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95s52
07-23-2008, 05:33 AM
So I'm heading out to the strip tomorrow. No new mods since my last few times out which both pulled the same exact best times. (13.834, both runs where done on fish's azenis) The traps where very different, 99 and 101 mph..

So guess, or better yet, tell me what my car "should" run with my existing mods.

95 m3:

Obd1 s52 (s50 headers/mid-pipe :()
m50 manni
#24 injectors
ss exhaust
3.5" HFM
euro intake
Turner software

I will be taking off spare/jack, rear seats and possibly the pass vader. Fuel will be at 2 gal even. I will also pull the left headlight for the "ram" intake action:buttrock I will make sure to weigh the car at the scales there.

I don't know if it makes a difference, but I mounted 245's in the rear on my 7.5'' rims. Much better traction, but I get a slight rub on tight turns.


I will be mainly focusing on my 60 foot. The 13.8 runs where done with a 2.3 and a 2.2 :rolleyes. So I'm looking to be consistent in the 2.1's and possibly hit a few 2.0's ;)

Any criticism and advice will be greatly appreciated.

s50swapped
07-23-2008, 05:38 AM
Whats the altitude at that track? Thats a horrible trap speed for those mods IMO.

You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

dEfUsEd
07-23-2008, 06:31 AM
Seems about where you should be. If you can get those 60's down around 2.0, you should pick up a couple 10ths in the end. That MPH is decent.

In my camaro, bone stock I ran a 13.998 @ 97mph. I've been dying to get the M3 down to the track. I actually went last weekend and I guess they were close because they thought it was going to rain.

Good luck, and be safe. Hope you got a helmet too. :P


Whats the altitude at that track? Thats a horrible trap speed for those mods IMO.

You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

:rolleyes

Eddie916
07-23-2008, 06:46 AM
Not too sure about the race thing, but I was wondering if you knew a guy with a black 95 m3 in the area, on non-e36 rims (possibly e46 sports or even e46 m3s). I saw him over here about a week ago and I thought it was you, but upon checking your sig, I found yours was white.

Dispatch20
07-23-2008, 07:56 AM
Whats the altitude at that track? Thats a horrible trap speed for those mods IMO.

You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

Nope. You wouldn't even get close to that in an E36 with an S52. And I doubt the OP is making anywhere near 250WHP.

Tony Soprano
07-23-2008, 11:02 AM
13.7@103 with a 2.1 60ft.

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 11:08 AM
I'm guessing 13.499 @ 104mph :D

djervin
07-23-2008, 11:14 AM
Get your 60's under control, and I would say 13.50ish. You should be under a 2.0 60' Shallow stage and run right behind someone with big ass slicks.

95s52
07-23-2008, 04:12 PM
you can get a 13.65 out of her at 102
good luck
what car do you think that douche bag will be in this time....im guessing a wrx


Sticking behind your original guess? I'll trap 103 just for you ;) and who is this bag of douche that you speak of?

95s52
07-23-2008, 04:20 PM
Whats the altitude at that track? Thats a horrible trap speed for those mods IMO.

You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

Mr. Schumaker, it's at sea level..

ptldM3
07-23-2008, 04:31 PM
Whats the altitude at that track? Thats a horrible trap speed for those mods IMO.

You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

unless his engine is magical there's no way he's making that much power.

Xiphos
07-23-2008, 04:42 PM
unless his engine is magical there's no way he's making that much power.

You mean M doesnt stand for Magical?

95s52
07-23-2008, 04:44 PM
unless his engine is magical there's no way he's making that much power.

Hoping to be somewhere in 23x's when. No, no factory freak here..

Eddie, you coming out today?

savage217
07-23-2008, 04:48 PM
Your making 240whp max. If you remove everything you mentiuoned including passenger vader Id say you could hit 13.6.

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 04:51 PM
So I'm heading out to the strip tomorrow. No new mods since my last few times out which both pulled the same exact best times. (13.834, both runs where done on fish's azenis) The traps where very different, 99 and 101 mph..

So guess, or better yet, tell me what my car "should" run with my existing mods.

95 m3:

Obd1 s52 (s50 headers/mid-pipe :()
m50 manni
#21.5 injectors
ss exhaust
3.5" HFM
euro intake
Turner software

.

With his mods on a s52 he should be somewhere between 240-250whp i would think. Which track do you plan on going to?

m3j0n
07-23-2008, 04:54 PM
i dont know the amount of gas you were running in the previous runs, but i would say that shaving up to 0.2 seconds would definitely be possible.

95s52
07-23-2008, 05:04 PM
With his mods on a s52 he should be somewhere between 240-250whp i would think. Which track do you plan on going to?

I sure hope so to be somewhere in the upper 240's when the ss replicas and an ss pipe goes it :D And I'm going to Sacramento raceway (sea level)

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 05:07 PM
I sure hope so to be somewhere in the upper 240's when the ss replicas and an ss pipe goes it :D And I'm going to Sacramento raceway (sea level)

I would think at least 245whp. My s50 made about 237whp, but it did have a AA trackpipe 21.5 injs, 3.5 inch hfm, and a nice AA tune for those mods. What are the temps supposed to be over there tomorrow?:cool Good Luck

95s52
07-23-2008, 05:17 PM
I would think at least 245whp. My s50 made about 237whp, but it did have a AA trackpipe 21.5 injs, 3.5 inch hfm, and a nice AA tune for those mods. What are the temps supposed to be over there tomorrow?:cool Good Luck

I need one of 'em "nice tunes." I get stupid rich at WOT over 4.5k.. Oh and I made the thread yesterday, so I'm off to the track in 3 hours. Its going to be 96 out there today :( Hope it cools down through the evening

jworms
07-23-2008, 05:40 PM
13.5@102 with a 2.0 60ft that's my guess.


I would think at least 245whp. My s50 made about 237whp, but it did have a AA trackpipe 21.5 injs, 3.5 inch hfm, and a nice AA tune for those mods. What are the temps supposed to be over there tomorrow?:cool Good Luck

weren't your numbers uncorrected? i'd be surprised if the OP is making close to 240rwhp SAE with the restrictive exhaust system he has currently. i'm thinking more like 225-230rwhp

on second thought, i just checked weather.com for the weather in sacramento today and it's ~90 degrees there. if it's anything like that when you go, i don't see you getting anything better than what you ran last time: 13.8@101

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 05:54 PM
13.5@102 with a 2.0 60ft that's my guess.



weren't your numbers uncorrected? i'd be surprised if the OP is making close to 240rwhp SAE with the restrictive exhaust system he has currently. i'm thinking more like 225-230rwhp

on second thought, i just checked weather.com for the weather in sacramento today and it's ~90 degrees there. if it's anything like that when you go, i don't see you getting anything better than what you ran last time: 13.8@101

yes uncorrected 229whp in 100 degree temps with over 90% hum. the dyno was reading about 8whp less then what it would have shown had it been set to SAE.:D

95s52
07-23-2008, 06:00 PM
13.5@102 with a 2.0 60ft that's my guess.



weren't your numbers uncorrected? i'd be surprised if the OP is making close to 240rwhp SAE with the restrictive exhaust system he has currently. i'm thinking more like 225-230rwhp

on second thought, i just checked weather.com for the weather in sacramento today and it's ~90 degrees there. if it's anything like that when you go, i don't see you getting anything better than what you ran last time: 13.8@101

I dont doubt not having anything more than 230. The s50 pipe is a bitch.. Dave, do you remember the temp the nite you hit the 12's or the time Alex first ran the 13.8?

jworms
07-23-2008, 06:05 PM
yes uncorrected 229whp in 100 degree temps with over 90% hum. the dyno was reading about 8whp less then what it would have shown had it been set to SAE.:D

actually, my mistake. your numbers were corrected, but they were corrected using STD correction, not SAE. SAE generally reads lower than STD.


I dont doubt not having anything more than 230. The s50 pipe is a bitch.. Dave, do you remember the temp the nite you hit the 12's or the time Alex first ran the 13.8?

yeah, hot weather is killer on ET and trap.

95s52
07-23-2008, 06:07 PM
yeah, hot weather is killer on ET and trap.

