Another "newbie" seaking Advice! 135 or 335!!!???

[joeking1978]

EDIT- UPDATED FOR THOSE WHO DON'T READ ALL 3 PAGES BEFORE POSTING ;)


The choice has been made... I went with the 135i for a couple reasons- the deal was right! ...the final test drive hooked me. The Covert actually makes you feel like its a more spacious car. The wife approved! :D and finding out that it has built in roll bars- so I can still potentially track/autoX a vert was good to know as well.

here's my new baby!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/joeking1978/IMG_1004.jpg

[Don Nguyen]

I would do some more research before you do any sort of mods to it. Make sure what you are doing is right, etc.

I've seen the 135, and it looks small for me. At the same time, for a little more, you can have a 335, which is larger. I am not just talking about physical exterior size, but interior space as well. I personally don't see much of a benefit going with a 1 series, other than if you really liked the way it looks, and want to save some money (5k?) over a 335.

[jibaholic101]

i own a 335 coupe 6mt, and i am planning on getting a 135 because i love that car. they are both great cars, but the 135 is more exhilarating and fun to drive and its much faster around the track...i have tested both on the track.

[fwmcb]

It is a tough decision. I tried both, found the 135 to be much more exhilarating, but liked the look of the 335 Coupe more. Since the 335 isn't a slouch, I decided to go that route.

[joeking1978]

I would do some more research before you do any sort of mods to it. Make sure what you are doing is right, etc.

I've seen the 135, and it looks small for me. At the same time, for a little more, you can have a 335, which is larger. I am not just talking about physical exterior size, but interior space as well. I personally don't see much of a benefit going with a 1 series, other than if you really liked the way it looks, and want to save some money (5k?) over a 335.

don't worry... I plan on doing a a TON of research before making that step. I think I may have posted about 20 threads on 10 forums and spoken to 4 reps and 8 service depts before I decided on the chip for my S4. I will likely take the same precautions here. It just blows my mind to think of a car with a better HP to LBS ration then an M3 for around 40k! :eyecrazy

[joeking1978]

i own a 335 coupe 6mt, and i am planning on getting a 135 because i love that car. they are both great cars, but the 135 is more exhilarating and fun to drive and its much faster around the track...i have tested both on the track.

a good friend of mine is switching to a 135 when he trades in his 330 this month.

One of the hard problems... is it is friggen impossible to find 6mt's around Naples. The demographic comprises of a strong geriatric population and every dealership around sells nothing but auto's. Since you always get a better deal with what's already on the lot... I may be stuck going with a steptronic eitherway. :( At least this one works better then those I've used in the past.


So at this point... it's still a tough call. I do love the look of the 335 coupe and how its more car... but for some reason, I'd almost feel guilty taking it to a track... whereas the 135... feels like I'd be doing an injustice if I didn't

[midduke]

man thats a real tough decision haha, i would go the 135 though, just such a sexy car, than again so is the 335........ to hard

[adamnur]

I'd go 335 hands down. It's larger in all dimensions, looks better (IMO), is not TOO much more expensive, and it's far more practical.

Most people who seem to get the 1 series seem to get it only for the looks. Other than weight and being more nimble, I'm not sure it has any other advantages.

The best thing you could do here is to speak to different people who have driven both cars and can give you an objective opinion.

[joeking1978]

I'd go 335 hands down. It's larger in all dimensions, looks better (IMO), is not TOO much more expensive, and it's far more practical.

Most people who seem to get the 1 series seem to get it only for the looks. Other than weight and being more nimble, I'm not sure it has any other advantages.

The best thing you could do here is to speak to different people who have driven both cars and can give you an objective opinion.

I agree... I'd prefer the 335... but after driving the 135... I agree with what most have said- it is much more exhilirating to drive.


Do many people track the 335 cpe? I think that is one thing holding me back.

[jibaholic101]

a good friend of mine is switching to a 135 when he trades in his 330 this month.

One of the hard problems... is it is friggen impossible to find 6mt's around Naples. The demographic comprises of a strong geriatric population and every dealership around sells nothing but auto's. Since you always get a better deal with what's already on the lot... I may be stuck going with a steptronic eitherway. :( At least this one works better then those I've used in the past.


So at this point... it's still a tough call. I do love the look of the 335 coupe and how its more car... but for some reason, I'd almost feel guilty taking it to a track... whereas the 135... feels like I'd be doing an injustice if I didn't

yeah, more and more bimmer dealers are not getting the stick format. most people are too lazy. thats why i plan on ordering it, i get to choose everything that i want.

