What is a Better car Mercedes or BMW and why is one car better then the other car

[FunnyNameYYYY]

What is a Better car Mercedes or BMW and why is one car better then the other car

[jibaholic101]

depends on how you drive, if you drive the "kids" around, or drive like a grandma, then a mercedes is for you! they are soft and cooshy rides that are for luxury and feeling good.

bmws are more sporty, and aside from the 7, ride harder and more sporty. however, the performance is unmatched. the bmw kills the mercedes. the 50/50 weight distribution is fantastic. the bmws can really be pushed. ie: driving on a curved circular onramp. in the mercedes, at 65, the car will be leaning hard to one side. with the bmw you are perfectly flat. also, it doesnt have the throwing of the weight the mercedes has.

conclusion...bmw=ultimate driving machine!!@

[2000M52]

depends on how you drive, if you drive the "kids" around, or drive like a grandma, then a mercedes is for you! They are soft and cooshy rides that are for luxury and feeling good.

Bmws are more sporty, and aside from the 7, ride harder and more sporty. However, the performance is unmatched. The bmw kills the mercedes. The 50/50 weight distribution is fantastic. The bmws can really be pushed. Ie: Driving on a curved circular onramp. In the mercedes, at 65, the car will be leaning hard to one side. With the bmw you are perfectly flat. Also, it doesnt have the throwing of the weight the mercedes has.

Conclusion...bmw=ultimate driving machine!!@


+1,000,000!

[RabidChimp]

You are on a BMW enthusiast forum do you really need an answer?

[ryane39m5]

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That is a question that just can't be answered without bias on this forum! I don't think it can be answered in general, there's no "better" one, its a personal preference.

[spookymilk]

Too bad BMW doesn't have a car in production as sexy as the CLS.

*puts on flak jacket*

[apollo322]

Too bad BMW doesn't have a car in production as sexy as the CLS.

*puts on flak jacket*

No need to duck as far as I'm concerned, IMO Mercedes recent car styles have it all over the current BMW's. I'll still take an older M3 over any car they make, but if your looking for a bigger sedan the E63, CLS, CL and S-Class are simply beautiful.

[paulmer]

No B-pillar FTW


No need to duck as far as I'm concerned, IMO Mercedes recent car styles have it all over the current BMW's.Seconded. Hate all new BMW's...every Bangle design sucks the big one. Love the new Benz's, though.

[the andrew]

Like mentioned above a bias will be present on this forum, the best opinion is YOURS not theirs, some people on this forum have never had the privilage to drive a Benz, a real one anyhow, each big car wants to be like the S-class every small car wants to be like the BMW 3 series. Up until I drove an S-class I never realized a car drive could be so serene and absorb every bump and not letting you know about it, then again I drive my 3 series and it handles well and I have complete control before, during and through a turn, but I don't take every turn at lightning speeds, plus my 500 mile weekly comute is mostly highway driving so a larger smoother car would actually be more of a primary choice for me.

As far as suspensions go MB wins, they may be used to make cushy rides but for example the new seven series just got a double pivot design up front, basically a double wishbone design, doing whats best for handling AND comfort, the result; separating wheel movement and bump absorbtion. MB has been using Double wisbone or a double pivot for along time where as BMW has only used only a few models the X5 being one of the more popular consumer vehicles. The double pivot sesign enhances steering precision and allows the wheel camber to be more precisly controlled during suspension compression.

As far as straight up durability goes it seems everyone has a different opinion but I have two great examples. A good neighbor of mine has a 96 S class, w140 S420. It currently has 234,xxx miles on it, it runs mint, shifts like new, and the only work done so far was moonroof and front ball joints. Then there's his other car, a 95 e34 540ia, it has 140,xxx on it so far it's had a new tranny, new steering links and joints, numerous sensors, trip computer, motor mounts and to top it off, a rear wheel bearing. He has had these cars since new.

Now some people may say "so what the merc is so soft and cushy, how could you ever tell that some has gone wrong" no need to argue, here's two examples in real life. Period.

Remember don't listen to consumers report and the like, most companies are bought to say so, like motor trend giving the CTS car of the year when clearly the interior is rubbish and the steering column still shakes when hitting small bumps. It's a car built by a penny pincher not an engineer.


Find out for yourself, do some research, find out how, who and why the car you want was built drive it, stare at it, dig around. People will always have opinions, the best to is not ask on a BMW, MB etc forum but maybe on a general automotive forum or the like..


Best regards.

