View Full Version : VW owns BMW?
TurboM3
11-09-2003, 09:38 PM
MY friend was telling me that VW is the parent company to BMW. Is that true?
Thanks
Mark
shragon
11-09-2003, 09:47 PM
:biglaughb
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Dinan330ic
11-09-2003, 09:48 PM
WTF?!?!? HAHAHAHAH
NegativeCambre
11-09-2003, 09:50 PM
Jesus Tapdancing Christ, NO.
Go punch your friend.
Steve
racecar
11-09-2003, 09:51 PM
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einhander
11-09-2003, 09:52 PM
Wouldn't that be cute.
Your friend is a dildo.
parent company eh?
Go enlighten him that his uncle is probably his father.. that would explain a LOT hahah
uberM5
11-09-2003, 09:56 PM
:rofl:
Don Nguyen
11-09-2003, 09:57 PM
and toyota owns honda, yeesh, where that come from.
DasAutokerl
11-09-2003, 09:58 PM
The thought makes me cringe.
Veedub does own Audi. Maybe that's what he was thinking? :dunno
uberM5
11-09-2003, 09:58 PM
maybe the other way around bmw owns vw
Don Nguyen
11-09-2003, 10:11 PM
vw could only wish for that :)
M-Theory
11-09-2003, 10:12 PM
You're friends a grade A idiot. VW owns Audi...
M-Theory
11-09-2003, 10:12 PM
You're friends a grade A idiot. VW owns Audi or the other way around...
NegativeCambre
11-09-2003, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by uberM5
maybe the other way around bmw owns vw
NO!
And VW doesn't just own Audi... pretty much the same company, and for the most part always were. Porsche, Audi and VW have always been under similiar if not the same management. I mean, Ferdinand Porsche "designed" the VW bug AND the 356 Porsche.
Steve
NickM3
11-09-2003, 10:22 PM
The Volkswagen group consists of:
Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat, Skoda and of course Volkswagen
NegativeCambre
11-09-2003, 10:25 PM
Originally posted by proteinbeast
The Volkswagen group consists of:
Audi, Bentley, Bugatti, Lamborghini, Seat, Skoda and of course Volkswagen
Yeah... pretty impressive portfolio, eh?
Ford, of all companies, has a really nice one too:
Jaguar, Aston Martin, Mazda, Land Rover, and... shoot, I got a feeling I'm forgeting a few...
Steve
eric77
11-09-2003, 10:45 PM
bmw is not doin too bad
BMW, MINI, and ROLLS ROYCE, i think. correct me if im wrong. thats just wut ive herd
woobiee
11-09-2003, 10:47 PM
bmw owns/owned mini, land rover, rover, rolls royce, am i missing any?
M-Theory
11-09-2003, 10:51 PM
BMW no longer owns Land Rover...
Daved
11-09-2003, 11:39 PM
VW owned Rolls Royce before BMW.
NegativeCambre
11-09-2003, 11:41 PM
Originally posted by 325iChris
BMW no longer owns Land Rover...
Righto, like my above post says, Land Rover is owned by Ford.
BMW gave Land Rover a bunch of their 4.4l V8's for the new Range Rover, but I think that deal is going to end... Ford is taking a bath because that engine is so darn expensive.
Steve
BimmerBoy
11-10-2003, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by Daved
VW owned Rolls Royce before BMW.
I saw a documentary on this, how rolls royce was up for sale. I cant remember the details, but I remember rolls royce favoring BMW to be the new owner because BMW has been making their engines for a while now (since they are no longer hand made), and then VW came out and placed a bid that BMW couldn't/didn't want to match. BMW threatend that they would no longer make the engines if rolls royce was sold to VW. VW and Rolls Royce didn't want that to happen so they had an agreement with BMW saying that VW will own Rolls Royce for a few years then BMW will get it if BMW would still make their engines. I think it was something like that. Its been a while since I saw that documentary.
Originally posted by TurboM3
VW owns BMW?
:biglaughb
BimwadM42
11-10-2003, 03:37 AM
The Quandt family owns/controls BMW. The Porsche family owns Porsche, though Ferndinand Piech, once head of VW and Audi, is part of that family. VW owns neither BMW nor Porsche.
Vickers used to own R-R/Bentley cars.
The company was sold to VW, but the real R-R, which is partnered with BMW making aircraft engines, decided that they didn't want VW making R-R cars, so they yanked the rights and sold them to BMW.
VW was ambushed, but they seem to be content carrying on with only Bentley.
woobiee
11-10-2003, 04:52 AM
i def know vw and porsche has some sort of relationship, either ownership or company relations.
rupes001
11-10-2003, 09:25 AM
Originally posted by woobiee
i def know vw and porsche has some sort of relationship, either ownership or company relations.
Porsche is one of the smallest independantly owned car companies in the world. But they do have good relations with VW.
