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Who has the fastest known nitrous S50/52/54 or.....???
Only saw Boki's 1/4 times...
Anyone else??
PEI330Ci
03-23-2009, 07:13 PM
Who has the fastest known nitrous S50/50/54 or.....???
Only saw Boki's 1/4 times...
Anyone else??
And what was Boki's time?
BadBoostedBmwM3
03-23-2009, 07:25 PM
I think it was 11.8 at like 118mph.... thats going off memory!
I saw a video on youtube, 12.3 @116
BadBoostedBmwM3
03-23-2009, 08:54 PM
I saw a video on youtube, 12.3 @116
Yea, that was a bad run... check on M3forum.net. I know I saw one of him trapping 118mph with like 125 or 150 shot plus his full straight flow exhaust system with headers!
OnUrleft
03-24-2009, 12:08 AM
Boki did a 12.0@119.8 spinning I believe. It has room to go faster but he doesn't take it to the track much.
ritoab
03-24-2009, 02:23 AM
what nitrous system is he running?
I just wonder why so few people use it.
Being such a good power adder for dragracing...
Yo Rito, how ya been, Im still debating on the turbo project,
how is yours doing?
PEI330Ci
03-24-2009, 12:25 PM
Boki did a 12.0@119.8 spinning I believe. It has room to go faster but he doesn't take it to the track much.
That's a pretty solid # for street legal tires.
A "perfect" 12.00 run with minimal wheelspin would be in the 113-114 mph area.
Looks like the "nitrous" record is going to fall in 2009.
Grimmjar
03-24-2009, 01:23 PM
12.1 @ 119mph with M70 in E30 (~100hp shot)
11,5 @ ???mph with S50 in E30iX (~100hp shot)
ritoab
03-24-2009, 01:36 PM
I just wonder why so few people use it.
Being such a good power adder for dragracing...
Yo Rito, how ya been, Im still debating on the turbo project,
how is yours doing?
Hey, I am doing fine
Do debate on the turbo thing it's a must. LOL
Mine is fine just don't have time to play with it anymore. Once i get time i will iron out a few bugs and back at it sooner or later.
3 weeks ago I did a 12.5 @ 114 mph
But I feel I can get a better 60'
The rpm was dropping down badly on the starting line, so next month
Ill try again.
This is on a 60 shot!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xVsnozR2gA
BadBoostedBmwM3
03-24-2009, 04:45 PM
Come on now... post up your times more often brother!!
Anyways, those are great times for a 60 shot!! Whats your exact setup??
BUT, you have a euro motor right?? Which one the 321BHP or 286BHP?? You have a pretty good advantage over us here since you have a lot more HP to start with...
Keep the times coming!
EDIT: I see you have a 1994 euro m3, so that puts you at 286BHP, right?? If so, I'd say you have somewhere around 300whp with your nitrous. But, your times would indicate like you have about 350rwhp UNLESS your car is lightened any..
Thats correct, I have the 286 BHP.
As far as the mods, I removed the back seats and the front seat I replaced with 2 lighter race seats. Ofcourse spare wheel,jack removed also.Oh the exhaust is also considerably lighter, I have no cats , just headers 3 inch piping and a 3inch muffler.
Other than that its all still there.
BadBoostedBmwM3
03-24-2009, 05:15 PM
Thats correct, I have the 286 BHP.
As far as the mods, I removed the back seats and the front seat I replaced with 2 lighter race seats. Ofcourse spare wheel,jack removed also.Oh the exhaust is also considerably lighter, I have no cats , just headers 3 inch piping and a 3inch muffler.
Other than that its all still there.
Yea, you are making definitely more than 300rwhp I'd say with you custom 3" exhaust! And, I've been told vaders or rather m3 seats are pretty heavy. I bet you have lost 200lbs easy!
So, with your car's "diet" and your 60 shot I'd say that it would translate to somewhere pretty close to 350whp!
ritoab
03-24-2009, 05:17 PM
Hey that's pretty damn good considering you bodge off the line a little.
What's the 60' and what nitrous system you are using again.
Rito
Yeah those front seats are around 30 kilo's a piece.
The back seat was not the much, something like 10 kilo's altogether.
My new racing seats weigh around 30 kilo's together with rails and 4 point belts.
Yo Rito I still have that simple NOS Sniper kit, single nozzle wet system.
But if all goes as planned, I'll be getting some stuff from Trevor pretty soon, hopefully before mid April, since the next race is the 26th of April.