[shhuang]

i have a 135i - i don't see how a 335i coupe is "much more practical"

[Mun1ch]

i would go with the 135, love the way it looks, its lighter, sharper, it is smaller but if space is not a factor i would definitely go with the 135, check out 1addicts.com before you make your choice

[joeking1978]

i would go with the 135, love the way it looks, its lighter, sharper, it is smaller but if space is not a factor i would definitely go with the 135, check out 1addicts.com before you make your choice

well... using their select financing and taking advantage of the demo cost... it looks like I can walk away with the 135i for $449 a month. :eyecrazy This may have made my decision for me!!

Germain BMW just had another demo turned in for the 335 that they claim they can do even better on... so unless they are going to pull a miracle and get it close to $500... (with select financing)... I may be going 135!

[adamnur]

i have a 135i - i don't see how a 335i coupe is "much more practical"

Generally a car that is larger and can fit more things in it and seat more people more comfortably would be deemed much more practical, especially as a daily driver.

[gsxrpeter]

the 335 is a way better car. From what the reviews have said they came short on the 135 in many ways no pun intendid

[nort0188]

I'd go 335, mainly because I prefer a coupe to a convertible for DD. Throw some Dinan software and an oil cooler at it, and you'll be set. I wouldn't want to mess around with aftermarket software on a brand new (under warranty) car. Dinan will match BMWs warranty, so if their products are deemed to be the cause of an issue, they'll pay for it.

[joeking1978]

alright... add to my dilemma. Infinite just came to the table today with a 3 yr, 36k lease on the new G37 Sport (FULLY loaded) (MSRP- 44,500k) for $439 a month... ZERO down!

aye...


so 135i about 4k down... select financing... 449 a month (convertible) fully loaded with everything but Navi) to own... or the Infiniti G37 (which has had great reviews thus far and JD powers did rank Infiniti 2nd only to Porsche on initial quality afterall...)

I'm still leaning toward the BMW... but that did complicate things!

[Amir@AvusAutosport]

bigger isn't better.

Guess what you want out of the car. Since you're getting a vert I doubt weight is one of your concerns so I'd drive both and get the one that calls your name.

For me I'd take a 1 series hands down. And that thing does not look small. It looks huge and is huge. It just seems like more fun, and I have no use for rear seats anyway.

[frey328is]

first, take a look at the address bar on your internet explorer...it says 'bimmerforums' and that is how its spelled...beamer makes it sound like we are driving a flashlight...i dont mean to sound like a dick just you are on a bmw site buying a bmw i think you should know its spelled bimmer

i am not fond of the 135 design...i feel like some of the new bmw's are starting to look a little like a pig

also not a fan of any 'vert...adds a ton of weight and the car is less sturdy

if its a new 335 then i say go with that...i mean sit the cars next to each other and the 335 obviously looks SO much better.:buttrock

[shhuang]

Generally a car that is larger and can fit more things in it and seat more people more comfortably would be deemed much more practical, especially as a daily driver.


a 335i coupe seats the same amount of people as a 135i coupe does.

backseat space shrinks a little bit

trunk space is 1 cu ft smaller than 335i coupe.

not seeing a huge difference here.

[Treepusher]

Drive all three cars and pick the one you like best. Unless it's strictly about the money, in which case pick the cheapest.

Your choice should also depend on how you'll be using the car, and on what kind of roads. If you're heavily highway, I'd suggest the 335i coupe. Those things are solid.

Secondary roads, then the 135i or the infiniti.

Looks are a personal decision. To me, the 135i is a bathtub on wheels, with no visual appeal whatsoever, and would be last on my list, even tho it's perhaps the most agile of the group. Your aesthetic sense undoubtedly is different from mine.

All are good cars. Choose the one you want most. Simple.

[joeking1978]

the way it is right now... I want the 335i. I'd prefer the coupe over the vert and I want a little more car. However, my wife... who's part of this decision process as well... go figure :( wants the 135 vert BAD! She's always wanted a vert- so I figured IF we were to get one- at least the 135 is the best of both worlds.

The G37 was a sharp sharp car... I can't take any credit from it. The price is sick as well (the cheapest of the 3 despite the MSRP being comparable)... however my wife HATES this car. She doesn't like the cockpit feel to it (which I actually like- go figure again). So at this point- I'm hoping Germain comes to the table with a good enough price on the 335 demo that I can justify why we shouldn't get the 135i.

