the bottom fairly easy.

It might if I could lift the motor significantly without risking popping the engine off the mounts, making me do the aligning all over again. I lifted it just enough then had to navigate back and forth, up and down, first clear the studs then maneuver forward. Tomorrow I'm gonna chop that half inch lip on the frame rail and seam weld it for extra clearance.

[good & tight]

Thanks guys!



It might if I could lift the motor significantly without risking popping the engine off the mounts, making me do the aligning all over again. I lifted it just enough then had to navigate back and forth, up and down, first clear the studs then maneuver forward. Tomorrow I'm gonna chop that half inch lip on the frame rail and seam weld it for extra clearance.
You could just bang it down with a hammer also.

[TheJuggernaut]

You could just bang it down with a hammer also.

Yeah but then I couldn't brag to the watercooler gang the next day that I did more welding and custom fab on my racecar.

[Colby Colbs]

Burn that metal right!

[TheJuggernaut]

DONE. Freakin done. What a pain in the ass. Got an added bonus of raising the motor a few times to get the manifold in, the motor is now even happier on the mounts. Of course had to test-fit the tarbo. After some mild hammering, it's right at home!

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-5kfeXq8TBNo/Tt7R6LBh8EI/AAAAAAAACiI/kNuzfDQ7syw/s640/IMAGE_1000000259.JPG

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-skM0E0kwE-Y/Tt7R96U_xtI/AAAAAAAACiQ/F3U6WOdhD_k/s640/IMAGE_1000000260.JPG

[BavarianLove]

:boobies

[black bnr32]

that still a 35r?

[TheJuggernaut]

'Tis 4094r

[Bjkearns]

I am looking forward to watching this progress
so far so good

[milKt]

She sure looks pretty up top there...and very accessible, and easy to clock, and simple to remove, and easy to attach oil and coolant lines, and yeah

I love my bottom mount
repeat 10x

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

She sure looks pretty up top there...and very accessible, and easy to clock, and simple to remove, and easy to attach oil and coolant lines, and yeah

I love my bottom mount

I

Lol I couldn't tell.

[turbo325ii]

Balls man! I LOVE the ICV block off and the VAC oil filter delete kit whatever that is... I think those two items just made it on my next mod list! :buttrock

[milKt]

Lol I couldn't tell.

:embarrasm :(

[E30Alpina]

So whats the deal with the icv delete? Can someone elaborate? Is this something that can only be done on Standalone or can it be fine w/ a TRM blowthrough. Wouldnt mind getting rid of that vacumn leak hell under there.

[multiplex]

looking pretty sweet! mostly that nice valve cover cover you got there ;)

you may want to consider some gold foil on the engine bay near the turbo

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks guys! Been a loooooooong journey to this step. I thought I'd be where I am now last winter.



Balls man! I LOVE the ICV block off and the VAC oil filter delete kit whatever that is... I think those two items just made it on my next mod list! :buttrock

Yeah man for sure. I had a tear roll down when I realized I could stick like my whole forearm under the manifold if I wanted to - no damn filter bucket, ICV hoses.


looking pretty sweet! mostly that nice valve cover cover you got there ;)

Just wait till the fuel rail is on too, gonna look quite spiffy. Too bad the valve cover isn't green, would look quite festive.



you may want to consider some gold foil on the engine bay near the turbo

So I could be real bawce?

[ramsing]

if you wore a santa suit and drove it without the hood, it'll almost be like the real thing, except for massive powerslides and wheelspin!! :D :D

[wazzu70]

Yeah, when I first put in the standalone, I didn't feel like tuning the ICV. I thought, this is a racecar, what do I care if I have an F1 idle... but then I propped the TB open and my car idles at a dead steady 950rpm... I mean shit that's what my M5 idled at stock. Just sounds like a stock production car with a rock solid idle.

Are you using some sort of idle control such as spark cut?

[TheJuggernaut]

Are you using some sort of idle control such as spark cut?

Not sure what spark cut idle control is but no, I don't do anything for idle control other than propping the butterfly open.

[bubela]

Is there any progress on this, or do we just powerlift now?

..Yeah, that might be said with jealousy.

[TheJuggernaut]

Is there any progress on this, or do we just powerlift now?

..Yeah, that might be said with jealousy.

Remember when I came to your house and said I would never have sex with you, ever? Well, forget all that.

I didn't want to do an update without the engine having fired but I guess now I have to.

Been worried about fuel spillage with an open vent. There was nothing readily available I could use, so I built this puppy. Been meaning to get some practice with the spool gun. It's ugly but it's watertight. Tank vent goes into the left side, and on the other side is a tip-over ball valve, which will get a breather filter on it.