I would like to get the car around 11.9-11.8 before going turbo.
swollix
03-24-2009, 06:23 PM
I am planning on spraying my M3 once I get some money together. I want to do a 100-125 shot TRM tuned. My M3 makes about 240whp now, and weighs 2730. I have trapped 104 mph N/A, I hope I could hit low 12's with the nitrous.
JordanMD88
03-24-2009, 07:55 PM
I am planning on spraying my M3 once I get some money together. I want to do a 100-125 shot TRM tuned. My M3 makes about 240whp now, and weighs 2730. I have trapped 104 mph N/A, I hope I could hit low 12's with the nitrous.
:buttrock
bjl4776
03-24-2009, 08:46 PM
We'll see what my high compression direct port build will do this summer. Lets just say that im "starting" with 125 shot :devillook.
bjl4776
03-24-2009, 09:19 PM
A little competition, I like it. Its not fun if its easy.
BadBoostedBmwM3
03-24-2009, 10:48 PM
I am planning on spraying my M3 once I get some money together. I want to do a 100-125 shot TRM tuned. My M3 makes about 240whp now, and weighs 2730. I have trapped 104 mph N/A, I hope I could hit low 12's with the nitrous.
That would be easy with a 125 shot or 150 shot. I bet you would be knocking on 11's door... :lol
A little competition, I like it. Its not fun if its easy.
you all will see what i mean soon enough.
This all sounds good. :eatpop:
PEI330Ci
03-25-2009, 08:07 AM
We'll see what my high compression direct port build will do this summer. Lets just say that im "starting" with 125 shot :devillook.
You starting with a WON kit?
All sounds good indeed!
Hope to see some fast nitrous powered Bimmers
this year.
Keep it up guys!
bjl4776
03-25-2009, 05:03 PM
The nitrous setup is a NX based direct port kit that im gonna try my hardest to plumb underneath the manifold. I have a spare broken manifold to expirement on. The motor is gonna be a 11.5:1 motor with race cams and all the other goodies to make a reliable road track motor. I gotta give ICS called in a few weeks for the machine stuff. The rest of the car is built for the road course but I can tweak alot if things for the strip. The car should be below #3000. I like anything i can do in a car so I'll be frequenting strip, autox, and track equally
SMGeezer
03-25-2009, 07:04 PM
If I were to do, say, a 75 shot on my built motor T trim SC E 46, who would tune?
PEI330Ci
03-25-2009, 07:46 PM
Looks like we should be seeing a whole whack of "roll cage" build threads popping up then. Let the fun begin!
BMWFanatic
03-29-2009, 12:56 AM
All sounds good indeed!
Hope to see some fast nitrous powered Bimmers
this year.
Keep it up guys!
hope to be up there with you guys aswell soon:buttrock
what do you nitrous guys think about this kit? im planning on running a 100 shot
http://holley.com/07005NOS.asp
racer m
03-29-2009, 02:03 AM
someone I know with his 2000 M coupe runs 12.4 to 12.6 with a 100 shot
BMWFanaticQuote:
Originally Posted by onig http://images.bimmerforums.com/vb3images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=15872635#post15872635)
All sounds good indeed!
Hope to see some fast nitrous powered Bimmers
this year.
Keep it up guys!
hope to be up there with you guys aswell soon:buttrock
what do you nitrous guys think about this kit? im planning on running a 100 shot
http://holley.com/07005NOS.asp
Hahaha I had the exact same kit , but did 60 shot though :)
BMWFanatic
04-01-2009, 12:29 AM
Hahaha I had the exact same kit , but did 60 shot though :)
nice. can this kit jet for a 100 shot or 125 shot?
what other accessories do you have with your wet kit?
I guess it could flow for a 125shot! A 100 shot sure!.
Do you have a GOOD fuelpump, timing retard?
BMWFanatic
04-05-2009, 01:32 PM
I guess it could flow for a 125shot! A 100 shot sure!.
Do you have a GOOD fuelpump, timing retard?
not yet, what do you suggest?
Yesterday we had good weather so I went for some runs.
Unfortunately it was a 1/8mile.
I was running full slicks, 24.5-8.5-15.
The runway was regular public street, just cleaned a little so traction
was an issue.
My best run off bottle was 8.69 @ 98 mph
My best run with bottle was 8.38 @ 103 mph and that was mis shifting third gear, so I lost some time there, and of course less traction,
so I guess a 8.0 was possible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU4CIgPfBNk
blackbenzz
05-03-2009, 11:26 AM
^ damn, 103mph in the 1/8th??? That announcer sounded like he was getting stabbed
Yeah he was like more nervous then myself hehehehe
I had to beat the ZO6 to go first place.
He was on dragradials and had the second best time that day , 8.6 sec.