[Kaiv]

On bimmerforums, BMWs are better. On Mercedes forums, Mercedes are better.
/thread

[ryane39m5]

On bimmerforums, BMWs are better. On Mercedes forums, Mercedes are better.
/thread


+1

[gothicaleigh]

Cadillac. :shifty






No, seriously. Cadillac.

http://blog.cochesalaventa.com/_fotos/2009-Cadillac-CTS-V-laps-Nurburgring-in-759.32_38954_6.jpg

[jibaholic101]

On bimmerforums, BMWs are better. On Mercedes forums, Mercedes are better.
/thread

i have driven both, and i inherited a c320, so i own one as well...if the mercedes was a better car...i would say it, however, the one advantage benz has over bmw is the retractable roof. i mean cmon, how badass would a 6 be with a retractable roof?

[gothicaleigh]

i have driven both, and i inherited a c320, so i own one as well...if the mercedes was a better car...i would say it, however, the one advantage benz has over bmw is the retractable roof. i mean cmon, how badass would a 6 be with a retractable roof?

How heavy would a six be with a retractable roof?

I think we're forgetting the kind of car a BMW is supposed to be.

[E36BMW3series]

My friend just went from a 96 328ic to a 04 C240 sedan. The difference is night and day compared to my M3. It all depends what you want. Both are German engineered so you don't have to worry about them falling apart like their American counterparts. If you want a sporty car go with a BMW, if you want a "Refined" luxury car that has some get up and go and good straight line speed and practicality go for the Merc. If you want a sports car with some get up and go, and enjoy being at one with your car as you go around corners and on/off ramps at high speeds you can't go wrong with the Bimmer.

I think the stereotype of the Merc suspensions being really squishy is exaggerated a lot. They still handle A LOT better than any American car, they just don't handle like a BMW, BECAUSE ITS NOT A BMW!!! My friends car handels fine, even with 15" rims and All Season tires.

[gregmm6]

Try using some punctuation and capitalization in your posts, it would make them much easier to read.

[TopasBlau46]

BMW have gone in two different directions design wise. The ugly and the amazing. E92 is amazing, E90 is ugly. Although the face lifted E90 is more acceptable IMO.

I think BMW is beginning to rectify the ugly bangle aspects and is weeding them out of their current line up. Even the E60 is growing on me.

For sure the new W204 C class is attractive, even the new B8 A4 is looking great, they're going to give BMW a run for their money.

[1995M3LTW]

Tata

[jibaholic101]

How heavy would a six be with a retractable roof?

I think we're forgetting the kind of car a BMW is supposed to be.

yeah, then give it more power to compensate the weight. there are a lot of other places they could ditch some weight by using different metals to compensate for it. but you wouldnt have the noise of a soft top, and if you live in a city, no one can go up and knife the top to break into your car...

[Charlie]

We're all about Buicks here now, MB & BMW are old news.

Get with the times man.

-Charlie

[InlineSixx]

Honduh is teh bettah one. :shifty

[andrewmacc]

Toyota Tercel for the win.

[gothicaleigh]

yeah, then give it more power to compensate the weight. there are a lot of other places they could ditch some weight by using different metals to compensate for it. but you wouldnt have the noise of a soft top, and if you live in a city, no one can go up and knife the top to break into your car...

More power is going to compensate for the extra weight on the top of the car? How does more power compensate for a higher center of gravity when making a turn? How does more power compensate for more weight when braking?

More power in a car that has to be factory warranted to meet emissions, fuel, and safety regulations just does not magically appear either. If BMW could squeeze 'more power' out of the current technology without affecting any of those or the price of the engine, don't you think they already would have done it?

[Auraraptor]

i have driven both, and i inherited a c320, so i own one as well...if the mercedes was a better car...i would say it, however, the one advantage benz has over bmw is the retractable roof. i mean cmon, how badass would a 6 be with a retractable roof?

3er vert has a retract hardtop.

[fawcett]

Toyota Tercel for the win.

Hell yeah

[Amir@AvusAutosport]

Neither is better.

[monksterman]

BMW have gone in two different directions design wise. The ugly and the amazing. E92 is amazing, E90 is ugly. Although the face lifted E90 is more acceptable IMO.

I think BMW is beginning to rectify the ugly bangle aspects and is weeding them out of their current line up. Even the E60 is growing on me.

For sure the new W204 C class is attractive, even the new B8 A4 is looking great, they're going to give BMW a run for their money.