Even worth coming out today then?

jworms
07-23-2008, 06:11 PM
Even worth coming out today then?

it's up to you, just don't expect record breaking results. if nothing else, it will be good practice.

95s52
07-23-2008, 06:21 PM
I'll go, but only because I started the thread. I'd hate to leave you guys hanging with no results. And it should cool down, plus it looks like I'll be having some tail wind :)

Eddie916
07-23-2008, 06:37 PM
Hoping to be somewhere in 23x's when. No, no factory freak here..

Eddie, you coming out today?

Probably not. I have never done any track thing at all (drag, road, auto-x) so I'd probably suck. I plan on it after some mods though!

Do you know by any chance the car I was talking about earlier?

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 07:00 PM
actually, my mistake. your numbers were corrected, but they were corrected using STD correction, not SAE. SAE generally reads lower than STD.



yeah, hot weather is killer on ET and trap.

look up my dyno sheet, and take alook at the correction factor.

jworms
07-23-2008, 07:05 PM
look up my dyno sheet, and take alook at the correction factor.

you mean this dyno?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10457732#post10457732

1.04 STD correction

SAE would be lower. for example, my numbers using STD correction, instead of SAE, would be 248rwhp and 238 rwtq.

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 07:13 PM
you mean this dyno?

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?p=10457732#post10457732

1.04 STD correction

SAE would be lower. for example, my numbers using STD correction, instead of SAE, would be 248rwhp and 238 rwtq.

yes that would be the 1 the. I was told by afew members that the correction factor of 1.04 is way off (meaning it was reading low). Either way to the OP hit up the track, and get some #'s.

FastAlpine
07-23-2008, 07:22 PM
In my 97 S52 M3 I ran a 13.4@102 numerous times actually. I couldn't seem to break the 13.4 mark.. I hit it about 6 times. I was running with full interior and had chip, intake, track pipe, exhaust, and pulleys.

Volf
07-23-2008, 07:27 PM
You mean M doesnt stand for Magical?

Ha.


///Money pit

Volf
07-23-2008, 07:27 PM
You should be making ~250whp. I know damn right well I would be running 13.4-13.5 @ 103-105 all day.

:rofl: @ your stupidity

95s52
07-23-2008, 07:31 PM
In my 97 S52 M3 I ran a 13.4@102 numerous times actually. I couldn't seem to break the 13.4 mark.. I hit it about 6 times. I was running with full interior and had chip, intake, track pipe, exhaust, and pulleys.

Those must have been some gangster pulleys.. That's a pretty low trap for 13.4, slicks perhaps?

Eddie, I've definitely seen the guy around, but know him personally. You should still come out, its always fun whether you run fast or not.

Anyways, I'm off, wish me luck.

PS today's low is 61, I know that should be around midnight, but if I'm there till 10, it should be in the high 70's

FastAlpine
07-23-2008, 07:37 PM
No slicks.. just really bald tires haha. The car was quick for sure. Hit a 1.9 60' :)

s50swapped
07-23-2008, 08:05 PM
@ your stupidity

My stupidity? Sorry I know first hand what a car with those mods SHOULD be making at sea level. With that power and the right driver the numbers I listed aren't anything to blink an eye at.

Let me guess, you drive an automatic?

s50swapped
07-23-2008, 08:07 PM
With his mods on a s52 he should be somewhere between 240-250whp i would think. Which track do you plan on going to?


I would think at least 245whp. My s50 made about 237whp, but it did have a AA trackpipe 21.5 injs, 3.5 inch hfm, and a nice AA tune for those mods. What are the temps supposed to be over there tomorrow? Good Luck

Someone who knows what they're talking about.

I ran 13.9 @ 101 stock with an S50. The OP should be considerably faster with those mods...

jworms
07-23-2008, 08:44 PM
Someone who knows what they're talking about.

I ran 13.9 @ 101 stock with an S50. The OP should be considerably faster with those mods...

there is no way the OP's car is making 250rwhp setup like it is. also, that is one of the highest trap speeds for a stock E36 M3 i've seen. is your S50 car part of an engine swap? you might have started off with a lighter chassis compared to an M3 which would yield better results.

i do agree with one part you mentioned. i think in ideal conditions and great driving, a car setup like the OP's could see traps in the 103+ range. remember, he's probably only got 15-20rwhp more than stock.

swollix
07-23-2008, 10:20 PM
Hey what do you guys think I could run? I will be hitting the strip in a few weeks.
My car weighs just under 2800 lbs. , and I make 230 whp, and 224 wtq. I may also have a headers back 3" single pipe exhaust with no cats by the time I make it to the strip, so maybe 5 more whp....

GG///M3
07-23-2008, 10:36 PM
there is no way the OP's car is making 250rwhp setup like it is. also, that is one of the highest trap speeds for a stock E36 M3 i've seen. is your S50 car part of an engine swap? you might have started off with a lighter chassis compared to an M3 which would yield better results.

i do agree with one part you mentioned. i think in ideal conditions and great driving, a car setup like the OP's could see traps in the 103+ range. remember, he's probably only got 15-20rwhp more than stock.

I think he should be making at least what your car puts out if not more. A friend of mine about 6-7 yrs ago ran a 13.4 in s52 powered e36 with bolt-ons no cams. Its all in the driver as they say. :cool

jworms
07-23-2008, 10:59 PM
I think he should be making at least what your car puts out if not more. A friend of mine about 6-7 yrs ago ran a 13.4 in s52 powered e36 with bolt-ons no cams. Its all in the driver as they say. :cool
how do you figure he's making the same power as me, let alone more? he has less mods than me on the same engine :confused

and i plan on going into the 12s without cams in my car. in fact, the only thing i plan on adding to meet that goal is drag radials.

95s52
07-24-2008, 03:22 AM
Well, just got home. Yes it is 12:30 in the MORNING! Lets just say that this is the only thing worth mentioning...

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/DSC02188.jpg


http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/DSC02184.jpg

jworms
07-24-2008, 03:47 AM
diff bolt, eh? that sucks dude. i bet it was a sick launch too.

looks like you need to get the AA DSB. it was one of the first mods i added to my car and i haven't broken the diff bolt yet..believe me, i've tried ;).
there's also another support bracket made by some guy on here, but it requires welding i think.

95s52
07-24-2008, 03:51 AM
Good call on the diff bolt. Although I'm 95% sure its not the bold thats supposed to be in there.. Speak more of this AA DSB. (Differential Support Bracket?) Happened on the first run, the weather cooled down to a mid 70 at about 7. I was pissed to say the least.

Also, any suggestions on taking the other part of the bolt out? It's still in the bushing. :(

jworms
07-24-2008, 04:07 AM
Good call on the diff bolt. Although I'm 95% sure its not the bold thats supposed to be in there.. Speak more of this AA DSB. (Differential Support Bracket?) Happened on the first run, the weather cooled down to a mid 70 at about 7. I was pissed to say the least.

Also, any suggestions on taking the other part of the bolt out? It's still in the bushing. :(

AA Diff Support Bracket: http://aatuning.com/viewproduct.aspx?id=Product42
(strangely, i remember paying much less for it)

the other option i mentioned is mike radowski's diff bolt support. i'm not really sure where you get it, but people swear by it. this is the one that requires welding.

as for getting the rest of the bolt out, i'm not really sure what the best method is, but i know i've read a ton of threads on here about people who have had to deal with the same situation. my first thought is a bolt extraction kit. also, it might be a good time to replace the diff bushings while you're at it.

95s52
07-24-2008, 04:49 AM
For now, I'm looking to replace the bolt and get the car back on the road. And will definitely invest in a DSB before my next track session. To be honest, I don't think it even happened today. A couple days ago I was coming from work and noticed a newer 350 fallow me through a couple lights and turns. After we talked at a light it turned out to be an 06'. Long story short we went at it 4 times. We did a 10mph one roll race in which he went on the 1st honk :confused and I immediately stepped on it, but not before he gained half a car and it stayed like that till 90. The rest where digs in which I got him by 1.5 - 2 cars each time. He asked if I was supercharged and claimed bald tires.. Sorry to make this into a kill section, but I suspect thats when the problem originated..

savage217
07-24-2008, 06:27 AM
Go with Mike Rawdoski's DSB. The AA puts more stress on the subframe whereas Mike's mod just basically supports the front diff bolt a heck of a lot more and makes the stress on the diff more balanced. I have one and its awesome. If cars with 800 hp are running the mike rawdowski dsb, you know it is working.