BadBoostedBmwM3
05-03-2009, 12:25 PM
Im not calling BS BUT 103mph in the 1/8 is good for low 7 seconds in the 1/8 mile..... personally i don't believe that is what your car can do.
blackbenzz
05-04-2009, 09:56 AM
Im not calling BS BUT 103mph in the 1/8 is good for low 7 seconds in the 1/8 mile..... personally i don't believe that is what your car can do.
I did a 6.9 with a 101mph 1/8th
I checked with the Corvette guy and you guys were right, the mph were off!!!!!
PEI330Ci
05-06-2009, 04:35 PM
I now have a "small" tune on the car...might have a private test day this weekend to start shaking down the car. (And the driver)
Nice to hear man.
BEst of the luck and keep us posted.
PEI330Ci
05-08-2009, 08:49 PM
Nice to hear man.
BEst of the luck and keep us posted.
Rain and cold temps predicted through the weekend...not likely to run the car.
Got a chance to make some runs last friday.
I'm still sorting things out with the system, but we are getting there! http://forum.nitrous-advice.org/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
Best ET 12.02 best speed 117mph , thats a .5 second improvement right there.
check out this run.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SI ... annel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SI ... annel_page)
ritoab
06-28-2009, 01:53 PM
Got a chance to make some runs last friday.
I'm still sorting things out with the system, but we are getting there! http://forum.nitrous-advice.org/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
Best ET 12.02 best speed 117mph , thats a .5 second improvement right there. Mph is a little off because of the fuel pressure issue Im getting.Just 3 mph improvement.
check out this run.
Had a fuel pressure issue at 1/8 mile, pressure got up, mixture rich, so I lost power.
Was neck on neck with this nitrous Camaro till 1/8 then he walked me to a 11.19 win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SI ... annel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SIqMs&feature=channel_page)
We are getting there. http://forum.nitrous-advice.org/images/smilies/thumb.gif
Oh snap, I love how you came off the line. What was the 60ft numbers?
One thing i notice is that you staged first and was sitting there far a few seconds before the camero staged. If i were you I would not stag first. Let the other car stage then you hit the line and stag up like he did in this video. I think if your nitrous is activated during your stage then pressure in the bottle is droping and therefore you are losing power off the line. Again, do not stage until the other car is ready then you pop on and rev for take off.
I counted almost 12 seconds after staging in the video but it's hard to say actually. Just go back and watch the video and the clock on the video to see my point.
Yoo Rito
Yeah man, I was nervous, knowing that Chevy is a high 10sec. car, I wanted to be READY for the countdown.
I'll work on that next time!!
But, the pressure issue is on the fuel part
The Nitrous pressure issues I had in the past, are all sorted out now.
I have a dedicated FPR for the nitrous system, but somehow the pressure went up when I hit third gear. My wideband guage read 9.5. so too rich, less power.
I'll have it checked this week.
On this run I had a lousy 1.9x 60ft.
ritoab
06-28-2009, 03:47 PM
Yoo Rito
Yeah man, I was nervous, knowing that Chevy is a high 10sec. car, I wanted to be READY for the countdown.
I'll work on that next time!!
But, the pressure issue is on the fuel part
The Nitrous pressure issues I had in the past, are all sorted out now.
I have a dedicated FPR for the nitrous system, but somehow the pressure went up when I hit third gear. My wideband guage read 9.5. so too rich, less power.
I'll have it checked this week.
On this run I had a lousy 1.9x 60ft.
This might be the point i am making so forgive me if i am wrong.
From my experience once nitrous is activated you only have about 7-8 seconds max then nitrous pressure drops causing a very rich condition. So in theory when you are sitting there with nitrous activated waiting for that camero to stage you are losing most of your initial power off the line.
The guy in the camero knows this which is why once he hits the line within a few seconds you guys are off and running.
The other point would be which controller you are using. I know on the Max Extreme you can set activation at whatever percentage throttle you program activation for. I have mine set somewhere between 80-90% but it could be set for 100% or 50%. Anyway, when i line up I can rev to 4200rwhp which is my launching rpms without even using nitrous so until i reached the percentage throttle i set the nitrous is still not activated.
Also i know you can stage using short burst of nitrous to heat the tires which is a setting in the max extreme controller for burnout. It's not uncommon to forget to take it off burnout when nervous. LOL
got psi
06-29-2009, 12:17 AM
This might be the point i am making so forgive me if i am wrong.
From my experience once nitrous is activated you only have about 7-8 seconds max then nitrous pressure drops causing a very rich condition. So in theory when you are sitting there with nitrous activated waiting for that camero to stage you are losing most of your initial power off the line.
