Fisheye on 7D + night twisties = sick friend

[SC David]

Had fun making my friend sick tonight. He wanted to try out his new Canon 7D which just arrived in the mail. He's actually sitting in the passenger seat here, keeping the camera stable. But in looking at the screen too long, he almost lost his dinner.

We'll shoot some better videos eventually, but it was cool to see how well the camera performed under these absolutely horrendous lighting circumstances. Unfortunately, YouTube degraded the video some. Next time I'll upload to Vimeo. Anywho. For your enjoyment:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqRdaW3ecrc&feature=youtube_gdata

[wrc1045]

I didn't hear any tire squealing! Nice shots from the cam.

What is that metalic sound everytime you turnes the corners? Did you have a bag of keys rolling around on the floorboard?

[SC David]

I didn't hear any tire squealing! Nice shots from the cam.

What is that metalic sound everytime you turnes the corners? Did you have a bag of keys rolling around on the floorboard?Nah, these tires never make a peep, even when peeling out. The sound was the parking meter change in the dash tray rolling around...I even took all the keys off my keyring to try to eliminate jingling, but overlooked the obvious. Next time we'll pay attention to all the details and use a separate mic for exhaust sound.

[Boogieboy]

Cool vid.

You take your hands off off the steering wheel a little much....imo. You should adjust your seat a little, so that you can almost make a complete U turn without having to shuffle your hands around to catch the wheel.




You can practice like this...lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9TLavhv-zE&feature=related


What was the camera mounted to?

[ShapeShifter]

Nice camera, boring content.

[5tre5i]

Were you guys driving near twin peaks?

[SC David]

Cool vid.

You take your hands off off the steering wheel a little much....imo. You should adjust your seat a little, so that you can almost make a complete U turn without having to shuffle your hands around to catch the wheel.




You can practice like this...lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9TLavhv-zE&feature=related


What was the camera mounted to?Thanks. I could certainly benefit quite a bit from some track lessons. And you're right, if I had my hand taped to the wheel like that through turns, at this point I don't think I'd survive. Camera was mounted to a tripod which was had its three points on the door sill, center console, and driver's side rear floor, all being held down by my friend.


Nice camera, boring content.Yeh, agreed. Thought I'd put it up for the hell of it. We'll do a feature sorta deal at some point.


Were you guys driving near twin peaks?Tunnel Road in the Oakland Hills. Fun road, but night is about the only time when there aren't mad amounts of cyclists.

[5tre5i]

lol it's hard to drive with other bicyclists on the rode, many of them have the take the whole road mentality. Even had an issue when I was riding my motorcycle

[jehu]

I was taught not to grab the knob...use the hand to pull like a hook or when shifting away use the inside of the fingers/palm to push the lever away.

[GGray]

Cool vid.

You take your hands off off the steering wheel a little much....imo. You should adjust your seat a little, so that you can almost make a complete U turn without having to shuffle your hands around to catch the wheel.




You can practice like this...lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9TLavhv-zE&feature=related


What was the camera mounted to?

Actually shuffle steering is fine on really tight sections. Crossing your arms is bad, you do not have the ablity to use more wheel if your arms are crossed up. Most autocrossers shuffle steer. My theory is if you can't remember where the wheel is you don't need to be behind it...

Also stay off the clutch. I noticed you depressed the cluth once or twice mid corner probbaly to brake.

And yes I know what I'm talking about 20 years on track and 10+ instructing;)

Do a HPDE I saw a really nice 525 five speed at Barber a few weeks ago out on track having a blast.. actually looked like the clone of your car :D

[MaxSteel]

Nice. I've been wanting to get a T2i or something to get my feet wet with video.

GCs on yet?

[SC David]

I was taught not to grab the knob...use the hand to pull like a hook or when shifting away use the inside of the fingers/palm to push the lever away.I usually hook it from 1st to 2nd, push outwards with the palm into 3rd, reverse finger hook into 4th, and push directly outwards with palm into 5th.


Actually shuffle steering is fine on really tight sections. Crossing your arms is bad, you do not have the ablity to use more wheel if your arms are crossed up. Most autocrossers shuffle steer. My theory is if you can't remember where the wheel is you don't need to be behind it...

Also stay off the clutch. I noticed you depressed the cluth once or twice mid corner probbaly to brake.

