Keep the PTG spoiler or go new school?

[Don Nguyen]

As much as I am about performance, I am still down with doing it in/with style.

Keep the PTG wing on the car as, and keep the whole kit "original" as a homage to the original PTG car:

http://wannaberacer.com/4.jpg

http://wannaberacer.com/3.jpg

Or

Go new school and go big, with a straight element wing (less drag, more downforce as well actually):

Not exact spoiler, but same style/idea.
http://www.motorsport.com/photos/alms/2009/ra/alms-2009-ra-rs-0182.jpg

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/sethw30/ofest/other%20paddock/16d7a01d.jpg

-Don

[Mark Ostrowski]

I dunno, tough choice, i have a feeling that the newer spoiler would look out of place on the car...maybe not, but it definatly would be interesting to see either way car looks sick Don :D

[Don Nguyen]

More awesome pictures for no other reason than them being awesome, and that I found/saw while searching for pictures of the spoiler:

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Mike%20Garrett/1April/snap/lbpreview.jpg

http://motorsport.com/photos/alms/2009/seb/alms-2009-seb-eg-0349.jpg

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c65/TKK65/Long%20Beach%20Grand%20Prix%202009%20practice%20da y/DSC_0208.jpg?t=1268759606

http://ll.speedhunters.com/u/f/eagames/NFS/speedhunters.com/Images/Rod09/drivers%20guests/Tommy%20RLR/M3%20E36%20PTG%20racer%201997.jpg

http://ferraria.free.fr/Car%20Pictures/BMW/ptg_00cut.JPG

http://e46fanatics.com/features/images/PTG_main.jpg


I dunno, tough choice, i have a feeling that the newer spoiler would look out of place on the car...maybe not, but it definatly would be interesting to see

You don't get an opinion until I see your PTG kit installed on your car. Better not be making any new threads behind my back either :P

[EqualsM3Squared]

PTG all the way, no comparison in my opinion. It gives the car a distinct look.

[87shark]

Ptg!

[mpower5266]

PTG. It looks proper on the car. The other wing may be more performance minded, but it would look kinda ricey.

[MIGHTYMINI]

PTG. i dont think the other one would look right.

[Don Nguyen]

I forgot Alex has a similar wing on his car, with the same kit as mine:

http://www.abloriginalparts.com/pb/wp_81eecbc5/images/img174344eb257713b47.JPG

http://www.abloriginalparts.com/pb/wp_81eecbc5/images/img205546a57b6f7c6af.JPG

-Don

[Mauritius36]

as is. PTG ftw

[Don Nguyen]

Worse comes to worse is I'll just keep/have both spoilers.

I want something bigger. I also wouldn't mind freeing up some drag that the PTG spoiler causes.

[EuroCar]

So you ask for an opinion, say people don't get one and then proceed to just reject everyone...ok. Why bother making the thread?

[bmdubbayoo]

i personally vote ptg, but if you are going function over form, change it up...

[riffman12]

my vote is stop worrying about silly bmw's and post more pics of your 964 :shifty


in all seriousness, unless you really need more downforce I'd keep it OG

[Don Nguyen]

So you ask for an opinion, say people don't get one and then proceed to just reject everyone...ok. Why bother making the thread?

Cause I like to hear myself talk.


my vote is stop worrying about silly bmw's and post more pics of your 964 :shifty


in all seriousness, unless you really need more downforce I'd keep it OG

I'll get around to it one day. Ideally before I sell it.

[JZMIII]

ptg cause its og

[///Montizzle]

PTF is FTW

[kevinqjhps]

#2. It allows the spoiler lines to 'melt' more into the body lines. I am NOT an artist but one lived with me for three years and she showed me how lines 'blend' 'melt' or 'work against' each other.

[StealthBimmer]

Leave it alone

[mpower5266]

Do you actually track the car? If so I change my answer.

[e36mikee]

the ptg is styling, but i would definitely go for the other because performance is key on the track..


964 for sale? ill trade you my 92 325i and be your slave.. really though your 964 sparked a new love for me haha:buttrock

[carreraboy911]

Ptg !

[Relax]

I'd go for a new wing. I just think they look so badass, and I always feel sad when I go to track days and look at all the race cars with big wings :( Makes me wish I had one.

[s52e368]

i wnat that 964

[APXDDM-OC]

I think its time for a change Don, Do it big buddy. Get the new wing.

-Geoff

[Don Nguyen]

I'll also probably get better gas milage on the streets as well, with the new spoiler.


the ptg is styling, but i would definitely go for the other because performance is key on the track..


964 for sale? ill trade you my 92 325i and be your slave.. really though your 964 sparked a new love for me haha:buttrock

Sorry, all of the slave spots are already tentatively filled. I'll let you know if anything changes.


i wnat that 964

Do it. It's for sale, as well as my vert.


I think its time for a change Don, Do it big buddy. Get the new wing.

-Geoff

Let me know when you're ready to do the 4dr PTG.

[lStarscreaMl]

Amazing car. Keep it original.

