any serious 6er racecars out there now?

[jmitro]

So my E36 racecar has been developed about as much as I care to do, except for some fiberglass doors, cams, standalone engine mgmt, shocks, etc. etc. It's a great racecar, but......

the wheels are turnin'. :cool A 6 series racecar seems like a really fun project, and different. The aftermarket for an E24-based 6 series racecar project that is competitive in current competition (BMWCCA, NASA, SCCA) looks pretty slim. I'm referring to adequate suspension upgrades, brake upgrades, chassis reinforcement, fiberglass body parts, wings, etc etc.

Anybody know of any current racecars in amateur (or even pro) competition and where they obtain parts?


I'd love to see photos. :D

[Seeker]

So my E36 racecar has been developed about as much as I care to do,
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I'd love to see photos. :D



So would we! :D

Your car that is.

[6erWEBB]

I have plans in the works for a street driven track car...may be a while though.

[jmitro]

So would we! :D

Your car that is.

LOL:
you asked for it!!!
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=528816

[DaHose]

Erik Brannfors.

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/

Jose

[Taylor Marshall]

Dave Read from Toronto:

http://www.turbochargingdynamics.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=18

The other (black) 6er owned by Ivan in one of the above linked photos unhappily got done in by a track fire at the Mont Tremblant circuit and is the car that Todd, Dave, Val and myself pulled apart last Spring before despatching the carcass to the scrapyard.

Here's a pic I took of Dave's car at that time.

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=65692NBQmL&i=13364


and the dismembering:

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=65692NBQmL&i=14106


a small part of the organ harvest:

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=65692NBQmL&i=14105




and the carcass :(

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=65692NBQmL&i=13357

Note the missing world bumpers .....wonder where they went to :)

[Alex E24 E30]

Erik Brannfors.

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/

Jose


This car was featured in Rondel or some other BMW specality magazine, wasn't it?

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Generally, I like the idea of a street-going track car, and have often wondered about procuring/making fiberglass parts for E24's.



Alex

[jbd5015]

Anything can be made!

You could turn the 6 into something special with enough time and effort and $$$, we all know that.

I think suspension wouldnt be that big of a hurdle. coil-over systems are available, and you can have your own springs made once you have spring dimensions decided.

Brakes? You can install 850 calipers on the front, and E32s on the rear. Or i think with adapter plates you could go for a more custom, lighter set-up.

A pipe-bender, tubing, hole saw, MIG welder, some plate and sheet steel, and time would be all youd need to make a stiffer car. My dads friend just rented a bender and built a custom cage for their 2002 driving school car.

Its really just time and money. You could make a pretty serious car, but in the end it would still be an E24, which isnt a popular racing platform at all. I think I would LOVE to make an E24 racer if i had the space and time later in life. Id do all of the above, and then some! Building a cage would be the tricky part though...

-Jeff

[jmitro]

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/

Jose

cool link, thanks. good info there.



Generally, I like the idea of a street-going track car, and have often wondered about procuring/making fiberglass parts for E24's.

I'd love it!!! I've started a little fiberglassing myself....real basic. No molds or anything. Just patching stuff. It would be a fun (but time consuming!!) project



Its really just time and money. You could make a pretty serious car, but in the end it would still be an E24, which isnt a popular racing platform at all. I think I would LOVE to make an E24 racer if i had the space and time later in life. Id do all of the above, and then some! Building a cage would be the tricky part though...

None of it is intimidating to me, since I built almost all my E36 myself. My concern lies more in the lack of aftermarket support and lack of development to make the car competitive, since the E24 is not a popular platform (as you pointed out). In other words, I know what will make my E36 better and faster because LOTS of other racers have already done the trial-and-error work before me, and there's lots of internet info available to help me. The aftermarket support is huge, compared to the limited aftermarket for the 6 (at least almost all the advertisers focus on track oriented parts for the 3 series).

but it would sure be a fun project......:redspot



and the carcass :(

http://mydrive.roadfly.com/photos/pic.php?u=65692NBQmL&i=13357

:)

perfect race car candidate!!!:)

[Captain Bavaria]

http://www.josejuantorres.com/

Also.
I have an '87 L6 parts car I stripped the interior from. As I get around to parting the rest of it out- it may have a decent shell to start from.

[Alex E24 E30]

I'd love it!!! I've started a little fiberglassing myself....real basic. No molds or anything. Just patching stuff. It would be a fun (but time consuming!!) project



Well...I have been slowly developing my plans for hopping up one of my E24's in the performance division, and lightweight body panels only aid in that venture.

Hopefully, I'll be able to chip away at my ideas and see what I come up with.


Alex

[Zack01GC]

http://bringatrailer.com/2008/03/18/red-six-1985-bmw-635csi-track-car/

http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/1985_BMW_635csi_Track_Car_Rear_1.jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/1985_BMW_635csi_Track_Car_Front_1.jpg
http://bringatrailer.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/03/1985_BMW_635csi_Track_Car_Interior_1.jpg

[jmitro]

I have an '87 L6 parts car I stripped the interior from. As I get around to parting the rest of it out- it may have a decent shell to start from.

where are you located?



