One Touch Close Rear Windows on Coupe & NAV Language Set

[mystert]

Is one touch close available for rear windows?? Ive looked at the FSW/PSW file for the GM5 module and was able to disable rear window opening with the key (until I can get the rear windows to one touch close), and enable foglights on with hi beams in the lighting module, but i cant seem to figure how to get the rear windows to one touch close.

All my KOMFORT____ settings were acktiv except for KOMFORTOEFFNEN_FB_O_FH_HI :. I made it acktiv and im not sure exactly what it did. Any ideas?

Im using NCS Expert

[rondo]

Hi due to the lack of pinch sensors in the e46 coupe you might be out of luck for the one touch rear.These are the function but you dont have them as far as i know.
FH_TUEREN_HINTEN_TIPP_AUF :rear window power down one touch
FH_TUEREN_HINTEN_TIPP_ZU : rear window power up one touch .
What functions did you disable to stop the key open/closing rear window?

[mystert]

KOMFORTSCHLIE_FB_O_FH_HI :
Is the key that lets the rear windows open with the key. I turned it off and now the rear windows on my coupe dont open. I have a habit of forgetting to close them!

Looks like my rear window pinch sensor is "nicht_aktiv", ill go ahead after work today and turn that on. That key is-

EINKLEMMSCH_HINTEN:

by the way, if you look at the posts on this forum for e46 windows or something, there is a txt file with a lot of the FSW/PSW tranlations.

[NikolaiD]

Side note, but my E46 (convertible, so may not be the case in your coupe) does not have the physical 2nd click on the rear window button.

When you push it down, it has 2 levels, the 2nd one for one-touch, but up is only one.
I tried enabling mine in the software, but there's just no way to physically activate it.

[mystert]

Maybe its possible to swap in the switches from a 4door car??? The trim is the same, so their switches will snap in. Ill have to try to swap in the ones from my buddies 325i and see, if the rear pinch sensor on thing doesnt work.

[casper3t]

Side note, but my E46 (convertible, so may not be the case in your coupe) does not have the physical 2nd click on the rear window button.

When you push it down, it has 2 levels, the 2nd one for one-touch, but up is only one.
I tried enabling mine in the software, but there's just no way to physically activate it.

my convertible has a 2 click down, 1 click up for my rear window

[rondo]

[QUOTE=mystert; by the way, if you look at the posts on this forum for e46 windows or something,there is this a txt file with a lot of the FSW/PSW tranlations.[/QUOTE]
:lolHa ha you are the second person to refer me to my translation list that i posted over a year ago on ecub.This is still a work in progress so if you find the translations for any of the fsw that are unknown or incorrect please let me know so that i can update my list .

[mystert]

Thanks for making the list, its been super helpful.

Do you have copy of the updated list?

Ever tried to take the txt file and run it thru a german translator???

[Beemer187]

For all you E46 vert drivers,

is it possible to close the windows automatic when you lock the car by just one click with the keyfob? (Using NCS expert).

My E36 Vert had this option with an aftermarket alarmsystem.

[mystert]

I think it is possible? These are the codes from Rondos List-

KOMFORTSCHLIE_FB_O_FH_HI : remote closes rear window
KOMFORTSCHLIE_FB_OHNE_SHD : holding close button on remote closes windows without sun roof
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB : convertible top closes by holding the close button on remote..Or closes all windows &sun roof on non convertible

you should take a look at this and see whats possible. Id try it on my coupe but the lock button on my key is broken so i wouldnt be able to test it.

[rondo]

For all you E46 vert drivers,
is it possible to close the windows automatic when you lock the car by just one click with the keyfob? (Using NCS exp)
Hi sorry but this is not an option.I did install a latching relay in my vert.and to activate i have to click my(factory ) remote 3 times to open/close her. This is a cool mod to have if you are not averse to harness mods...

[mystert]

Well I enabled the key for rear window pinch sensor, the window would open but not do anything else, no close or anything, it caused a code too. I re-disabled it and everything worked. guess ill have to keep looking into this

[Snowcatxx87]

^ its obvious bro..