GG///M3
07-24-2008, 07:20 AM
Go with Mike Rawdoski's DSB. The AA puts more stress on the subframe whereas Mike's mod just basically supports the front diff bolt a heck of a lot more and makes the stress on the diff more balanced. I have one and its awesome. If cars with 800 hp are running the mike rawdowski dsb, you know it is working.

If you get Mike R's setup have someone who is really good at welding install it in for ya.:)

95s52
07-24-2008, 01:27 PM
I went through the guy's website and couldn't find it on there. Where do I look for one?

95s52
07-25-2008, 02:04 AM
Where can I buy one??? Link of buy page asap. Got off of work at 8, had the diff out by 9. Need the DSB ASAP!!!!!


Dem 350's be rollin deep

xjeeper
07-25-2008, 02:21 AM
i ran 13.9 @ 101 stock with an s50.

bullshit

I hump my M3
07-25-2008, 02:05 PM
Nope. You wouldn't even get close to that in an E36 with an S52. And I doubt the OP is making anywhere near 250WHP.

You fool of course he is did you see all his mods ?

Dispatch20
07-25-2008, 04:43 PM
You fool of course he is did you see all his mods ?

I can't tell if you're joking. Assuming you aren't, the S50 midpipe will choke the power down a bit, I'd say 225WHP on a typical dynojet could be possible. And one guy was claiming he could trap 103-105 in the OP's configuration, which I think is a little nuts. 13.8's @ 101MPH is a pretty good run for the OP's setup.


And on a side topic, why is nobody talking about tire choice (aside from the Azenis the OP used). I have a hard time believing some of these times on stock, daily driving rubber.

95s52
07-25-2008, 06:04 PM
I'm sure that this Wed. I would have ran at least the 13.8 I did with the azenis. I weighed in at 2960 :)

I pulled the diff and fixed the bolt. Confirmed the fact that it was broken for months now, but wedged itself just enough so that it still somewhat held it in place. This could explain my poor 60ft I've been getting. Went with a straight through option and got a longer more beefier bolt to replace the broken one. Threw the diff back on and about to take it out to see how it is.

Wish me luck. :D

GG///M3
07-25-2008, 06:37 PM
I'm sure that this Wed. I would have ran at least the 13.8 I did with the azenis. I weighed in at 2960 :)

I pulled the diffy and fixed the bolt. Confirmed the fact that it was broken for months now, but wegged itself just enough so that it still somewhat held it in place. This could explain my poor 60ft I've been getting. Went with a straight through option and got a longer more beefer bolt to replace the broken one. Threw the diffy back on and about to take it out to see how it is.

Wish me luck. :D

Kool Good luck bro. Btw are you running a 3.15?

s50swapped
07-25-2008, 07:06 PM
Its not my fault I know how to drive the damn car.
bullshit

Xiphos
07-25-2008, 07:15 PM
Its not my fault I know how to drive the damn car.

Give it up. You aren't convincing anyone nor have you provided any proof of what you claimed you did. You're just an annoyance to everyone.

Prove you can run what you said you can run then we'll believe you.

s50swapped
07-25-2008, 08:00 PM
I am hardly trying to convince anyone. Its been well established over the years that the car is capable of anywhere from 13-8-14.1 @ 99-101 stock.
Give it up. You aren't convincing anyone nor have you provided any proof of what you claimed you did. You're just an annoyance to everyone.

Prove you can run what you said you can run then we'll believe you.

GG///M3
07-25-2008, 08:29 PM
its not my fault i know how to drive the damn car.

+111111111111111111111111111111111111111111

xjeeper
07-26-2008, 01:59 AM
You can drive the STOCK car to a 101 trap speed?????????? STOCK weight, STOCK EVERYTHING? No way. The LTW cars didnt even trap 101.

95s52
07-26-2008, 04:02 AM
You can drive the STOCK car to a 101 trap speed?????????? STOCK weight, STOCK EVERYTHING? No way. The LTW cars didnt even trap 101.

Probably a G-tech estimate. Nice rims btw..

Drove the car around and it feels nice. Better than it used to be. No more of that loud "thump" sound when letting go off throtle over 4k. Tires are still at 25psi from track, so Ill try a to lanch the thing when I get off in the morning.

GG///M3
07-26-2008, 08:54 AM
Kool Good luck bro. Btw are you running a 3.15?

+

95s52
07-26-2008, 09:12 AM
+

Si, 3.15 :(. I know where I can get a bunch on 3.91's for pennies on the dollar. I almost went out and grabbed one while mine was out.

GG///M3
07-26-2008, 09:16 AM
Si, 3.15 :(. I know where I can get a bunch on 3.91's for pennies on the dollar. I almost went out and grabbed one while mine was out.

3.91 without a 6speed kind of sucks. You would also lose time shifting with it.3.64 ftw:)

95s52
07-26-2008, 09:57 AM
3.91 without a 6speed kind of sucks. You would also lose time shifting with it.3.64 ftw:)


Agree, one on ebay right now at $1300 :(

GG///M3
07-27-2008, 08:19 AM
http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13686966&postcount=27

Mike R's Diff bolt FTW.:)

95s52
07-27-2008, 08:49 PM
Mike R's Diff bolt FTW.:)

I also went with a straight through design. I drilled out the existing thread and made the hole wide for a beefier bolt that goes straight through and gets torqued down with a nut on the other side. I'm sure it will hold..

gsxrpeter
07-29-2008, 06:08 PM
So I'm heading out to the strip tomorrow. No new mods since my last few times out which both pulled the same exact best times. (13.834, both runs where done on fish's azenis) The traps where very different, 99 and 101 mph..

So guess, or better yet, tell me what my car "should" run with my existing mods.

95 m3:

Obd1 s52 (s50 headers/mid-pipe :()
m50 manni
#21.5 injectors
ss exhaust
3.5" HFM
euro intake
Turner software

I will be taking off spare/jack, rear seats and possibly the pass vader. Fuel will be at 2 gal even. I will also pull the left headlight for the "ram" intake action:buttrock I will make sure to weight the car at the scales there.

I don't know if it makes a difference, but I mounted 245's in the rear on my 7.5'' rims. Much better traction, but I get a slight rub on tight turns.


I will be mainly focusing on my 60 foot. The 13.8 runs where done with a 2.3 and a 2.2 :rolleyes. So I'm looking to be consistent in the 2.1's and possibly hit a few 2.0's ;)

Any criticism and advice will be greatly appreciated.
---------------------------------




Your rubbing with 245's somethings wrong becuase i'm running 255 and i have no rub and my car is lowerd with billies

s50swapped
07-29-2008, 11:46 PM
hey nubz not all tires are same width, rims have different offsets, and suspension all can play a significant role in what size tires can be fit in a e36 wheel well...im sorry

Seriously? Thats such a hard concept to understand!

:stickoutt

95s52
07-30-2008, 03:31 AM
hey nubz not all tires are same width, rims have different offsets, and suspension all can play a significant role in what size tires can be fit in a e36 wheel well...im sorry

Made the comment in og post fully understanding the rubbing is due to my stock springs (which are FTL by the way). Anyone got a pair of H&R race springs that I can bum off of?

95s52
08-28-2009, 05:01 PM
BUMP.

I finally got out to the track. Other than my previous mods I added the SS replica headers. I also took off some weigt and weighed in at 2880.

Guess my time/trap for 10 internet points!!

racer m
08-28-2009, 05:27 PM
13.5x @ 105 mph

95s52
08-28-2009, 05:29 PM
13.5x @ 105 mph

Warmish

racer m
08-28-2009, 05:37 PM
not that it matters, but brand of tires where you using?

mtechnica
08-28-2009, 06:26 PM
13.6 @ 103

E30lolz
08-28-2009, 07:19 PM
thats only 140 lbs heavier than me....i hope you went fast

95s52
08-28-2009, 07:23 PM
thats only 140 lbs heavier than me....i hope you went fast

How fast are we talkin? :shifty

Edit: I used ContiPro contacts in 235/45/17. All seasons are FTL :(

E30lolz
08-28-2009, 07:26 PM
look at my sig and figure something out

jworms
08-28-2009, 07:28 PM
dude! out with it! you got me way too excited about these results from your message!