The guy in the camero knows this which is why once he hits the line within a few seconds you guys are off and running.
LOL There is no way he is on the nitrous when he is staged. He is just bringing up the rpm with throttle. What is your bottle pressure at the starting line. You need to run a 10lb bottle at 900psi. With that small of a hit you should be good for at least 3 runs before you run low on pressure. We used to run 400hp of nos on one bottle on our racecar no problem. ///J.T.///
ritoab
06-29-2009, 12:49 AM
There is no way he is on the nitrous when he is staged. He is just bringing up the rpm with throttle. What is your bottle pressure at the starting line. You need to run a 10lb bottle at 900psi. With that small of a hit you should be good for at least 3 runs before you run low on pressure. We used to run 400hp of nos on one bottle on our racecar no problem. ///J.T.///
Whether he is or not on nitrous he shouldn't be staged for 8-10 seconds bringing up the rpms before the other car even gets to the line.
Also I don't think you are aware the type of setup he is running and I am sure you never ran this style of system because you would know me and be aware that I understand more about nitrous than you think.
MrBlonde
06-29-2009, 01:02 AM
Best ET 12.02 best speed 117mph , thats a .5 second improvement right there. Mph is a little off because of the fuel pressure issue Im getting.Just 3 mph improvement.
Not to rain on your parade but that's not an NHRA or equivalent certified track.
PEI330Ci
06-29-2009, 02:29 AM
Got a chance to make some runs last friday.
I'm still sorting things out with the system, but we are getting there! http://forum.nitrous-advice.org/images/smilies/icon_mrgreen.gif
Best ET 12.02 best speed 117mph , thats a .5 second improvement right there. Mph is a little off because of the fuel pressure issue Im getting.Just 3 mph improvement.
check out this run.
Had a fuel pressure issue at 1/8 mile, pressure got up, mixture rich, so I lost power.
Was neck on neck with this nitrous Camaro till 1/8 then he walked me to a 11.19 win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SI ... annel_page (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_C38SIqMs&feature=channel_page)
We are getting there. http://forum.nitrous-advice.org/images/smilies/thumb.gif
Congrats!!! That's still hauling even with the AFR issue.
Before you jump to any conclusions about fuel, you really need to look at what happened with your nitrous pressure. Maybe it was stable for the whole run, maybe it dropped off down track. Knowing what the other half of the AFR ratio is doing is just as important as watching your fuel pressure.
Getting a good data logger would be a very good idea.
Not to rain on your parade but that's not an NHRA or equivalent certified track.
Break out the Umbrellas! :stickoutt
MrBlonde
06-29-2009, 02:48 AM
Break out the Umbrellas! :stickoutt
It always amuses me when people get indignant at having their pass at the local street turned "track" questioned. The more experience you have with an NHRA or equivalent certified track the more you realise how much it takes to set up, operate and maintain the official timing equipment and safety items that make a drag strip.
Then someone in a developing nation shows a video of a street with a portable display board and some ET and trap speed .. and expects everyone to just accept it like it was at a championship event at Atco.
I saw a nice looking drag strip in the UAE where a lightly modified Porsche GT2 pulled a 0.9 short time according to the timeslip. From the launch video you can see the driver baby the clutch off the line .. probably a 2.3 60'!
Not speaking about anyone in particular here, just sayin'!
Thanks Adam,
thats a good point right there, although right after that run
the bottle pressure was still above 900psi.
And I clearly saw the fuel pressure go up.
So that is defenitely also a fact.
Kenny
I understand your point Kenny.
Too bad we are in Europe. I test my car at different events.Different tracks( airstrips)
This one is FIA certified, which uses NHRA guidelines (if I understood correctly) and so is Santapod raceway!!
Check out the link.
http://www.explosiondragracing.com/?page_id=2
I'm not trying to prove of brag about anything either,
just having some fun with my car and sharing this with you guys.
ritoab
06-29-2009, 05:54 AM
Thanks Adam,
thats a good point right there, although right after that run
the bottle pressure was still above 900psi.
And I clearly saw the fuel pressure go up.
So that is defenitely also a fact.
Kenny
I understand your point Kenny.
Too bad we are in Europe. I test my car at different events.Different tracks( airstrips)
This one is FIA certified, which uses NHRA guidelines (if I understood correctly) and so is Santapod raceway!!
Check out the link.
http://www.explosiondragracing.com/?page_id=2
I'm not trying to prove of brag about anything either,
just having some fun with my car and sharing this with you guys.
Excellent reply and i like how you didn't fight fire with fire. Very well replied.