Well...I have been slowly developing my plans for hopping up one of my E24's in the performance division, and lightweight body panels only aid in that venture.

cool, I'll be interested to see what happens. :redspot


[URL]http://bringatrailer.com/2008/03/18/red-six-1985-bmw-635csi-track-car/


I'd be all over that car, except the ad is from March/08. Probably sold by now. Any idea where that car is located or how to contact the owner?

[Idriftane30]

that white e24 racer is sick!

[Tex707]

That was a fun thread to browse. Thank you.

[Zack01GC]

No idea, but apparently they don't like my hotlinking.

Apparently the owner was hard to contact to begin with, judging by some of those comments.

[Shipper]

Try here, and here ect

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/3865/BMW_635_CSI_Original_EX__DTM_winning_race_car.html

http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listing/23001/BMW_635_CSi.html

[Captain Bavaria]

where are you located?


Tulsa :buttrock

[Idriftane30]

does anybody have any interior shots of the red e24? ive been trying to find pics of an e24 with 2 race seats in it for awhile

[jmitro]

did you click on the link?

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/m6_cage/

[Idriftane30]

did you click on the link?

http://www.brannfors.com/redsharkracing/m6_cage/

i did now lol

[CW6er]

Here are the brake swap/up-grades for plenty of stopping power, or if you're getting real serious, talk to Alpniacsi. He manufactures racing brakes and has an Alpnia Six that he has rebuilt, so I imagine he would know.
http://bigcoupe.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2137&highlight=brakes

Ground Control (http://www.ground-control-store.com/products/search.php) makes coil-overs and front camber/caster plates for the Six

http://www.ground-control-store.com/images/datapage/2015_dp.jpg

The camber/caster plate, note the side to side caster adjustment (coil-overs only):
http://www.ground-control-store.com/images/datapage/CCPE28_dp.jpg

Metric Mechanic (http://www.metricmechanic.com/) or better yet, Frank Fahey (http://www.frankfaheymotorsports.com/) for the engines.

Metric Mechanic (http://www.metricmechanic.com/) for the Transmissions and rear Axles. They are best known for this, as they started business modifying the synchros in the factory transmissions for racing.

Here is a source for custom radiators: http://bigcoupe.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=10926&

Power Flex for the bushings, or better yet, there are several threads on BigCoupe about putting Spherical Bearings in the front thrust arms and the rear trailing arms.

Ireland Engineering (http://www.iemotorsport.com/) for headers, sway bars and front and rear camber kits: This is the racing kit for use with coil-overs, they have a street kit also:
(If the image doesn't open) (http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?RowID=208&CS=ireland&All=)
https://store.nexternal.com/ireland/images/e30camber21.JPG

the rear kit (any car):
(If the image doesn't open) (http://store.nexternal.com/shared/StoreFront/product_detail.asp?RowID=210&CS=ireland&All=)
https://store.nexternal.com/ireland/images/E30RearCamberToeKit1.jpg

[e24mpwr]

Brannfors rocks.

Fahey will cost you a pretty penny (I can show you the receipts from my car from 1988!)

[Turbo Charg Dynam]

I have your car. 1986 M635 rolling chassis no sunroof car. $3250 as it sits with no drivetrain. Has billy sports, eibachs and a new adj rear subframe. Call me at 414-712-5201 if interested. Located in Milwaukee, WI. I also a 4pt roll bar for $200.

http://www.turbochargingdynamics.com/Gallery/pics/924_1259764691.jpg

[jmitro]

I have your car. 1986 M635 rolling chassis no sunroof car. $3250 as it sits with no drivetrain. Has billy sports, eibachs and a new adj rear subframe. Call me at 414-712-5201 if interested. Located in Milwaukee, WI. I also a 4pt roll bar for $200.


wanna trade for a 87 635 with 5 spd swap? :D

[Turbo Charg Dynam]

wanna trade for a 87 635 with 5 spd swap? :D

Possibly. Email me info please. tcd@turbochargingdynamics.com

[///Malcontent]

Brannfors rocks.

Fahey will cost you a pretty penny (I can show you the receipts from my car from 1988!)

I think Mike Yaskin at Bavarian Specialties in King of Prussia, PA is an excellent resource too. He used to run a bad-ass E28 M5 (same chassis as >'83 E24) in BMW CCA racing. I also had an ex-Donohue IMSA Bridgestone Supercar E34 M5. Of course since Ed Arnold prepared those cars, he's also well versed in older BMW chassis (Google his Targa Newfoundland car).

[86GT635]

Yea, but from what I remember, Yaskin had a m635 too. Which was also bad-ass. Also was sold recently for 7000, maybe. Nice looking car, with a littttttle bit of suspension work, nothing compared in the scheme of things for the 88 m5. I guess the chassis is better in terms of 80's machine. I would still rather have a good r' looking racecar than a 4 door... unless it's a japanese car.