95s52
08-28-2009, 07:49 PM
Muahahahahaha

BMWFanatic
08-28-2009, 07:52 PM
wild guesss..

13.4x at 104?

2880lbs?

what are all your ltw mods?

whitecord
08-28-2009, 08:42 PM
yea 2880? is the car gutted?

Hova
08-28-2009, 09:03 PM
yea 2880? is the car gutted?

no way!


im at 2950 with a quarter of a tank of gas.


i have SS-long tube headers, with a 3" straight back, and only 1 muffler

trunk is COMPLETELY stripped, no spare, no carpet, sound deadening removed, tar removed, as are the rear speakers, no jack, literally nothing but the battery.



OBD2 wise: the stock headers, midpipe, and exhaust, with the hangers, and bolts weigh in at exactly 112lbs. My setup is maybe 30-40lbs.


I also have a aftermarket odyssey battery, i believe it weighs something like 25lbs, MUCH lighter than the stock HEAVY ASS OEM battery.


150-200lbs is pretty easy to take out of these cars and still make it VERY much daily drivable.






if i threw in a LTW flywheel, and maybe a CF hood i would be in the 2800`s pretty easily. With some aftermarket seats, i could even be creeping into the 2700`s with an almost stock looking car!

jworms
08-28-2009, 09:51 PM
no way!


im at 2950 with a quarter of a tank of gas.


i have SS-long tube headers, with a 3" straight back, and only 1 muffler

trunk is COMPLETELY stripped, no spare, no carpet, sound deadening removed, tar removed, as are the rear speakers, no jack, literally nothing but the battery.



OBD2 wise: the stock headers, midpipe, and exhaust, with the hangers, and bolts weigh in at exactly 112lbs. My setup is maybe 30-40lbs.


I also have a aftermarket odyssey battery, i believe it weighs something like 25lbs, MUCH lighter than the stock HEAVY ASS OEM battery.


150-200lbs is pretty easy to take out of these cars and still make it VERY much daily drivable.






if i threw in a LTW flywheel, and maybe a CF hood i would be in the 2800`s pretty easily. With some aftermarket seats, i could even be creeping into the 2700`s with an almost stock looking car!

last time i weighed my car it was 2880lbs. i haven't weighed it since i replaced my heavy stock wheels with LTW5 ones, but i'd guess it's probably close to 2850 now. this is with a 1/4 tank of gas or less.

so it wouldn't surprise me if the OP's car was that light.

95s52
08-29-2009, 03:56 AM
Sorry for taking so long to post it.

I got a 13.3 at 106

mtechnica
08-29-2009, 05:26 AM
nice

pbonsalb
08-29-2009, 08:36 AM
Sorry for taking so long to post it.

I got a 13.3 at 106

That is really fast for a lightly modded car and shows the benefits of weight reduction. Instead of adding 25-30% hp, you added half that in hp and dropped half that percentage in weight to get the same result.

ButtDyno
08-29-2009, 08:53 AM
Sorry for taking so long to post it.

I got a 13.3 at 106
That's with the mods in the first post, right? What weight reduction?

Where are you launching?

DavidsM3
08-29-2009, 10:02 AM
Sorry for taking so long to post it.

I got a 13.3 at 106

:eek: Mods?

jworms
08-29-2009, 11:58 AM
Sorry for taking so long to post it.

I got a 13.3 at 106

awesome job man! i knew it could [would] be done!

what did you run in the 1/8th? post that timeslip!

95s52
08-29-2009, 01:38 PM
Thanks guys.

The slip reads the following:


Dail in: 13.45
Reaction: 1.33
I1 2. 031
I2 000
I3 8.630
MPH(I3) 83.414
I4 11.178

E.T. 13.346
MPH 106.881 <---- Can someone say 107's next time out??


Mods include:

OBDI s52
m50 manifold
3.5" euro intake box
3.5" 540 hfm
24lb injectors*
SS replica headers
SS exhaust


Weight reduction include:

No spare/jack/trunk carpet
No rear seats/bench
No pass Vader (before someone lights their torch, 1 Vader>2 race seats)
No pass door panel (was off for reasons other than saving weight. Track day came around and I didn't bother putting it on.)
Sunroof delete (almost not worth it if you're not getting the CF cover :()


Car weighed in at 2880 at the track.

With my trap, I am a set of radials away from 12.8's

jworms
08-29-2009, 02:11 PM
Thanks guys.

The slip reads the following:


Dail in: 13.45
Reaction: 1.33
I1 2. 031
I2 000
I3 8.630
MPH(I3) 83.414
I4 11.178

E.T. 13.346
MPH 106.881 <---- Can someone say 107's next time out??


Mods include:

OBDI s52
m50 manifold
3.5" euro intake box
3.5" 540 hfm
24lb injectors*
SS replica headers
SS exhaust


Weight reduction include:

No spare/jack/trunk carpet
No rear seats/bench
No pass Vader (before someone lights their torch, 1 Vader>2 race seats)
No pass door panel (was off for reasons other than saving weight. Track day came around and I didn't bother putting it on.)
Sunroof delete (almost not worth it if you're not getting the CF cover :()


Car weighed in at 2880 at the track.

With my trap, I am a set of radials away 12.8's
hell yeah man! :alright

get some DRs on that thing and join that exclusive N/A 12s club! :buttrock

i can't wait until i get my new 3.46 diff installed and hit the strip :D

95s52
08-29-2009, 02:25 PM
hell yeah man! :alright

get some DRs on that thing and join that exclusive N/A 12s club! :buttrock

i can't wait until i get my new 3.46 diff installed and hit the strip :D

Thanks, that club will not be so exclusive after you and I get in there hopefully by the end of this year :D:D:D. I'm hurting for a shorter diff as my 3.15 has me taking short naps between shifts. $600 for Dan's unit is a little pricey for me right now. I'm doing a little collective research to see which bmw's are compatible as I am not afraid to do the internals swap myself..

My buddy was also out there with me last Wednesday in a s50 325is. His diff bolt went his 3rd run in, but not before he managed a 13.8 @ 102

racer m
08-29-2009, 04:40 PM
Thanks guys.

The slip reads the following:


Dail in: 13.45
Reaction: 1.33
I1 2. 031
I2 000
I3 8.630
MPH(I3) 83.414
I4 11.178

E.T. 13.346
MPH 106.881 <---- Can someone say 107's next time out??





Car weighed in at 2880 at the track.

With my trap, I am a set of radials away 12.8's
Nice pulls. Just out of curiosity, what where tire pressures?


hell yeah man! :alright

get some DRs on that thing and join that exclusive N/A 12s club! :buttrock

i can't wait until i get my new 3.46 diff installed and hit the strip :D
Is there only 5 members in that exclusive club?

God I need to back out the track.

jworms
08-29-2009, 06:12 PM
Is there only 5 members in that exclusive club?

God I need to back out the track.

i haven't checked recently, but 5 almost seems like too many. either way, i have a feeling we're going to be seeing a surge in membership to that club soon ;)

racer m
08-29-2009, 07:18 PM
I know who the 3 members are(swollix, fish4, and you) but there is one more member whose name excludes me.

95s52
08-29-2009, 07:57 PM
I know who the 3 members are(swollix, fish4, and you) but there is one more member whose name excludes me.

Worms is in 12's? I thought you never ran a 1/4 mile? Whats swollix's time? What does he put down? Whats his car weigh?

I played with the tire pressures staring at 44 psi and eventually bringing them down to an even 20.

I am excited that I'm 12's territory with my unopened motor, stock clutch/flywheel, 3.15 rear and the s50 mid-section and a Turner tune. The lack of traction into 2nd is whats holding me back from 12's. Any recommendations on a 16" wheel and a tall drag radial??

jworms
08-29-2009, 09:27 PM
I know who the 3 members are(swollix, fish4, and you) but there is one more member whose name excludes me.
i'm not in the 12s...yet ;)

i didn't think swollix hit 12s yet either, but i could be wrong.