SilverBeam
11-10-2003, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by StevenRyan
Yeah... pretty impressive portfolio, eh?
Ford, of all companies, has a really nice one too:
Jaguar, Aston Martin, Mazda, Land Rover, and... shoot, I got a feeling I'm forgeting a few...
Steve
lincoln and mercury are owned by Ford too. We're still missing some, I'll make sure to remember them as I drive by the Ford Motor Company's buildings today on my way to work. And who owns Range Rover now? The Ford building is still sporting their sign.
Out of all the car company conglomerates, I think that the VW circle is the best and most prestigious, even though VW is a part of it. When the first pictures of the new Bentley coupe were printed in C&D, my dad came to me and said, “Do you want to see a really nice VW?”
SilverBeam
11-10-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by rupes001
Porsche is one of the smallest independantly owned car companies in the world. But they do have good relations with VW.
are you sure about that, the Tourag and the Chyanne (sp??) share the same platform and are made at the same plant.
NegativeCambre
11-10-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by SilverBeam
lincoln and mercury are owned by Ford too. We're still missing some, I'll make sure to remember them as I drive by the Ford Motor Company's buildings today on my way to work. And who owns Range Rover now? The Ford building is still sporting their sign.
Out of all the car company conglomerates, I think that the VW circle is the best and most prestigious, even though VW is a part of it. When the first pictures of the new Bentley coupe were printed in C&D, my dad came to me and said, “Do you want to see a really nice VW?”
D'oh! Thanks Lauren. Can't believe I forgot Lincoln and Mercury.
Range Rover is just a model in Land Rovers line up, I thought?
Steve
SilverBeam
11-10-2003, 12:07 PM
you're right steven, I put Range Rover by accident. The sign says Land Rover. I have a bad habit of mixing that up. I forgot to take a look at the signs today. After 2 days of not driving my car, I was having too much fun comming off the onramp and merging, and checking out some RSX with FI next to me on the freeway. My bad, I'll try to remember to look on my way home.
bimmer95
11-10-2003, 01:06 PM
Originally posted by SilverBeam
lincoln and mercury are owned by Ford too. We're still missing some
Volvo
rupes001
11-10-2003, 01:18 PM
Originally posted by SilverBeam
are you sure about that, the Tourag and the Chyanne (sp??) share the same platform and are made at the same plant.
I'm absolutely positive. Here is an article that I just found that explains your questions:
http://haasweek.berkeley.edu/20030407/porsche.html
nerdcoreGT
11-10-2003, 01:25 PM
Though if you ask anyone on this forum, BMW 0wns everyone
bmw_uk_2002
11-10-2003, 01:46 PM
This isnt what people want to hear but this is whtt i heard so dont start flaming me ..
Apparently FORD is the biggest share holder in BMW. anyone know any truth in this ?
NegativeCambre
11-10-2003, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by bimmer95
Volvo
Gracias... Fords got a lot of the companies I hold in high regard.
Its funny that Mazda, maker of some of the best handling affordable sports cars of all time, is owned by a company that makes cars that turn like diesel trains.
Steve
hakjai
11-10-2003, 02:19 PM
Originally posted by shragon
:biglaughb
hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i own them both!! :biglaughb :biglaughb :biglaughb
shragon
11-10-2003, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by rupes001
Porsche is one of the smallest independantly owned car companies in the world. But they do have good relations with VW.
yep.
nice article you posted too.
SilverBeam
11-10-2003, 04:55 PM
Originally posted by nerdcoreGT
Though if you ask anyone on this forum, BMW 0wns everyone
:rofl: now thats what I wanna hear.
jvit27
11-10-2003, 04:57 PM
Audi, Porsche, and VW are the same company.
Mark85
11-10-2003, 06:11 PM
yea, alot of companies have parent companies but BMW and Mercedez are Independant companies
im not sure who else is independant but Ferrari might be...
sirtiger
11-10-2003, 06:12 PM
Don't scare me dude!
Pinck1
11-10-2003, 08:44 PM
Ford is not the largest shareholder of BMW. Ford derives no revenue from BMW unless through some investment in some subsidiary. Porsche is seperate from BMW, which is seperate from VW, which is seperate from Daimlerchrysler. What may be the cause for confusion is that most European companies have cross holdings in other like companies, for example Renault (if one can call them a car company) holds 30% of Nissan. So maybe there was some reference to a crossholding.
993TargaGuy
11-10-2003, 09:09 PM
Porsche is separate from the VW group, and as a side note Porsche is currently the most profitable automaker in the world. They do have a very close relationship, audi builds the tiptronics for boxsters and regular 911s. They also codeveloped the Cayenne/toureg, but they are built at separate plants. Porsche and VW also codeveloped the 914s of the early 70's and in europe they were even badged as VW-Porsches. Also Audi built the 924s for porsche, so they have a very good relationship, but they are still separate. And VW wishes it could own BMW.
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