Jon Sibal's new project...

[Ralliart]

He built a sick E36.. and now:
http://jonsibal.com/blog/?page_id=1394

I can't wait to see what he does with it! :evil2

[Garrett M]

eww

[M3Alpine99]

I like Challengers.. A Lot!

[f33linit187]

That paint job/wheel scheme is horrendous but im sure it wont look like that for long.

I was really hoping he would do a new audi or something...o well.

[97 Ex/SiR]

ummmm. stock looks better.

yeah, i also wish it was something euro.

[imola e36]

well that sucks.... that car in flat black maybe? but the flames just don't cut it for me. Although they do look like they were done well.

[riffman12]

god I hate those

but I'm sure he'll do something with it

[slitz]

i hate flames and challengers... if you look at them in person the side has no body lines

its like a 10 yr old girl

[artifact]

Not off to a good start, IMO.

[Mun1ch]

not a fan of that car at all

[e34 life]

wat

[phillipk]

Do like. I'd take a SRT8 Challenger in a heart beat if I could afford it. Love the lack of bubby lines on the car.

Wonder what's in store for his new project, looking decent but the flames are gaaah.

[volcomnator999]

hot...srsly

[Ergalio]

hmmm but? wtf..

[///M LIFE©]

His e-36 is hot minus the stickers

[NOCTURNAL]

The only think i don't like are the flames. I love the car though.

[JeffCupino]

- flamage = hotness

[TXDakarM3]

The only think i don't like are the flames. I love the car though.

+1

The flames are done super well but there is something off about the placement. The car looks wayy better lowered.

[jonsibal]

I actually won the car from a design contest promoted by MSN/Chrysler.

I posted the full story HERE (http://jonsibal.com/blog/2009/01/got-me-a-hemi/).

I already dropped it with H&R Coil Overs and swapped the exhaust with Zoomers cat-back.

I do have other stuff planned for it. Just need some money LOL

[E30Guv]

I like the wheels but the paintjob needs to go :nono

[villagethief]

- flamage = hotness

+1

[imola e36]

I actually won the car from a design contest promoted by MSN/Chrysler.



that must've been nice

[vibes]

Fail

[EFU]

Challengers are cool.... a FREE Challenger is Hella Cool! Can't see how ya'll dont' like these cars? I'm sure the flames will be put out at some time.

Nice win!

[Sam Son]

is that some sort of sick joke? that thing is ghastly

[Ollie1662]

LOL. People can't resist flames and TA! Haha Are you planning on keeping the flames for a while so not to offend the people who gave you the car? I wouldn't.. haha

It's funny how everyone hates the flames but that is the reason he won the car. Ironic

[jhstealth]

Why cant i win expensive cars...... I definatly dont like the paint but i do like the fact that its lowered. I was hoping when i saw the title that it was going to be a new project bmw :( Got me excited for nothing. But in the end if it was given to me id drive it :)

[Bears]

I'm sure Jon has something up his sleeves. I've always liked his taste in mods. His bmw is :drool:

[BeastinM3]

Yuck

[E36M34life]

That thing would be orgasmic if it was satin black with no stickers or decals and satin black wheels with no stickers or decals and lowered slightly more then what it is right now. :drool: They look so damn aggressive

[DucHuynh007]

Do you have to pay taxes or stuff like that if you won a car? I would imagine you have to insure it yourself but I donno, someone just giving you car is pretty crazy.

[1fst840kid]

I understand why alot of you guys don't like the flames. Its a muscle car thing.
With the True Fire Flame job being one of the new popular painting techniques It doesn't surprise me you chose that.
I agree with the ones who said the flames seem out of place.
I don't know exactly why the placement seems off, but it does.
Im sure it looks awesome in person Jon.
The H&R's made a huge difference.
Congratulations on the win. You deserve it!
-Andrew

[tEckniks]

thats a interesting jump.. maybe the car was free?