So I'VE decided on the 335. Its just a matter of talking my wife into it... but based off of the feedback in this thread... if I HAVE to get the 135 (aka- I don't want to sleep on the couch for a month)... then I won't be too sad. :)

[MagneZium]

a 335i coupe seats the same amount of people as a 135i coupe does.

backseat space shrinks a little bit

trunk space is 1 cu ft smaller than 335i coupe.

not seeing a huge difference here.

Exactly. I've driven the 1-series convertible and even though I don't usually like 4-seat convertibles at all due to the extra weight, the 1-series is seriously impressive. It is very sturdy, and since the 1-series is more agile and lively to drive than the 3-series to begin with... You really can't feel the extra weight, and remember that the 335i coupe weighs almost exactly the same (as manual), with a few options they are equal.

Nowadays with the quality of convertibles it is easy to go with the drop-top. In my opinion you lose nothing in getting a 1-series unless you yourself have to sit in the back seat for long periods of time. And you gain in character and agility.

Don't belittle the 1-series please, 3-series was split up into two separate models: the 3-series and 1-series. That way BMW can offer the traditional old-style 3-series fun driving experience (1-series) and a more grown-up and more spacious car than before (3-series). Both are just as sophisticated under the skin, they are sister models.

The 3-series coupe isn't less of a car than the touring is just because it has less space (and with those two there is more of a difference)... Neither is the 1-series less of a car than the 3-series just because its rear seats offer a narrower space for the two passengers and has a few options less.

Of course the 3-series has its strenghts, I just focused on defending the 1-series from preconceptions and unjust criticism. Still, I think the 1-series is such an amazing package especially if you don't need to chauffeur people around in the back seat all the time. It is more youthful, fresh and sporty in nature, and I'm sure it will be one of those BMW's that are more fondly remembered in the future. It is quite an achievement to be so desirable compared to the more elegant, classy, and in general amazing 3-series.

I think the only bigger negative thing about the 1-series is that is a BIT girly and too 'cute' in convertible form. With the TT 3.0 that isn't so bad though, the performance makes up for it.

[joeking1978]

Exactly. I've driven the 1-series convertible and even though I don't usually like 4-seat convertibles at all due to the extra weight, the 1-series is seriously impressive. It is very sturdy, and since the 1-series is more agile and lively to drive than the 3-series to begin with... You really can't feel the extra weight, and remember that the 335i coupe weighs almost exactly the same (as manual), with a few options they are equal.

Nowadays with the quality of convertibles it is easy to go with the drop-top. In my opinion you lose nothing in getting a 1-series unless you yourself have to sit in the back seat for long periods of time. And you gain in character and agility.

Don't belittle the 1-series please, 3-series was split up into two separate models: the 3-series and 1-series. That way BMW can offer the traditional old-style 3-series fun driving experience (1-series) and a more grown-up and more spacious car than before (3-series). Both are just as sophisticated under the skin, they are sister models.

The 3-series coupe isn't less of a car than the touring is just because it has less space (and with those two there is more of a difference)... Neither is the 1-series less of a car than the 3-series just because its rear seats offer a narrower space for the two passengers and has a few options less.

Of course the 3-series has its strenghts, I just focused on defending the 1-series from preconceptions and unjust criticism. Still, I think the 1-series is such an amazing package especially if you don't need to chauffeur people around in the back seat all the time. It is more youthful, fresh and sporty in nature, and I'm sure it will be one of those BMW's that are more fondly remembered in the future. It is quite an achievement to be so desirable compared to the more elegant, classy, and in general amazing 3-series.

I think the only bigger negative thing about the 1-series is that is a BIT girly and too 'cute' in convertible form. With the TT 3.0 that isn't so bad though, the performance makes up for it.

:handclap

[MagneZium]

The G37 was a sharp sharp car... I can't take any credit from it. The price is sick as well (the cheapest of the 3 despite the MSRP being comparable)... however my wife HATES this car. She doesn't like the cockpit feel to it (which I actually like- go figure again). So at this point- I'm hoping Germain comes to the table with a good enough price on the 335 demo that I can justify why we shouldn't get the 135i.

So I'VE decided on the 335. Its just a matter of talking my wife into it... but based off of the feedback in this thread... if I HAVE to get the 135 (aka- I don't want to sleep on the couch for a month)... then I won't be too sad. :)

As someone who is crazy about convertibles even though deep down I am a driving purist (therefore roadsters are the choice for me), I believe I can understand both your and your wife's points of view.