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RntBqLbpskM/Tu_eUVW5YKI/AAAAAAAACj0/iP0NuAxpfgU/s512/IMAGE_1000000268.JPG

Oil lines are finally done. Don't have any uptodate pics because it was so frustrating. It was going smoothly, the huge oil cooler just fit. Then I mounted up the wheels and where the oil filter mount cleared the 275s, with the 305s on 10" rims... not so much. Had to cut it off and move it, but same general idea.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-L1p0vi5O4n0/Tv9FCV4icyI/AAAAAAAACmA/xwbpBGklaGs/s640/IMAGE_1000000294.JPG

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H76Ww7A9fIw/Tv9E334LYRI/AAAAAAAACl4/Y2--r3Ys9-s/s640/IMAGE_1000000292.JPG

Speaking of the wheels, my experience with Fikse has been amazing. They earned a bad rap over the past few years for horrid delivery times but since Kodiak bought them, it's night and day. Plus they're Canadian so I bought domestic! The quality is... just damn, like jewellery

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ienF_CLoSlo/TwuFARi5LmI/AAAAAAAACqA/38gYrXiZ0-Q/s640/IMG_6944.JPG

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/377515_10150531951003287_515028286_8699677_6060722 86_n.jpg

This weekend, I start fitting them... going to cut the stock fenders and make an attempt at making a fender flare. First I'll make a frame out of 3/16" rod, and try to sheet it with metal after. I'm holding my breath that I think my plan will work, but if not, default to foam/fiberglass.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Ug6vZgMSZG0/TxH3Ajqn7jI/AAAAAAAACqM/6s7LVsDAOlE/s640/IMAGE_1000000315.JPG

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/404421_10150560973408287_515028286_8785826_1474564 91_n.jpg

Rough flare design:

http://i.imgur.com/7jd3L.jpg

I also hope to finish wiring the engine and do the fuel lines, so I can tow it to have the chargepipes and exhaust done... cause then it's time to fire it up.

Speaking of fire, I decided I'm going to try to make it work on E85. Boris sold me. I thought it's just 100 octane. So if I can get ridiculous knock resistance, cooler running, and cheaper than regular price (vs $11/gal for race gas with inferior det resistance), stupid not to...

[milKt]

Getting closer. You've still got a ton of work to do.
Chip away. Just chip away. Your car will be NO joke.

I would so chill out on a badass green leather sofa.

[TheJuggernaut]

Yeah, it's that stage right now where there's a lot of small, uninteresting work to do that COULD be finished in a few weeks but will take months because I've lost interest in it.

[milKt]

Yeah, it's that stage right now where there's a lot of small, uninteresting work to do that COULD be finished in a few weeks but will take months because I've lost interest in it.

I fvckin' hate that. :(

[wazzu70]

This is my favorite project on the forums here! Corn juice and Fiske just makes it even better!!

[TheJuggernaut]

Thanks dude, much appreciated! Hope I can deliver and make it work soon

[wazzu70]

Thanks dude, much appreciated! Hope I can deliver and make it work soon

No worries on that. A sloth just passed my project like its standing still! Taking forever.

[bubela]

You just need mud flaps.

What are the blue gloves on the left front fender for?..

[MikeE36]

Good luck getting those monsters to fit with the flares. (and I mean that sincerly.) They're a PITA, even in hackjob fiberglass :help Wheels look great!

-Mike

[Colby Colbs]

Hes making custom flares, wont need too much luck. Now if he was triming an off the shelf item then yeah fvck that! Thoes wheels are wayyy to wide for anything I've seen, store bought wise. Plus 1 for doing it in metal!

I think I hate you Juggernaut, Fikse wheels have been my all time dream wheel. Props to you!!

[MikeE36]

Hes making custom flares, wont need too much luck. Now if he was triming an off the shelf item then yeah fvck that! Thoes wheels are wayyy to wide for anything I've seen, store bought wise. Plus 1 for doing it in metal!

I think I hate you Juggernaut, Fikse wheels have been my all time dream wheel. Props to you!!

I know, I'm just looking at how big those tires are and considering suspension travel. It's difficult to maintain travel, not have rubbing, and have something that large clear. That's all :) I'm sure he has it under control

-Mike

[TheJuggernaut]

If only my car was progressing as well as my bench

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-L5VpHcZzs

Thanks guys! Yeah I tried to find aftermarket flares wide enough but like Colby says, nothing comes close for the rear.


