HPF Begins RHD M3 Turbo Kit Development - Donor Car Arrives

[HPF Chris]

We just received our donor RHD E46 M3 today from Europe. We will be developing modifications to our existing turbo kit to work on all RHD E46 M3s. I just took these pictures with my iPhone so the quality isn't that great. I'll keep everyone updated on the progress. We have a lot of people wanting an RHD turbo kit for their M3s and we look forward to providing them with a turbo solution. Developing the RHD M3 application is now our new #1 priority.

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[bmw buddy]

mrblonde probably saw this thread, got up from his computer and smacked the shit out of the first person he saw as he was unable to contain in joy

[mtech 3]

As soon as I seen the title of the thread , I thought of mr. Blonde

[Brent 930]

How much different can the kits be? I understand each corner of the firewall is going to be different.

[a32guy]

This is completely awesome, rock on guys!! :)

[uconnr]

How much different can the kits be? I understand each corner of the firewall is going to be different.

First thing I would assume is some interference possiblities with the steering and the LHD manifold and exhaust set-up. Which could be a big deal.

[highboostingm3]

mrblonde probably saw this thread, got up from his computer and smacked the shit out of the first person he saw as he was unable to contain his anger due to waiting too long for the RHD HPF kit and recently selling his e46 m3 and purchasing a 135i.
Fixed.

[5mall5nail5]

Isn't the RHD for sale on your website since forever ago?

[schmiddy93]

Isn't the RHD for sale on your website since forever ago?
this

[highboostingm3]

Developing the RHD M3 application is now our new #1 priority.
I'll tell ya, this right here is saying that the amount of demand for this RHD kit must be HUGE! :eek:

Good for HPF. They have earned every stinkin' penny! :buttrock

[MrBlonde]

Yah I sold my E46 M3 in May this year and bought a 135. The E46 HPF package is great but it's a little old school now and fashion never sleeps.

I also recently purchased a bunch of aftermarket gear to hop up the 135 since HPFs 135 product set plans are more than a year off.

Best of luck to HPF E46 M3 RHD customers, what a fabulous product set with great results!

[HPF Chris]

Thanks everyone. Yes, the steering shaft is one of the largest obstacles. We will need to position the turbo in a different location.

Chris

[05m3smg]

Nice pick up :drool:

[nuvola rossa]

sorry for the silly question... how much cost to ship a car from europe to USA?
that car is from UK... was FS at 11k £... turbo kit is worth near as the car value :D

[E90 AutoSport]

HPF for the damn win again, they are going world wide now. On a side note, aren't most of the E46 M3's in the world sold here in the states? I'm prolly wrong but just saying.

[Devillian]

sorry for the silly question... how much cost to ship a car from europe to USA?
that car is from UK... was FS at 11k £... turbo kit is worth near as the car value :D

It's worth it... seriously.

[ramsing]

sorry for the silly question... how much cost to ship a car from europe to USA?
that car is from UK... was FS at 11k £... turbo kit is worth near as the car value :D

+1

shipping would be a killer, unless you've got your own plane/boat. :D

but finally HPF gives some lovin' to RHD M3... :D

[GazM3]

they need to do a s50b32 e36 RHD version also LOL.

for the money and the P&P nature of this kit it will be a winner.
Are they going to develop an e85 programme as in Australia it looks like this fuel will be redily available in a short time

[kingsiang]

Finally yessssssss!!!!!!

[Brent 930]

First thing I would assume is some interference possiblities with the steering and the LHD manifold and exhaust set-up. Which could be a big deal.

Ahh yes, that would make things tricky.

So how are you doing? Long time. I was back on the road last Sept.

[HPF Chris]

HPF for the damn win again, they are going world wide now. On a side note, aren't most of the E46 M3's in the world sold here in the states? I'm prolly wrong but just saying.

I estimate about 35% of the E46 M3's are RHD.



I'll tell ya, this right here is saying that the amount of demand for this RHD kit must be HUGE!