Is a 328i convertible out of the question? Well, I suspect it won't be as desireable to you, and I think that isn't such a great compromise either. It is even heavier with the hard-top, so it will be miles away from the 335i coupe/135i 'vert experience. So I wouldn't go for that even though I think the 3-series 'vert is the best looking BMW by far and a great overall package for an only car with the 3.0 turbo.

When considering the price of the Infiniti, are you taking into account resale value, BMW maintenance etc? I don't know the details of those over there in the US, so this is just a question. USUALLY if a BMW is similar in purchase price, you will have spent less by the time you have made the deal on your next car! (We are getting Infiniti for the first time next year over here in Europe, and pricing is different here anyway, so don't know the situation with those exact cars)

I'd rather consider a 335i convertible with more miles on it (that car won't fall apart any time soon) or go for the 135i convertible. Two reasons: that engine, and to be able to hear it with the roof down (with fresh air twirling around the cabin)...

[joeking1978]

As someone who is crazy about convertibles even though deep down I am a driving purist (therefore roadsters are the choice for me), I believe I can understand both your and your wife's points of view.

Is a 328i convertible out of the question? Well, I suspect it won't be as desireable to you, and I think that isn't such a great compromise either. It is even heavier with the hard-top, so it will be miles away from the 335i coupe/135i 'vert experience. So I wouldn't go for that even though I think the 3-series 'vert is the best looking BMW by far and a great overall package for an only car with the 3.0 turbo.

When considering the price of the Infiniti, are you taking into account resale value, BMW maintenance etc? I don't know the details of those over there in the US, so this is just a question. USUALLY if a BMW is similar in purchase price, you will have spent less by the time you have made the deal on your next car! (We are getting Infiniti for the first time next year over here in Europe, and pricing is different here anyway, so don't know the situation with those exact cars)

I'd rather consider a 335i convertible with more miles on it (that car won't fall apart any time soon) or go for the 135i convertible. Two reasons: that engine, and to be able to hear it with the roof down (with fresh air twirling around the cabin)...
thanks for the advice! that is helpful...

[shhuang]

imo.. the 135i looks much more like a proper BMW than the E9x 3 series do.

also... the 135i comes with much better brakes than the 335i does, coupe or not.

[Leco]

Coupe vs Coupe, 135i.

But cabrio vs cabrio, well, if you wanna a cabrio you probably don't wanna go to a racetrack, so i would get the 335i cabrio, just because it looks freaking beautiful.

[dropcards]

yup 355 all the way

[TopasBlau46]

yup 355 all the way

355?! Where?!

On a realistic note, the 135 is quicker and more nimble, the 335 is more practical and not much slower at all (.1 slower in the 0-60 IIRC). Drive both and decide for yourself.

[evolution3]

i think the 135 will be the best power to weight ratio, besides the m3.

[neilol]

335 hands down

[joeking1978]

so... in summury... it's 50% vote for 135... and 50% vote for 335! GREAT HELP! :D

I think I've been able to talk the wife out of the vert... I love the HP/LBS ratio in the 135. when chipped... it is actually BETTER then the M3... but I do think I need a little more room... so the 335 should work. it'll all depend on what deal I get on the 335

[Sexymeatball]

:lol

first, take a look at the address bar on your internet explorer...it says 'bimmerforums' and that is how its spelled...beamer makes it sound like we are driving a flashlight...i dont mean to sound like a dick just you are on a bmw site buying a bmw i think you should know its spelled bimmer

i am not fond of the 135 design...i feel like some of the new bmw's are starting to look a little like a pig

also not a fan of any 'vert...adds a ton of weight and the car is less sturdy

if its a new 335 then i say go with that...i mean sit the cars next to each other and the 335 obviously looks SO much better.:buttrock

That's because "bimmer" denotes a BMW auto and is pronounced exactly how it looks, while "beamer" refers to a BMW motorcycle.

Oh, and 335

[FLYINV]

I could never live with the looks of the 1 series. Plus its not that much lighter or faster than the 3 series coupe which is probably BMW's best looking car right now. I was driving behind one on saturday night and that thing sounded amazing when the owner gunned it.

[NMMR]

i drag raced a 135 vs a 335 and it was a tie from 20-100mph

135 looks a bit tarded from the front but the 335 looks like a beautiful hawk., the 135 is a bit girly.. and too many U shapes in the front grill and headlights

[oldymcoldington]

335 +1

[shhuang]

the E9x 3 series have grown too big and fat...

while the E82 is pretty damn close to the E36 in dimensions.