Hes making custom flares, wont need too much luck. Now if he was triming an off the shelf item then yeah fvck that! Thoes wheels are wayyy to wide for anything I've seen, store bought wise. Plus 1 for doing it in metal!

Thanks man, I don't have your fab skills but I think I have a decent strategy to make them look alright. Maybe later when I get the car resprayed I can get a bodyshop to make them look a bit more pro but I hope mine will turn out ok. If not, then I'll go back to foam/fiberglas, but first I have to try this way.


I think I hate you Juggernaut, Fikse wheels have been my all time dream wheel. Props to you!!

Haha yeah, me too, since I saw a set of FM5s on a friend's E34. Always thought they're out of my price range but after looking around and almost being owned by a scammer (forged specialties, turned out to be chinese crap), and then asking Fikse for a quote, I realized that while they're a bit more than CCW, they're actually cheaper than the rest of the custom wheel market.


I know, I'm just looking at how big those tires are and considering suspension travel. It's difficult to maintain travel, not have rubbing, and have something that large clear. That's all :) I'm sure he has it under control

-Mike

Well first order of business today is to cut the stock fenders and straighten/weld the inner fender so I have the same travel range as stock. Then add the flare so it's again not an open wheel car...

[milKt]

Looks like we know who is gonna pwn Bubela.

"You...know...not."
So classic

[e30polak]

Nice bench! :eyecrazy

Epic race car thread is epic! :buttrock

[BavarianLove]

I like how the only tires you run are hoosiers!

[TheJuggernaut]

I like how the only tires you run are hoosiers!

It's the best grassroots brand. They're very close to the level of grip you'd get from a professional level racing slick but they're not much more expensive than consumer grade R comps. Plus there are a bunch of racing series where you can get season old new, or current slightly used tires (the pro boys with their Pirellis and Michelins take their poop back to the factory).


No worries on that. A sloth just passed my project like its standing still! Taking forever.

Had grandiose plans for today. Got home from the gym, posted the video, took a nap. Woke up, it's 2:30... ok I'll just watch the start of the 24hr Rolex and then go to the garage. Still watching the race :( Hopefully I'm more inspired tomorrow. It's the perfect weekend too: no football, wife's at work all weekend, nothing else really happening. Pissed away half of it so far.

[BavarianLove]

I am going to give you a little motivation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPJUmerxd1Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[e30polak]

I am going to give you a little motivation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPJUmerxd1Y&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Awesome video! :buttrock

[TheJuggernaut]

You guys are gonna think my brain is broken but I never liked 911s. I respect them as machines and their racing pedigree but I find them as interesting as brown grocery bags.

[BavarianLove]

Alright well here is another e85 in action

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WIkB6Zl1wc8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[TheJuggernaut]

This was actually a big part of the motivation early on. I hope to make a video of me booking it around mosport with that kind of hustle or better, yelling UNLIMITED POWAAAAAR!

(ffwd to 1:20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFjpJpTcErU

[milKt]

That Supra looks like it handles horrifically, shuddering and slipping,
but once straightened out, says, "Buh bye."

[darrenforeal]

^ oh dear lord

[TheJuggernaut]

That Supra looks like it handles horrifically, shuddering and slipping,
but once straightened out, says, "Buh bye."

It's pretty soft but it's also an exceptional driver, I believe he's a factory porker driver now

[MikeE36]

That Supra looks like it handles horrifically, shuddering and slipping,
but once straightened out, says, "Buh bye."

LOL. Have you ever done a track day? Just curious.

-Mike

[BadBoostedBmwM3]

Those fikse are so beautiful!

[TheJuggernaut]

Those fikse are so beautiful!

Thanks man!

[milKt]

It's pretty soft but it's also an exceptional driver, I believe he's a factory porker driver now

I would say he did VERY well with a whale.


LOL. Have you ever done a track day? Just curious.

-Mike

hehe
Mike,

Nope.
My point a few posts back noted the scrappiness of the Supra's handling/shuddering,
not a general difficulty of a fast car in a hot track situation. I can do that.

It's OK that Supra's have garbage handling. You don't need to defend them. :stickoutt

[bubela]

I'm looking forward to the in-car video you make with this e30.

Do you have the song picked out yet?

[TheJuggernaut]

I'm looking forward to the in-car video you make with this e30.

Do you have the song picked out yet?

No but I've thought about it extensively. Front-runners include move, bitch by ludacris and highway star by deep purple.