You need a new physical switch as the second click up is NOT there.

[mystert]

Well Bro......If you read the post, its obvious that I dont have a convertible, but a coupe. Also, regardless of whether the switch is correct or not, it should have still closed by holding it like you normally would. The window would open, but would not move at all when trying to close it one touch or by holding the switch normally.

[Snowcatxx87]

Sigh. Do YOU read? It is trying to find a pinch sensor, there is not one, so it won't allow you to close the window and throws a code. It makes perfect sense.

In your mind, you thought you had a vagina, and you tried as you could to make a baby, would it happen? No.

Coupes/Verts dont have the second click up.

You can activate it all you want (including pinch sensor, which doesn't exist), you need a new rear switch, regardless of vert/coupe!!!

[IcemanBHE]

:eatpop:

[mystert]

Looks like Europe and America came with different passenger window switches. USA and EU have a different switches and a different one is highlighted in red for EU and USA

From Real OEM, 330ci USA Right Hand Drive 09/2002 build
For vehicles with
Window lifts,electric,front/rear
S411A=Yes
06Window lifter switch, driver's side1 61316902183$50.53
07Switch, window lifter, vent window1 61316902175$50.53
07Window lifter switch, passenger's side1 61316902178$50.53


From Real OEM, 330ci EUROPE Right Hand Drive 09/2002 build
For vehicles with
Window lifts,electric,front/rear
S411A=Yes
06Window lifter switch, driver's side1 61316902183$50.53
07Switch, window lifter, vent window1 61316902175$50.53
07Window lifter switch, passenger's side1 61316902178$50.53

The drive motors are the same for both EU and USA

The drive motors

12 Drive, vent window left 1 67158238743 $101.80
12 DRIVE VENT WINDOW RIGHT 1 67158238744 $101.80

I cant imagine anywhere else the rear window pinch sensor would be located. If the P/Ns for the window drive motors are the same, i dont see the pinch sensor being located there. Any ideas?

[rondo]

Hi could the pinch sensors be in the rubber door seal above window?

[mystert]

check this switch i found for sale on Ebay.uk, never seen one like this before......


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-3-SERIES-E46-WINDOW-SWITCH-DRIVERS-SIDE-COUPE-CONV-/250634487414?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5afac676

[Beemer187]

check this switch i found for sale on Ebay.uk, never seen one like this before......


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/BMW-3-SERIES-E46-WINDOW-SWITCH-DRIVERS-SIDE-COUPE-CONV-/250634487414?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item3a5afac676 (http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-53200-19255-0/1?campid=5335818596&toolid=10001&mpre=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.co.uk%2FBMW-3-SERIES-E46-WINDOW-SWITCH-DRIVERS-SIDE-COUPE-CONV-%2F250634487414%3Fcmd%3DViewItem%26amp%3Bpt%3DUK_C arsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM%26amp%3Bhash%3Ditem3 a5afac676)

Thats just a convertible switch, you can open and close all 4 windows at the same time with the second switch.

[mystert]

Ok, so lookin on realoem again, it appears that all the GM5 modules are the same, the switches are the same after doing some research, so its gotta be in the GM5 coding.

Anyone in Europe with Inpa/NCS expert working and a coupe with auto close side windows that could email or post the FSW/PSW of their GM5 module??? Id really like to compare this with the USA version

[TerraPhantm]

We should try to build a database of some sort that has the default ECE and US FPW/PSWs of all the various modules for each model car(E36, E39, E46, etc...). It'd be great if we can have all the information organized to some central location like a wiki; right now everything's way too scattered... being on private forums and/or polish websites.

Maybe I'll try starting up some kind of wiki if my buddy will give me some space on his website.


Sigh. Do YOU read? It is trying to find a pinch sensor, there is not one, so it won't allow you to close the window and throws a code. It makes perfect sense.