I beg to differ...I like the E90's! Well, that is, when they're proportioned correctly. By that I mean, the "standard" examples with the 16" wheels just don't look totally "right" to my eye, though they're not ugly. Add the 17"'s and they start looking better. When you get to the staggered fitment 18" and add the sport pkg. that's the tit's to me...just totally purposfully hunkered down with the right amount of subtlety, maybe even a little understatedment. But you KNOW it's the real deal. It's amazing to me how the BMW engineers pull it off to perfection. :alright

But back more on topic, I agree it's all to an individual's opinion and taste as to which is the "better" car. I have to say when I bought my 06 325i that had pretty much everything except comfort access (navi, sport/prem, xenons, rain sensing, voice, multi-function wheel, even the shades pkg) I drove an 04 of the same ilk on both freeway and city streets, to get a baseline. I must say that when I got into the 06 and drove it, I KNEW after three blocks that it was the better example and immediately bought it. And on the 2 hour trip home I had a rudimentary understanding of the I-Drive system and programmed some things into it. (The drive was at night, which was the perfect setting. No distractions. Just played with the various menus and the voice command until I had an understanding. It was kind of surreal to tell the truth. It was teaching me in a very real sense!). Note for clarification: I'm definitely not a computer whiz either.
So my advice is to find examples of each manufacture, drive them for at least 30 minutes each, ideally more, and see if one of them "speaks" more to you than the other! Good luck and don't let any salesman pressure you! :buttrock

[dirtye30]

I hate these kinds of threads. I just wanted to make one thing clear:

Any modern AMG -55 or -63 with chew up an M car in a straight line.

That isn't to say they are better. It is all about personal preference. BMW M philosophy is a different book compared to Mercedes AMG.

Neither of these manufacturers are better than the other.

[Trapper50cal]

Granting that the Bimmer in this comparison is more nimble.....

500/560 SEC vs. 633/635csi???

[Auraraptor]

Granting that the Bimmer in this comparison is more nimble.....

500/560 SEC vs. 633/635csi???

Love both. E24s are indeed much much more nimble. 560s are tanks on wheels and straight line beasts. Both are great cars.

[midduke]

Try using some punctuation and capitalization in your posts, it would make them much easier to read.

This guy won't give up, its a forum man, no one cares about how well people type.

[jontd]

Is it too late to vote for Kia? Cause they're awesome.

[orggilak]

i heard this from a mercedes staff
bmw = to drive for
mercedes = to be driven

looks like mercedes dont want to their cars to handle like a bmw,not because they cant

[kornkid8600]

Just know a few things there's a few AMG's out there that will waste the M cars completely on a track.

[mvancE30]

Too bad BMW doesn't have a car in production as sexy as the CLS.

*puts on flak jacket*

too bad the cls is an automatic.




but then again im starting to agree with you. new bmw's are starting to look "blah" and boring like lexus. with MB look aggressive.

[beshannon]

I have owned both a C230 and a 330i.

Both are (were) great cars.

Since you have one post, welcome to the forum, perhaps you can clarify what information you are looking for since "better" is totally subjective for anything.

[Wolfen]

Mercedes is a better car then BMW. They're more refined, more expensive, more prestigious and again more expensive. Those are facts. Also their AMG series are faster and more powerful then BMW's M line.


The difference is, BMW's are more oriented for "sport" with some luxury while Mercedes is more of a luxury ride with some "sport"

But then there's Mercedes SL65 AMG.

All bias aside, MB is a better car.

1. Mercedes
2. BMW
3. Audi
4. VW

[ohnoes]

Mercedes is a better car then BMW. They're more refined, more expensive, more prestigious and again more expensive. Those are facts. Also their AMG series are faster and more powerful then BMW's M line.


The difference is, BMW's are more oriented for "sport" with some luxury while Mercedes is more of a luxury ride with some "sport"

But then there's Mercedes SL65 AMG.

All bias aside, MB is a better car.

1. Mercedes
2. BMW
3. Audi
4. VW

This post is how I know you're from Europe (or, at the very least, from another country). I don't think Americans view the cars much differently in terms of prestige; but, there are definitely stereotypes about the cars and their respective drivers. BMW drivers are known for being more aggressive, new-money go-getters; Benz drivers are thought of as more old-money, less to prove, less interested in "spirited" driving, more intent on simply getting from point A to point B in style, comfort, and refinement.

I don't think either car is objectively "better." For me, BMWs are the ticket. For people who are looking for a cushy and more refined ride, Benz is. It really just depends on your priorities, but I find posts like the one I'm quoting to be absolutely asinine. BMW and Mercedes are on the same plane, at least in the U.S. Audi and Lexus are one tier below.

[driver145]

MBs are born on the autobahn, Porsches on the 'ring', BMWs somewhere in between...

I think that sums up their goals and what the end results are.

MBs are 100% daily drivers, even the SLR and AMGs are amazing daily drivers. I rented a 2.0l 4cyl, base model E series with a little supercharger (E200k). It went 145mph on the autobahn. Awesome car but when I drove it on the nürbugring it sucked. The balance wasnt great and it rolled and pitched like crazy. But on the autobahn, it was AMAZING considering it is one of the slowest models they make. The top speed is about the same as my 330ci...