Good for HPF. They have earned every stinkin' penny!


We have around 40 people that are actively interested in the RHD version. I think once we start selling them, demand for our RHD turbos will increase too. I've done a lot of international advertising.



Isn't the RHD for sale on your website since forever ago?


We put it up there so people would know that we will have it at some point.

Here are some new pictures. Turbo location will be interesting but we'll work it out.


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[milKt]

Yup... tight little beaver.

[05m3smg]

:wow:

[5271990]

Savspeed did it and sacrificed the aircon to have the turbo at the front and low.

It will be nice to see the fit and finish typical of HPF :)

Chris knows Voodoo, something special will come of this I'm sure :D

Whats in store;
A magic bottom front mount,
Crossover pipe to passenger side,
Top mount and relocate ancillaries
Remote mount

Hmmmmm........ :redspot

[kingsiang]

any updates? ive got a few malaysian buddies that have been talking about the RHD kit...

[ritoab]

Well, looks like a semi remote mounted turbo system in the works here. Cut out the cats and replace with twin turbos. FYI

[Impulsed7]

Yea, have you guys ever thought of an s50b32 kit? there are a lot of similarities between the two engines.

[Devillian]

any updates? ive got a few malaysian buddies that have been talking about the RHD kit...

Your buddies might be happy to hear that the RHD M3 will be coming to Singapore once done.

[Tanks95]

ahh, i miss my time in Germany. A E46 with slight signs of rust already, You gotta love the extreme amounts of salt they use on the roads.

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[ramsing]

Your buddies might be happy to hear that the RHD M3 will be coming to Singapore once done.

that's interesting. So its from SG or UK? I'm confused.....either way, it's time for some HPF lovin' for RHD M3s.....:redspot

[Devillian]

that's interesting. So its from SG or UK? I'm confused.....either way, it's time for some HPF lovin' for RHD M3s.....:redspot

The car was sourced in the UK, and once done by HPF, will be shipped to Singapore. Will definitely be driving it up to Malaysia for the track days.

[ramsing]

The car was sourced in the UK, and once done by HPF, will be shipped to Singapore. Will definitely be driving it up to Malaysia for the track days.

very nice, should be a sight to behold and a beast to drive. I'll PM you my number, maybe when you're down in KL, you can give me a call. would love to check it out.

[kingsiang]

So its your car devillian? are you opting for stage 1 or more?

im only very worried about the temps here in asia... its quite extreme. i wonder if it will last, running it in the sepang track day on a really hot day like 40 degrees celcius and high humidity.


I was also wondering if the steering rack be modified with some kind of linkage to allow space for the turbo.

[SloMo3er]

Finally yessssssss!!!!!!

So is an E46 M3 in your crosshair now??!!

[HPF Chris]

Here are some pics of the engine out on the RHD M3. We have a preliminary design of the turbo manifold, and now we can actively work on this car. We also ordered another lift for our shop that will be dedicated to new development only.

Chris.

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[HPF Chris]

It makes it a lot easier when you can bolt the frame rail and firewall from another car to your engine. My guys are getting creative. :)

Chris.

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[Dan Moodley]

Have u guys considered mounting the turbo on the passenger side of the Rhd M?
I was thinking of doing this on a Z4m.
Will your kit allow for the aircon to be retained?
I am def interested.

[Devillian]

Have u guys considered mounting the turbo on the passenger side of the Rhd M?
I was thinking of doing this on a Z4m.
Will your kit allow for the aircon to be retained?
I am def interested.

The air-con would definitely need to be retained. Don't think too many people would wanna sacrifice that.
Like myself... since I'd be using it in a very hot country (Singapore).

[5mall5nail5]

Not sure why this hasn't been updated, but here it is:

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Not what I envisioned but interesting.

[milKt]

Climb upon the faithful Top Mount Steed ???

:eyecrazy

[GG///M3]

Top MOunt rape?

