Hydraulic handbrake

[philip77o]

Hi, Does anyone know how hydraulic handbrakes work ? I know there is a master but is it connected to the rear calipers ?

thanks !

[protomor]

it goes in line between the front and rear brakes. It only actuates the rear calipers.

OR you could be cool and run your own brake lines and use second calipers for it.

[philip77o]

it goes in line between the front and rear brakes. It only actuates the rear calipers.

OR you could be cool and run your own brake lines and use second calipers for it.

Thanks, does anyone have one here ? Or does the stock cable handbrake is strong enough ?

[rpm620]

just get a hydro ebrake there so much better for locking up the rear. the factory one is not enough.

all you do is run your rear brake line inside the car to the hydo ebrake master.. and back out to your rearbrakes. the brakes still act normal.. but when you pull or push the hydro ebrake it will lock up the rear calipers.

[Piner]

I have one in my car, and I would definitely recommend running a separate set of calipers in the rear if you do go hydro. Bleeding is such a pain in the ass when you run it inline. Also there is that weird interference with the foot brake if you touch both at the same time. The rear wheels will lock up and stay locked even after you let go of the hydro and you have to pump the foot brake like 5-6 times before they will fully release. Its a pain in the dick sometimes.

[protomor]

see I'm scared of that... but I'm not confident in my fab skills to run a whole other brake setup. How can you secure another set of calipers to the rear?

[philip77o]

see I'm scared of that... but I'm not confident in my fab skills to run a whole other brake setup. How can you secure another set of calipers to the rear?

Same thing for me... I would like to see what it looks like. My trailing arms are currently out of the car I could give it a try if I knew what caliper to use.

[Dominic49]

why not use a rebuilt stock setup? i ran a hydro setup and even did a write up but then removed it because it is alot worse then a stock cable setup with an extended handle


K.I.S.S.

[philip77o]

why not use a rebuilt stock setup? i ran a hydro setup and even did a write up but then removed it because it is alot worse then a stock cable setup with an extended handle


K.I.S.S.

Can you provide the link of your write up ?

[protomor]

I keep breaking my stock E-brake. but thats mainly because the retainer for the pin is rusted out. It's annoying to fix. To replace the rusted part, I have to remove the wheel bearing. well the hub but the inner race of the wheel bearing always comes with it.

I have some spare front calipers lying around. I wonder if I can just find a spare stock master, run some lines and have a free second set of calipers on my ass?

[philip77o]

I did a quick search and I found that brembo sell handbrake calipers.

[sweet e36 pimp]

check out the K-sport "awesome handle" iirc they sell for under $200.

[Piner]

nah stay away from the ksports if you can, they look cool but the master cyl is china boop and goes bad very quickly . Powered by max or comp brake make the best hydro's.

Well Sean Love is working on a setup for the E36 that would use a set of 4 piston calipers for the rear and each caliper has a seperate brake curcuit. So the two pistons on the top are seperate from the 2 pistons on the bottom. Meaning you can run your ebrake to half of the caliper and your normal brakes through the other half.

Im not sure when he will be done but I do know he is in the process of test fitting it.
I am waiting for his setup to be done before I reconfigure my system.

You could also use another stock caliper and cut off a bracket from a junk car or another set of trailing arms and swap sides so the bleeders will be right side up cut your backing plate and mount the calipers forward of the normal ones.

This is a similar setup on a 03 mustang cobra
http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc50/rhythm_drifting/?action=view&current=103_2141.jpg

[henrinaiara]

what a good hydraulic..wow

[sweet e36 pimp]

nah stay away from the ksports if you can, they look cool but the master cyl is china boop and goes bad very quickly . Powered by max or comp brake make the best hydro's.



Thanks for info. Glad I am aware of this before buying one.

[s50b30]

nah stay away from the ksports if you can, they look cool but the master cyl is china boop and goes bad very quickly . Powered by max or comp brake make the best hydro's.

Well Sean Love is working on a setup for the E36 that would use a set of 4 piston calipers for the rear and each caliper has a seperate brake curcuit. So the two pistons on the top are seperate from the 2 pistons on the bottom. Meaning you can run your ebrake to half of the caliper and your normal brakes through the other half.

Im not sure when he will be done but I do know he is in the process of test fitting it.
I am waiting for his setup to be done before I reconfigure my system.

You could also use another stock caliper and cut off a bracket from a junk car or another set of trailing arms and swap sides so the bleeders will be right side up cut your backing plate and mount the calipers forward of the normal ones.

This is a similar setup on a 03 mustang cobra
http://s218.photobucket.com/albums/cc50/rhythm_drifting/?action=view&current=103_2141.jpg


is there enough room to run extra calipers?

[rpm620]

that is what im going to do on my E30 im going to get anothe set of trailing arms and cut them up.

[blindboxx2334]

it goes in line between the front and rear brakes. It only actuates the rear calipers.

OR you could be cool and run your own brake lines and use second calipers for it.
zip ties:0

why dont you tap into just the rear brake line by the master cylinder??? hrdro e brakes dont have anything to do with the front brake..

see I'm scared of that... but I'm not confident in my fab skills to run a whole other brake setup. How can you secure another set of calipers to the rear?
i thought about this.. i can draw in autoCAD pretty good, im going to school to be a mechanical engineer in a couple of months, but you would just have to draw up some custom caliper brackets, just gotta make sure you have the right measurements.. but honestly, if i buy an e30, my 300zx aluminum calipers are already going to be a pain in the ass, so im not going to worry about a seconday rear caliper.

speaking of drafting, im in drafting 4 right now:icon28XX

[SLR]

nah stay away from the ksports if you can, they look cool but the master cyl is china boop and goes bad very quickly . Powered by max or comp brake make the best hydro's.

Well Sean Love is working on a setup for the E36 that would use a set of 4 piston calipers for the rear and each caliper has a seperate brake curcuit. So the two pistons on the top are seperate from the 2 pistons on the bottom. Meaning you can run your ebrake to half of the caliper and your normal brakes through the other half.

Im not sure when he will be done but I do know he is in the process of test fitting it.
I am waiting for his setup to be done before I reconfigure my system.



Have 6 of these calipers at the shop right now. I'll over to Harri's place in the next day or so and try them out on an E36 rear end he has laying around.

If I hadn't throw away so much crap during last years move I'd have the setup prototyped already.

Oh and personally the compbrake hydraulic is nice. It has pedal interference, but never experienced the locking issue. To be completely fair though I'm not sure if Ive ever tried foot-braking while on the handbrake. Usually use aggressive entries and throw the car and then just add a lil handbrake to extend if needed, havent driven too many twisty technical courses where you're transitioning between throttle handbrake and footbrake constantly...... sigh... drift Matsuuri how I long for you......