In your mind, you thought you had a vagina, and you tried as you could to make a baby, would it happen? No.

Coupes/Verts dont have the second click up.

You can activate it all you want (including pinch sensor, which doesn't exist), you need a new rear switch, regardless of vert/coupe!!!

I'm not so sure a pinch sensor is necessarily required... as far as I was able to tell, my friend's X3 didn't have any pinch sensors, but the windows still had auto-up functionality; I tried closing the windows with a stick in the way, and the windows just kept trying to close even w/ the resistance. I know it's a different car, but they are very similar to E46s electrically, so it should be doable.

[Snowcatxx87]

^ I've noticed you're charging people on E46F for coding - be careful, you can Screw up cars man...

[TerraPhantm]

^ I've noticed you're charging people on E46F for coding - be careful, you can fuck up cars man...

well that's why I'm not doing it for free... just incase I mess up and have to pay up to fix it. I'm only offering to do features which I've personally verified haven't messed up my own car, so I'm not too concerned. A lot of people seem to generally want the features available, so I figure it's a good way to get it to people if they're not comfortable w/ coding themselves.

[Snowcatxx87]

well that's why I'm not doing it for free... just incase I mess up and have to pay up to fix it. I'm only offering to do features which I've personally verified haven't messed up my own car, so I'm not too concerned. A lot of people seem to generally want the features available, so I figure it's a good way to get it to people if they're not comfortable w/ coding themselves.

Like I said, be careful. That's what I though, similar features on similar cars. Doesn't work that way. I couldn't NCS 05+ cars either. Like I said, I also destroyed two modules.

Which are you using to write to the module? CODEIREN?

[TerraPhantm]

Like I said, be careful. That's what I though, similar features on similar cars. Doesn't work that way. I couldn't NCS 05+ cars either. Like I said, I also destroyed two modules.

Which are you using to write to the module? CODEIREN?
I'm using SG_CODIEREN IIRC. I also couldn't work with an 05 M3 coupe at first (though oddly enough an 05 sedan I have access to worked fine), but I updated the daten files w/ ones from progman v30, and it picked up the car just fine after that.

After I get SSS running properly, I'll probably use that for most of the simpler features (DRL delete, visual lock/unlock activation, car/key memory, etc..) and reserve NCS only for those features that aren't available through normal means.

Kinda unrelated question: I saw in another thread that you used some software (SSS iirc) to change the region of your vehicle fron canada to US; are you able to change it to other regions too? EU perhaps? Maybe that'd be a way of getting those other default FSW_PSWs to compare.

[Snowcatxx87]

SSS overrides NCS. If you do anything in SSS, you loose your NCS custom manipulations. Why? Because it's not in the Vehicle Order. It'll save the values it knows, but it won't do the ones that aren't part of the VO.

For example. I "activated" my alarm via NCS (using all the values, interior sensor, tilt sensor, lights), but in SSS the options for the alarm didn't show.

I performed the vehicle retrofitted the "alarm" in SSS, this in turn updated the VO, and than 30 mins later, I had options for the alarm. In NCS, where it says, Vehicle FA_xxx$xxx$xxx$xxx$xxx$ ?? XXX = retrofits, modules, etc. For example, alarm is something like $S02? FA is your VO. Vehicle Order. It's how the computer knows what the car has.

Long story short- If you do anything in SSS regarding CKM, or GM module, you'll have lost your custom values. (Pain in da azz!)

Can you explain to me updating the daten files? This is perhaps why I cannot talk to a mini! (05)

[TerraPhantm]

SSS overrides NCS. If you do anything in SSS, you loose your NCS custom manipulations. Why? Because it's not in the Vehicle Order. It'll save the values it knows, but it won't do the ones that aren't part of the VO.

For example. I "activated" my alarm via NCS (using all the values, interior sensor, tilt sensor, lights), but in SSS the options for the alarm didn't show.