And yes I know what I'm talking about 20 years on track and 10+ instructing;)

Do a HPDE I saw a really nice 525 five speed at Barber a few weeks ago out on track having a blast.. actually looked like the clone of your car :DOnce I get the coilovers and sways on this thing, I wanna hit up an autocross or two. The setup is way too soft as is.

Shuffle steering has always been my technique, with the left hand being my dominant one. The clutch was always out, only depressed for gear changes. I'm not THAT big a noob, but you can certainly see at 1:14 I shift down into second coming out of the corner which was much less than ideal. Gotta learn the heel-toe :cool


Nice. I've been wanting to get a T2i or something to get my feet wet with video.

GCs on yet?Soon! T2i seems to be quite a deal for video stuff.

[paanta]

Actually shuffle steering is fine on really tight sections. Crossing your arms is bad, you do not have the ablity to use more wheel if your arms are crossed up. Most autocrossers shuffle steer. My theory is if you can't remember where the wheel is you don't need to be behind it...


Shuffle steering is also much better when you hit something. Especially when there's an airbag involved.

I know someone who had an airbag deploy with his arms crossed. Took him quite a while to get back in the driver's seat...

[TGreene]

Haha, yall are way more technical than I.

[M Quick]

That steering tech doesn't look near optimal.. Man i hope you are not involved in a crash and get your arms badly bent due to the airbag steering like that.. It also looks like you're sitting way to close to the wheel. Knees almost hitting the dash and that your arms seems to be flat out togheter with the steering wheel sometimes too, but it may be the fisheye that makes it look like that. Don't forget that you can telescope the steering wheel like you want it too :)


Nice video quality though.

[5mall5nail5]

That steering tech doesn't look near optimal.. Man i hope you are not involved in a crash and get your arms badly bent due to the airbag steering like that.. It also looks like you're sitting way to close to the wheel. Knees almost hitting the dash and that your arms seems to be flat out togheter with the steering wheel sometimes too, but it may be the fisheye that makes it look like that. Don't forget that you can telescope the steering wheel like you want it too :)


Nice video quality though.

Miche I am convinced you can never say anything positive without trying to find something wrong in everything first. What in the hell are you talking about - he's driving the car like any normal human. What you just said makes no sense - you just accused him of sitting too close with his knees hitting, but then say his arms are out flat and that would get his "arms badly bent" - which is it, he can't be too close with his legs and too far with his arms lol. Whatever man.

[M Quick]

Miche I am convinced you can never say anything positive without trying to find something wrong in everything first. What in the hell are you talking about - he's driving the car like any normal human. What you just said makes no sense - you just accused him of sitting too close with his knees hitting, but then say his arms are out flat and that would get his "arms badly bent" - which is it, he can't be too close with his legs and too far with his arms lol. Whatever man.

Oh man here we go again. Don't feed the monkeys. It'll only end bad.

Ofcourse, i'm always first to say anything negative ;)
I was the first one in here saying anything negative about his driving technique, right? Oh, yeah i was! I didn't see that i was the only one responding to this thread, lol.

Simple missunderstanding, "dude".
Let me put it this way with what i said about the arms: the arms along the steering wheels like the arms are touching the steeringwheel, getit ? No?
Didn't say he had the arms STRAIGHT out, i said the arms looks to sit flat TOGHETER with the wheel.


Sometimes this forum reminds me of kindergarden, I can't say anything "negative" or my own opinion, because i'm from europe. Right?
But when anyone else says anything negative or their own opinion, it's ok. Right?
Sounds logic. Mhm.

I don't get it why people seem to go cry in a corner when i say something "negative", geez, just take it constructive like anyone else with non hostile intendentations would. Instead of starting a pie war here and making this thread look bad. But hey, that'll be my fault, and not yours, so go ahead i guess..Errr.

Try to respect different opinions instead, because that's all there is, so that we can have an end to these childish behaviours.

Keep in mind that english isn't my native language, so for me trying to describe things may involve a little common(rare?) sense to understand what i mean.



And if you still didn't understand why i was "negative" here's a further insight:
It's simply because you can get one to avoid bad injuries. It's called good advice, no matter how negative it sounds.

[5mall5nail5]

Miche - say something negative or critical when it actually makes sense to. You're criticizing a guys driving style when you can barely see him in a UWA distorted video in the dark lol.