[Realtorman23]

The 335 is a 335 period. The 1 is nice if your a woman or rich highschool girl. these engines are so finely tuned that you really don't need a chip in a 335. It has it all already.SO much fun to drive!! Good luck to you! I think you already know which one to get. 335!!

[jibaholic101]

The 335 is a 335 period. The 1 is nice if your a woman or rich highschool girl. these engines are so finely tuned that you really don't need a chip in a 335. It has it all already.SO much fun to drive!! Good luck to you! I think you already know which one to get. 335!!

how can you say that? the 1 is a better car in my opinion, and i own a 335i coupe. they are more nimble and more fun to drive. better track car as well. women and high school girls fall into the X5 and X3 category.

[HeyMoe53]

I've always wondered about why people make "girly car" a central issue in the car buying process.

"Girly" or not, as the owner, you have to be happy about the prospects of driving the car every time you fire it up.

To me, that is the central issue.

In my mind, there really isn't a bad-looking BMW car. It is all about driving it, and how you plan to drive it.

[shhuang]

I've always wondered about why people make "girly car" a central issue in the car buying process.

"Girly" or not, as the owner, you have to be happy about the prospects of driving the car every time you fire it up.

To me, that is the central issue.

In my mind, there really isn't a bad-looking BMW car. It is all about driving it, and how you plan to drive it.

a lot of people seem to buy BMWs to be seen in them, rather than to actually drive an enjoy them, as shown by many of the posts in this thread.

[jibaholic101]

well for us true drivers....the 1 is a better track car because it is lighter and more nimble. but if you want pure track performance step it up to an m

[joeking1978]

well for us true drivers....the 1 is a better track car because it is lighter and more nimble. but if you want pure track performance step it up to an m

no offense to M owners out there... but if im going to spend that much money on a "pure track" car... theres about a dozen other cars Id buy first. ;)the M is an awesome car but with luxury and performance combined... but in no way is it the best performance car for its price.

[nort0188]

the M is an awesome car but with luxury and performance combined... but in no way is it the best performance car for its price.

The E36 M is. Just get one of those :buttrock

[AbsolutDrew]

The 335 is a 335 period. The 1 is nice if your a woman or rich highschool girl. these engines are so finely tuned that you really don't need a chip in a 335. It has it all already.SO much fun to drive!! Good luck to you! I think you already know which one to get. 335!!

Couldn't have said it better myself. the 335 will be much more enjoyable for you to drive.

[MrBlah]

the 335 is a way better car. From what the reviews have said they came short on the 135 in many ways no pun intendid

do you have a link to any of these reviews? Every one I've read praised the 135i

[MrBlah]

anyone that recomends one or the other without driving both is clueless, and that's a fact

they drive and feel very different, when I bought my 135i the 135i and the 335i were the same price with the .9 % financing on the 335i

I still choose the 135i because it feels so much better, the interior is smaller and I prefer that

yes it's only inches, but those inches feel a LOT different

Go drive both, then decide, because they are the same car with a different feel, same components for most of the car, same build quality, same assembly line, same parts, but they sure feel different

price should not be a factor when you pick between two cars like this

[shhuang]

do you have a link to any of these reviews? Every one I've read praised the 135i

Jeremy Clarkson called it the best car BMW currently makes, and he generally hates BMWs

[Mun1ch]

Jeremy Clarkson called it the best car BMW currently makes, and he generally hates BMWs

1addicts.com see what they think;)

[kornkid8600]

If you're never going to use the back seats 1 series all the way. 3 series is bigger more bloated not as sporty. Get the coupe though.

[joeking1978]

135i it is!! :redspot


After driving it one more time... I was hooked!


It is Red with Tope canvas and leather. Sports Package, Premium Package, M package (M wheels and steering wheel).

The only thing it doesn't have is a navi... but ah well.


I did find out too that it does have built in roll bars- so it IS trackable. :D :D


(Dinan stage 2... here I come! :buttrock)

[jibaholic101]

you bought it? congratulations !! lets see some pictures !! is it a manual?

[MrBlah]

135i it is!! :redspot


After driving it one more time... I was hooked!


It is Red with Tope canvas and leather. Sports Package, Premium Package, M package (M wheels and steering wheel).

The only thing it doesn't have is a navi... but ah well.


