Best 0-60 time?

[hippiecrap]

Hi everyone.

I bought a 2008 328i back in March 2008. Black on black, manual transmission, and sport package.

Recently, I've been itching to calculate my 0-60 time. The BMW website lists it at around 6 seconds.

When I do it, I have traction control off. I usually get to 60 in third gear after about 10 seconds. Can you give me any tips on how to do a good 0-60 run?

[sk69]

Simple - just swap it for a 335i! (only joking - good luck man)

[pappy1911]

I would say to rev it up to about 6000 rpm and pop the clutch.
Shift to second at 6000 rpm and don't let up on the gas while shifting. Same for 3rd, if nesessary.

I have the same 328i with manual and have never done this as I prefer not to abuse the car. I love it too much.

The car is what it is.

BTW, welcome to the Forum...

[mryakan]

I would say to rev it up to about 6000 rpm and pop the clutch.

Very bad advice. This could destroy your clutch or transmission. Feather it in at around 4-4.5K.

[pappy1911]

Hippiecrap asked for a tip and I gave him one...

He didn't ask about preserving his car..

I did say "I have the same 328i with manual and have never done this as I prefer not to abuse the car. I love it too much."

[Jhunter]

Do you need third gear in a 328 to get to 60? In a 335 you don't.

Don't worry about trying to replicate a published 0-60 time. Just concentrate of taking those Hyundais off the line. If it takes you 10 seconds to get to 60 you have major issues with your driving.

[MagneZium]

Very bad advice. This could destroy your clutch or transmission. Feather it in at around 4-4.5K.

Not true. Sidestepping the clutch wears the clutch pretty fast if done repeatedly and often, but should not destroy anything since that is the universally known best way to get maximum acceleration. Though not at such high revs usually. The amount of revs to be used before popping clutch depends on the car and conditions and you just have to try to find the optimal starting revs. I'd guess on a 328i it will be about 4500-5000rpm. You are looking for a small amount of slip from the tires at the start, but not too much. Then just change gears just before rev limiter. Any car that can get to 60mph without having to change into third will have a lagre advantage, so see if you can get there in second.

Of course that punishes the transmission and everything pretty much too, but a few tries now and again will not break the car as it has been made to withstand that kind of thing if not done often. Also the less grip, the better for the car.

Actually feathering the clutch will do much more damage, and might overheat the clutch in the very first attempt. I have seen that happen (clutch completely out of action until cooled down), and I would guess that it also shortens the clutches life a lot even if it work as normal after cooling down. If the clutch is completely sidestepped immediately it then catches in an instant and therefore friction is over right away, the force is therefore led into the driveline. If you feather the clutch like that, you will put ENORMOUS frictional forces on the clutch for the entire time it is slipping, something that it is not designed to withstand.

[Sniz]

Hippiecrap asked for a tip and I gave him one...

He didn't ask about preserving his car..

I did say "I have the same 328i with manual and have never done this as I prefer not to abuse the car. I love it too much."

u gave him a tip....a bad one at that.


do NOT dump your clutch at 6000rpms. You will not go anywhere.

[mryakan]

Not true. Sidestepping the clutch wears the clutch pretty fast if done repeatedly and often, but should not destroy anything since that is the universally known best way to get maximum acceleration. Though not at such high revs usually. The amount of revs to be used before popping clutch depends on the car and conditions and you just have to try to find the optimal starting revs. I'd guess on a 328i it will be about 4500-5000rpm. You are looking for a small amount of slip from the tires at the start, but not too much. Then just change gears just before rev limiter. Any car that can get to 60mph without having to change into third will have a lagre advantage, so see if you can get there in second.

Of course that punishes the transmission and everything pretty much too, but a few tries now and again will not break the car as it has been made to withstand that kind of thing if not done often. Also the less grip, the better for the car.

Actually feathering the clutch will do much more damage, and might overheat the clutch in the very first attempt. I have seen that happen (clutch completely out of action until cooled down), and I would guess that it also shortens the clutches life a lot even if it work as normal after cooling down. If the clutch is completely sidestepped immediately it then catches in an instant and therefore friction is over right away, the force is therefore led into the driveline. If you feather the clutch like that, you will put ENORMOUS frictional forces on the clutch for the entire time it is slipping, something that it is not designed to withstand.