[FastrTHNu]

i wonder how many LHD cars are going to want to switch for the RHD exhaust mani set-up?

[HPF Chris]

UPDATE...

These are the twin turbo manifold designs from Solidworks with equal length runners.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdmanifold1.jpg

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[GGray]

UPDATE...

These are the twin turbo manifold designs from Solidworks with equal length runners.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdmanifold1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdmanifold2.jpg

Twin turbo's... intresting... looks good..

[5mall5nail5]

Are you going to have them cast? Or tubular welded?

Also, can I make a suggestion - vband a wastegate provision. Just in case you decide you want to put bigger turbos on later.

[Mscire2]

Its a shame that HPF hasnt adapted their kits for the s54 m coupes. Altho i wonder if the rhd setup may work since they are going the top mount route.

[GG///M3]

Its a shame that HPF hasnt adapted their kits for the s54 m coupes. Altho i wonder if the rhd setup may work since they are going the top mount route.

Hrmmm. Good question. Chris whats the answer?

[highboostingm3]

Twin turbo top-mount goodness. :drool:

[Sel The Don]

I can't see any pics of the mani's :(

I'm looking forward to seeing this completed, we have a new addition to the family....

[kingsiang]

It makes it a lot easier when you can bolt the frame rail and firewall from another car to your engine. My guys are getting creative. :)

Chris.

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You guys are freaking incredible... I wonder if your 335i builds are made with the RHD's in mind too. U guys seriously :buttrock

[HPF Chris]

Its a shame that HPF hasnt adapted their kits for the s54 m coupes. Altho i wonder if the rhd setup may work since they are going the top mount route.

We could certainly adapt them to the S54 m coupes. We just have a bit too much on our plate right now. I need more people, but in this market, I want to be careful and control our growth. :)

Chris.

[Mscire2]

We could certainly adapt them to the S54 m coupes. We just have a bit too much on our plate right now. I need more people, but in this market, I want to be careful and control our growth. :)

Chris.

This is good news as there are as there are zero turbo options for us S54 Coupe guys and the supercharger options arnt too great either.

[GG///M3]

This is good news as there are as there are zero turbo options for us S54 Coupe guys and the supercharger options arnt too great either.

Chris listen to this human.

[HPF Chris]

We finished the rapid prototypes of the turbo manifold and the turbo outlet to v-band housing. Since space is so tight, we had to design a housing for our turbo outlet/wastegate. This part works on both the upper and lower turbos. We have some minor modifications for the turbo manifolds, then we can design the piping and send the manifolds off to have the tooling made.

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[douglee25]

Nice looking. RP'ing is such a great tool to have in your design arsenal.

Doug

[87shark]

1 top mount and 1 bottom mount?

[agentorange]

Very cool stuff, being able to print parts like that.
Keep hackin at it,
hopefully what you learn on this build might be able to be applied to the Z4 chassis.

PS - The more pics, the merrier. (being that it is the holiday season, and all :P )

[BMWManiac]

Don't forget about the small market of us Z4M owners! I want HPF!

[douglee25]

When HPF prototypes a model like that, do you take (via tape measure and protractor)numerous measurements in the beginning to create a window of interferences and then design the piece in CAD within that window?

Doug

[HPF Chris]

JP is nearly done with the design of the new coolant overflow tank. We had to relocate it and design a new one to make room for the upper turbo. It will be made out of aluminum and will use the OEM coolant level sensor. :)

Chris.

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[HPF Chris]

bump.. any new pics?

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[HPF Chris]

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[Perfection Auto]

HPF will find a way, i dont have problems with my e36 RHD manifolds and i could fit 3.5inch dump if i wanted but 3inch works the treat

i think it will have to be hi mount kit though unless HPF perform there magic

[HPF Chris]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWD76HPI1y4

[M5Hunter]

Glad to see the kit comming together

[ramsing]

nice work on the RHD kit. What power levels will be offered on it??

