for those who know ...........only

[kolo92]

hey u wheel and tire guys i'm finally in the mood to get some wheels for the whip ,so i'm getting some 18 by 10 et+25 rear and 18 by 8.5 et +30 front for my E36, what do u guys think???



and for the douchebags who think they know more than Jesus....i don't care for your answers.

[slocar]

Cool story bro.

[luke318is]

I hear those tend to fall off

[kolo92]

look kids, can ya'll just answer the question..... i don't care for ya'll...i know these comments make ya'll feel cool but i really don't care for them so please save me and ya'll some time and let's just chill

[bfp9]

Getting on your high horse after 81 posts is going to end reallllll bad for you. I recommend you edit your OP and appreciate any help you get. But hell, what do i know?

[kolo92]

boy please !!! how's that getting on my high horse??? i only asked a question (stupid or not) and all i want is an answer ,not smart comments on how intelligent some of u guys are that's all. and i would appreciate the help .......if there was any that is!!<------------------that's what a forum is for right??!!

[bfp9]

I didn't quite understand your last post due to the minimal amounts of punctuation, could you rephrase it for me?

And for the advice you are looking for, the rear are 15mm under the recommended offset for an e36, and the fronts are 10mm off so i would guess that unless you are planning on running spacers, you would have severe issues in the rear especially, because of the width, and by issues i mean you would rub the strut. Of course you could always roll your fenders, but do the wheels really mean that much to you? Spacers would be a better option.

Good Luck!

[kolo92]

well see ...much better. That's all i wanted, thank you for your delightful input and yes i plan on getting spacers and roll the fenders, and yes the wheels mean that much to me. thanks again.
By the way: how do you find out the specs on E36 recommended wheel offsets if u don't mind me asking?

[bfp9]

I used google but often times the specs are in the e36 subsection and you can just search as well.

[GTRSv]

i dont get what your asking..like do we think its cool? lol i dont get it

[kolo92]

I don't care if anyone think it's cool.....since i'm not really versed in wheel offsets and such, i thought i'd ask on a forum where u guys talk about that all day....i was asking about the fitment issues and the proper steps to make them fit, and if they were to be an impossible fit, i would have just looked for other wheels until I'm satisfied. What is it with u guys,it was just a question. but thanks mr bfp9,asking this question in here was a form of reserch.

[M Quick]

The thing that triggers this thread to be so "helpful" is your last sentance in your first post in this thread. If you just didn't type that and ofcourse didn't have that topic you have, you would have gotten much more help.
Just sayin' so you don't get confused on why you're not getting the help so quickly and easy.


18x10 seems to be too way to wide for a 3series, but you can prolly fit it, but with alot of fender work and a not too wide tire.
The offset seems to be pretty good to fit up in the rear with that width. But i think you may need to elaborate with spacers.

E36 has an original offset of ET42.

The question is how wide tyres the e36 can swallow in the rear.

[luke318is]

look kids, can ya'll just answer the question..... i don't care for ya'll...i know these comments make ya'll feel cool but i really don't care for them so please save me and ya'll some time and let's just chill

ya'll mad

[easymoney]

Whoa! Attitude problem?

[kolo92]

thanks for your input MICHE, the only reason i typed that last sentence is because i asked that question in another thread and the same two first guys just came at me like straight up jackasses, completely forgetting the whole question. obviously the warning didn't do much and added more problems to it on top of that.But now i got my answer its all good, thanks.

[3two8eye]

Some bad info in this thread.

While it is true that stock offset for an e36 is around 40 this is for a wheel that is stock width. 7.5-8.5 inches.

A wheel that is 10 inches wide will require the a different offset to fit the same vehicle.

Clearances on the inside and outside of the wheel will come into play so having an appropriate offset is important. You will have to roll/flare your fenders and run a stretched tire.

And check your attitude at the door. While this is a forum to gather information no one here is compensated for providing you with answers. You can't be rude to people and expect people to kiss your ass. This isn't customer support at a large corporation.

Topics like this have been covered and the best thing to do is ask a member who has fit a similar setup to see what needs to be done to make it fit.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1176871&page=62

Page through this thread and check out some people's setups. I'm sure there is something like what you're talking about.