[E36Guy]

The first couple pics I didnt like.. but with the drop on it in the last shot... I have to say, I really dig it. Im looking forward to see where you go with this Jon. :thumbup:

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/HRdrop2.jpg

:drool:

I like it. That front grille should be blacked out.. but go at it man. Good luck. It's going to be badass Im sure. :evil2

[Geoff.T]

That's a really nice car for the low price of free. Congrats. Does it have to do any shows or can you actually beat it up? I'd love to see pics of it on a race track.

[DeM3n]

eww

Yup.

[E36Bimmer93]

Man, Jon practiacally got me hooked on E36's back in the day, I know the Challenger doesn't look great in it's current state, but I'm sure he'll make it work

[zaklikestuna]

god damn that is a ugly paint job.

[aschroeder92]

Me no rike the frames

[E36M34life]

thats a interesting jump.. maybe the car was free?

:facepalm


Reading > you.

[kosta]

congrats jon
you have talent

[OOMPH333]

Flame paint takes away from the car, I hate it. The drop and wheels are on point.

[Chris V]

i hate flames and challengers... if you look at them in person the side has no body lines

its like a 10 yr old girl

? The side has a big crease that runs down the middle and kicks up over the rear wheels, splitting the body side neatly in half while giving muscular haunches. Looks like a smooth custom version of the original.

I don't mind the flames, but I'm an old school hot rodder and musclecar owner to begin with.



It's starting to get diasspointing to realize just how many young enthusiasts define themselves by what they hate and what they don't want to learn about and appreciate.

[tEckniks]

:facepalm


Reading > you.

Sorry O great one of full paragraph reading.

[Vaders]

Give Jon some time. Remember, his current E36 went through a few stages before it reached perfection.

[Bene36m3]

I would sell it and buy an e46 M

[ducky328i]

It's starting to get diasspointing to realize just how many young enthusiasts define themselves by what they hate and what they don't want to learn about and appreciate. ...i don't see many enthusiasts in this thread, personally. i see a bunch of holier than thou BMW fanboys hating on an american car...

the reason the flames look out of place or whatever is b/c they don't surround the entire front of the car. if there wasn't a huge gap between the small part in the center of the hood, and the flames on the side it'd look 10000000x better. also, the flames on the roof just make it look like someone was trying to hard. and if they continue on to the trunk they should be gone as well. lose the time attack, as well...and to the people saying the flames are ugly, lol at you. those look amazingly well done.

sweet car! i look forward to what you're gonna do with it, i'd also like to commend you for expanding your horizons to more than one style of car...maybe next you'll do an R34:devillook

[Swinford]

Im not diging the roof flames :( other than that its not to bad.

[97 Ex/SiR]

so are the flames staying? cool story, for sure. i really really like the look of challengers, but the car itself doesnt do alot for me. i think the only think i dislike at this point are the flames. like someone said, they look very well done, but IMO they dont fit.

[Eurotakeover]

challengers look gay

[Mun1ch]

its incredible how he won the contest to win the car he designed in the contest, that is so crazy that he won, im sure he will change the pain though, i bet he just did it like that to win the contest

[valley325m]

damn..those flames are pretty well done but it doesnt look nice on that car.. but i wish i had a challenger!

[jszy25]

Definitely a head-turner whether you like it or not.

I'd love a stock orange SRT8 Challenger with that drop...now THAT would be hot.

[Steinkek]

Love the new Challenger!

I think they did a great job with the paint............I would never chose that paint but it looks good.

Sick car for sure, cool story, good luck

[jonsibal]

Thanks for ALL the feedbacks. Good and bad I appreciate them all.

The true fire paint scheme was done specifically for the contest. It's def a lot bolder and louder than any paint job I have on any of my cars. Selling the car is an option that I've considered but at this time though, I am having fun with it. I got to meet a whole new crowd of people being part of the SoCalChallengers club. You all know I'm a euro guy at heart but it's a great learning experience being part of a whole new scene for me. I hardly paid attention to muscle cars before but now I have so much more appreciation and respects for them.

Not sure how long I'll keep the car but if I end up keeping it, the car will surely evolve from it's current state.