Worms is in 12's? I though you never ran a 1/4 mile? Whats swollix's time? What does he put down? Whats his car weigh?

I played with the tire pressures staring at 44 psi and eventually bringing them down to an even 20.

I am excited that I'm 12's territory with my unopened motor, stock clutch/flywheel, 3.15 rear and the s50 mid-section and a Turner tune. The lack of traction into 2nd is whats holding me back from 12's. Any recommendations on a 16" wheel and a tall drag radial??

i'm jealous that you'll do it with less mods than me. i hate that i have to replace my diff, but i'm not going to get another 3.23 just to prove a point. at least you are proving it for all of us :)

...where are all the nay-sayers now?! :devillook

racer m
08-29-2009, 11:01 PM
Oops, I may have spoken to soon;). I am wondering:confused where the list for NA E36's went .

95s52
08-30-2009, 01:08 AM
...where are all the nay-sayers now?! :devillook I didn't say it, but we're thinking the same thing..



As far as mods go, I was pretty stocked to see the trap myself. It was very bittersweet to say the least. I went to the 1/4 two Wednesdays back to back and the first time out I went all the way in bracket and took home a cheesy trophy:redspot I didn't do any bragging to my friends, but the few guys that did see me out there told a bunch of people. The second time around there were about 15 people out there supporting me ,and my friend who broke his diff bolt, as I made a few practice runs before I wrote my dial in for the day. I was running consistent 13.6's trapping at 105 due to the severe lack of traction. Right before the dial ins I asked a buddy what I should dial in at? (BTW I hit a 13.43 @ 105.9mph last week and still had the 13.35 on the windshield from that outing, so I knew my car was at least that fast with current traction.) A friend of mine said, "put a 13.5, you are not running fast today."

I knew he was right, but I gave him a ":confused" anyways and left the 13.35 from last week. I was up against a lightly modded s2000 my first bracket and his dial in was 14.9:help I've seen him run a few times before and he was pretty consistent with his 15.0-15.1. There was a little trash talk going on before the race and everyone made a comment in our group about how slow that s2000 was. To my spectators he looked like a freebie advancement to the next round as he was running his car at a second off the time he should be running, exposing him as a novice on the track, but in bracket racing the fact that he was bad consecutively made him good. I was nervous. After winning the event the week before, I didn't want to lose on the 1st race.

As we lined up, he had about 1.5 secs out the gate on me, and as my tree was nearing the green I was anxious to be let at him. Dropping my all seasons down to flat 20psi after my previous run, I knew that I have the tools to put this car through the fastest 60' of its 15 year life. It was only the matter of being patient with the throttle. Holding the rpm's at a steady 3800 I was thinking about places online where I could get me a new clutch. The last yellow comes on and I slowly come off the clutch and I dig deeper into the throttle. I get next to no traction loss. I hook up and go about my way minding my own business wounding the gear out. At this point I assume it’s safe to stab it, but my all seasons thought otherwise. I go WOT at about 5.8k and immediately I begin to lose traction. I granny into 2nd thinking the nightmare is behind me and that I will find traction there, but those 235's where not having it. After the run my friends complimented me on my counter steering and cracked at me for thinking it was a drift competition. Never-the-less, I partly let go off the throttle to let my tires fall back to the actual speed I was going and get back on it. Topping 2nd out I made some good ground and at the top of 3rd I turned right to see the face of my pray. It was an Asian guy with spiky hair wearing okleys:cool. I was sporting an Atri. Long story short he pulls off a 14.911 only .011 away from what he said he’ll do. I end up beating my dial in by .004; thus, getting eliminated from the brackets.

^^^ Crap I didn't mean to write a book up there...



Oops, I may have spoken to soon;). I am wondering:confused where the list for NA E36's went .

The list is gone because people didn't appreciate an effort that was put forth to educate the community.

creeves328
08-30-2009, 02:34 AM
...where are all the nay-sayers now?! :devillook

Hehe.. Check out how many are "License Revoked" in this thread, page 3 is funny.

OP --- Nice job!!

Analog
08-30-2009, 03:36 AM
Damn, that is a quick car!

Good job!

racer m
08-30-2009, 04:27 AM
The list is gone because people didn't appreciate an effort that was put forth to educate the community.
O.k. that makes sense, but I still which it was there.
Does anyone recall the fastest NA E36 quarter mile times?

creeves328
08-30-2009, 05:00 AM
O.k. that makes sense, but I still which it was there.
Does anyone recall the fastest NA E36 quarter mile times?

Yes sir, thats Dave's ultra-light M3 (fishforlife). He ran a 12.2 @ 112mph, and is looking to improve in the near future.

jworms
08-30-2009, 05:13 AM
O.k. that makes sense, but I still which it was there.
Does anyone recall the fastest NA E36 quarter mile times?

i believe fishforlife holds that record (US spec) with his 12.2@112mph (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468491). i don't think anyone will beat that, other than himself, because not many are willing to go through what he has to extract that kind of performance from their car

...then again, with trap speeds of basic bolt-on E36 M3s heading north of 106mph, it will be interesting to see what a full bolt-on (cams, gearing, custom tune, other misc mods) E36 M3 is capable of. this really is breaking new ground with these [15+ year old] cars and i truly believe that there is much more coming :)

to clarify, that's no diss to fish's car! he is a trailblazer in this community and has set the bar very high. i think he still has quite a bit of performance left on the table with his car and he's definitely aware of it. we haven't seen the last of him :evil2


Hehe.. Check out how many are "License Revoked" in this thread, page 3 is funny.

OP --- Nice job!!

lol. just read through the thread again. good stuff. i can't tell you how fun it's going to be to make a thread of my own on the same topic.

95s52
08-30-2009, 01:43 PM
lol. just read through the thread again. good stuff. i can't tell you how fun it's going to be to make a thread of my own on the same topic.

Yeah, I only wish that some of the members from page 3 were still around :D

Dispatch20
08-30-2009, 02:37 PM
Yeah, I only wish that some of the members from page 3 were still around :D

I had a few posts in this thread last year. I suspect that anybody, including myself, that doubted you didn't take into consideration you were removing 200-300 lbs of weight from the car.

I really wish I had weighed my car last year. I had a 13.70@102 with a 2.0 60'. I would guess I'm at 3000lb even.

In any case, great times! Congrats! It takes some good driving to get times like that.

95s52
08-30-2009, 04:09 PM
I had a few posts in this thread last year. I suspect that anybody, including myself, that doubted you didn't take into consideration you were removing 200-300 lbs of weight from the car.

I really wish I had weighed my car last year. I had a 13.70@102 with a 2.0 60'. I would guess I'm at 3000lb even.

In any case, great times! Congrats! It takes some good driving to get times like that.





I will be taking off spare/jack, rear seats and possibly the pass vader. Fuel will be at 2 gal even. I will also pull the left headlight for the "ram" intake action:buttrock I will make sure to weight the car at the scales there.



I said I'll do it in the very fist post.

Never-the-less, I appreciate the your comments.

mtechnica
08-30-2009, 05:57 PM
They key here is removing as much weight as one is comfortable with, throwing on bolt-ons, and knowing how to drag race. Should be interesting to see what people come up with ;)

racer m
08-30-2009, 06:49 PM
i believe fishforlife holds that record (US spec) with his 12.2@112mph (http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468491). i don't think anyone will beat that, other than himself, because not many are willing to go through what he has to extract that kind of performance from their car

...then again, with trap speeds of basic bolt-on E36 M3s heading north of 106mph, it will be interesting to see what a full bolt-on (cams, gearing, custom tune, other misc mods) E36 M3 is capable of. this really is breaking new ground with these [15+ year old] cars and i truly believe that there is much more coming :)

to clarify, that's no diss to fish's car! he is a trailblazer in this community and has set the bar very high. i think he still has quite a bit of performance left on the table with his car and he's definitely aware of it. we haven't seen the last of him :evil2



lol. just read through the thread again. good stuff. i can't tell you how fun it's going to be to make a thread of my own on the same topic.
I seriously need to make a trip to the track. I am very anxious to see what my shricks did/ 3.91 lsd(40% lock up).

Yeah, I only wish that some of the members from page 3 were still around :D
I am with you on that.