[riffman12]

Do it. It's for sale, as well as my vert.


wat

info on 964 / link to sale thread

[Don Nguyen]

1992 964 C4, 125k, coilovers, wheels, sound system, etc/misc. Simple as that.

Once it's officially up for sale, then I'll make a thread for it. Although most on here are probably not prepared to spend ~$20k on a car that's almost 2 decades old.

[MBe36]

If you are competing do whatever optomizes performance. If looks- PTG ALL THE WAY!! I really like all the cars you have ever posted.

[M3Alpine99]

Ptg?

[336motorsports]

Definatly stay with the PTG...

Can we get some pics of the interior? Are those status seats?

[Sunako]

I say keep it OG.

[Sammyzuko]

http://www.abloriginalparts.com/pb/wp_81eecbc5/images/img174344eb257713b47.JPG

If you're racing competitively, do what gives you the best performance. Although, after seeing this picture ^ I'd personally stick with the PTG wing.

[acolella76]

PTG all the way... unless you need the downforce then switch it up. Either way, looks sick.

[Don Nguyen]

I do not compete competitively. Too much work. I just go out there, have fun, and then drive home.

I think the spoiler on his car may only look weird, because of the way the mounts look. Dare I even say, it's almost too big?

[SpasticDwarf]

Go crazy.
Like this guy.

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/E36RB26_1.jpg

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/E36RB26_4.jpg

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/E36RB26_6.jpg

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/E36RB26_3.jpg

[Mad Dog 20/20]

Don, your car is just one massive lactating titty. I would not change a thing.

Stay true to the theme, keep the PTG.

[jhstealth]

I say if you do go new keep both because the ptg looks best.

[riffman12]

stack them on top of each other

yo dawg i heard you like spoilers

[NakNak]

You can guess my vote :D

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1408343

[GTRSv]

dont change it!

[Don Nguyen]

Spastic - I've seen that car before. That DBM car is a King among peasants. I want his front lip (same bumper as mine, flossman), rear canards, and spoiler. Yes please. However, considering it is one huge piece with the trunk, I can only imagine the shipping costs of that thing.

Naknak - I've seen you thread, so I know where you stand ;) That spoiler is one of the possibilities. However, it's on the small side. Since I don't compete in any sort of class, I am not restricted to sizes that most of those spoilers are built to/for.

[SpasticDwarf]

Spastic - I've seen that car before. That DBM car is a King among peasants. I want his front lip (same bumper as mine, flossman), rear canards, and spoiler. Yes please. However, considering it is one huge piece with the trunk, I can only imagine the shipping costs of that thing.

Naknak - I've seen you thread, so I know where you stand ;) That spoiler is one of the possibilities. However, it's on the small side. Since I don't compete in any sort of class, I am not restricted to sizes that most of those spoilers are built to/for.

Seeing as how it seems to be a common trend for items to be mistreated during shipping these days, as well as shipping from the Netherlands, I wouldn't want to ship it either. Pretty gnarly setup though.

And for what its worth, I think I'd like to see a "new school" spoiler on your car. It sounds as though you have no qualms buying one and keeping both spoilers... Sounds like a win/win to me. Money doesn't grow on trees though.

http://www.scottsdalemotorsport.com/images/Img240.gif

[Don Nguyen]

It's not a cheap hobby/direction I have gone with my car, and I've accepted it. However, as long as I am still having fun, it's worth it to me.

I think enough people have convinced me that the old wing does complete the car. However, I've also kinda decided myself that the car can/will potentially look good and perform better with a new wing. Now to just find the right one.

BTW, I liked the warplane shark design you did on your car, from a picture I saw somewhere. I wanted to do something like that to my car/helmet, but I just couldn't get it to flow with the rest of the car correctly.

I like that kind of stuff. Only thing I was able to do for my car, with the nose art type art/theme was this on my rear spoiler upright.

http://www.wannaberacer.com/misc/IMG00150.jpg

[Devo540]

og wing or both on top of each other

[JETninja]

PTG all the way Don. It flows with the kit's...E36's are all about angles.

Go to the Saturday ALMS race at the LBGP and see all those cars in your pics...

[raoke]

A larger wing will only help with downforce/performance at certain speeds. I doubt you will actually get to use the full potential of a huge wing most of the time unless you're pushing it on the straight.

I know you're new motor can definitely benefit from it, but for looks I'd still stick with the ptg as its not as 'crazy' as the bigger wing and will still be pretty optimal.

[Don Nguyen]

It'll actually help at all speeds. However, it'll be more obvious at higher speeds.

Taken from a discussion about wings in the track forum section right now:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=18951147&postcount=65

-Don

[Msilvia]

PTG ftw. that is all.

[NotNewtoBFCOT]

The fuck happened to your faux carbon S2k thread?

[The Boston GRUN]

leave it alone cause this looks awful......http://www.abloriginalparts.com/pb/wp_81eecbc5/images/img174344eb257713b47.JPG

[ducky328i]

ptg

[rGrissM3]

I think ptg works the best, but the badassery of one of those large wings is intriguing.