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Stir Fry A Lot
10-24-2009, 11:33 AM
I think I'd prefer to have my car with non assisted steering. Is there an easy/easily reversable way to do this?
Chinman
10-24-2009, 12:00 PM
Usually vehicles with power steering have a different steering ratio to their non-power counterparts. Unless you removed the pump and changed out the steering box to one with the lower (numerically higher) ratio, steering an E34 with just the power steering pump removed would be a total bitch.

Personal experience: I had an '83 Buick Park Avenue and the power steering belt broke while making a turn. It took both hands and all my strength to steer it around that corner.
russiankid
10-24-2009, 12:08 PM
Run a shorter belt. Have the belt rap around the crank pulley, alt, and water pump. Done.
5mall5nail5
10-24-2009, 12:13 PM
Theres a belt you can run thats shorter to not going around the P/S, I did it, its unbearable. It lasted like 2 days before I put P/S back in. That was on 4" wide tires too.
janders211
10-24-2009, 12:21 PM
You can loop the lines to bypass the pump - this makes steering easier than just removing the belt. Not sure how easy this is on an e34 though.

When you just remove the belt- you're fighting to move fluid through the system, when you bypass the pump, and just loop the lines at the rack the fluid moves around with less resistance - but still more difficult than a car with a 'from the factory' manual rack as mentioned above.

There are also usually ways to dissassemble the rack, and remove some restrictions withing the rack, and repack with grease- making it even a little more bearable - but I wouldn't do it on a non-track car.
russiankid
10-24-2009, 12:26 PM
^^ E34's don't have racks.
Binjammin
10-24-2009, 12:34 PM
You do NOT want this. Trust me. The car will be virtually undriveable.
Steve547i
10-24-2009, 01:58 PM
I had to drive my car about a mile from where I pulled over with no p/s. My waterpump went and threw the belts. Its unbearable to drive it like that
bigsixe34
10-24-2009, 02:40 PM
you know when you hit a puddle around a corner in the rain and you lose almost all ability to turn the wheel for a split second?
imagine that all the time :(
p1zz4guy
10-24-2009, 03:32 PM
I think I'd prefer to have my car with non assisted steering. Is there an easy/easily reversable way to do this?

Bored since i540/porche got banned?
moroza
10-24-2009, 03:41 PM
Really bad idea.

Borrow my truck for a couple of days and see how you like factory non-assisted steering on 3" skinnies with at least 2* of positive camber up front.

If you want heavier steering without it being unusuable, get a Servotronic box. If my 535i doesn't sell whole I can sell you its 87k mile Servo box.
Stir Fry A Lot
10-24-2009, 04:54 PM
Bored since i540/porche got banned?
:(

Really bad idea.

Borrow my truck for a couple of days and see how you like factory non-assisted steering on 3" skinnies with at least 2* of positive camber up front.

If you want heavier steering without it being unusuable, get a Servotronic box. If my 535i doesn't sell whole I can sell you its 87k mile Servo box.
Sounds good. Keep me posted.
nmp411
10-24-2009, 06:07 PM
Bored since i540/porche got banned?
I lol'd!
cis8vgti
10-24-2009, 06:58 PM
You do NOT want this. Trust me. The car will be virtually undriveable.

Our cars came with power steering??!! :eek:
NbAmTwE
10-25-2009, 01:06 AM
Bored since i540/porche got banned?
why banned?
5mall5nail5
10-25-2009, 01:10 AM
why banned?

i forget why the first time, but then he followed it up by creating another account
nismoracer65789
10-25-2009, 01:11 AM
Being dumb:rofl
NbAmTwE
10-25-2009, 01:22 AM
Being dumb:rofl
very specific!







































:shifty...
nismoracer65789
10-25-2009, 01:29 AM
Haha bin will chime in about it
zubbie
10-25-2009, 07:44 AM
why banned?

for being the king of all trolls and starting the stupidest of all threads
ross1
10-25-2009, 09:07 AM
running your pump slower with a larger pulley will give you heavier steering if that's what your after
Stir Fry A Lot
10-25-2009, 10:50 AM
ok, that's what I was looking for, heavier steering. So I know the servo upgrade is possible since I have experienced it but has anyone ran a larger pulley or know where to source one to try it?
Stir Fry A Lot
10-27-2009, 11:46 AM
Bumpity Bump. Anybody have some information on running a larger PS pulley?
Steve547i
10-27-2009, 12:04 PM
Bumpity Bump. Anybody have some information on running a larger PS pulley?
Not sir, i have heard quite the opposite though, and it will be a mod i do

http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/udp/udp_info/description.htm
http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/udp/udp_info/about.htm