I did find out too that it does have built in roll bars- so it IS trackable. :D :D


(Dinan stage 2... here I come! :buttrock)

so what made you like the 135i? They do feel quite a bit better than the 335i dont they?

I was just not impressed by the 335i handling/feeling at all, the 135i has the right amount of cozyness.

Both cars do suffer from that damned electronic steering, I hate it, BMW, please bring back the E30 quick ratio racks

[joeking1978]

you bought it? congratulations !! lets see some pictures !! is it a manual?

pics will be coming this afternoon after I get some tedious errands done... Unfortunately, I live in God's final stomping ground... aka- Naples... where the population of blue hairs and snow birds is exponentially greater then that of 30yr old men like myself.

...therefore... it is next to impossible to find manual transmissions within about 75 miles of Naples. EVERYTHING is steptronic. Fortunately, I did a lot of research and some avid track guys say the new steptronic actually performs quite well. The only thing I can't really do is rpm load...

[joeking1978]

so what made you like the 135i? They do feel quite a bit better than the 335i dont they?

I was just not impressed by the 335i handling/feeling at all, the 135i has the right amount of cozyness.

Both cars do suffer from that damned electronic steering, I hate it, BMW, please bring back the E30 quick ratio racks

A part of it was the price... it was another 1k down for the 335, plus about 100 more a month for payments. I felt the 135 (even with the vert) was more responsive. Knowing that a simple Dinan chip down the road will give it a better hp/weight ratio then the M3 was nice as well... plus I love the 50/50 balancing. Seeing that it outperformed the Porsche Cayman on Top Gear really impressed me too. Seeing that it had the built in Roll Bars so it would be track legal in the future was a plus too.

I've always loved roadsters (I had an s2k for a few years that was a blast) and wanted one again this time... but just in case we have a kid before my wife's done with med school... we need the extra seats... so this kind of gives me the best of both worlds... and in 3-4 years- when it becomes a 3rd car... it'll be fun to mod and prep for track use.

Where a 335i... was more luxury. It was a car I could see myself trading in 3-4 years. Fun now... and sexy now... but not a potential keeper.

[MatthewDFW]

Definitely 135i. Love mine. Leprecauns only in back seats, cause it ain't roomy in rear. Still, it is dynamite fun to drive (335 inline six engine in smaller, lighter car). Note: 14 gallon fuel capacity doesn't give you terribly great long-distance range. Get as many performance upgrades as you can (brakes, struts, exhaust) - and the short-throw stick will keep a grin on your face (assuming no slushbox).

[GR330ZHP]

Well thats a very hard decision...
I think the 135i is probably quicker and maybe a little more fun, but the 335i has almost the same performance, and larger but sexier body style...

I would go with the 335i

Good luck! Which ever one you buy, you bought a great car!

[joeking1978]

here are the pics as promised! (only 2 so far... I've been to busy driving to take a lot of photos! :D)

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/joeking1978/IMG_1004.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g225/joeking1978/IMG_1005.jpg

[MatthewDFW]

Good call! Looks great. You're going to have tremendous fun.

[RyRy Slingshot]

They're both awesome cars. I guess It should depend more on what would be more practical for you. The 335 and wicked fast but also could be a potential family ride, but if practically is not an issue I'd say 135

[Russian325is]

well....I went for the 335 cause of the looks...rear end is just sex...135 is still nice....but the rear end imo is not that sexy...besides for a few $ more u get a bigger car.

I'm sure u'll have fun on both...same engine so, nothing to worry about. I guess it's just a matter of looks.

[Russian325is]

hah...nvm...i didn't make it to the 3rd page...

nice car...and congrats on your new bimmer

[joeking1978]

hah...nvm...i didn't make it to the 3rd page...

nice car...and congrats on your new bimmer

lol... thanks!

[Mun1ch]

sick car are you going to mod it?

[joeking1978]

sick car are you going to mod it?

yeah... once I got a few thousand miles... I pla on starting with a piggy back ecu... apparently the servicemanager at my dealer I a rep for a chip dealer in florida on the sideand promises that the warrently won't be voided as long as I always service it at that dealer....

[BMWManiac]

I'm in the same boat, and I've only driven the 135 at this point. I absolutely loved it too! My only, only complaint is that the clutch is extremely light...kind of felt like a car with a lightweight flywheel. For comparison, yes, the turbo M has a heavier clutch, but my 91 318i has what I think is the perfect weight/effort too and I drove that one to the dealership.