What is cheaper to replace, a clutch or a transmission? Dump a clutch at 6K rpm at your own risk and don't come back here complaining about how your BMW didn't survive the attempt and expect sympathy.

[mryakan]

u gave him a tip....a bad one at that.


do NOT dump your clutch at 6000rpms. You will not go anywhere.
Off topic, but is your car really totaled? How, why? A shame, you had such a nice car :(.

[rdadhania]

10 seconds??? how slowly are you shifting and are you taking each gear up to redline?? :confused

[Wineman]

10 seconds??? how slowly are you shifting and are you taking each gear up to redline?? :confused
Wow, I can do much better in my E93 Convertible AUTO

[Sniz]

Off topic, but is your car really totaled? How, why? A shame, you had such a nice car :(.

yup its totaled.....got tboned by a Viper ACR of all things, he lost control of his car and came into my lane. Apparently several ACR's have lost control on cold roads due to the R comps they come with. I was just very very unlucky to be in the wrong place, wrong time.

[mryakan]

yup its totaled.....got tboned by a Viper ACR of all things, he lost control of his car and came into my lane. Apparently several ACR's have lost control on cold roads due to the R comps they come with. I was just very very unlucky to be in the wrong place, wrong time.
Sorry to hear that man, just a reminder of how important it is to have the right tires for the conditions. What do you plan to replace it with?

[MagneZium]

What is cheaper to replace, a clutch or a transmission? Dump a clutch at 6K rpm at your own risk and don't come back here complaining about how your BMW didn't survive the attempt and expect sympathy.

How exactly is that supposed to destroy a transmission? The reason approx 4000-4500 usually is the best rev range is because otherwise the WHEELS WILL SPIN... which means there is a limit to how much stress you are even able to get to the driveline that way.

You seriously don't know how to accelerate fast? Wow...

Have you ever 'feathered' a clutch at anything above 3500rpm trying to accelerate as fast as possible and still ahd a clutch that works?

[mryakan]

How exactly is that supposed to destroy a transmission? The reason approx 4000-4500 usually is the best rev range is because otherwise the WHEELS WILL SPIN... which means there is a limit to how much stress you are even able to get to the driveline that way.

You seriously don't know how to accelerate fast? Wow...

Have you ever 'feathered' a clutch at anything above 3500rpm trying to accelerate as fast as possible and still ahd a clutch that works?
I was talking about dumping the clutch at 6K. You are telling me the shock is not bad to the transmission?

And would you please tune down your responses a bit please, we are just debating here, we are not fighting. You always seem to antagonize anyone who argues with you. I have thick skin and don't mind it much, but others aren't necessarily the same, so tune it down with everyone please.

[MagneZium]

I was talking about dumping the clutch at 6K. You are telling me the shock is not bad to the transmission?

And would you please tune down your responses a bit please, we are just debating here, we are not fighting. You always seem to antagonize anyone who argues with you. I have thick skin and don't mind it much, but others aren't necessarily the same, so tune it down with everyone please.

Shock is at maximum at optimal acceleration, so anything above that will just spin the wheels. Cars' transmissions are made to withstand that level of strain if not done too often. AWD might be a different story.

High revs and definitely sidestepping the clutch is the way to accelerate best from a standstill, it's the way it's done. I won't do that to my car more than a few times a year at tops, but that is how acceleration figures are done.

[pappy1911]

BMW literature states 0-60 times for various models.

Wonder what methods are used to obtain these times????

[Beer Goggles]

They use power shifting, and getting a slight amount of wheelspin from dropping the clutch at a certain RPM.

[mryakan]

Actually BMW 0-60 numbers are usually higher than what is reported by various magazines, I suspect they may use more conservative and moderate launch techniques.

[MagneZium]

They use power shifting, and getting a slight amount of wheelspin from dropping the clutch at a certain RPM.

What is power shifting?

[pappy1911]

Actually BMW 0-60 numbers are usually higher than what is reported by various magazines, I suspect they may use more conservative and moderate launch techniques.

Who can say for sure what launch method BMW uses??? I suspect they are not very objective....

[carguy7]

After getting a motorcycle, quick acceleration is not as much a thrill in the 335i. Most sport bikes are quicker than cars and you get the convertible effect.

[ApexinMCoupe]

unless u can get into the 3-4-5 second range... who cares about 0-60?