This is what it's really about going out and having fun also sharing this with other like minded people. Kenny, Adam are the real deal when it comes to drag racing so they take things a bit serious. I just want to see you do well and the car make lots of power.
MrBlonde
06-29-2009, 09:24 AM
Thanks Adam,
thats a good point right there, although right after that run
the bottle pressure was still above 900psi.
And I clearly saw the fuel pressure go up.
So that is defenitely also a fact.
Kenny
I understand your point Kenny.
Too bad we are in Europe. I test my car at different events.Different tracks( airstrips)
This one is FIA certified, which uses NHRA guidelines (if I understood correctly) and so is Santapod raceway!!
Check out the link.
http://www.explosiondragracing.com/?page_id=2
I'm not trying to prove of brag about anything either,
just having some fun with my car and sharing this with you guys.
Yeah I sympathise dude. The thing is you'd go quicker at a real drag strip too!
JT
Thats correct! Bottle pressure was at 900+ psi at start, and after that run.
I'm doing a 90HP shot.
Kenny
I would love to run some quiker ETs
Yes Rito, its all about the fun, and learning more and more about our cars.
Hopefully we will see some 11 seconds ETs pretty soon with this 90 shot jets.
:buttrock
BMWFanatic
07-29-2009, 10:55 PM
JT
Thats correct! Bottle pressure was at 900+ psi at start, and after that run.
I'm doing a 90HP shot.
Kenny
I would love to run some quiker ETs
Yes Rito, its all about the fun, and learning more and more about our cars.
Hopefully we will see some 11 seconds ETs pretty soon with this 90 shot jets.
:buttrock
nice!
are you still on the single fogger NOS sniper kit?
what other accessories do you have running with your nitrous setup?
-Chase
nice!
are you still on the single fogger NOS sniper kit?
what other accessories do you have running with your nitrous setup?
-Chase
No sir,
I switched to a WON DP kit. Now I'm running 90 hp jets with a progressive controller .
Drop in Walbro fuel pump.
A dedicated Fuel pressure regulator for the nitrous system.
Thats about it.
Best so far 12.0 but had some issues half the track , hope to see some better times coming weekend.
PEI330Ci
07-30-2009, 05:55 AM
No sir,
I switched to a WON DP kit. Now I'm running 90 hp jets with a progressive controller .
Drop in Walbro fuel pump.
A dedicated Fuel pressure regulator for the nitrous system.
Thats about it.
Best so far 12.0 but had some issues half the track , hope to see some better times coming weekend.
Catch me if you can!:stickoutt
Catch me if you can!:stickoutt
Hahahahaha
Will do my best Adam hahahaha
I'll let you know :thumbup:
BMWFanatic
07-30-2009, 08:38 PM
No sir,
I switched to a WON DP kit. Now I'm running 90 hp jets with a progressive controller .
Drop in Walbro fuel pump.
A dedicated Fuel pressure regulator for the nitrous system.
Thats about it.
Best so far 12.0 but had some issues half the track , hope to see some better times coming weekend.
nice.
So would you recommend me using the sniper kit if i dont plan on using over a 100 shot with a walbro fuel pump?
and should I change my injectors to atleast the 21.5lbers? im on the stock 17lbers
thanks
nice.
So would you recommend me using the sniper kit if i dont plan on using over a 100 shot with a walbro fuel pump?
and should I change my injectors to atleast the 21.5lbers? im on the stock 17lbers
thanks
I used a 75 shot with the sniper kit, no problems atall, just the kit.
I never tested it beyond 75 shot, but if you have some way of datalogging or atleast a wideband, you could start with say 60 and work
your way up to 100shot.
What Engine do you have.You SHOULD be able to tune the nitrous without
changing injectors.(yet)
If you don't have the kit yet, and plan on going higher with the shots, on a stock engine, I would recommend a Wizards of Nos DP kit.
You will then use a progressive controller which will allow you to go higher and be easier on the engine.:thumbup:
BadBoostedBmwM3
07-31-2009, 08:33 AM
No sir,
I switched to a WON DP kit. Now I'm running 90 hp jets with a progressive controller .
Drop in Walbro fuel pump.
A dedicated Fuel pressure regulator for the nitrous system.
Thats about it.
Best so far 12.0 but had some issues half the track , hope to see some better times coming weekend.
How exactly does the dedicated FPR work?? I mean why do you need it??
How exactly does the dedicated FPR work?? I mean why do you need it??
It makes the tuning easier, as for example,while tuning, instead of changing to smaller fuel jets, one could reduce fuel pressure for the nitrous system, while fuel pressure for the engine(fuelrail) stays the same.
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