[highboostingm3]

I am soooo excited to see the different powerbands overlaid. YES! :buttrock

Also...my guess is that if someone opted for the TT even with LHD they could get it? :devillook

[M3wishin]

is there going to be space for an airfilter on the lower turbo?

[EBM3WSNC]

Why not opt for a single top mount?

[GT110]

Dear HPF. I must say that I am super happy that you are doing a twin GT22 kit. I have wanted to see this done professionally for a while to get a benchmark on my system (twin GT2252 on S50B30 euro).

What power levels do you expect and at what boost?

I wich my setup was as clean as this.. but in any case Im happy with mine. Its a twin bottom mount, but the AC had to go.

http://myndasafn.bmwkraftur.is/d/81532-1/M3GT_Winter02.jpg

[Donutman1]

Hey Chris.

Been following ur progress on the HPF youtube channel. Im sure a lot of people over here are getting very excited about this project. Can't wait to see the final result.

Good luck

[HPF Chris]

Hey Chris.

Been following ur progress on the HPF youtube channel. Im sure a lot of people over here are getting very excited about this project. Can't wait to see the final result.

Good luck

Pump gas numbers in. :) Whoa talk about spool. :) Those turbos come on-line fast. I'll post em up once we have race gas numbers in as well.

Chris.

[HPF David]

Strapped down to the dyno! Ready to start tuning! We will keep everyone posted.

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[GT110]

Seriously looking forward to this!!

[HPF Chris]

Here's the SAE dyno graph with RPM on the bottom.

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/images/products/HPF/RHDstage1RPMSAE.gif

[HPF Chris]

Just got our first batch of RHD turbo manifolds completed!! :) We will be shipping out our first RHD turbo kits to customers very soon. I'll take high quality pics of these manifolds in our photo room tomorrow. :)

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/publicimages/m3turbokit/rhdmanifolds/rhdmanifolds.jpg

Chris.

[HPF Chris]

Just got our first batch of RHD turbo manifolds completed!! :) We will be shipping out our first RHD turbo kits to customers very soon. I'll take high quality pics of these manifolds in our photo room tomorrow. :)

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/publicimages/m3turbokit/rhdmanifolds/rhdmanifolds.jpg

Chris.

[tlmitf]

Looks so good you had to post it twice!

Now i just need to sell enough blow to get a nice HPF kit, lol

[tlmitf]

Wow, i think BF is having some server issues...

[HPF Chris]

Looks so good you had to post it twice!

Now i just need to sell enough blow to get a nice HPF kit, lol

Ha ha. Start selling. :)

Here are some pics of the HPF "RHD" Turbo Manifolds. :)

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdturbomanifolds/cropped/RHD_Manifold1.jpg

http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdturbomanifolds/cropped/RHD_Manifold2.jpg

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http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/miscellaneous/m3turbokit/rhd/rhdturbomanifolds/cropped/RHD_Manifold3.jpg

[HPF Chris]

Update... Two complete production HPF RHD kits are built and ready to ship (minus an AC line and an overflow tank which will be done next week). I asked my guys to fully assemble both kits on the car and disassembled them to ensure our customer's won't have any issues and all the necessary parts are included in our production batch. The first kit has already been completely assembled on the RHD M3 here and disassembled. We will be fully installing the 2nd kit and John will be creating the RHD instructions based on his installation of this 2nd kit. We hope to be shipping these two kits later next week, so stay tuned. We will immediately begin building the next batch of 5 RHD kits which will happen much quicker, so if you want to lock in your order send an email to kirk@horsepowerfreaks.com, branden@horsepowerfreaks.com or erik@horsepowerfreaks.com.

Chris.

[GG///M3]

You make some of these for US customers. Good work

[FastrTHNu]

You make some of these for US customers. Good work

And flip the rear manifold 'up'... and use 28R's... and http://blog.rifftrax.com/wp-content/uploads/homer-drooling.jpg ...

[HPF Chris]

Shipped

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=23349009#post23349009