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/4/13/128841589630669990.jpg

[milKt]

:rofl:

[ZimDoc]

My point a few posts back noted the scrappiness of the Supra's handling/shuddering,
not a general difficulty of a fast car in a hot track situation. I can do that.

It's OK that Supra's have garbage handling. You don't need to defend them. :stickoutt

Sorry a little OT,

If you could drive like Leh does you should have been in Daytona this weekend racing.

Back on topic,

Are you going to change suspension angles at all or going to keep the stock mounting locations? Only reason I ask when using the shorten strut housings a few people don't run high enough spring rates and they bottom out the strut during most turns when using slicks.

[TheJuggernaut]

Well other than the E36/Mcoupe/GC bits, no nothing custom at this point. I have 750 lb springs front and 900 or 1000 rear (don't remember at the moment). If that doesn't prove to be enough, the springs are cheap and the struts I chose will handle more.

Alright, the garage is warmed up... gonna go do work.

[milKt]

If you could drive like Leh

:stickoutt I never said that...and


Back on topic

please :)

[ZimDoc]

Well other than the E36/Mcoupe/GC bits, no nothing custom at this point. I have 750 lb springs front and 900 or 1000 rear (don't remember at the moment). If that doesn't prove to be enough, the springs are cheap and the struts I chose will handle more.

Alright, the garage is warmed up... gonna go do work.

Sounds good. Glad you have more motivation then I do this weekend.

[Colby Colbs]

The couch is British Racing Green FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, how much weight was that? My skinny ass got 350 up for 2 before failure (had 2 spotters of course)... shrugging 565 for sets of 10 tho. Then the diagnosis (cancer) and now back to being skinny! (FTL)

Good to see you getting it in!! Makes me feel like I was rite there watchin. :)

[wazzu70]

LOL. Have you ever done a track day? Just curious.

-Mike

Do most people on this forum who give commentary?

I wish more people would get out and use the BMW like it was intended. We would see a huge shift in setups. To each their own though I suppose.

[TheJuggernaut]

Sounds good. Glad you have more motivation then I do this weekend.

http://i.imgur.com/Jziea.jpg

Everything was going great, cut the stock flare off fairly painlessly, started welding up the inner fender.... FFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

Did a bunch of other things like wiring and plumbing. Made good progress in reality but there isn't much visual difference and there's still plenty to do... SO ANNOYING and demotivating.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e-uTe_KMYaI/TyW81bOIhTI/AAAAAAAACq4/BSTN3J7A8kw/s640/IMAGE_1000000332.JPG


The couch is British Racing Green FTMFW!!!!!!!!!!!!
Also, how much weight was that? My skinny ass got 350 up for 2 before failure (had 2 spotters of course)... shrugging 565 for sets of 10 tho. Then the diagnosis (cancer) and now back to being skinny! (FTL)

Good to see you getting it in!! Makes me feel like I was rite there watchin. :)

Haha, yeah the couch is a handmedown from the parents and I never had the heart to throw it away cause it's so durable, looks as good as it did 20 years ago. But it found its place.

That was 475. Hopefully make the push well into the 500s this year, take the national record back with no doubt.

Shit man... what kind of cancer? How are you doing, did you beat it?

[Colby Colbs]

500 HOLYYY MOTHER OF GOD!! YOUR INSANE! I can only imagine how much you eat LOL! Thats nutz dude props to you! Will be cheering you on! Most I've ever even seen was 450... :buttrock

Stage 4 Thyroid cancer, I'm beating this shit every day I'm here! My definition of beating it is not the same as the docs, in their words, no. Again, it doesn't slow me down, I'm determined to live along time. I have many dreams, all that doctor crap just makes me work harder. I value every moment, def not your typical human HAHAHA! :D

[TheJuggernaut]

500 HOLYYY MOTHER OF GOD!! YOUR INSANE! I can only imagine how much you eat LOL! Thats nutz dude props to you! Will be cheering you on! Most I've ever even seen was 450... :buttrock

Stage 4 Thyroid cancer, I'm beating this shit every day I'm here! My definition of beating it is not the same as the docs, in their words, no. Again, it doesn't slow me down, I'm determined to live along time. I have many dreams, all that doctor crap just makes me work harder. I value every moment, def not your typical human HAHAHA! :D

Fucken eh man. We all gotta go sometime, and most people live like they got all the time in the world to do what they want... wrong. I had a similar but obviously much milder epiphany some years ago. I went to school with a brilliant guy who was on schedule to retire in his mid 20s. He graduated several years before me even though he was my age, got a research position at Google pre-IPO (when they gave stock away to new hires like it's toilet paper, and he had other smart investments). He hadn't spent a dime on anything he didn't need, figuring once he vests everything, he can "start" his life. He was diagnosed with a brain tumor later that year and died within the next.