[TH3 Shifty]

the best Challenger i have seen is a flat black one....


the flames AND pin stripes just dont go together

[rundatrack]

I like the flames eff it

[mipktb]

He should do a 951.

[MBe36]

The car was FREE

[AvusBlua M3]

no go on the paint

[skd2k1]

I for one think you should keep the paint, after all, you wouldn't have the car if wasn't for the paint. I'd wear it proudly! Nice job dude.

[sscorpsman]

Didn't get to see the pics...there are filters on our computers. Funny this is what is said about sibals sight===Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Malicious Sites" wtf???

[525iT_Feen]

Some nice wheels and I can see it work. Not a fan of the flames but with that drop I can definitely see it working. Get some wide ass CCW's for that thing Jon ;)

Congrats on the win!

[kpipalldaway2]

the car is sick, but sorry jon, im not feeling the flames at all

[NollieStylz]

I actually won the car from a design contest promoted by MSN/Chrysler.

I posted the full story HERE (http://jonsibal.com/blog/?p=1307).

I already dropped it with H&R Coil Overs and swapped the exhaust with Zoomers cat-back.

I do have other stuff planned for it. Just need some money LOL

Do your thing Jon, just be sure to put as much love into it as you did with the E36! :thumbup:

[DaJackel]

To all the people that have a hard time reading:

He
won
the
car.

[Sniz]

hmmmmm

I noticed the flames dont touch the area that woud be NICELY filled by a huge FMIC...........big single turbo built Hemi anyone????

now that would be sick sick sick.

with a horrendous photochop showing FMIC in place.

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q248/mattsniz/HRdrop2.jpg

[tEckniks]

yes big turbo would be sick

[maskellBYAH]

Not off to a good start, IMO.

lol right

[M13]

I would rock a pink challenger, if it were free. Good job Jon, and way to go with keeping an open mind and meeting new people.

[Nomade30]

I am with Sniz on this one.. It's missing a big FMIC.... but i would do twin turbo.. Maybe when I grow up people will give me free stuff.

[raoke]

its funny how a $150 intercooler changes the whole styling of a vehicle. Maybe I should have bought a 318 and an ic from ebay...

[Dliniypasha]

ummm, yeah, the flames need to go...

[Yarberrymt]

No, flames are a VERY hard thing to do right. That is a fantastic paint job, cool car too.

Dodge had to do something right after DESTROYING the namesake/legacy of the Charger.

Great stance, but domestics HAVE to have huge meats out back to be legit. Go with a 315 in the rear at least. CCW classics would look great.

I'd say go with a WIDE wide 19" wheel to compliment the car's hefty size.

[JackEatsEmoKids]

Flat black.

[AndrewH]

Challengers are cool.... a FREE Challenger is Hella Cool! Can't see how ya'll dont' like these cars? I'm sure the flames will be put out at some time.

Nice win!

that's what's known as the bf.c syndrome, people with old ass beat e36's and bmw's feel the need to rag on sick new cars, it's quite a deadly ailment. Challenger is an awesome car, and a free one, even fuckin better. Flames aren't exactly my style but who can argue with free?

[525iT_Feen]

that's what's known as the bf.c syndrome, people with old ass beat e36's and bmw's feel the need to rag on sick new cars, it's quite a deadly ailment.

Sig worthy.

[jhstealth]

Thanks for ALL the feedbacks. Good and bad I appreciate them all.

The true fire paint scheme was done specifically for the contest. It's def a lot bolder and louder than any paint job I have on any of my cars (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1190429&page=3#). Selling the car is an option that I've considered but at this time though, I am having fun with it. I got to meet a whole new crowd of people being part of the SoCalChallengers club. You all know I'm a euro guy at heart but it's a great learning experience being part of a whole new scene for me. I hardly paid attention to muscle cars (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1190429&page=3#) before but now I have so much more appreciation and respects for them.

Not sure how long I'll keep the car but if I end up keeping it, the car will surely evolve from it's current state.