[kolo92]

by the way.....thanks

[OUSHark]

hey u wheel and tire guys i'm finally in the mood to get some wheels for the whip ,so i'm getting some 18 by 10 et+25 rear and 18 by 8.5 et +30 front for my E36, what do u guys think???



and for the douchebags who think they know more than Jesus....i don't care for your answers.


Ok, quick hint for future threads:

1. Ask specific questions, i.e. "will these offsets work" rather than "what do you guys think". Judging from your original post, my response to the later would be, "I think you're a prick", but of course, that's not what you're looking for.

2. Most everyone on the board did not see the other thread. Therefore, when you start your thread using the term "douchbags" with a fairly wide brush, you're going to get more flak than help. You started out with attitude, expect to get it back.

Let me show you something that would have likely gotten a completely different, and more helpful response:

"I've finally gotten around to getting new wheels and I have the opportunity to get some 18 by 10 et+25 rear and 18 by 8.5 et +30 front for my E36 that I really like. I'm a little new to wheels and not sure about the fit. Will these offsets work? Do I need spacers or fender roll?

Any help from those more knowledgable would be really appreciated."

Yes, it would require a little bit of humility, and that's obviously not your strong point, but if your goal is to get information, I'm sure you would get much better answers with much less bickering.

As for your question, the standard staggerd set for an e36 (non-M) was 7 1/2 et 41 up front and 8 1/2 et 41 in back. If you don't have a staggered set you can check your wheels here:

http://bmwfans.info/parts/catalog/E36/Coupe/USA/325is-M50/LHD/M/1994/july/browse/wheels/

The next website is GREAT for comparing widths and offsets:

http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

Using the standard E36 STAGGERED offsets:

Inside clearance for your new rear wheels is about 13mm (.5") less. This will likely be ok, but worst case is you would need a 10mm spacer for inside clearance. However, the wheels will stick out 35mm (1.4") more than the factory width and offset. If you have to add spacers, it will be 35mm plus the spacer.

On the fronts, your inside clearance will be fine, but they will stick out an additional 24mm (.94") more than the factory offset.

The TIRES you put on them will also affect the overal width of the tire/wheel assembly and affect clearances.

Go out to your car, hold a straight edge veritcally on the face of the existing tire and measure the distance to the inside of the fender. If your new offsets are going to push the wheel out beyond that, you will likely need to roll your fenders or accept some rubbing.

I don't have specific experience with the e36 so I don't know how much extra room you have between for wider wheels, but the methods I've described above should give you a good clue. If the e36 is anything like the Z3, my guess is your new wheels will not work well for you without rolling the fenders.

There, you wanted help. I gave you about every kind of help I can think of.

[kolo92]

well thank you for such a defined reply....
1. yes you are right they did not see the other thread, but since i've been on this forums it's always been the "douchebags" to be first to respond as if they were bmw gods.
2. Humility goes out the window after asking the exact same question 10 times even in the nicest way possible.... trust and believe I did.
3. nevertheless, I do agree that I need to be the bigger person and rise above the "douchebags" .
4. Big thanks to you again for actually taking the time to give such detailed answer, i will make good use of the info. By the way you are right about the fender rolling cause i finally got the wheels two days ago---------http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs468.ash1/25669_416743211014_789336014_5368402_5769179_n.jpg http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs468.ash1/25669_416743191014_789336014_5368400_7632365_n.jpg
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs468.snc3/25669_416743216014_789336014_5368403_7253599_n.jpg

[BMW TUNING]

Um, get ready for some rubbin! lol way to wide and low offset in the rear. imho

[mryakan]

Um, get ready for some rubbin! lol way to wide and low offset in the rear. imho
Not to mention illegal. You can easily be pulled over if they will stick out like that. From what little I know about Florida cops, they pull you over for the silliest things, well at least when I was in Orlando, which was mid 90s.

[BONTRAK]

Two thumbs way up for OUSHark. Great info! Also great feedback on communication and tone. You should be an executive coach!!

B On Trak

[downsouthdub]

roll the fenders, and throw a 225/40 on the 10 and you should still be able to get the tread under. i know a lot of people are going to say thats a lot of stretch, but i used to run a 215/45 on my 17x10 so its doable. good luck :thumbup:

[r1lukasz]

Is there any update on those rims? did you get on m3 with tires?

[WolfE30]

Looks like he did, posted here:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=19340177&postcount=1531

Please let us know how things worked out!

[canisM3]

update?