My parents are Russian fobs, my inlaws are Taiwanese fobs, so I hear from both sides that I have to live very conservatively, saving for the future. This may have made sense where they grew up, where you can't make enough money to live well today so you can only hope to set yourself up for later, or your kids. But here we don't have to do that and after my friend passed, I realized that no one guarantees you a tomorrow. So while you shouldn't sacrifice tomorrow for the sake of today, you can never pass up the chance to do what you want today - could be the last.

It's terrific to hear you're doing so well, I'm even more interested in your build now :)

[good & tight]

You got me nervous there for a bit, nice to see you out in the garage. It's good to take a break once and awhile, but keep at it even if progress is slow.

[Colby Colbs]

Fucken eh man. We all gotta go sometime, and most people live like they got all the time in the world to do what they want... wrong. I had a similar but obviously much milder epiphany some years ago. I went to school with a brilliant guy who was on schedule to retire in his mid 20s. He graduated several years before me even though he was my age, got a research position at Google pre-IPO (when they gave stock away to new hires like it's toilet paper, and he had other smart investments). He hadn't spent a dime on anything he didn't need, figuring once he vests everything, he can "start" his life. He was diagnosed with a brain tumor later that year and died within the next.

My parents are Russian fobs, my inlaws are Taiwanese fobs, so I hear from both sides that I have to live very conservatively, saving for the future. This may have made sense where they grew up, where you can't make enough money to live well today so you can only hope to set yourself up for later, or your kids. But here we don't have to do that and after my friend passed, I realized that no one guarantees you a tomorrow. So while you shouldn't sacrifice tomorrow for the sake of today, you can never pass up the chance to do what you want today - could be the last.

It's terrific to hear you're doing so well, I'm even more interested in your build now :)
I'm sorry to hear about your friend.
Its interesting to learn about other cultures and how they are with family and values. When you say, "So while you shouldn't sacrifice tomorrow for the sake of today, you can never pass up the chance to do what you want today - could be the last", I couldn't agree with you more. Such a powerful statement!

[Colby Colbs]

Was just reading through your thread and I was wondering what the specs of your front and rear wheels are. I saw you have 335/30/18, sickk! What hoosier tire is it exactly?

From a google search I found this:

43880335/30R18 NARRA12.6"25.6"80.5"
12-13"
12"
13.5"

It seems that they dont make it anymore? I looked through their entire pdf for into, what kind of compound is that? How does it compare to the R6?

[TheJuggernaut]

They're 18x10 and 18x12, both 6.125 backspacing. The rear is on the money but the front needed a spacer. I measured with a proper tire size in mind but the 305 is a bit too big for 10s, so they rub the coil over adjuster, put on a spacer, no big deal. Can always lose the spacer when the fronts wear out and I replace them with a 285 or 295.

They're VRLs (Viper Racing League), I got a steady supply of them from a local Viper racing team. The fronts are a bit of an oddball but he says the rears he should always have available.

Not sure about the compound. From talking to Hoosier engineers and sponsored drivers, it appears that their racing compounds are generally comparable to the R6 or a little harder. The R6 isn't designed to be a real racing tire, it could never survive a professional race stint, so the pro slicks are actually a slightly harder compound, more endurance. Not that I mind, I'll take a bit more tire life for a little less grip.

[Colby Colbs]

Very nice info sir! Any hook up for a good supply of R6's for your soon-to-be Fikse brother?

[TheJuggernaut]

Very nice info sir! Any hook up for a good supply of R6's for your soon-to-be Fikse brother?

You're welcome dude. Not that I know of, not in a size like this. Unless you don't mind the bones to buy new, the pro slicks are a better idea. They're only a little bit harder than R6, will last you longer and you can get last season's tire stock from teams for dirt (think 50-70 for a tire with stickers on it) - they can't use them cause they won't be competitive, I'm not racing for money so what do I care.

[Colby Colbs]

HOLLLLY SCHNIKES!! I pony up the money because I didn't know of such deals/ways to buy tires. DUDE! I was looking at $1500 in tires and now your talking >500 hahaha. Where do I find local teams, or did you have them shipped?

I'm looking for 275/35/18 and 315/30/18 or equivalent.

[TheJuggernaut]

Yeah exactly, a little less grip for 280 vs 1500... sign me up.

I was lucky enough to find a local team but if you google hoosier VRL, you should be able to find Viper and Corvette guys selling them.