95s52
09-02-2009, 02:54 AM
Hey guys, I didnt want to make another thread, so Ill just post in here. I am looking for some wheel/tire ideas. Specifiaclly 16's, with a wide drag radial. I know what I can fit a 15 on the rear, but not without some work. Has anyone ever got a get of 7.5"-8" 15's on the rear? Also, any tire recommendations? If I go with the 16", I am looking for something thats 16/55 225-255. I did a quick search and couldnt find any good tires that came that tall/wide in a 16"..

stanksbeamen
09-20-2009, 08:14 PM
Hey guys, I didnt want to make another thread, so Ill just post in here. I am looking for some wheel/tire ideas. Specifiaclly 16's, with a wide drag radial. I know what I can fit a 15 on the rear, but not without some work. Has anyone ever got a get of 7.5"-8" 15's on the rear? Also, any tire recommendations? If I go with the 16", I am looking for something thats 16/55 225-255. I did a quick search and couldnt find any good tires that came that tall/wide in a 16"..

If I were you, I'd go with these. 255/50/16 MT ET streets on a 16x7 328 rim. I've been looking for a good set of 16x7 or 8 to mount something like these on my car.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MTT-3793R/

95s52
09-22-2009, 02:11 AM
If I were you, I'd go with these. 255/50/16 MT ET streets on a 16x7 328 rim. I've been looking for a good set of 16x7 or 8 to mount something like these on my car.
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MTT-3793R/


Thanks for your input. I am also looking at 15"+slicks as some of the members were able to fit 15" basketweaves on the rear of out cars. I think that that would be the optimal set up because using a smaller rim will give me the opportunity to choose between getting a taller slick or ending up with a smaller diameter tire which will help me run through gears faster giving me the short geared diff effect.

Now if someone would contribute with the information of what exactly takes to fit a 15" on the rear I would be in business.

dizzythree
09-22-2009, 02:46 AM
Now if someone would contribute with the information of what exactly takes to fit a 15" on the rear I would be in business.

Calipers must be shaved. :(

95s52
09-22-2009, 03:18 PM
Calipers must be shaved. :(

I don't mind doing a little trimming down there. :)













:shifty

95s52
02-18-2010, 01:28 AM
Figured I'd bump this thread with today's outing. Had a total of 4 runs. NONE OF WHICH was a clean pass. :(

Best run (first run) right lane.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/slip.jpg


All at the cost of a clutch. Looks like this weekend will be spent installing my uuc set up. I wish I had a 12sec pass before it went in..

Best trap of the day was a 106.194 on slicks. Car weighed it at 2865 without me with 1/3 tank fuel.

KnudsonsM3
02-18-2010, 02:16 AM
what weight reduction do you have?

and you runnin cams?

racer m
02-18-2010, 02:54 AM
I am suppose to go tomorrow(later today) with a few friends hopefully a someone will record a few off my passes...

95s52
02-18-2010, 03:00 AM
what weight reduction do you have?

and you runnin cams?

No cams. As far as weight reduction, Im running a rear "m3" badge delete. :shifty

langley
02-18-2010, 07:24 AM
No cams. As far as weight reduction, Im running a rear "m3" badge delete. :shifty
How do you offset the loss of power after removing your M3 badge?

95s52
02-18-2010, 02:33 PM
How do you offset the loss of power after removing your M3 badge?

By advertising my mods via sticker on the panels of my car. +5hp/each.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/100_0707.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/100_0714.jpg

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/100_0715.jpg

KnudsonsM3
02-18-2010, 05:10 PM
No cams. As far as weight reduction, Im running a rear "m3" badge delete. :shifty

so youre car weighed 2880 stock huh?

RomoGuy
02-18-2010, 06:46 PM
nice times... cool pics too

95s52
02-19-2010, 12:17 PM
so youre car weighed 2880 stock huh?

dem badges be heavy yo.


nice times... cool pics too


thanks

KnudsonsM3
02-19-2010, 01:01 PM
haha


but i wanna know! PM me with what joo removed?

95s52
03-29-2010, 03:21 AM
Bumping this thread. Going out this Wednesday with a new clutch and hopefully get a couple runs in with my street tires. A lot of my friends are going through a 350z trend and there should be 4-6 Z's out there. One that's an 07. Another guy just picked up an 05 CLK 55 AMG and will also be taking it out. A friend with a built Integra will come out. I will make further strides to reach 12's. Hopefully nothing breaks..

wheresmym3
03-30-2010, 02:37 PM
Good luck. Isn't it supposed to be raining not to piss on your day or anything. I think when I get back from Kona I'm going to hit the track. I don't think my clutch will make it but that's what credit cards are for. I have been putting it off. I also need to get my diff bushings freshened up as they are ripped and get the mike r support welded in. If the weather is good next week I will drop my rear and tidy it all up. Anyone feel like lending me a hand for food and beer? I want to get a timeslip to compare to after the tune and injectors.

95s52
03-30-2010, 05:53 PM
Dave, sadly I checked the weather after I posted that.. I have class Wednesday evenings and wanted to use this opportunity to go because I have spring break. (I'm assuming you do too seeing how you're in Hawaii in the middle of the semester.) Guess its not in the cards.. We just had pea sized hail 5 mins ago! I would love to lend you a hand. I have class in your area on Tues/Thurs. Anytime before 5 on those days.

hpye36e30m3
03-31-2010, 12:33 AM
I heard times at sac are a little faster than the point.True ? Also what tires you running. I'm looking for for wrinkle side for 16 inch or 17 inch. Have a e30 m3 s52 with sunbelts and ran a 13.2 at the point on hankook rs-2 with track set up. Lookin for solid 12's out of the car, but cant find the grip. Don't want to mess around with radials.

BMWFanatic
03-31-2010, 05:08 AM
Good luck. Isn't it supposed to be raining not to piss on your day or anything. I think when I get back from Kona I'm going to hit the track. I don't think my clutch will make it but that's what credit cards are for. I have been putting it off. I also need to get my diff bushings freshened up as they are ripped and get the mike r support welded in. If the weather is good next week I will drop my rear and tidy it all up. Anyone feel like lending me a hand for food and beer? I want to get a timeslip to compare to after the tune and injectors.

what tune/injectors do you have now?


Dave, sadly I checked the weather after I posted that.. I have class Wednesday evenings and wanted to use this opportunity to go because I have spring break. (I'm assuming you do too seeing how you're in Hawaii in the middle of the semester.) Guess its not in the cards.. We just had pea sized hail 5 mins ago! I would love to lend you a hand. I have class in your area on Tues/Thurs. Anytime before 5 on those days.

sad to hear the weather is going to suck Mark, id love to see what you would do on street tires. btw, did you end up doing the FDM? i just ordered mine:)

95s52
03-31-2010, 05:13 AM
sad to hear the weather is going to suck Mark, id love to see what you would do on street tires. btw, did you end up doing the FDM? i just ordered mine:)

Yes, I rid of the clutch fan. I put in a spal fan and with the help of some members made brackets to mount it on the radiator and offset it from the water pump nut.

I still have my fingers crossed for tomorrows weather turning out.

racer m
03-31-2010, 05:18 AM
Best of luck:alright

wheresmym3
03-31-2010, 05:18 AM
I have the stock 17.5# with conforti tune but am going to pick up the newer style Bosch 24# (EV6) injectors. I found a pretty cheap source and am looking at a trm tune. What pisses me off about trm though is how they nickle and dime you. At tms it's $250 for the s50 24# euro hfm tune. At trm it's extra for the 3.5"hfm and extra for the injector option. He has good reviews though so I might try it out over the tms tune.

For my rear end I already bought the subframe bushings and front diff bushings along with mike r bracket. I need the rear diff bushings and might as well do balljoints if I drop the rear end. It all adds up :(

BTW you in Kailua on the kona coast or on Oahu? I am in Kona right now but used to live in Kailua on Oahu.

Lot of late nighters in here?? Damn I hate typing this all out my phone.

95s52
03-31-2010, 05:29 AM
I heard times at sac are a little faster than the point.True ? Also what tires you running. I'm looking for for wrinkle side for 16 inch or 17 inch. Have a e30 m3 s52 with sunbelts and ran a 13.2 at the point on hankook rs-2 with track set up. Lookin for solid 12's out of the car, but cant find the grip. Don't want to mess around with radials.