I know exactly what you mean about the different groups of people. I went from 3000gt's to bmw and even with something like that it was crazy the different people you would meet. IMO keep the car, it was sort of a gift/trophy so i see no sense in selling it. But im still hoping to see another bmw project in the future ;)

[Glenn 328is]

I thought I saw that car at the Edmonton Motorshow back in February - but maybe it was another black Challenger with flames. Up close it looked wicked.

I hate to say this, but I think they look pretty cool. I wouldn't own one, but they are super cool.

[Drone]

Didn't get to see the pics...there are filters on our computers. Funny this is what is said about sibals sight===Your request was denied because of its content categorization: "Malicious Sites" wtf???


Our proxy did the same thing, Jon Sibal is apparently bad for business :shifty

[oldbeemer]

Minus the flames and rims not a bad car...I wouldn't drive it though...

[gt25e36]

Those flames need to be real.

[TehPandaShow]

If it's in Jon's hands....no need to worry, the man has skills.

[Sam L]

jon, can you relink the full story on how you won the car? all i can find is a blog with very little information about how you actually won the car...

congrats btw!

you're very talented, that flame job is amazing.

and for all you newbies on bf.c (by newbie i mean on the forums for less than 5 years), jon is THE godfather of e36 modding.

[jonsibal]

here you go Sam..
http://jonsibal.com/blog/2009/01/got-me-a-hemi/

[carreraboy911]

it looks like the car is on fire, pretty cool, needs a drop though

http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/projectRT01.jpg

[Rallyincali]

The flame graphics alone are impressive and the Challenger is a great looking car, but together with those rims looks like something my local truck owners would do. I have faith in the project though.

[LWRNCE]

Car looks great.

For those of you hating on the car... yet you drive a stock car give me a break.

[JustinE36M3]

needs 26s:shifty
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/justine36m3/4434_205222820092_566530092_7059434.jpg
http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r11/justine36m3/DSC_6902.jpg

[Boostedcorrados]

The one on 26's kinda looks cool.

[BimmerBreaker]

it hurts me to say this but I seriously just lost a little respect for his E36 after having seen that car. yuck


Car looks great.

For those of you hating on the car... yet you drive a stock car give me a break.

sorry bro Id rather drive a clean stock car then a challenger with flame graphics or a honda with a cardboard spoiler. its about "taste" and "class" of which that challenger exhibits neither.

[jonsibal]

it looks like the car is on fire, pretty cool, needs a drop though


It has been dropped - H&R Coilovers -first coilovers made for this car from them..
http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/HRdrop1.jpg
http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/HRdrop2.jpg
http://jonsibal.com/bpimages/HRdrop3.jpg


needs 26s:shifty

26" is a monster. Maybe 22" but the widebody rear fenders on those are really cool. I want it.


it hurts me to say this but I seriously just lost a little respect for his E36 after having seen that car. yuck



sorry bro Id rather drive a clean stock car then a challenger with flame graphics or a honda with a cardboard spoiler. its about "taste" and "class" of which that challenger exhibits neither.

You know that this car was FREE right? I won it in a contest. The whole flame thing is not my style either but for a free car, why not?? It's just paint.

Please see post#55 -
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15763803&postcount=55

[Chris V]

it hurts me to say this but I seriously just lost a little respect for his E36 after having seen that car. yuck

Wow.



sorry bro Id rather drive a clean stock car then a challenger with flame graphics or a honda with a cardboard spoiler. its about "taste" and "class" of which that challenger exhibits neither.

Closed minded elitist, much?

Thanks for keeping up the image of the BMW owner... :(

[JustinE36M3]

it hurts me to say this but I seriously just lost a little respect for his E36 after having seen that car. yuck



sorry bro Id rather drive a clean stock car then a challenger with flame graphics or a honda with a cardboard spoiler. its about "taste" and "class" of which that challenger exhibits neither.
your life<jon sibals e36

[///M3Augy]

You won that? ...You're the man, even more so than before. Awesome.

[renemesis]

Not a fan of Challengers at all, but the way in which the car was acquired is super sick! Huge props for winning the contest.