I performed the vehicle retrofitted the "alarm" in SSS, this in turn updated the VO, and than 30 mins later, I had options for the alarm. In NCS, where it says, Vehicle FA_xxx$xxx$xxx$xxx$xxx$ ?? XXX = retrofits, modules, etc. For example, alarm is something like $S02? FA is your VO. Vehicle Order. It's how the computer knows what the car has.

Long story short- If you do anything in SSS regarding CKM, or GM module, you'll have lost your custom values. (Pain in da azz!)

Can you explain to me updating the daten files? This is perhaps why I cannot talk to a mini! (05)

Yea sure. If you browse through the progman DVDs, in \CIP-Installer\bin, you'll noticed a bunch of zip files that are labeled sp-daten-E**. Inside the zip (let's say sp-daten-E46 for example) there's a folder called "daten". The files in this folder correspond to the files found in \NCSEXPER\DATEN\E46, just newer versions. Now that I look at it, the folders cfgdat, and sgdat also probably contain updated files, but I didn't touch those. After updating the files, I was able to access an 05 E46 M3 that was erroring out originally. I'm still able to communicate with my other cars (2003 330i ZHP, and 2005 330xi) just fine.

Definitely a pain in the ass that SSS overwrites the stuff coded by NCS... I remember the stuff I changed though, so it could be worse

That VO, is there a complete listing of what each one means? I saw instructions on the 4shared site for changing the VO, but seems kinda useless to do so without knowing the various bits and pieces

[mimi123]

Is one touch close available for rear windows?? Ive looked at the FSW/PSW file for the GM5 module and was able to disable rear window opening with the key (until I can get the rear windows to one touch close), and enable foglights on with hi beams in the lighting module, but i cant seem to figure how to get the rear windows to one touch close.

All my KOMFORT____ settings were acktiv except for KOMFORTOEFFNEN_FB_O_FH_HI :. I made it acktiv and im not sure exactly what it did. Any ideas?

Im using NCS Expert

I´m interested in get the rear windows to one touch close, I supose with closing key on remote control.
Do you know what option or options have I to modify?

[Snowcatxx87]

I just tried a SEDAN switch, the one with dual clicks on both up.down for both front and rear windows, everything worked EXCEPT AUTO CLOSE.

This was with the file manipulated for autoclose. sigh. No luck yet.

[mystert]

I ordred and Ediabas cable from ebay, gotta wait 2 weeks for it to get here from china, until then, im stuck too. Where you able to change the country of the GM5 to a european country (NOT UK) and do it that way?

[Snowcatxx87]

I have not had a chance yet. My laptop is too crappy to run SSS, so i have to lug out my desktop lol!

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9603/img00167201005311750.jpg

[mystert]

dude! i live in an apt on the second floor, I have to throw a extension cord out the bathroom window to run the battery charger and power my laptop if i wanna use it for more than 30 minutes. Oh yeah, i live in florida, and its 95 today, its HOT and sweaty! I feel your pain

[TerraPhantm]

I just tried a SEDAN switch, the one with dual clicks on both up.down for both front and rear windows, everything worked EXCEPT AUTO CLOSE.

This was with the file manipulated for autoclose. sigh. No luck yet.

I think it has to be possible... Just for the sake of messing around, I recoded my GM5 to coupe settings by changing my VO so that the car identifies itself as a coupe. I confirmed that the coupe settings were in place, because when I opened the door, the window rolled down a tiny bit, and the rear windows would roll down 1-touch, but not roll up. I then manipulated the fsw_psw in NCS, and enabled the 1-touch roll up, and it DID work.

Now I know I don't have a real coupe, but my GM5 was coded as a coupe and the 1-touch did work.

Try recoding your GM5 to that of a sedan, and try closing the rear windows. Just be careful w/ opening the front door since they won't roll down that little bit under the sedan settings.

[Snowcatxx87]

Doubt it meng. I had the custom fsw AND sedan switch. No luck. You have pinch sensors in the back, thats what allowed it. We don't. My guess.