Thats what the rumor is. I hear that point is not as well prepped. (although sometimes you come out to sacraceway and everyone is all over the place in the 60')

These are the tires I run on the 1/4
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/100_0694.jpg

My street 245/40 Michelin Pilot that I want to try a few runs on before swapping to slicks
http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/CIMG1477.jpg

And I picked up these bad boys today :D

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/2010-03-30221747.jpg

What was your trap speed with your 13.2 run? Any idea on how much power you are making?


Best of luck:alright
TY, but after double checking with the forecast, can I have a rain-check on that?

hpye36e30m3
03-31-2010, 02:01 PM
Here are the numbers from the run. No dyno yet but a solid 300 is the guess.Head has also been messaged over a bit. I added a tree house 3.5 inch throttle body. Dont buy it, it is a rip off. Its just a throttle body off old 5 series v8 thats cable operated and some adapter plates and a s14 throttle cable. This run was with 235/40 17 hankook rs'2 and 3.25 lsd with new friction plates installed.

60 foot 2.155
330 5.74
1/8 8.667
mph at 1/8 85.11
1000 11.171
1/4 13.30 at at 105.94 mph

95s52
03-31-2010, 04:15 PM
Here are the numbers from the run. No dyno yet but a solid 300 is the guess.Head has also been messaged over a bit. I added a tree house 3.5 inch throttle body. Dont buy it, it is a rip off. Its just a throttle body off old 5 series v8 thats cable operated and some adapter plates and a s14 throttle cable. This run was with 235/40 17 hankook rs'2 and 3.25 lsd with new friction plates installed.

60 foot 2.155
330 5.74
1/8 8.667
mph at 1/8 85.11
1000 11.171
1/4 13.30 at at 105.94 mph

Are we talking 300 crank? What is your exhaust system like? How much does your car weigh? If you aren't doing anything today, come out to the track, it looks like the weather will hold out.

BMWFanatic
03-31-2010, 04:44 PM
I have the stock 17.5# with conforti tune but am going to pick up the newer style Bosch 24# (EV6) injectors. I found a pretty cheap source and am looking at a trm tune. What pisses me off about trm though is how they nickle and dime you. At tms it's $250 for the s50 24# euro hfm tune. At trm it's extra for the 3.5"hfm and extra for the injector option. He has good reviews though so I might try it out over the tms tune.

For my rear end I already bought the subframe bushings and front diff bushings along with mike r bracket. I need the rear diff bushings and might as well do balljoints if I drop the rear end. It all adds up :(

BTW you in Kailua on the kona coast or on Oahu? I am in Kona right now but used to live in Kailua on Oahu.

Lot of late nighters in here?? Damn I hate typing this all out my phone.

The TRM chip feels better over the conforti especially in the lower gears. I havent had a chance to test it out in all of 4th and 5th yet but she boogies. Im gonna race a 350z Hr from a 40mph highway roll soon. thatll be the test since they seem to run low 13's @103-107mph...

OT: As for home I used to live in Kailua, Oahu near Aikahi/MCBH. what part of kailua did you live in?


Hey Mark is it windy over there?? 13.1 here you come!

ak5
03-31-2010, 05:16 PM
need to strip my car before we go :(

95s52
03-31-2010, 05:25 PM
need to strip my car before we go :(

Who dis?

ak5
03-31-2010, 05:27 PM
Who dis?
¿qué?

hpye36e30m3
03-31-2010, 11:10 PM
300 crank of course. The exhaust is long tube header into a single 3 inch (no cat) with a supper trap muffler with full 24 disc installed. Car is completely gutted but the front seats. having clutch issues right now. The Great UUC flywheel decided to back out the flywheel bolts and create an oil leak which has ruined our nice 6 puck. UUC quotes anything over 7k rpm the flywheel will back off as the motor is not balanced. Used there thread locker and torque sequence. This product should have an * for a warning. For high performance BMW's but not to Much !

ak5
04-01-2010, 11:17 AM
Interesting day yesterday.. besides the fact that I was only able to get 3 runs due to weather, the turnout was interesting. I was able to achieve a time of 13.45@104.88. Running 23x8.5x15 slicks and some weigh reduction such as seats and boom box. Cant wait to get tuned. According to a dynojet, Im at 203whp and something like 146 tq.

wheresmym3
04-01-2010, 07:11 PM
The TRM chip feels better over the conforti especially in the lower gears. I havent had a chance to test it out in all of 4th and 5th yet but she boogies. Im gonna race a 350z Hr from a 40mph highway roll soon. thatll be the test since they seem to run low 13's @103-107mph...

OT: As for home I used to live in Kailua, Oahu near Aikahi/MCBH. what part of kailua did you live in?


Hey Mark is it windy over there?? 13.1 here you come!
Thanks for the info. Regarding Kailua, I lived right by the back gate to MCBH. I was stationed there a few years ago.

95s52
04-01-2010, 08:11 PM
No new times for me. Made a total of 6 passes yesterday and the only one worth mentioning is a 13.3 at 106 on street tires.. 4 runs with street tires and 2 on slicks. The slicks were done for as I mentioned after my last outing on them. I couldn't get anything better than a 2.2 60' with them. On the 3rd run with them on I lit em and during the burnout I heard a loud pop and it felt as if the rear left jumped off the ground..

This is what happened.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/CIMG1639.jpg

Anyone know if Toyo RA1's any good for straight line?

Alex in the Integra did really well. The VTECH was popping to say the least. I think hes good for 12's with a tune.

I don't know the next time I will get to go out. Most likely sometime in the late summer/early fall.

jworms
04-01-2010, 08:28 PM
No new times for me. Made a total of 6 passes yesterday and the only one worth mentioning is a 13.3 at 106 on street tires.. 4 runs with street tires and 2 on slicks. The slicks were done for as I mentioned after my last outing on them. I couldn't get anything better than a 2.2 60' with them. On the 3rd run with them on I lit em and during the burnout I heard a loud pop and it felt as if the rear left jumped off the ground..

This is what happened.

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/kk189/markbardash160/CIMG1639.jpg

Anyone know if Toyo RA1's any good for straight line?

Alex in the Integra did really well. The VTECH was popping to say the least. I think hes good for 12's with a tune.

I don't know the next time I will get to go out. Most likely sometime in the late summer/early fall.

106 trap is still pretty nice man! sucks about the tires. i have experience with RA1s and they aren't too bad. definitely not ideal for drag racing with their stiff sidewalls meant for turns, but they get the job done. i would say they are comparable to a really good street tire, maybe even slightly better depending on tread depth (shaved or not).

95s52
04-01-2010, 08:39 PM
300 crank of course. The exhaust is long tube header into a single 3 inch (no cat) with a supper trap muffler with full 24 disc installed. Car is completely gutted but the front seats. having clutch issues right now. The Great UUC flywheel decided to back out the flywheel bolts and create an oil leak which has ruined our nice 6 puck. UUC quotes anything over 7k rpm the flywheel will back off as the motor is not balanced. Used there thread locker and torque sequence. This product should have an * for a warning. For high performance BMW's but not to Much !

Sucks about your flywheels quarrels. I'm sure you will get them squared away. Any pictures of your car? Are you from the Sacramento area?


Mark

BMWFanatic
04-01-2010, 09:40 PM
Interesting day yesterday.. besides the fact that I was only able to get 3 runs due to weather, the turnout was interesting. I was able to achieve a time of 13.45@104.88. Running 23x8.5x15 slicks and some weigh reduction such as seats and boom box. Cant wait to get tuned. According to a dynojet, Im at 203whp and something like 146 tq.

damn that one quick dc2 for a B series motor! whats was the race weight at yesterday?



Thanks for the info. Regarding Kailua, I lived right by the back gate to MCBH. I was stationed there a few years ago.

you gotta be kidding me! Ive never seen your car around! how many years is a few years ago? My friends house had all those vw's(mk3's mostly) on the street out of the back gate on the right side before the shopping center. I used to hang out there all the time.