BMWs are simply the ultimate driving machine. If you want a sporty car that goes where you want it to and can be driven comfortably every day and hold its own on a race track, and is made to be driven fast on any type of road you might find in Bavaria, then the BMW is for you. I will never own a Merc or Porsche and will always own a BMW, because they make exactly what I want in a daily driver....

Porsches are built for the race track but for the person that wants to drive it everyday. I do not like Porsches that much (but I very much appreciate them and those who can drive them at the limit), but they definitely own the Nürbugring.

Here are some videos of my rental car in germany :D:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6xh2ECMO9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCl992yDYJY

[GR330ZHP]

BMW IS THE ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No brand is better than a BMW overall for driving!! Mercedes is meant more for cruising the boulevard...Don't get me wrong though...an 03-06 Mercedes E55 is amazing...but nothing is better than BMW...even the 7 series drives sporty...especially the E38 Sport

Give me an E39 M5 or E46 M3!!

[RabidChimp]

This post is how I know you're from Europe (or, at the very least, from another country). I don't think Americans view the cars much differently in terms of prestige; but, there are definitely stereotypes about the cars and their respective drivers. BMW drivers are known for being more aggressive, new-money go-getters; Benz drivers are thought of as more old-money, less to prove, less interested in "spirited" driving, more intent on simply getting from point A to point B in style, comfort, and refinement.

I don't think either car is objectively "better." For me, BMWs are the ticket. For people who are looking for a cushy and more refined ride, Benz is. It really just depends on your priorities, but I find posts like the one I'm quoting to be absolutely asinine. BMW and Mercedes are on the same plane, at least in the U.S. Audi and Lexus are one tier below.

Nice post

[Amir@AvusAutosport]

Mercedes is a better car then BMW. They're more refined, more expensive, more prestigious and again more expensive. Those are facts. Also their AMG series are faster and more powerful then BMW's M line.


The difference is, BMW's are more oriented for "sport" with some luxury while Mercedes is more of a luxury ride with some "sport"

But then there's Mercedes SL65 AMG.

All bias aside, MB is a better car.

1. Mercedes
2. BMW
3. Audi
4. VW
AMG faster than BMW's line? In what way? You can't just have a blanket statement that 1 is better than the other. This is just as bad as the BMW fan boys declaring BMW's as the ultimate and only driving machine and all their cars are personally touched by god. Around a track there are many Mercedes with gobs more power that get their asses handed to them by BMW's and many other cars.

Around the Ring the M3CSL is faster than any Mercedes except the SLR. The loaded CSL also destroyed the SLR at a fraction of the cost. Does this make BMW better? To me yes I'd take a CSL over any car in the Mercedes Range, but that doesn't make them a better manufacturer.

If Mercedes were just better then bmw audi lexus acura &infiniti wouldn't even exist since Mercedes would just dominate the market. I'm glad they don't since you wouldn't catch me dead in the snooze box that is a Mercedes. Yes they can shove a giant engine in their cars and make them rockets but that doesn't make them better cars. A manufacturer that produces only automatics is also very low on my greatest manufacturers list.

Like I said neither is better. I'd rather drive a BMW meaning BMW IS BETTER FOR ME. It's stupid to say that one is just better than the other. If you want to compare them to anyone you're better off comparing them to Lexus. That's more of an Apples to Apples comparison and you still wouldn't get an answer.

[driver145]

AMG faster than BMW's line? In what way? You can't just have a blanket statement that 1 is better than the other. This is just as bad as the BMW fan boys declaring BMW's as the ultimate and only driving machine and all their cars are personally touched by god. Around a track there are many Mercedes with gobs more power that get their asses handed to them by BMW's and many other cars.

Around the Ring the M3CSL is faster than any Mercedes except the SLR. The loaded CSL also destroyed the SLR at a fraction of the cost. Does this make BMW better? To me yes I'd take a CSL over any car in the Mercedes Range, but that doesn't make them a better manufacturer.

If Mercedes were just better then bmw audi lexus acura &infiniti wouldn't even exist since Mercedes would just dominate the market. I'm glad they don't since you wouldn't catch me dead in the snooze box that is a Mercedes. Yes they can shove a giant engine in their cars and make them rockets but that doesn't make them better cars. A manufacturer that produces only automatics is also very low on my greatest manufacturers list.

Like I said neither is better. I'd rather drive a BMW meaning BMW IS BETTER FOR ME. It's stupid to say that one is just better than the other. If you want to compare them to anyone you're better off comparing them to Lexus. That's more of an Apples to Apples comparison and you still wouldn't get an answer.

MB ONLY makes autos? Even the European models?

[TunedReference]

BMW or Mercedes? Chevy or Ford? Canon or Nikon?

It's absolutely ridiculous to make generalizations comparing the two brands.