[TerraPhantm]

Doubt it meng. I had the custom fsw AND sedan switch. No luck. You have pinch sensors in the back, thats what allowed it. We don't. My guess.
Doesn't the comfort close via remote work for you? Tripping the pinch sensor stops it from working on my car. You'd think if that function works, other functions dependent on the pinch sensor would also work.

Can you plug in a pinch sensor and just make it so that it never trips? The general modules are the same, just coding is different. It has to be possible.

edit: i just checked the psw; the rear pinch sensor is disabled the coding. If anything is preventing the one-touch close, it's not the pinch sensor.

[Snowcatxx87]

That's why, from factory, the rear coupe comfort close is / never will be enabled via the dealers - simply because there is no pinch sensor.

I might have been one of the firsts to get the coupe vents to close via switch because I was asked a lot about it on e46F.

[TerraPhantm]

Right, but my point is you were still able to enable the functionality while not having pinch sensors. Did your sedan switches work with the switch up in 1-stage? They don't work on an actual sedan if the pinch sensor is tripped.

[Colbiocin]

Hello

I registred just to give you an info about the second click ( one touch close - power window close ) for coupe ( maybe others ). It exists but is physically blocked by a plastic :)). You DO NOT need to buy or change the buttons. All you have to do is cut that small plastic and code the options in the car. I did the plastic and now wait to find an interface to code.
This post showed me what I needed. Hope I am allowed to post the link

forums dot bimmerforums dot com/forum/showthread.php?t=1502871

[BMWPlanetDude]

I have not had a chance yet. My laptop is too crappy to run SSS, so i have to lug out my desktop lol!

http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/9603/img00167201005311750.jpg

You are missing the beer dude!

Epic picture nonetheless :D

[ccfj1]

Like colbiocin says, no new switches required, just mod your own.

Take your switches apart and cut out the small plastic lip on the rear switch housing that stops the double pull.

I have done this on quite a few cars now and it works like a charm.

You need to also code the GM, with.

FH_TUEREN_HINTEN_TIPP_AUF :rear window power down one touch (this has to be aktiv)
FH_TUEREN_HINTEN_TIPP_ZU : rear window power up one touch (this has to be aktiv)
FH_ZTR_SCHALTER_TIPP_AUF : window switch down one touch (this has to be aktiv)
FH_ZTR_SCHALTER_TIPP_ZU : window switch up one touch (this has to be aktiv)

Also I do these, however you will need to experiment with these as different (car) options (like sunroof) do different things to these settings.

KOMFORTOEFFNEN_FB_O_FH_HI :remote opens rear window (this has to be nicht_aktiv)
KOMFORTOEFFNEN_FB_O_SHD : holding open button on remote opens windows without sun roof (this has to be nicht_aktiv)

KOMFORTSCHLIE_FB_O_FH_HI : remote closes rear window (this has to be nicht_aktiv)
KOMFORTSCHLIE_FB_OHNE_SHD : holding close button on remote closes windows without sun roof (this has to be nicht_aktiv)

Coupe
KOMFORTOEFFNUNG_FB : opens all windows & sun roof on non convertible (this has to be aktiv)
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB : closes all windows &sun roof on non convertible (this has to be aktiv)

Convertible
KOMFORTOEFFNUNG_FB : convertible top opens by holding the open button on remote. (this has to be aktiv)
KOMFORTSCHLIESSUNG_FB : convertible top closes by holding the close button on remote. (this has to be aktiv)

MAUT_N_ABBRECH_N_TUER_AUF - windows carry on opening/closing even when you open the door (this has to be aktiv)

Other options

FTM/BTM:

SPIEGELABKLAPPEN_GM - folding mirrors with lock/unlock
SPIEGELMEMORY - gives you the option to change the mirror tilt value whilst it's in reverse

IHK:
1. DISPLAYANZEIGE_HIGH :temp. display on ihka shows HI if aktive 32*C if not aktive
2. DISPLAYANZEIGE_LOW :temp. display on ihka shows LO if aktive 16*C if not aktive


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