No new times for me. Made a total of 6 passes yesterday and the only one worth mentioning is a 13.3 at 106 on street tires.. 4 runs with street tires and 2 on slicks. The slicks were done for as I mentioned after my last outing on them. I couldn't get anything better than a 2.2 60' with them. On the 3rd run with them on I lit em and during the burnout I heard a loud pop and it felt as if the rear left jumped off the ground..


Anyone know if Toyo RA1's any good for straight line?

Alex in the Integra did really well. The VTECH was popping to say the least. I think hes good for 12's with a tune.

I don't know the next time I will get to go out. Most likely sometime in the late summer/early fall.

that sucks Mark! but those used slicks lasted pretty good for what there were! btw, your car moves even with street tires so thats plus. Did you mention that you have the stock obd1 midsection still installed?

95s52
04-01-2010, 11:53 PM
106 trap is still pretty nice man! sucks about the tires. i have experience with RA1s and they aren't too bad. definitely not ideal for drag racing with their stiff sidewalls meant for turns, but they get the job done. i would say they are comparable to a really good street tire, maybe even slightly better depending on tread depth (shaved or not).

Thanks John. What kind of 60' where you getting with the RA1s?



that sucks Mark! but those used slicks lasted pretty good for what there were! btw, your car moves even with street tires so thats plus. Did you mention that you have the stock obd1 midsection still installed?

Thanks Chase, the slicks definitely served theirs. Yes the car is still running that pesky obd1 mid section. I had an obd2 but I sold it thinking I was going to fab up a midsection sometime soon. My brother is learning up on welding so we might piece something together in the summer.

jworms
04-02-2010, 12:20 AM
Thanks John. What kind of 60' where you getting with the RA1s?

i don't think i have any timeslips i can pull up with the RA1s, but i pulled a 1.900 with 255/40/17 michelin pilot cup sport tires (also rcomps) and those things aren't nearly as sticky as RA1s.

95s52
04-02-2010, 12:27 AM
i don't think i have any timeslips i can pull up with the RA1s, but i pulled a 1.900 with 255/40/17 michelin pilot cup sport tires (also rcomps) and those things aren't nearly as sticky as RA1s.

Thanks, good to know, but my ra1s are only 235's.. When are you heading out to the 1/4th again? I'm looking to do some racing with turns next weekend with the toyo's. But I need to fix my power steering before I go out. I have never dealt with the system. I need to do some reading :(

ak5
04-02-2010, 11:10 AM
damn that one quick dc2 for a B series motor! whats was the race weight at yesterday?



Thanks

Im not too sure about weight. Maybe 2800 with me? Maybe a little less. I took out my rear seats and passenger seat. Which both weigh nothing compared to BMW seats, Although it did make a difference. A race against mark with full interior was deadly for me. He pulled a good car on me from 70ish to 135ish. Thats a car between us. Stripped out, he started with headlights at my door and finished dead even ~70-135.. When I think about it, maybe a hair in front of me.

99MPower
04-02-2010, 12:28 PM
good talking last night Mark... we'll see how it all works out tonight :)

jworms
04-02-2010, 12:55 PM
Thanks, good to know, but my ra1s are only 235's.. When are you heading out to the 1/4th again? I'm looking to do some racing with turns next weekend with the toyo's. But I need to fix my power steering before I go out. I have never dealt with the system. I need to do some reading :(

i had a horrible time with 235 RA1s on 17x9 wheels, but maybe you'll have a better experience with them.

i'm not going to head out again until the end of the year when the weather gets cold again. probably around november...so you've got plenty of time to get there before i do ;)

95s52
04-02-2010, 05:44 PM
Thanks

Im not too sure about weight. Maybe 2800 with me? Maybe a little less. I took out my rear seats and passenger seat. Which both weigh nothing compared to BMW seats, Although it did make a difference. A race against mark with full interior was deadly for me. He pulled a good car on me from 70ish to 135ish. Thats a car between us. Stripped out, he started with headlights at my door and finished dead even ~70-135.. When I think about it, maybe a hair in front of me.

The above quoted speeds where measured in kmph. :shifty


good talking last night Mark... we'll see how it all works out tonight :)

Lets see those mid 12's!!! I almost want to stay in today just to see the results as soon as you post them :D


i had a horrible time with 235 RA1s on 17x9 wheels, but maybe you'll have a better experience with them.

i'm not going to head out again until the end of the year when the weather gets cold again. probably around november...so you've got plenty of time to get there before i do ;)

Really? I was hoping I wouldn't have to buy another pair of 15's.. Looks like I have no choice. It sucks not having a decent track near you. I can head out any given Wednesday if the weather is good..

ak5
04-02-2010, 05:56 PM
Mark, if you find some 23x8 let me know, ill let you get the 23x8.5 ;)

95s52
04-02-2010, 05:59 PM
Mark, if you find some 23x8 let me know, ill let you get the 23x8.5 ;)

You so sweet ":blush2"

99MPower
04-02-2010, 06:11 PM
I guess I'm not going anywhere... Car wont start as the peake reader is telling me I have an EWS Signal error

95s52
04-02-2010, 06:17 PM
I guess I'm not going anywhere... Car wont start as the peake reader is telling me I have an EWS Signal error

Have you checked the relay? Try unhooking the battery for 10 mins.

99MPower
04-02-2010, 06:28 PM
its been unhooked for quite some time now im going to take a shower/change and try again.... if it starts... I'm not turning it off... lol

ak5
04-02-2010, 06:29 PM
mark stop cheating on me :shifty

99MPower
04-09-2010, 04:48 PM
heading out tonight..... wish me luck :)

BMWFanatic
04-09-2010, 10:52 PM
heading out tonight..... wish me luck :)

good luck:evil2

99MPower
04-09-2010, 11:44 PM
good luck:evil2

hehehehehe :devillook

336motorsports
04-10-2010, 05:26 AM
Here are the numbers from the run. No dyno yet but a solid 300 is the guess.Head has also been messaged over a bit. I added a tree house 3.5 inch throttle body. Dont buy it, it is a rip off. Its just a throttle body off old 5 series v8 thats cable operated and some adapter plates and a s14 throttle cable. This run was with 235/40 17 hankook rs'2 and 3.25 lsd with new friction plates installed.

60 foot 2.155
330 5.74
1/8 8.667
mph at 1/8 85.11
1000 11.171
1/4 13.30 at at 105.94 mph

Thats good to know...

Im running a Dinan high flow tbody with my sunbelts but only because it was cheap and I KNOW it wont hurt.

95s52
04-10-2010, 06:11 AM
hehehehehe :devillook

UPDATES!!

Results!?!?

95avusblauM3
04-10-2010, 10:08 PM
using STD correction, not SAE. SAE generally reads lower than STD.
.


those STD'S!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

95s52
04-11-2010, 05:59 PM
Thats good to know...

Im running a Dinan high flow tbody with my sunbelts but only because it was cheap and I KNOW it wont hurt.

Have you had the chance to install your exhaust and dyno your car yet??

95s52
07-01-2010, 06:00 AM
For those who have been following the steady progress of this car, I have an update.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1485294

336motorsports
07-01-2010, 12:52 PM
Have you had the chance to install your exhaust and dyno your car yet??

I haven't installed any of it yet and its killing me.

The sunbelt engine along with the Euro exhaust is all going in together and its pretty close to being ready, I just need another car to drive while the swap takes place.

Im def gonna dyno the car as well as a few 1/4 mile runs.

Just read that thread, nice 1/4 mile times! :buttrock

95s52
07-01-2010, 10:41 PM
I haven't installed any of it yet and its killing me.

The sunbelt engine along with the Euro exhaust is all going in together and its pretty close to being ready, I just need another car to drive while the swap takes place.

Im def gonna dyno the car as well as a few 1/4 mile runs.

Just read that thread, nice 1/4 mile times! :buttrock

Thanks! Can't wait for your car to be done. Will be a beast!!

99MPower
07-01-2010, 11:38 PM
Congrats.... but as I said in other thread

slicks = no care :shifty





:menani

racer m
07-01-2010, 11:43 PM
Awesome times!

95s52
07-02-2010, 02:33 AM
Awesome times!

Thanks!


Congrats.... but as I said in other thread

slicks = no care :shifty





:menani

Trap speeds don't lie brah

:menani