And who are you to criticize driving and steering position - you've got some sort of control strapped to your steering wheel at 4 oclock lol.

No one is in a corner crying - I am here calling you out in the middle of the room. You always pick the most off the wall crap to say when you have nothing to actually give input on... so just don't!

[M Quick]

Miche - say something negative or critical when it actually makes sense to. You're criticizing a guys driving style when you can barely see him in a UWA distorted video in the dark lol.

And who are you to criticize driving and steering position - you've got some sort of control strapped to your steering wheel at 4 oclock lol.

No one is in a corner crying - I am here calling you out in the middle of the room. You always pick the most off the wall crap to say when you have nothing to actually give input on... so just don't!


Yeah, i guess you're right, my intendations wasn't to give him good advice.
Shoot me a movie of when you have your arms all over a steeringwheel while another deploys the airbag on that steeringwheel that you got your arms wrapped around and lets see what happens. And it wasn't my intendations that one can avoid that.

Yeah, my remote really makes it hard to steer it when it's mounted at 4 o clock. Mhm.
General rule is to have hands at 2:50, so it doesn't interfer with anything. But that may differ over in the US, maybe you guys got your hands 4:40? That doesn't matter anyways, this is my daily driver which i have my kid and my girl in, and 99% of the time it's not even mounted on the wheel, just for pics. I already got a track car specific for twisty roads anyways.


Yeah you're right. I'll try to gather some time to reach thousands of posts first before i do that, because it seems that you are allowed to do that then.


You can call me out as much as you want, and say that i'm always negative. Doesn't make anything better.

[Steve547i]

Yeah, i guess you're right, my intendations wasn't to give him good advice.
Shoot me a movie of when you have your arms all over a steeringwheel while another deploys the airbag on that steeringwheel that you got your arms wrapped around and lets see what happens. And it wasn't my intendations that one can avoid that.

Yeah, my remote really makes it hard to steer it when it's mounted at 4 o clock. Mhm.
General rule is to have hands at 2:50, so it doesn't interfer with anything. But that may differ over in the US, maybe you guys got your hands 4:40? That doesn't matter anyways, this is my daily driver which i have my kid and my girl in, so it's really not that i need to pay attention to it. I already got a track car specific for twisty roads.


Yeah you're right. I'll try to gather some time to reach thousands of posts first before i do that, because it seems that you are allowed to do that then.


You can call me out as much as you want, and say that i'm always negative. Doesn't make anything better.

actually, to be honest yer wrong again champ. The safest position for your hands is 9 and 3. I took a defensive driving course and they proved it. They said say a tire blows out on the highway, and your hands are at ten and two, you dont have the best control to correct it. This was demonstrated by them jerking the wheel while you held it at both positions, and you do have better control. Keep in mind this was while i was EXPECTING them to jerk it, and i still could correct it safely, quickly, and effectively.

[5mall5nail5]

intendations ftw

Dude I drive with my hands at 2:47 PM.

(wtf)

stoooooooop

[M Quick]

actually, to be honest yer wrong again champ. The safest position for your hands is 9 and 3. I took a defensive driving course and they proved it. They said say a tire blows out on the highway, and your hands are at ten and two, you dont have the best control to correct it. This was demonstrated by them jerking the wheel while you held it at both positions, and you do have better control. Keep in mind this was while i was EXPECTING them to jerk it, and i still could correct it safely, quickly, and effectively.


Don't get me wrong here, but i totally agree with you on that.

I just said that's the general rule, which is what everyone gets to learn (here in europe atleast).

[Steve547i]

Don't get me wrong here, but i totally agree with you on that.
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i think the space time continuum just malfunctioned.

[5mall5nail5]

yeah wut

[M Quick]

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[Sam Son]

whats all the rattling?

[Sam Son]

Miche I understand english may not be your first language but I cant help but be completely baffled by your use of it. Another thing is logic....your posts contain none of it

[ArnZ]

I hear clunking somewhere.... sounds very annoying.

Wish i had a 5spd, id even put up with the clunking to have one.

[Boogieboy]

Crossing your arms is bad.That's mainly what I was saying, sorry I am not as educated on this stuff as some but I know a little.:D

I watch a lot of Togue battle video's....lol.:shifty


OP: Sorry if I started anything with that comment about your driving, it was not my intention to be negative.:)